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I understand getting banned for stuff like the GM giving someone an item that let them insta clear raids, and pvp exploits, but the fact that blizzard bans people for their inability to test their own game is just shocking.

As a member of Overrated who got banned, it took several weeks into TBC and dozens of e-mails to finally get unbanned. Most of the guild never did until wrath, when all of the banned accounts were released.

I would like an in depth video on the history of famous guilds in wow. Great vid!

Oh come on, the Lich King was all about abusing Bugs. Him being defeated by one seems so poetic

So I've heard a ton of versions of the Ensidia ban including that Rogue player was purposely walking towards the platform to throw the bomb nowhere near Arthas.

oldschool wotlk just is something else, the new experience, the raids started to get really serious and had so much new stuff in them.. what a time to be alive man

Respect to the saronite bomber. Blizz was just lazy with that one and didn’t want to own up to their own lack of attention to detail

They didn't get banned for it, but the room glitch that Premonition (and later, other guilds) used on Atramedes in Blackwing Descent was pretty flagrant. Due to the tuning of the fight, the disc damage became unmanagable, and the solution discovered was to literally take Atramedes out of the room. Not enough to despawn him, but JUST enough so that the discs wouldn't hit raid members.

I thought you were gonna talk about the first clear of The Omega Protocol getting the team banned 😅

Back in those days it wasnt bug abusing, or exploit, we called it “Clever use of game mechanics.” 😂

All of these are good and there are more. 👌 But the funniest exploit I witnessed and took part in, was the heirloom multistrike sword abuse with rogues back in SoO... attacking so fast and often that the game lagged for the entire raidgroup during any encounters and the dps it did was crazy. We used it in one of our farm weeks, worked amazing and got fixed shortly after that. Some guilds were banned for it, because they did many runs or sellruns with it. But of course this isn't a World First exploit. Sadly I don't know of any videos about it, I didn't record it myself, but I wish I had. It was very funny though.

love that you're getting sponsors from the likes of ff14, much deserved man!

Hilarious how we've gone from PERMA banning an entire guild for wanting to skip to the last boss in a raid that wasn't even current, to not even suspending people for buying hundreds of thousands of gold and destroying entire server economies. Thanks Blizz :)

Some more info and context to ensidia lich king ban. As you said this was normal mode and there was therefor no "world first" race and it was in no way a difficult fight for them. I was in a guild that was about rank 50 at the time and we killed it pretty easy first week without any exploit. Needless to say ensidia had no incentive to exploit. Ensidia said they did not know what was causing the bug (hard to notice that saronite bombs rebuilds the platform), they even wiped intentionally when it happened (not because of the bug, but they wanted to learn the fight better for heroic). After the ban was over and it was found out it was caused by saronite bombs they easily went in and killed it in a 2. raid with different characters and was able to compete in the actual world first race starting the next week allthough with gear removed from the lich king kill. Some people in Ensidia quit after blizzards handling of this and they as a guild never recovered. Now you might think to yourself, the fight was obviously bugged and Ensidia should have just not killed it. However every end boss released up until this point was bugged. For example the previous tier (TOGC) hard mode was first killed by Paragon, they chain stunned the adds the entire fight which obviously made it a joke (blizzard somehow forgot to add DR to the mobs). They were not banned for doing this, so why would Ensidia think they would get banned for rebuilt platform (which they couldnt possible know the cause of).

Apart from the one where they edited game files (thought a skip to legit C'thun would be nice) I think all of these are on blizzard to fix and don't warrant a ban. If anything Blizzard should thank them for pointing out these flaws.

Enjoy your fact finding and history videos. Keep em up!

Love learning about WoW history. More please!

I kinda missed the Martin Fury incident here. Besides to that nice video 💪

We still scouted for Mindflayers back in Vanilla AQ40. They were just not worth dealing with at all lol, especially back then.

I wasn't in a big guild but Raiding Rainbow got banned for at least server first Orbituary. We figured out a way to kill FL with the towers up but none of the mechanics would activate during the fight which obviously makes the encounter much easier. IIRC this was part of the reason why Blizzard started using the dialog with NPCs to start the encounter rather than just jumping in a vehicle and taking down towers or not. Our whole raid got banned for a week and we lost our titles and loot (obviously).

The fact the sponsor was FF14 and it was a WoW video is just funny to me for some reason XD awesome vid

The word "banned" these days seems to have been stretched to also mean "suspended". I hear it a lot now and it rarely actually means someone was banned, in that they can _never_ return. Its like how the word "literally" is often used to mean "figuratively".

Surprised that the incident with KarateChop and the Martins Fury wasnt on the list. I guess it was more of an error then a exploit though.

Funniest thing about the AQ40 hack: Back until one of the patches in MoP you could glitch through the wall of the platform if you had a big enough mount. Used to run C'thun only runs for the transmog this way

it did make a difference cause Ensidia lost the entire first week of heroic progression. You couldn't enter heroic without normal mode achiv. The 72 hour ban happened just before reset and included the reset time, so while the others where able to start heroic Ensidia had only normal mode available.

During the tbc pre-patch the warrior ability rampage stacked infinitely so people were having warriors stack the ability and 1 shot bosses, I know people themselves got banned but not sure if entire guilds got ban waved.

I remember a guild on my old server were ranked one of the top in the world and they got banned for something to do with Malygose exploit. The guild was Notorious and they (trying to remember so apologize for misremembering and not all the facts) did some exploit where they took all high end ranged DPS and one tank (i think 1) and used multiple blood lust to defeat the boss while he was in the air and before he could go to the next phase where the platform dissolves/breaks apart. Blizz had to change the fight after that to make the boss 0 health without going to the next phase. They only got a small ban but I remember it was the talk of the time especially on Gurubashi where they were. I wish I could remember the exact details but it was so long ago.

I was clearing AQ40 just last week with a friend. I accidentally skipped toe cthun. Some mobs had knocked me through the ground and I had to use the unstuck feature, and it placed me right on top of the boss.

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Even before the Exodus Yogg exploit, my guild received the same treatment for "exploiting" HM FL out of his room where the mechanics don't happen. That's why he leashes and resets now.

What is the website that youre posting in the videos that has all the raid clear and dates?

To this day I still don't think the saronite bombs counted as cheating. They deserved that, it was blizz coding not intentional.

That floor deletion was bis! 🤣

Damn never realized how insane the competition was for top players. Just watching them doesn't show the full story 😅

Anyone remember the guild Deus Vox? They "cascaded" BWL in order to run it multiple times a reset. Only Razergore locked you to that ID, so they would get Razergore really low and HS out as many people as possible leaving behind only the people necessary to kill it. They would then zone everyone back in and clear the rest of the instance then do it again and again.

It made 0 difference to the WF race. Paragon got LK HC on the 26th of march and it took until april 11th for the second kill by FTH. (plus a buff increase)

In AQ40, Blizzard banned people. In Black Temple, before release, Blizzard helped Nihilum practice most of BT on the PTR with an actual Dev in tow. And after Nihilum had their Illidan World First, they hotfixed that Warlocks could Soulstone a person outside of their group (Nihilum had the whole Raid soulstoned for the whole encounter).

I remembered hearing about the edited map to skip to C'thun. It is *mindblowing* to see footage of it.

That Ulduar "hack" back in Wrath was actually pretty clever strategy.

Getting banned for deleting files to skip to c’thun is wild considering you can skip to him by mounting up and alt-f4 at 98% of the cast through the wall that has a ledge above it to the right of prophet skerams platform

Have people forgot the word suspension? Back in the day ban was forever, that grinds my gears

you forgot the Lord Rhyolith in Firelands during Cataclysm, where the boss did not aggro while being pulled with pets.

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12:41 why does everyone forgets "The Ruby Sanctum"? Arthas wasnt the final boss of the expansion

On Archimonde server, during vanilla, my guild (Discordia) would pull Khazzak into "unkown" zone. basicly pulling him up the hill behind his spawn to the flat area deadzone between zones. We never got a ban for it. Basicly it was to prevent alliance from cheesing the death/heal mechanic to prevent us from a kill by sending their naked characters to die. after doing it once or twice I said I wont be doing it again, as I was the lock summoning everyone up there. I also was against people using the mind control orb in BWL from below it, but less so. Also dont think anyone ever got banned for that either.

You forgot to chat about "Martin Fury Insident" is the best exploit that really happened.

Wasn’t there a guild in original Wrath that somehow got ahold of a GM item that instantly killed anything then ran amok in Ulduar with it?

Surprised that all the Gara'Jal the Spiritbinder and Feng the Accursed bug abuses didn't make the list at all.

Some context on ensidia hodir kill... method and inner sanctum had done hardmodes the first week of uld when ensidia did nm and it was a breeze. Blizzard severely buffed it so ensidia felt they had no option but flower power to stay competitive. Buzzkill's old blog on nihilum/ensidia is a good read on it all.

Antramades in BWL - ppl just pulled him into the corridor before the boss room and ignored all the mechanics and blasted him 😂

This have nothing to do with world first, but Ulduar back in the day had many bosses that could be bugg abused. To be honest, i used em all. Flame leviathan could be solo'd without getting raidlocked. I farmed that boss for DAYS before it was fixed. Kologarnn could be bugged so his ability to pick up players to squeez em to death didnt trigger. Thorims gauntlet could be skipped. No first phase to go and poke him to jump down and no adds to deal with in the arena. He jumps down after the first dialog. Ulduar were one of the best raids ever, but first weeks of release it was packed with things that could be abused, just like ensidia did at hodir and much more!

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How did the vaelastraz mind control to knock off the burning adrenalin debuff off not make this liat

Not even an honorable mention to the first guild that got banned for "exploiting"? Conquest, all got banned for exploits, however blizzard refused to tell them *what* exploit they were using.

Be advised, ARR first 50 levels of story questing is pretty dry. It gets vastly better after it.

PLEASE do a video on the Serenity Now, funeral crash bans. Lol

Played this game for over 13 year BC --> , all my free time. Then my mom died (Braintumor) and still have a bad feeling I didn't go more to my mom before. Lost all this time with my mom for A game... Now it's to late :(

just before the chase scene in halls of reflection instance the chase glitched and didnt happen, for us... so we dropped the lich king in HOR before anyone dropping him in ICC

At one moment, WoD heirloom trinket proc'ed full force in timewalker, imagine proc for 150-170k dmg on a 500k hp boss :P

I also remember one guild getting banned in Lich King for having an all Druid in bear form raid... literally unstoppable... lol

lol that spellsteal hodir worked in wotlk classic aswell until someone leaked it from warcraftlogs

Exploits are playing to win. Banning anyone for using an exploit is like punishing an office worker for finishing their work load too fast.

I'm just blown away to see an FFXIV sponsorship in a WoW video 😄 Maybe this isn't the worst timeline after all~

Wasnt this the exploit asmon talked about that Krupp was in? They stood outside the chamber and agreed them to the door

You forgot to mention that Paragon got world first Trial of the Grand Crusader 0 deaths.

didnt Stars get banned in WoD cuz they found an exploit with Hanz and Franz where a rogue would follow the boss to the upper platform and then mass ress the raid and they could do the fight from up there, avoiding every mechanic? or am i just having a fever dream

It was several top guilds banned for the lfr bug, not just paragon

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I will never get the cases why Blizzard ropes the consequences due to their lack of bug testing on the players. Its one thing to edit the in-game files and force the game to play in a way that it was never designed to. Its another to use in-game resources to make a fight easier, which they signed off on as builds do not get published without being approved by the developers. If its jank, they approved of said jank, whether intentionally or not.

I remember our wotlk raiding guild getting server first on heroic twin val'kyr 25 by accidentally using an exploit that interrupts the cast of the boss heal a split of a second before their shield is activated. I don't think blizz found out. :' )

"we're banning you because our devs failed" GENIUS!

I think using the walls to your advantage isn't an exploit. If it's ok to kite enemies by such means in classic, it's ok to have enemies stop to give you a extra second to live

This is the first ad I've actually listened to in a while...mostly since it's not an extremely exploitative mobile game. :P

ffxiv ad for a wow vid, love that

Kiting a pull with the classic "fence jump" pathing bug is the essence of classic, but they tried to get rid of it as time went on, to the point they banned everyone 72H because one person did this for 6 seconds during the most important fight possible.

That's rad that FFXIV sponsored you despite your content being the competition.

Both of those Yogg glitches were legitimate world firsts and should have been treated as such. The first because they used it once and reported it immediately - legitimate. The second because they used a known mechanic that Blizz hadn't fixed in multiple expansions - legitimate. Ensidia's kill of LK was also legitimate.

As a member of Overrated, I hate Nerfie and that dumb woman he fell in love with. No one needed to know about replacing the sand texture with the tentacle.

I THINK the only reason blizzard decided to do something about the Helya exploit is BECAUSE Limit was fair, REPORTED the bug (naturally Blizzard didn’t fix it), they didn’t use it and THEN other guilds did without any consequences.

The ensidia ban wasn’t ensidia’s fault. Saronite bombs are part of the DPS rotation for rogues in wrath. And where are rogues located? Up the bosses arse! So I believe that was Blizzard wanting to pass it as bug abuse rather than admitting they messed up an end expansion raid again (looking at you Kiljaden)

Limit was banned for standing on a totem on the third boss in mogu shan vaults early on in there career to be the best guild in the world!

I thought Method got world first Helya not exorsus. Method did not do the breath exploit either I thought.

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It is possible to skip to c'thun without modify any of the gamefiles with just a simple mount + alt f4 trick below Skeram and jumping to the tunnel before c'thun.

"Yogg HM hardest raid they had to offer" - clearly never done 25m Mimi HM kekw

wow, perma banning all guild members for the aq bug abuse really seems to hard for me

When you kill the lichen king in BFA? you get an achievement Clever use of mechanical explosives lol....

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That Hodir hardmode was not an exploit in anyway as Blizzard themselfs hade come out and said that the buffs was intended to be spell stealable by Mages but they were expecting players to use them on Freja and not Hodir. That is not an exploit but instead a very legit way of outsmarting the devs without changing anything about the Hodir fight itself. They dident break any of Hodirs mechanics they just brought a buff into the fight that the devs hade made available they just dident think about players using the buff on another boss other then Freja. This was constantly happening in Vanilla with world buffs getting used in raids. This was just a side effect they werent excpecting players to use the buff for. The LichKing situation is also badly reported here as while the bombs did break the mechanics of the fight. The players hade reported the bug happening in there attempts and there was no way any of the players could possable have known these bombs was the cause of it. Even players from Paragon hade reported it happening in there attempts. Its like he said, alot of top players used these bombs in there standard rotation so it wasent something 1 guy found out just to make the fight easier. The ban itself is arguable but getting the world first removed is ofc understandable as the fight was definatly cleared due to a bug happening. It was only after the world first clear that the issue of the bombs was discovered so the players couldent have known about it before that.

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Were these all Horde bans? Wild.

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The guild that used a bug then reported it and got shit taken away is partially a reason people don't report shit. if you fuck up and people use it an report it after it is on you. I remember I was buying something and the price was off. when I mentioned it to the manager they fixed the price and charged me the full price. last time I will ever tell a place if their pricing system is messed up in a customers favor.

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Blizzard .... ban people for for their own mistakes. lolz You guys remember Warcraft 3 reforged?

A suspension and a ban are two different things btw

Righteous fury paladin healing a life tapping warlock is correct, however it didnt require any soulstoning, the brain didnt kick you out automatically after you pushed phase. That was the fix blizzard made to make our exploit unrepeatable.

Liquid should 100% have complained about the suspension. It's fair to take the achievements and rewards off them, but it was Blizzards fault that the tactic seemed to be acceptable (like, how hard is it to make one blue post saying "we know of the bug, anyone who exploits it will be punished"?) so they should have just removed the ill-gained progression from those who reported it and tried fairly.

If it was in the game and the Blizz didnt fix it then it not an exploit, it a feature