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The best tip I could give any hunter leveling on hardcore is to bind your pet attack and pet follow. I personally have em on my mousewheel and it makes a massive difference when killing mobs. I just mousewheel up to send pet in and mousewheel down to call it back

The best part about hunter is that every weapon in the game is a hunter weapon so you can pick up tonnes of upgrades in dungeons, people love having hunters in their groups, especially if your pet is helping the tank pull mobs

One big thing to mention about Feign Death! If you let it last its full 6 minute duration, you will die. Straight up. I know that sounds like a meme but go test it on a vanilla server. This is important because (if you're like me) sometimes you might feel tempted to Feign Death somewhere dangerous if you need to tab out or go AFK since mobs will usually ignore you. Pet advice: Turtles are tanky but imo bad pets. They don't do much damage and will struggle to hold threat if you don't give them time to build it up. Owls make good leveling pets with their screech improving their tankiness and a naturally high damage modifier (+7%), but carrion birds get a +5% armor modifier instead of damage. As stated, cats are good damage dealers. Boars are decent with their charges giving them some snap threat combined with their higher defense stats, and they can eat basically anything. I'm gonna make a case for wind serpents, probably my favorite pet family. They have a +7% damage modifier and a ranged attack that deals nature damage, making their lightning breath ignore armor. It also lets them get threat on something before it gets into melee range and lets them attack things that might have dangerous pet-killing cleave, but this is finnicky and requires you to make a macro or two. The only downside is that it can't use it against nature-immune enemies, which means you'll have to use bite for those. They also eat bread, fish and cheese, which means they can eat mage food, which is super convenient. These are also food types that are super commonly dropped by enemies, especially humanoids, which you'll fight a lot of. Fish includes clams and crawler meat, and you can fish up food for your pet assuming you're keeping your fishing level up.

As a longtime hunter main and HC enjoyer, a few additional points: - ranged weapon merchants often sell green bows/guns. These will likely be a significant upgrade so keep an eye out. - don’t sleep on disengage. If you pull aggro off pet and intimidation is on cd, disengage is great to reduce your threat while leaving feign death available for emergencies and usually drops threat just enough to get the mob off you. - also don’t sleep on the various types of mob tracking, these are great ways to find named mobs and general mobs through walls, in structures, caves, hilly/low visibility areas, etc - integrate rapid fire/bestial wrath/berserking (if troll) into macros that also use serpent sting/arcane shot. This maximizes uptime, you’ll never need to think about popping them manually again. Can also include auto shot, don’t need a separate button

You should have a segment where you shortly talk about all the class specific hardcore achievements! And maybe another seperate video talking about all the achievements!

Hunter has a tremendous number of pitfalls for inexperienced players. Playing the class is a trial by fire. There are so many mistakes to make and learn from, and I think it contributed a lot to the class's poor reputation (and infamous nickname), especially during the early days of WoW. -Multishot breaking CC or pulling unexpected aggro (treat it as a reskinned chain lightning) -Multiple resist checks on your CC trap (one check for Feign for every aggroed mob in roughly 50 yards, plus one more check for Freezing Trap) -Frost Trap is very powerful in groups, but can pull stray patrols or yellow mobs (ie ZF scarabs) if you're not careful -Frost Trap + Entrapment causes mobs to attack nearby targets, potentially killing your healer if they're not aware of it happening -Easy to forget to turn Growl off while in groups -Having more than 999 ammo simply shows an asterisk, so it's easy to forget to restock before dungeons -Aspect of the Cheetah/Pack absolutely wrecking you and your party if you're not paying attention

Cheers for the great content mate ❤️ always great seeing what stuff you come up with. Hardcore is pumping right now so pretty keen on seeing that type of content

Ignoring all other advantages and disadvantages, hunter is the best for the simple reason that it is the most engaging class in vanilla where you actually got things to do and don't just spam 1 attack / spell.

Awesome Video - thank you! Could you do a warrior one? Loved your structure and just straight up intel!

I think Warrior would be an awesome next choice. Can be very difficult so itd be a nice change of pace

Thats something I miss about vanilla quivers; they gave an attack speed boost. And larger quivers gave a larger boost.

I'm doing a shaman atm and I'm using talents I never used before... basically all tanking and any defensive ones I can get lol it's kinda fun too

The series I did not know I needed, but I am all for it.

Great tips - doing a hunter now. Great idea for a series and I'm looking forward to the druid vid!

I would like to add something about feign death. Be extremely careful using it in a dungeon with a party. If you draw aggro off the tank, go to the tank before hitting feign death. This way the mob is closest to the tank and they can pick the mob back up easier. If you pop it while away from the tank then said mob could resist it and you die, and mob could go after another member instead of back to the tank. Which could lead to a wipe, and no one likes causing a wipe.

great vid! would love to see the Shaman next. It was my first ever cahracter to lvl 60 back in the day.

Hunter in HC is best summed up as: It's one of the hardest to level from 1-10, after 10 the only time you'll really die before 60 is from fall damage or feign being resisted. Also expect a lot of competition for groups. You'd be surprised how many people die to fall damage as a hunter.

Couple more tips: Disengage is a real ability and works, most people never use it but you actually permanently reduce threat with it and this can save your life, keep in mind that using it twice will reduce threat twice so spamming it works. Improved revive pet is the way to go, it makes in combat pet resurrection an option and that can save your life. Immolation trap is far better then is given credit to here, very good vs elites or for dual killing with melee weaving.

Very good video - should have mentioned that screech can aggro yellow mobs - as it is hard core

awesome idea for a series, really looking forward to this one!!

really think its underrated how Hunters have access to mail armor as a ranged character, that is a lot of DR built into the baseline of the character.

Really good guide. Happy to see the next one.

Need a druid guide next please!

i think in the pet category a boar is worth mentioning...boar charge is incredible for getting fast to the mob and get immediately a big chunk of aggro.

Yessss! V v glad to see this series come about, thanks man

I'd strongly recommend keeping pet on defensive in general in case of phone aggro/ bathroom breaks which could result in you getting killed by npcs while you're afk.

Good video! Do the warlock next, it's the next-most safe hc class and a lot of people roll lock just to do hc. I love this as a new series!

Hunter pet doesn't have "Taunt" in Classic. It only had Growl, which is a ability that does high threat, but doesn't actually put in top of the threat table like the warrior Taunt.

Personally I recommend Boars; they are easy to feed, tanky and their charge is great for getting solid aggro every pull and help makes up for their below average damage.

It might be good to go over profs in future videos. Engis great for hunter, free ammo, ability to make guns plus all the regular amazing utility of engi

I spent hours back in OG classic looking for the shadow cat in darkshore. Loved that pet for years.

Man, I loved those "was it any good tho?" vids and now I get these : ))

That’s one of the best things about Hunter is gaining weapon skill in something new is incredibly easy. Wing clip spam until your MP is gone switch weapons (if you have to) then kill the mob, drink, repeat until your close to your level cap on skill

Oh classic hunter. Almost 19 years ago I made my first. Still play him sometimes today

Do druid next!

First class and still my main after 17+ years, I have forgotten so much of this stuff great video.

Did a "no range attack" hc hunter run once. Got a wind serpent to range pull mobs with lightening breath into traps. The gameplay loop actually didnt feel too bad and it was still miles better than hc war

Ty for all the info as always. I only played a Hunter on WoLK and beyond. After seeing this, I know I WON’T be rolling with it in the official HC server haha Looking forward to Warlock and Shaman!

Really comprehensive and informative video. Thank you!

I would definitely buy tracking different types of enemies as soon as possible, probably the best feature of hunters to avoid putting yourself in sticky situations because with tracking u can see where every single mob is on the minimap and can keep an eye on patrols, etc.

I haven't had an urge to play wow in a bit but this made me want to play a hunter now...

I really think that in hardcore different pet species matter quite a bit, best example is birds, screech isnt good cus it lowers enemies attack power, its because it causes AOE threat which is absolutely HUGE because if you pull 3/4 or more mobs and dont hit them, screech will rip them all off you in a split second which can definitely save your life.

Oh damn I love these kind of series. so cozy even for classes ill never play

There is also a lion rare spawn in Mulgore called The Rake that has an atk speed between broken tooth and normal cats, he's not that rare and not camped. Definitely a top option for Horde.

I would really recommend taking improved revive pet instead of aspect of the Hawk. The damage is not a big dps increase and having improved revive pet, can save your life in a sticky situation with the lower manacost and time spent casting it. You can freezing trap or cc a mob and revive your pet in the meanwhile.

Yeeees! Excited for this series!

I am playing a Paladin right now and it's not bad. Yeah it can get a bit boring but it's definitely been a fun experience overall.

20:33 holy shi, that's amazing,

Yay a new guide series! :)

Content back on point!!!!!

Thank you for explaining how the earning of new abilities works! I was so lost xD

I think its important to mention for anyonr wanting to do end game content: as a hunter, you will have a ridiculous amount of competition. You think hunter is easy? So does everyone else. There will be a million hunters

Quite a few newbies that have their fresh owl from leaving the tree thinking they get screech but don’t know they gotta go tame up the greater carrion to learn the first screech in Westfall…. Not sure if they had changed this by 1.12 classic but I remember that being a thing way back. Feels bad man when u hit VC for the first time and u think Hunter in group is bringing screech but they still have their basic bietch lol. Also, I remember no serpent sting in raids not that it’s that big of a thing early on… but I remember raid leader yellin at all the hunters to stop spamming SS.

Once upon a time in retail WoW, my Orc Hunter tamed Mazzranache. Later she obtained the pink lovebird mount and pet, so I could ride around with 3 flamingo's at all times.

the quest rewards! wooow that is Very useful to see on a video

Great video!! Warrior next please!

if you are Alliane with really bad gold management there is a quiver reward from Duskwood too, with 1% less ranged attackspeed. You should be able to solo the questline around lvl30. 🙂

Great Video! Warlock next.

You’re missing out on the hunter weapon progress. If and I suggest. You go engineering you can craft an awesome gun at 36 called Mithril Blunderbuss. And keep a track for the Massive Longbow at the Bow merchants. Peace!

regarding the topic of which pet to chose: in original vanilla boars used to be goat. their self-AP-buff upon charge used to carry over to growl giving them ridiculous threat generation. as classic doesn't feature the original tickrate, this didn't happen with the classic relaunch, which is why boars dropped off so hard.

I had a hunter as as my first character back in 2008 - I miss him and the pets. or running out of arrows on a quest and having to go back to town and buy more :)

Small correction, ranged attacks can be blocked. Can't be parried or dodged but blocking ranged attacks is very much a thing in vanilla

Survival has always been a really underrated talent tree. I understand that leveling is easier with a beefy tank pet, but SV really offers amazing survivability and utility. 15% agility is absolutely BONKERS good, even at lower levels. I'd really think about going SV after level 40! I did on a normal Classic server, and I outperformed MM in dungeons/raids, and SV is simply amazing in PvP. Obviously PvP is no really a huge factor in this mode, but please consider Survival. It's amazing in the right hands.

Aww yis, this going to be a good series

Binding pet attack to Scroll up and Pet return to scroll down on your mouse feels really intuitive.

Thanks the pet training points i missed totally, thank you

well done!

For pets u missed out on boars. i strongly recommend boars for the levels 10-40 until u can get broken tooth (or another fast attacking cat) and frenzy talents. Boars can charge right from the start, dash is only available at level 30+, and they eat mostly everything.

I only play wow a little bit in hs so im basically learning the game from scratch. But i do remember having a friend tell me to get to goldshire after i hit level 10, should i still do that or just keeo questing my Dun Morogh quests? Also im assuming ill get a boar first, im almost 10 rn, but is it a better idea to get an owl first?

Would love to see Warrior or Warlock in the next vid!

Can't wait to have my bags be full of nothing else than ammo and fish for kitty. The most fun I've had as a hunter was in mop with the redirect glyph where you could spam it to send all mobs onto the pet and spam mend pet to keep it alive while soloing dungeons.

For night elves, we have an additional feign death ability which is shadow meld. On top of that, you get disengage which works in a similar fashion. 😊

Do warrior next. Opposite end of the leveling spectrum.

Hi Will! This is cool!

you might have forgot but going into Engineering, you will be able to craft your own guns and bullets, atm im lvling a main hunter on classic ( not classic harde core )with LW and eng, and have alt feeding him leather and bars

correct format!

What addon are u using to see the debuffs on the enemy name plates (e.g. seen at 6:05 in the vid) ? Thanks for the vid!

Funny little nuance of the hunter. the better you are at playing the hunter while leveling (kiting and not getting hit), The more damage you take simultaneously.

Regarding the birds, not only can they learn dive and screech, but claw and bite aswell. With those talents for extra focus generation, it gets interesting. Bite has 10 sec CD, screech shouldn't be on spam, rather activating it once or twice during the fight. Claw is like an additional damage to your pet's auto attack since it has no CD, just global. Would love to hear if someone actually did the math on this, because I'm not sure if pet is losing some of his auto attacks due to having 3 offensive abilites on rotation.

I did not know about learning the abilities for pets. I knew certain beast had different abilities but did not know you could learn it for a different pet.

A macro I like to use to open combat is /cast Hunter's Mark /petattack

Woah… The name of the hunter at 8:54 has the same name as my hunter from vanilla-MoP :O

Track beast and humanoid should be yellow, they help a lot when you look for named quest mobs which are generally humanoid or beast. Heavily underrated

Druid guide would be sick next!

Do you use your own server-setup to make top down recordings like the one @2:57 ?

Boars are a good pet. Tanky and they have charge - with root, without stun. They also can get bite and will eat anything. 👍

Rogue next would be cool

Playing a hunter in HC right now. Much fun

I think from a roleplaying POV, only Orcs, Trolls and Dwarves should use a pet as they're considered extrovert races. The Nelf and Tauren should be Marksman and Survival (no pet) respectively or interchangeabley.

Question: why does nobody seem to get the 2 points in ‘Bestial Discipline’ in the BM tree? I don’t know how much 20% focus regen amounts to but with a pet that can learn both claw and bite like a cat it seems like it would be useful? I decided not to get the improved cheetah this time around and take it nice and slow but everybody seems to skip this talent and I just need an explanation.

hey wille. im colorblind and couldn't tell the yellow/green on the different abilities to train regarding the importance. if you can, next time you do color coating if you're able to do much more contrasting colors it would be super helpful for A LOT of us. with no downside to the normies. Thanks for the content.

why my cast autoshot dont fire arrows and my char use daggers if the target is far far. i press the macro blind button

Correct me if I’m wrong, and I was scrolling through comments to find out but… I thought pet attack speed was normalized in ZG patch? Or is broken tooth/1.0 speed pets really still the bis pet? I see most HC Hunters using owls for screech and their trade offs. But they don’t get screech until level 30 or so, and only ugly grey owls are available early. I think once you get to 54+ in winter spring and you can get a white owl, it’s probably worth a stable slot. Personally I picked up a boar on my hunter, the early levels it does amazing dmg, is very tanky, eats everything, and the snap threat from charge makes it very hard to pull off of them, it’s sped up my levelling massively. Highly highly recommend a boar pet with charge early on

My first class was Huntard too

Thanks WillE

All Instances will be accessible from start. So Zul Gurub Bat is also available, also 1.0 Attack speed.

Never forget that wille said taking fury visor was a good idea

The Hunter does not have a bad rap, it just has trolls or memes attached to it. In fact, The Hunter is not only one of the best classics it is also the hardest class to learn to play well or even well. The problem people have the the Hunter is it is a class that takes skill and a good amount of it. people don't want to have to learn and work to be good they want to just hit 3 bottom and be a hero. The hunter is not even close to that. in fact, I have at least 8-10 bottom or abilities I use on the regular being a hunter. It is also a class that needs a strategy for different mob fights, Again you have to use your brain, but what you get is some badass battles that feel like you accomplished something great when you are standing in the end.

i had no idea Track Hidden increased your stealth detection for the last 18 years...