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Year 2050: blizzard we want another fresh

I think its lame they don't have at least 1 dedicated TBC and Wrath server. I play classic era, but I would probably make a char in TBC and do a bit of raiding if the option was there

Give us a fresh server every 2 years

I'm honestly looking to play TBC again. Didn't really have time to play it when it came out and it went so fast. Would love to experience it again.

I'm somewhat disappointed that the sponsor wasn't hellofresh xD

When they started doing vanilla servers I kind of just assumed they'd make fresh servers every now and then. Era is fun but I would really enjoy starting again with everyone on a fresh economy progressing through the phases.

We need fresh Vanilla and Fresh TBC to cycle every 2 years simultaneously.. honestly, isn't that what most people want?

I’ve been playing on Deviate Delight, and it’s been … delightful

Blizzard should make a fresh classic server that goes through the life cycles of TBC and Wrath. The fact that you can only play those xpacs on private servers now is sad.

Been playing on DD. Tons of people handing out greens they don’t need to lowbies, making bags, grouping. Haven’t really ran into any sweats or toxic stuff. Been a damn good time so far 🤷

Friendly reminder that seasonal servers aren't classic plus, they are retail minus.

Original trilogy rolling through each phase of each expansion. Rinse and repeat from the start every ~4 years. I’d sub for life. Also, there are so many “versions” of vanilla out right now that I’d kind of wish they skip right to TBC next. All of my IRL friends stopped playing once Cata dropped, and most seem to just be waiting for some promise of TBC fresh- be it a new era server or vanilla fresh with the promise of progressing through the trilogy again.

You said "stimulating" twice when I think you meant "simulating"?

Legit if they would just have left a version of TBC I would be playing that religiously

I just love leveling in a busy world, that's why it's so much more popular than any other "expansion".

The deviate delight community is awesome. I rate this experience higher than 2019 classic launch. The culture is way closer to actual vanilla. No one here is just waiting for the next thing so we can now play the game. It's exactly what I wanted it to be.

I want TBC and WOTLK back

Why does Hardcore need fresh at all? With the cyclical nature of new runs always happening it should constantly be active.

i do wish they'd give us a fresh TBC server which has lv 60 limit for like 1 to 2 months for people to lvl up, gear up, and prepeare for tbc and then unlock outlands.

Yeah SoD has long lost any claim to being Classic. It started as a way to explore possibilities of what could be added into eventual Classic+, but it quickly turned into Blizzard's own fun server with massive feature creep they couldn't maintain.

We waiting you all guys at ZANDALAR TRIBE EU, fresh enjoyers !

I know I want to. I don't have the heart to do the heroic Cata raid grind with what's left of my guild.

Their should be a rotation to WoW's Classic progression servers: Step 0. Vanilla "museum" servers already exist Step 1. Release Vanilla Refresh 1 Step 2a. Give players option to copy/duplicate/transfer characters to Museum Vanilla or continue to TBC Step 2b. Release Warlords of Draenor Remix on Retail Step 3. Release TBC Refresh 1 Step 4. Release Legion Remix on Retail Step 5. Release Wrath Fresh 1 Step 6a. Give players option to copy/duplicate/transfer characters to Museum Wrath or continue to Cata Step 6b. Release Battle for Azeroth Remix on Retail Step 7. Release Cata Refresh 1 Step 7. Release Vanilla Refresh 2 etc. Maybe a 2.5-3 year cycle. That's a money maker for at least two or three more cycles.

They should drop a fresh classic on the 20th anniversary.

I think the best possible move would be to drop progressive classic after Cataclysm (at that point I don't think anyone would consider it "classic") and focus on a slightly accelerated fresh realms of the original trilogy. Make each phase last 4-6 weeks instead of the original 2-3 months, then after Wrath, restart the realms. They could even give different tabards to show progression from the previous "season". And I think "Fresh Hardcore" would actually be great! I would love to see another "Road to Ragnaros" style event, as well as other achievements like scarab lord on hardcore! And having an original trilogy hardcore server progress along with the fresh servers wouldn't take up any additional space in the launcher, it would just be an extra tab in game like it is now with Classic era.

I love classic, id like it to stay as classic though. I'd be happy with a refreshing burning crusade

I want TBC ERA

Classic plus, classic plus, classic plus. People have been saying it before it was a thing, people were saying it during classic "durr hurr we don't even know if they'll even do TBC hurr" now we're in cataclysm. Season of discovery was not it.

I'd like to try fresh TBC! I want to be able to try the expansion without having to chose between starting with a disadvantage or having to play through all of classic

I’m so happy to see so many comments saying they want TBC fresh because SAME. Also so sad because I know they won’t do it 😢

When mages are running with Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker - Then its definitely time for fresh servers! (saw one last night)

Its pretty insane that blizzard don't re-release classic fresh servers every 18-24months.

I want a real fresh so bad

I would love a fresh restart again! I would come back immediately. A few changes this time around would be nice with it. No gdkp like in SOD, no aoe boost farming like they had in SOM. Implement the gold buying detection, etc.

I won't be coming back until the player base changes. People play their add-ons instead of playing the game.

Fun Fact: EverQuest hit its 25 year anniversary earlier this year. They're still releasing expansions for EQ1. Another fun fact: EverQuest started releasing their progression servers in June, 2006. They released two more this year, in 2024. l WoW releasing Classic/Progression servers into the 2030s shouldn't be unexpected.

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Given the amount of people playing on the "fresh" server deviate, I think it's time for official fresh 😅

Funny that private servers are now doing a Fresh progression servers of the first three expansions and those servers are population capped. There IS a market for this and people want it. I know I would drop everything now to play Vanilla again just to have a chance of getting to TBC.

I love the leveling aspect and the pre raid bis phase but once we hit the world buff circus im done...

ESO advertising on a wow video is pretty optimistic lol

It would be really nice to have Fresh on a 3 year cycle. Vanilla, to TBC to Wrath then back again. I am also ok with minor changes to try and balance out the class populations each "season" but I feel like with Season of Discovery it went into the new wow design. I think Blizz needs some passionate folks running the vanilla team who understand why people want to play the same game over and over, chasing that original high and reliving those memories. I have started getting the itch again and seeing that Nelf hunter shooting the entry bow and doing front flips really made me want to go back...

At 9:40 you may get hit by a nostalgic desire to roll Tauren on Classic Then you watch how 3x wrath drains all your mana and leaves a 25% mob for you to smash with your staff I'm good....

All i wish for is a real Classic +, with balance and new content BUT not SoD bs thing.. Just classic with new things out and not farming the same damn thing with the exact same blocked comp of dps etc

Fresh LoTRO server this month, just sayin

I honestly believe the best way to do a fresh release is to implement a staggered level cap. It would start at level 30 for the first week of release, then 45, then 55, then 60. This is the way to stop people rushing to 60 and raid, and give them more time to enjoy leveling and make friends. It would give people time to prepare for raiding, but there's a lot for a raid that you need to do at level 60. Plus, it's only a week each phase, so there wouldn't be that much time to be a overprepare anyway.

I think a fresh with all content available at launch would be interesting.

If TBC servers had been kept I’d be doing fresh TBC on repeat. Loved it way more than any of the other classic experiences. I’m really hoping SoD goes into TBC for another chance to play it through 🤞🏻

I wish the EU one would be as big as Deviate Delight.

Classic Fresh on DD has been amazing so far. At least on horde side

I casually play Vanilla Classic HC and i only play it because there is no TBC server around and Vanilla Classic is it's closest thing.

Back to tbc+

Not yet. P4 SOD incoming. Community fresh on era servers. Give it a year

And remember, if you are into end game - you go warrior > rogue > mage for dps and priest > shaman for heal. That’s all there is. Other classes do not scale properly

i been on zandalar tribe about a week, it seems to be getting more ppl

Classic WoW Moment

Yes. Its time.

I don't understand why Blizzard doesn't do what Jagex did with OSRS, considering how successful they were with it.

I’d love it if they started a fresh Vanilla server that progressed into Wrath

Can you make a video talking about the concept of 3 era servers (vanilla, bc, wotlk) and the ability to progress into the next expansion on your own terms?

TBC Classic with the phases it had would be awesome.

I'm waiting to resub for an actual vanilla fresh server. Until then, I'll be playing other games.

Fresh classic is the perfect tool for buying the classic team time to work on a persistent Classic+. If I were lead of Classic WoW planning and development this would be my plan: 1. Take Cata Classic and all future Classic Expansions and give them to the teams that handle Plunderstorm and MoP remix. 2. Let Aggrend and team finish out SoD. Give them a nice long break, then begin the debrief and retrospective. 3. Build a plan for a persistent Classic+. Do not focus on adding player power or catchup mechanics. Focus on adding literally hundreds of new quests for everything from gear to endgame spells to recipes to summoning new dungeon and raid bosses. 4. A few months after SoD concludes, announce fresh classic. 5. Use all of the time that fresh classic runs (12 to 18 months) as essentially free time to work on developing and testing classic+. 6. A few months after Naxx drops, announce Classic+. Set the PTR date a few weeks out. Give no launch date. 7. Very limited, highly focused PTR testing. Encrypt all game files so that data mining is impossible. 8. Release with phases that are shorter but more numerous. Specifically and explicitly do not cater to the top 5% or the bottom 10% of players. Focus entirely on cultivating a community. Controvercially ban several addons, including weak auras. 9. Enter the platinum era of wow. Redefine what it means to be a "modern" mmorpg. Upend the entire modern gaming industry, demonstrating that good fundamental game design will always have a place despite what MBA bean counters might say about micro transaction revenue. Be the front page of time magazine. Global conflict cools for several years as everyone is too busy enjoying WoW.

We need TBC fresh, but blizzard somehow hates TBC

a 100% yes. I really want TBC back so a classic reset would be right up my alley

The only feeling we get is that they did zero maintenance with gold selling gdkp and botting in era that the situation made the servers unplayable, any fresh they do or people asks is matter of time before it turns to the existing era servers

TBH i feel like cata is a more complete and fair version of wotlk's design. ive had a blast going between cata raidlogging and lvling on DD. shit is dope

If it was time to go back then classic era would be popular. Sure it's not a fresh start but those servers are so dead they might as well be

I think if they did three servers that had a constant rotation, that'd be perfect. Each server would rotate from Classic to TBC to WOTLK. Anyone could play any version of the game they desired (or even if we only had 1 server that rotated that'd be fine too, then you can just join in when it's your year or so to go again) Could be just a set it and forget it kind of thing with blizzard monitoring for bots taking over and your character would just get moved somewhere else when the trilogy came to an end.

I've said since the beginning we need vanilla - wrath rotation, 1.5 years for vanilla, 1 year for TBC and 1 year for wrath on a repeat. That keeps things fresh for the drifters and the hardcore players will always have their era realms to stick to until the next fresh. Also no change for vanilla aside from chronoboon or no WB's at all. No wow token, and no boosts period.

Frankly, I was done with Season of Discovery after the very first season. I really enjoyed it, it was novel, very easy to level up alts (managed to get all classes to max) and there were lots of opportunities to socialize and take it easy. It really felt a lot like mid-late Vanilla back in 2006, with people asking for help or advice, quite a bit of chat going on etc. However, the following seasons mostly added stuff we already had in expansions and they further made the game feel more like modern. Too much convenience, too many unnecessary features, etc, the "Seasonal" non-permanent feeling really started setting in. I would much rather play proper Vanilla Classic at this point.

its over...

Isn't the answer to this always the same? People go on and on about wanting "fresh" but when it happens, whether it be through community driven or official means, the interest only lasts for a very short amount of time leading the servers to become fairly barren relatively quickly.

I get the timing, I think Blizzard messed up on timing phase 4 for SoD. I'm really hoping this doesn't impact SoD too much, it was extremely difficult watching how precipitously it died.

After playing SoD with the QoL changes, going back to Classic does not sound appealing at all - Especially as a hunter FINALLY being able to trap in combat again.

The problem with new fresh servers is the population will decline each time a new one opens. Sure, lots of people levelling at first - but good luck finding 39 people to raid with. Once every few years? Sure. So long as there's not too many options at once to divide the player base. The issue currently is we've got so many versions of WoW and its such a time consumer that playing more then one is a daunting task to anyone with any sort of time restrictions. So do you pick Era, Hardcore, Seasonal or Progression? Its a tough one to solve that makes everyone happy. Would I play a fresh Vanilla server? Maybe. Though probably not for long, since I have other things I want to do and I'm currently enjoying Cataclysm well enough (and like the people I play with). The notion of having less time to do other things and meeting new people is a bit much for me right now - so if I did it would be super casual.

Not for me. I have levelled every class to 60 (some twice), mastered every raid and dungeon, achieved Rank 14 on multiple characters, and conquered solo-self-found hardcore. There really isn't anything left for me to do. I dabbled a bit in Wrath but stopped when they introduced the WoW Token. I don't care for Cataclysm. TBC would be cool to play again.

You guys are coming back? I never left. We are not the same. Edit: One note on battlegrounds. They do pop outside of Holiday weekends. I have been ranking to R14, and you can do WSG throughout the day with only 10 minute ques roughly. So they are fairly active

Redoing the classic trilogy again is probably the best option for blizzard

I would rather play Turtle WoW or Project Epoch tbh

0:52 the warchief is on his stoop!

Classic fresh is just for the people who can’t hack it in the GDKP circuit.

Just play on Turtle WoW guys

The Deviat Delight fresh just seems VERY streamer forced. These streamers have proven to just fall off the map and go to a different game the minute something new is out so I just cannot trust it given the time investment needed. Though, as a Cataclysm player, if Blizz released actual Fresh Classic servers with minimal changes (only QoL changes like chrono) then I would be very very interested. I might even drop Cataclysm to focus on leveling.

Yes they should "invest time" in just releasing fresh servers.

Was literally gonna start back up on hardcore servers tomorrow and then got this in my recommended this is literally perfect. I still hope blizzard eventually does actual regular fresh start servers but this will do for now. Them clearly being aware of it by stopping transfers to these servers gives me hope that it'll happen sooner rather than later. Thanks for letting me know about this WillE i cant wait to start tomorrow

*insert kargoz rubbing his hands together trying to figure out how to monetize the server*

You should all try turtle wow, custom raids and content. So much better than classic was for community!!

Considering the "fresh" server is pvp and basically all alliance , isn't the best feeling they should have made 2 servers

We're really popping off now

It’s funny to consider that since it’s been about 5 years since classic launched, it’s been about 5 years since I subbed to you. Pretty cool.

I'd say it's best if the best official fresh is the next seasonal server. Maybe "Season of Questing" or something, so that we see some of the unfinished zones polished up.

Love your content so much, and been a long time sub. Keep it up bro 💪

Just play private servers. Theres a fresh Pserver called STARFALL with 3k Pop. It also has a Launcher and u can play on 1.14 without downloading anything yourself.

In EU, Necrosh HC is more active with several guilds raiding on both Horde and the Alliance. Stitches EU has only some Alliance guilds raiding and a dead Horde side.

I don't know if it's just me wanting the fresh hype or just wanting to try again where I missed out on years ago. I never did achieve my goal of reaching the max level, getting to the end-game, and experiencing Classic when it was current. A lot of situational stuff was going on, my dopamine had been drained, and it was just bad timing on my part. I would like to give it a second chance, but I don't know if it will be the same experience as 2019 this time around. Sure, a lot of people want Vanilla back, but I feel like it isn't nearly enough people to warrant opening a few realms to restart the cycle. Now, I do feel like it would be a no-brainer to have a realm dedicated to each version of WoW; maybe having it be one client that can switch between each version of Classic (Like how there was Plunderstorm/MoP Remix on retail). There isn't any money risk and would only take a little bit of time to implement. That being said, i wonder how quickly the stagnation of these servers will be once they come out. I wonder if Blizzard know that it's just not enough to warrant making new realms for Classic. I guess we will see once SoD is done as they lost me after phase 2 when the game felt like you needed to grind and farm for meta gear just to keep up and be allowed to do the end game. It wasn't that it was bloated or anything, it's just not that casual friendly.

I don't need it now, but I would like to see the original trilogy be permanent. I think it would be cool to see them as stand alone, but with the option to move into the next expansion

Everyone I know asking for tbc fresh at most made it to 70 and ran Kara a couple of times prior to quitting. Out of the entire population of my guild that finished raid Sunwell, no one wants to immediately go back and do it again. Going back to one button dps/healing specs and rotating shamans is not something that I can see most people who played the entire expansion wanting to do. There seems to be a massive population that hypes tbc/classic fresh then immediately quits until the next thing they can pour nostalgia into. People seem to want to do anything at all other than play the version of the game on offer currently