Gundam is literally politics sprinkled with giant robots.

Series like Gundam is political without hammering it too much to our heads. It is simply part of the story and address much about war and society, still you enjoy what it delivers.

He did say later he diden't like that part about Gundam..

I mean compared to western TV it's not as politically pc

And SPACE OPERA

Yeah, we could say that about any form of media. But they are talking about anime and his points are valid. You can love anime and still acknowledge that a lot of anime isn’t doing anything new or special. Doesn’t mean you got to stop watching anime if you admit that.

@@cosodesign8953 I didn't deny it. I literally just said that the same mindset is seen with all media, and not just anime. No need to treat it like an attack on his character and me saying that his point is invalid.

Except anime isn’t as old as other mediums and the standard for quality writing is far lower.

@@willlowry2288 Astroboy aired 1963, it's pretty old. I avoid such generalizations, it doesn't help anyone and just comes off as shallow.

Genuinely, a well constructed comment :D. I'll add to it; try to find an anime aggregator for recommendations. One of favorites is Scamboli Reviews.

Do you watch twitch?

Imo one thing that can also make people biased with "good old anime" is how they binge watching anime when they started to hooked up with anime. At the beginning people usually gonna binge watch a bunch of those amazing/legendary shows such as FMAB, Clannad, Death Note, ect within short amount of time. Then after they began to simply catch up with seasonal anime they will find that there fewer nowadays (seasonal) anime that is good (pique their interest). In the past they can find and watch several title of good anime within a month or even week, but now they can only find one or two within 3 months.

An easy way to put it is the new generation anime fans hype up everything that is made by Mappa or Ufotable which turn up eventually "mid"

Yeah, how "good" or "bad" a piece of art/media is definitely gonna depend on perspective. A lot of what was considered good or popular at the time might be debatable at how well they age or not, something that'll probably be seen when audiences look back at what's considered "good" or popular now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Exactly, I watched Evangelion for the first time not too long ago and it would probably be in my bottom 10% of anime I've watched.

There were still plenty of garbage anime back in the day but they just never made it out of Japan. Not even fan subbed. Only the great ones we know today are the ones they distrbuted out of Japan because they would actually make money.

I don't like politics in my video games Starts listing fallout new Vegas and BioShock.

@@merciless972 I remember Dan Ryckert from Giant Bomb saying he didn't like politics in videogames either. Meanwhile Metal Gear Solid is his favorite franchise of all time 😂

I want to call myself when we get this but most anime is garbage to Mid

I mean, it's true that most anime is garbage, but in the same way it's true that most TV, most movies, most books, most games are garbage. Nobody says "movies are garbage" just because there's two dozen awful Netflix movies for every good one. In any creative medium, maybe 10% of it is actually good, but that doesn't mean you can't have some fun in that other 90%.

@@joekaf Very true. There are some trash shows that have their entertainment value. There’s Masterpieces, there’s Good Shows, there’s Fun Shows (which at times gets mistaken for trash), and then there’s the True Trash Shows that are just straight up bad.

@@deavinwarren1412 It's a fair opinion if you've sat down and watched hundreds of anime but my gripe is when someone's only seen a bunch and they feel comfortable trashing an entire medium. "Most" could be 90% but considering there's 1000's anime, there's still plenty to watch

@@joekaf the bar for writing in anime is far lower than books, movies or television.

It's actually a law called sturgeons law, 90 percent of everything is crap

I feel like people like bad anime more than bad "normal" shows though, that's probably one of the bigger reasons anime is typically viewed from the outside as something not worth delving into, which is certainly how I felt.

@@azquidif6319 in general the anime community can be a lot more loud then the western tv show audience in my experience. So i can see what you are talking about playing a part

Sturgeon's law Ninety percent of everything is crap. So yeah, that includes anime, TV shows, youtube channels, comments, etc.

​@@azquidif6319 I kinda disagree with that. There are a huge number of extremely loud fans of genuinely terrible western shows. It's just that most people think that Anime is a _genre._ They're thinking: "I don't like superheroes, so anime is not for me" While with western stuff, even if everyone and their mother watches Game of Thrones, people still know that that is not the _only_ kind of series there is. The thing is, generic shonen fans aren't any louder than Marvel ones. It's just that movies in general are popular enough where you're always exposed to a wider breadth of genres -not just MCU movies. Anime is simply too niche for that. The only ones that are famous enough are stuff like MHA, JJK, AoT, DS, OP, etc.

Exactly. I hate this pretentious, pseudo-intellectual, bad-faith nonsense people run with these days. Not everything will be an A or S tier anime, or novel, game, movie, etc. It takes talent and passion to produce these things and such qualities are not extremely common. Anyone in the right place under the right circumstances can make an animation or a game. That’s why we get dozens upon dozens of D and C tier media. It is not an anime exclusive thing and I can’t believe people still run with that in 2022.

Fr lmao

I fucking love The Expanse, 10/10

Say that to anime/manga fans that dismisses Comics / cartoons

​@@deavinwarren1412 i haven't personally seen anyone do that but yeah that's equally bad. I've seen more overlap in the comic and anime community than rivalry.

@@deavinwarren1412 even comic book fans are rooting for manga lol

@@makmak3081 yiu haven't seen the toltal people saying cartoons and comics are crap and there hasn't been any good cartoons or comics in years which is just wrong

@@sofiantz2142 ok comic fan like both so what

I suspect not b/c if you make a 3D model of a Mecha, you only need to 'draw' it once. The rest of the time you are just posing it in the shot. A lot of the recent fantasy stuff is from light novels, so I think companies just see them as a safe bet b/c they have an existing fanbase

Ok? How does that effect u? Lol

@@sofiantz2142 it doesn't but it doesn't make it any less annoying something as stupid as "an entire medium/subject I know nothing about is really bad and largely trash" is a opinion that people should treat as stupidly as it sounds rather than acting like he's got a point or worse yet supporting it. People confidently explaining this level of a braindead take and it not being laughed off for being so braindead is just plain annoying regardless of what the subject is.

@@sofiantz2142 You know that these are commonts right. Where people talk about the video

why do you think he knows nothing about it. he has seen quite a lot of stuff it seems like

Don’t care. Get back to digging. You’re only getting older and every minute you’re not digging you hole is another minute wasted.

Garnt and Joey watched, I think

I remember Connor talking about how he voiced in the dub and they all heard it was good but didn’t watch cause of length

People have different tastes in anime something is good for you for somebody else is bad

@T S You could argue "most" anime is not good. But there's still hundreds of good anime. Plenty on Deathnote's level or above

@T S your just wrong

@@Ash_Wen-li there's plenty of anime there's plenty of good cartoons there's plenty of good comics of playing a good manga there's plenty of good books there's plenty of good movies there's plenty of good of every medium

peep the screenplay writer then Hiroshi Seko is doin chainsaw man they also did smol animes like Summer Time Rendering Ajin: Demi-Human Seraph of the End Jujutsu Kaisen Dorohedoro Attack On Titan Mob Psycho 100 Vinland Saga

sometimes it does work tho where the director also does the screenplay.

People seem to forget there’s a lot of anime originals, like his example of Anno and many others directors like imaishi

they said the exact same thing, but gigguk's point was that even so the ones at the top have a style that is unique and identifiable

I respectfully disagree. These past 10 years there have been absolutely amazing TV shows especially originals. Its been a new golden age for TV shows for a while now.

@@lightup6751 Lol in what universe. Because all i see is crap produced by people that cant write to save their lives.

@@MajieB thats because you see what you wanna see lol it is your choice to focus only on the negative. plenty of good shows around.

@@lightup6751 you could have putted some exaples to ilustrate your case instead patronazing him

@@BioMatic2 I could but I think its ridiculous to make a prosperous claim that 99% of all shows are bad. Stranger Things, Dark, Black Mirror, Peaky Blinders, Better Call Saul, Squid Game, Umbrella Academy, Cobra Kai, Arcane, Money Heist, Sherlock, Narcos, The Boys, House of Cards. And those are just off the top of my head. Not to mention Disney has been killing it with new Clone Wars, Bad Batch, The Mandalorian, heck even Kenobi and Book of Boba Fett werent half bad. The reason I didnt make examples is because anyone who says that everything is shit is because thats how they want to see things. Some focus on the things they enjoy, some focus on the things they hate. The reality is that most people enjoy most media if its music, movies or video games.

Eren is kinda annoying at the early season. The whole I hate titans and becomes one of the named titans is kinda cliche.

He is completely welcome to say he doesn't like 90% of anime and say it is trash because he is a fellow human being with his own subjective opinion just as you are welcome to your own. Also you don't know how many he has watched maybe he has watched a hundred separate anime and he just doesn't remember most because he doesn't come at the shows for story he seems to (from his words at least) just want something that allows him to relax and relieve anxiety by watching monkey brain cool shit, and it seems that by watching said shit if there is a story there it will find him whether or not he wants to. And if that story triggers the part of his brain that recognizes political stuff (and only political stuff other intellectual concepts haven't been stated to turn him away) especially the kind from our world he stops watching. You don't get to gatekeep the idea of having negative opinions on anime because no one does. Everyone is different and seeks different things from the media they consume and liking "monkey activation" cool robots, pretty animation and older sci-fi genre styles is not a bad thing. And liking power fantasy harem stuff, the modern trendy stuff like isekai, or more politically charged things isn't bad either. No show is truly bad for everyone even the worst shit will have a fan and the highest acclaimed piece will have detractors. Tldr: just because someone might not watch anime or watches it for different reasons than you does not mean their opinion is bad or good because its an opinion and its subjective. So don't worry about it. P.s. If you feel like someone is wrong about anime or any other umbrella topic try to find what they like in other media and give them a recommendation that you enjoyed that is along those lines. If they enjoy it now you have something to talk about, if they didn't try again with a now better understanding of what they enjoy.

He aint wrong though. Since you also agree that 90% of anime is trash.

@@triggerfairy4070 his sample size is super insufficient (even his limited samples aren't right, since he hates politics yet likes Gundam, FMAB), so he is not qualified for such conclusion. Also, the value of an anime is subjective, one's anime evaluation does not equal to another, so one's 90% trash maybe not trash to another (just like he hated AOT or Deathnote while majority likes it)

@@triggerfairy4070 That's not the issue. The thing is that "90% of anime is trash" statement is something you come to realize on your own after watching anime for years and after completing hundreds of titles. A complete newbie wouldn't know that. And since he doesn't have such an experience, he's basically parroting what others say. Also let's not forget that what is good and what is trash is a bit subjective and changes from person to person depending on their standards, criteria and preferences. And this guy's bar in particular is quite low since as long as something has giant robots and mindless action he's satisfied. Well, guess what. There are thousands of shows like that since anime is THE medium about giant robots and mindless action in general. According to his own standards then, the worthwhile anime are way more than just 10%. Long story short, he's talking out of his ass. That's what annoys me and not the statement in itself.

@@triggerfairy4070 that's basically every piece of Media

I just convinced a friend to watch it blind. He texted me today that it was a masterpiece. Arcane is just GOATed.

Its been 0 days

Isn't AOT also a mecha anime 😂

from the way they tweet after they watched it, i think all three of them like it tho

U sound like an "intellectual" 😆

Garnt, the Fate fan, talking about Gundam being hard to get into. As a fellow Nasuverse enjoyer, I find that hilarious.

Most media is garbage. I don't think most people love *media* they like a book series, or a specific movie, or a game franchise. If you enjoy "anime" you are probably enjoying it in a way that is atypical of most people. Likely more tolerant of some of the tropes or value things exclusive to the medium. I honestly think the anime fandom is weird because so many people are like this (how many people watch movies vs being really into movies?), but it's probably because it was niche for such a long time that most viewers were people who went out of their way to watch it. Now that anime is becoming more mainstream, I hear the opposite "I love anime." But they're not into the medium, they just found a few shows they like and are just as unlikely to leave their comfort zone as they were before.

People absolutely say that movies nowadays are trash

the manga 'Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai' was a mega hit in Japan and asian countries, it was top 9 upto 2009 (although last manga published in 1996), sold more than Yuyuhakusho, Jojo, HxH, Bleach etc with over 50 M copies. I think 3 reasons the anime was not that discussed is 1. the original fans are kind of old now, usually in 30s and 40s 2. the anime adaption does not look good, esp the color looks terrible even compared to the first anime adaption version. 3. There was not enough hype advertising, esp to the western audience who are not familiar. nontheless, the story is still briliant (many old fans remember it) esp it's basically the 'Adventure of Popp, the most well developed side character who suited better for the main character', so it will be a real treasure treat for anyone who discovers it.

Based

Science Fantasy stomps both individually

Nothing wrong with that! As long as you like the designs thats a valid reason to collect gunpla

EHHHHHHHHHH I wouldn't do such a generalization. There are a bunch of bad TV shows, books, and movies that are just as bad as bad anime, 90% of any given medium is mediocre, anime is just newer so it doesn't have nearly as much quantity.

​@@anotherpawn I stand by what I said. I mean we ARE talking about the medium that produced Eromanga Sensei (and that's not even the worst incest show!!!) At least if you've got the most offensive book to ever exists you don't have to actually see the gag-inducing imagery.