Wilson Combat vs Noveske - Barrel Comparison

Wilson Combat vs Noveske - Barrel Comparison - Project SPR 2.0

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9 жыл бұрын

This video is a comparison between the Noveske SPR 18" barrel and the Wilson Combat Recon Tactical 18" barrel.
It really is a hard to decide which of these barrels is the better choice for the Project 2.0 gun. Both have their strength...
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@jayocto 5 жыл бұрын

I'm currently a barrel machist noveske since john passed !

@deeremeyer1749 6 жыл бұрын

I've got two Wilson Combat 18" Match barrels. One in 5.56x45 NATO 1:8 and one in 7.62x40WT 1:12. Both in "self-built" rifles with Timney 3-lb. comp triggers, Magpul STR stocks (for cheek weld rather than storage) and I load "bulk" Hornady V-Max bullets. 40, 50 and 55-grain bullets for the 5.56 and 110-grain bullets in 7.62x40WT. I convert my own 7.62x40WT cases from once-fired Lake City and I use PMC brass for my 5.56x45 "varmint" loads. Both rifles are sub-MOA. On multiple occasions I've put TEN rounds in 1.100 or less with the 5.56x45 (1.100 using my pickup hood as a "benchrest" and .990" across an actual bench on a range) and my first non-range shot ever with the 7.62x40WT center-punched a prairie dog at 150 yards with a 110 V-Max at 2450. I think you're smoking crack on your twist rate comments. I've fired 4000-odd round through my Wilson 5.56 barrel and as I said, I use 40-55 grain V-Maxes interchangeably. I haven't "blown up" any 40s with a 1:8 twist at 3300 fps muzzle (across a chronograph), so if you think you're going to be blowing up 55s at 3100 fps (that's what I see across a chronograph) I think you're full of it.

@dannyhanny1191 5 жыл бұрын

Your point about the differences in rifling was something new to me - thank you.

@charlesycoker 8 жыл бұрын

I have ran both Wilson Combat and Noveske barrels. WC barrels have been MORE accurate than Noveskes. I have also shot 55g FMJ out of 1/7 with no issues. I do wish that WC made a rifle length 18" in a low 30oz barrel.

@drzmanproject 9 жыл бұрын

a lot of great information you packed in there, thanks for posting this!

@DocTacDad 9 жыл бұрын

DrZman Thanks for watching!

@yankeediesel 9 жыл бұрын

All my Noveskes are lasers with 55gr and up. If you want a custom 1911 Go Wilson, you want a rifle barrel go Novesve. You forgot to mention pinned gas block on Noveske another plus.

@johnmckinney1493 6 жыл бұрын

Just ordered a 1911 Wilson barrel. Like b oth companies and know people that work for noveske. Great company, just $$$$.

@tulugaqcreative5370 5 жыл бұрын

that was a silly ass statement. In fact all of that was silly as shit... do you know anything at all about guns? Shooting? loading anything?

@southernstacker7315 4 жыл бұрын

yankeediesel I agree. Noveske is the only choice.

@garyjohns4711 3 жыл бұрын

My wilson would do a 5/8 inch 5 shot group at 200 YARDS Lets see Your noveske do that any better!!!

@Brock_CO 3 жыл бұрын

Imho the gas block is a downside because i want to mount my own adjustable gas block. Otherwise I would vote noveske based on the research I've done

@modernwarriorsystems7347 8 жыл бұрын

NOVESKE!. I haven never cared for their rifles. They are amazing rifles and awesome quality. Just not my cup of tea, but I do use their barrels all the time. John Noveske had that special sauce and just did them right. Only real guy who got 7.5's to run correctly and reliably. In fact, I just ordered a 12.5 noveske barrel to put on my AR with a Mark6 and I am going to be running it like an SPR. The Noveske 12.5" will run 1-1.5MOA out to 600 yards all day long.

@Mark-zb8fi 8 жыл бұрын

Buy BOTH, and install them on 2 AR 15's. Problem solved! lol

@mikes3174 9 жыл бұрын

Both are nice barrels and would serve you well. You're right that Wilson barrel is just gorgeous. This is a tough decision but I give the edge to the Noveske. I think that the 1/7 rate of twist will yield slightly better accuracy at longer distances.Good luck with the project and the tough decision you have to make.

@A8vscRrabbit 9 жыл бұрын

i have more than enough various ammo through a 14.5 noveske afghan barrel and its one of the most accurate rifles ive ever used. sub moa is not the word. i first shot it at 50 yards the holes were touching. we went out to 100 yards, i was doubling holes! the irony is that it wasnt even my gun! the rifle was built by a former amourer (army), who was also a designated marksman with a few combat tours under his belt. im lucky emough to shoot with him (on vacations) and his brother (also an army marksman) on weekends at our farm. i say noveske. i have been with your channel for quite a while. i love it.

@MavHunter20XX 9 жыл бұрын

Is it me or does the army produce better marksmen/counter snipers vs marines?

@A8vscRrabbit 9 жыл бұрын

MavHunter20XX I won't touch that one. I'll try to bring both out today if they get a break today. Both combat vets with hash marks on their stocks if you get my drift. The grunt has a nice" purple" souvenir on his neck from Afghanistan that almost made him a dirt torpedo.

@MavHunter20XX 9 жыл бұрын

***** Maybe I should retract my comment? Maybe not.

@A8vscRrabbit 9 жыл бұрын

MavHunter20XX why? your not insulting anyones mother. opinions are such. i bet they would go back and forth with who is a better shot. honestly, both services cross train to further their knowledge base and experience.

@SlightIyVicious 9 жыл бұрын

MavHunter20XX As far as snipers I couldn't tell you. But while your average soldier doesn't go past 300 meters to qualify with their rifles Marines push out to 500 meters with theirs. It's kind of like soccer (trust me it'll make sense). The US World Cup team is without a doubt better than most of the world. Hell the fact that we even make it to the cup proves it. But if you were to take your average Americans and form a team and put them up against an average group of people from pretty much anywhere else in the world the Americans would get their collective asses handed to them. Does that mean that Americans are bad at soccer? It can if you judge the group as a whole and not just the best the group produces. Also an important thing to remember, most of the soldiers on the Army shooting teams are not real soldiers. They were great civilian shooters that the Army hired and gave ranks to so they would compete for them (kind of like the Marine Corps Band). Where as the Marines on the Marine Corps shooting team are real no shit Marines who have actually gone through boot camp and SOI. Draw your own conclusions but there is just some background info on the subject.

@tugboat_actual 9 жыл бұрын

MOA is minute of angle not minute of accuracy

@DocTacDad 9 жыл бұрын

RIVER_CITY_TACTICAL (midnitesi) Right...I caught myself saying that...doh!

@tugboat_actual 9 жыл бұрын

just making sure

@Googalite 7 жыл бұрын

There's a lot of mis-information in this video. All ammo, except maybe some frangible, will not spin apart with a 1/7 twist. Your statements are ill informed. Second, the Noveske chamber is designed to be a bit looser because Wylde chambers can be a problem with full-auto. The Wylde chamber is fine for semi-auto. Noveske designed its chamber to be as accurate as possible while providing 100% reliability in a full-auto rifle. So, the Noveske is designed for REAL fighting and may be slightly less accurate. The Wilson barrel is for HOBBY GUNS.

@Youtubeuser1aa 9 ай бұрын

Lol

@86keen 8 жыл бұрын

I built a Wilson combat urban sniper and with my hand loads 77 grain I am consistently getting .5MOA. MY personal best is .278MOA but that only happened 2x.

@vassal11 9 жыл бұрын

I love my 1 in 8. I love to shoot 77's but like to stockpile 55's. Works great for all of em.

@modernwarriorsystems7347 8 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry. I'm calling bullshit on the 1:7 twist tearing bullets apart in mid-air.

@kanyewest1365 8 жыл бұрын

Same. Last I checked, 55 grain ammo wasn't detonating in mid air when I fired it through my 1 and 7 twist barrels.

@jeff17s 8 жыл бұрын

Not even my 40 gr do that in my 1/7 twist. I actually get better accuracy than 55 gr

@MikeMikeSmith 8 жыл бұрын

People say the 1-7 twist wears faster... Which I can understand, although I haven't seen any deviation in accuracy over the 3000+ rounds I have put through my 1-7 barrel.

@AbsolutionArmament 8 жыл бұрын

I feel as if he was mis-quoting The jackets ripping off is from velocity. Bench rest shooting can do this with really hot loads.

@Adventures-cb6sz 8 жыл бұрын

I have an 18" Noveske SPR barrel in a MK 12 Mod 1 RAS and it shoots everything from 52 grain to 75 grain 1/2" out to 300 all day. Favorite fuck around load is 55 v max over 24.4 Varget in LC brass in CCI primers. Devastating on coyotes and boringly accurate for bench shooting.

@axlvixn3174 7 жыл бұрын

nice video..either of the 2 will do...thanks Doc...

@MinnesotaFats 2 жыл бұрын

I got a Wilson Combat 308 barrel, 18 inch for tree stand and blind use. It's ridiculous accurate and shoots well under MOA. I'm not sure what else a person would want in a stainless barrel. My next build will use a Wilson Combat barrel, no doubt about it.

@Kamwi_003 8 жыл бұрын

You want max accuracy but didn't get a .223 Rem or Wylde Chamber?

@SourPatchPuss 4 жыл бұрын

Right??? Wtf!

@TexasOutdoorsNetwork 6 жыл бұрын

I have ran barrels from both companies and the Wilson Combat barrels have potshot the Noveskes. My son's 6.8 build started with a Noveske that didn't group well, pulled it and put a WC lightweight hunter in it, groups shrank, had a 5.56 barrel from Noveske that didn't meet my expectations either.

@bearclaw556 9 жыл бұрын

I have fired almost 1700rnds of 55gr ammo thru my ss noveske 14.5 and I'm getting right around 1moa, give or take .2, with just a bipod... I had the same concerns about the 1/7 twist but after taking it to the range multiple times i slowly gained more confidence in it, I realized its a non issue(or very small).

@Ryansrangereport 9 жыл бұрын

No one is tearing apart 55gr bullets w/ 1:7 barrels. I've shot 1000s of rounds though 1:7s w/ no issues. I shoot 53 gr amax all the time. 1:8 only gets you a marginal stability rate on 77 gr projectiles (check it on bergers this rate stability calculator)

@TOAB556 5 ай бұрын

Thank you

@ccwynn6657 7 жыл бұрын

You answered your own questioning about the 1/8 vs 1/7. The 5R used by Noveske is more gentle on the casing so the casing will not fail for varmint class rounds running at high RPMs. The Mk12 SPR was designed to run MK262 Mod 0 or 1 (77gr). If you are running DMR status, you will use the heavier bullets, to assure better accuracy in cross winds. It also is more lethal.

@cfunk4236 7 жыл бұрын

Good vide

@specialk5548 2 жыл бұрын

Dude straight up no BS Wilson 👍 not to say Noveske is bad no way! I love them both 🇺🇸💖

@MavHunter20XX 9 жыл бұрын

the Mil-Spec m4 is a 1:7 twist... haven't seen bullet disintegration at any point.

@newgeneration3496 3 жыл бұрын

I have a WC match grade sbr barrel & love love love it. I struggle to imagine a better barrel cause it just screams quality, but I look forward to getting a Noveske to compare it to once they’re not back ordered for 2yrs. Must say something about how good they are.

@WhySooSeriouslol 3 жыл бұрын

I just received my WC 11.3 barrel! Ordered back in December!!

@jonathanrogers9961 5 жыл бұрын

i know this is an older video, and i am curious to see what choice you made and how it worked out, but i would go noveske. for a SPR you need 1:7, and i would prefer a rifle length gas system (im assuming 18" barrell)

@lostwizardcat9910 7 жыл бұрын

Dear sir, I have over 40 years experience in reloading/ accurizing long rifles and I have NEVER known anyone that has had an issue of "overspinning" a bullet causing it to disintegrate in flight .I call bullshit on that! The ONLY time that i have had bullets disintegrate in flight is when they are too hot, traveling over 4200 fps out of a 220 swift or 22/250 or such. As far as which barrel to use, What grain bullet do you want to shoot? Decide and go from there. If you're as concerned about accuracy as you let on then obviously you're reloading, if not and you're going to shoot factory loads it's not going to make a hill of beans what barrel you use. Something that my 4+ decades of shooting has taught me is.... For maximum accuracy, ""You build a round for the barrel, not a barrel for the round"

@phillipcostner1431 2 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree.Plus people are so concerned about 1 to 2 In groupings.i guess there preparing for some slim aliens😂

@jameybaxter Жыл бұрын

Necro response here, but the round he is referring to in the speer was an ultra light weight polymer tipped varmint projectile.

@500spectre 9 жыл бұрын

I have the Wilson. I think its a great barrel. Great groups. I would suggest the Wilson over the Noveske. It is a little lighter and will probably produce the same accuracy. I would also recommend the 1:8 rifling. It is more versatile. If your really trying to hone a rifle build the Wilson gas system is shorter and will put the weight closer to your shoulder. It may be a little dirtier, but if you put a chrome/NIB/titanium coated bold it shouldn't be an issues.

@JohnDoe-re1ll 2 жыл бұрын

I have recently bought a Noveske Afghan 14.5" rifle and like it a lot. What I don't like is the weight. The thing is front heavy, and therefore a bit unwieldy. That said, my regular HD and truck gun is a JP 300 BLK pistol with a 10.5" barrel. At 50 yards the accuracy is very close. The big thing is it is so much more maneuverable and balanced compared to the Noveske. I may look into putting a CF Proof 16" barrel on the Noveske to see what it yields. I have never heard of someone doing this, but if it works out it would be a helluva fighting gun.

@InsaneActual 8 жыл бұрын

can't go wrong with noveski

@badlilstang 6 жыл бұрын

Noveske

@BigMikesHobbyChannel 9 жыл бұрын

I would personally go with the noveske. I don't see the 1:7 being near as big of an issue as mentioned. There are so many guys who have had zero issues running 55grn through 1:7 that I really wouldnt worry about it. Enforcing that, if you are going for utmost accuracy, then reloading and heavier bullets are going to be the vast majority of your shooting anyway. I also like the longer gas length on the noveske, but I wouldnt say no to an 18" barrel with a midlength system either. Noveske also has the superior chamber and rifling as you mentioned.

@steelbucks1202 7 ай бұрын

Best statement I’ve seen, it makes complete sense

@DocLarsen44 9 жыл бұрын

I am not making a judgement between the two barrels. I would say, however, that fluting it a wonderful thing: reduces weight without appreciably changing the strength. BUT, the machining done to cut the fluting does introduce stresses into the metal which could introduce some adversities to accuracy (harmonics) if not dealt with. I would want to know if the Wilson barrel was de-stressed (similar to annealing but with differing temperature targets/times) following the fluting. If not, I would count it as a minus 0.5-1.0. 1:7 vs 1:8 is very subjective; I would ask, "Do you really expect to be shooting many 55 grain projectiles in a SPR built expressly with accuracy in mind?" I know I wouldn't and that is why my accuracy AR has a 1:7 barrel.

@randallblack4658 4 жыл бұрын

Also Noveskie Barrel should give you a slightly faster bullet speed. Also pinned gas block to me is a nice bonus.

@user-un5my5bw4j Жыл бұрын

Wilson combat makes the best AR15 barrels i ever bore scoped and are accurate as hell

@tylermentink2276 9 жыл бұрын

As some one who has a couple thousands rounds through a 16" noveske I can tell you that I wouldn't buy a different manufacturer. I have also had 0 issues with 55gr 5.56

@gz989898 9 жыл бұрын

Novseke! You will not be disappointed. Zero ftf at 5k as of now. I have ran 55 to 77 all sub. Purchased prior to johns passing don't know if they have changed

@codywithrow7993 2 жыл бұрын

I think that’s the difference between the barrels. I think there’s a lot of people looking for confirmation bias in the comments here

@rlm2010az Жыл бұрын

Great information

@seanwhite304 4 жыл бұрын

IMO Wilson Combat makes some of the best barrel for Accuracy. The only Noveske I have experience with is the Afghan. The 14.5 Afghan is what I used for my 3 Gun Rifle . We only shot out to 300 yards . My Wilson Combat SR Tactical shoots 0.84 MOA at 100 yards. 1.1" MOA at 300 yards . Best group I got with Afghan was 0.92" at 100 and 1.4" at 300 . All my groups were shot with Factory Black Hills MK262 . To this day the absolute best group I ever shot was with Colt SOCOM . It was 0.52" at 100 and 0.97" at 200 . I've never shot a group at 300 with it . I would choose Wilson Combat . For price and performance it can't be beat . I paid under $300 for my WC Barrel . Afghan was close to $450

@jmac2465 2 жыл бұрын

Had the exact(almost) WC barrel, but with a rifle length gas system and it was smooooooooth. Shot very accurate. Could not touch my Mk12 Mod O with 18” Bergera barrel tho. Loads from 62gr up to 77Gr Blackhills. Beautiful WC barrel!!

@MavHunter20XX 9 жыл бұрын

00:11 The lower one, pick the lower one. :P More metal, more stiffness and the longer gas system will help with dwell time so your bolt carrier doesn't move until later. However, I would opt for an adjustable gas system. Also heavier bullets tend to travel farther (has more to do with the shape though).

@A8vscRrabbit 9 жыл бұрын

We shot 55gr m193 all the way up to 75gr hornady match. I was amazed at the accuracy of the rifle. I'm actually still amazed, we have gone out past 800 yards with it using a Nikon 3x scope making hits and passing through a Chevy k5 blazer door with them m193s'.Being an ak guy (read rifleman)and not so much a marksman, I'm gonna have say I'm need to build one of these long barrel ar platforms with a "relax" pod for head popping at 1k yards!

@MavHunter20XX 9 жыл бұрын

***** I also noticed with AK's the "action" seems to be longer, meaning the bolt locking occurs farther away from the magazine than does an AR-15. Just so many things that will keep me from buying both the AK or AR. If I could get my hands on a vz 58 that shoots 5.56 and accept stanag mags I'd go for it.

@A8vscRrabbit 9 жыл бұрын

MavHunter20XX the kalash has alot of bolt mass going back and forth that causes all kinds drama when shooting i love it

@A8vscRrabbit 9 жыл бұрын

***** i like to call it the ak rock and roll! haha

@A8vscRrabbit 9 жыл бұрын

MavHunter20XX favorite rifle is my Sig Sauer 556 patrol. half ak half ar. piston driven perfection

@rccrawler2199 9 жыл бұрын

I am looking for a barrel for a rifle build and wanted a 16" 1:8 fluted. The only option wilson doesn't offer is a 1:8. I think I'm going to just go with the 18" barrel. As previously stated fluted barrels are a huge improvement in stiffness.

@thelongranger9238 7 жыл бұрын

You brought up a number of important considerations in making a choice. All things considered I can't understand how you can just "buy" a barrel and slap it in w/o it being mated to the bolt/upper in YOUR particular firearm. I had Krieger rebarrel my Rem 700 and to do it correctly they required my complete action to properly set the headspace. I just got into the AR scene with a Wilson Combat Super Sniper after wanting one for years. Have you considered a Krieger rebarrel besides the Noveske and Wilson products? Just curious. My bolt gun is .25 MOA. I would trust Krieger to rebarrel my Wilson in the future when it's needed because they did such a great job on my Rem 700. Thank you.

@robertrobinson5001 7 жыл бұрын

@TheLongRanger, you make an excellent point here. Anyone considering building an AR platform rifle with the intent on any type of REAL accuracy, should consider getting the bolt (i.e., extractor or bolt carrier group...aka bcg) matched to not only the caliper of choice, but the barrel as well. Quality companies do this. ODIN WORKS, JP Precision, and Faxon Firearms are just a few. Speaking of bcg's, consider going with nickel boron. My personal experience with this material is you can't go wrong. Although cleaning is easy, you should still completely disassemble the entire bcg, clean and reassemble after each session at the range. I do and I'm certain my rifles will last forever....barring some unexpected catastrophy.

@robertrobinson5001 7 жыл бұрын

btw, it helps 100% with your accuracy!

@christinaleah6662 9 жыл бұрын

You have both. Test both. Also, no mention about ammo. If you are only using one or a couple types of ammo, test them and come back with the results. It seems like a pretty easy decision. If the difference is negligible, go with the less expensive barrel. You know what I would like to see? Using the same ammo, test this against a $700-$900 AR with the same twist rate and the same optics or sight you're planning on using on your SPR. I bet the results are interesting.

@musicmanace0 9 жыл бұрын

I have a Wilson combat barrel & love it. I have no experience with Noveske but I'll +1 for the Wilson barrels.

@jerryalmand3885 4 жыл бұрын

The 1:7 twist rate in 5.56 NATO barrels make for exceptional accuracy with heavier bullets in the 62 to 77 grain category. The 75 to 77 grain match bullet ammo performs best (accuracy at distance with greater lethal ballistics) with the 1:7 twist rate. I have built most of my AR's with defense parameters in mind. That said, my 22" barreled, 1:9 twist rate specimen is a supreme tack driver with quality 55 gr. ammo, but built for small game. My 18" variant has a Daniel Defense S2W barrel. It has a similar weight and profile to the Noveske barrel in your video. Its accuracy is truly special. My 16" Noveske barreled AR's are awesome. I have both the stainless and hammer forged steel variants. From my perspective as a Noveske owner, you'll always appreciate the quality and never regret paying a bit more for a premium barrel.

@drmaudio 9 жыл бұрын

I would go with the Noveske. Gas system, chamber, and rifling. I have a 1 in 8 polygonal (different brand) and I regularly get higher velocity then I should from a 16" with the heavier projectiles. I attribute this to a good seal, but who knows. I also get sub minuet groups with match ammo despite my 5.56 chamber. Also, 1 in 7 is fine for 55 gr. though you may be over spinning lighter varmint rounds if you plan on shooting them. Having said all that, you can't go wrong with either.

@iandavidwolfe 9 жыл бұрын

I have a stainless 5.56 chambered Wilson Combat barrel and love it! Go with the Wilson IMO. A 1/8" twist is a better choice, sub minute is plenty accurate, even with standard rifling it will last a very long time, it's weighs less, and it looks much better. I must admit, it is like splitting hairs between the two, but I would still go with the Wilson without hesitation. Hope this helps man. Looking forward to the rest of the build!

@DocTacDad 9 жыл бұрын

Ian Wolfe Thanks man! Is your Wilson the Recon Tactical?

@iandavidwolfe 9 жыл бұрын

No prob man. No it's not a Recon Tactical. It's an older varmint bull barrel that's not in production any more. It's appears that it is very similar to their current 18" 5.56 bull barrel though.

@tommyseabee2176 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve never owned a Wilson. I do have a Noveske Cold Hammer chrome lined barrel that is very very accurate. Less then an inch at 100yards. About .7” 5 round. I’m sure their stainless barrels are even more accurate.

@thegolflife7565 4 жыл бұрын

Can you do a performance comparison between the V Seven Weapons barrel and the comparable Noveske stainless barrel?

@ajarboe18 9 жыл бұрын

I have the Noveske 16" Recon, to cut down on weight, and I shoot a little under moa with 55 grain xm193, and with 62 grain Federal Fusion, I drop bullet on top of bullet at 100 yards!!! I was skeptical like you with the 1/7 twist shooting lighter bullets, but I would not look back, and use the Noveske!!! Added bonus, the gas block is pinned and don't have to worry about set screws coming loose!

@aarongentry4575 7 жыл бұрын

I've gotten some pretty good groups in my Larue tactical stealth 1/8 twist .223 wylde 16inch Barrel. Without match grade ammo at 100 yards and its solid easily up to 300

@nolimeplease 7 жыл бұрын

Drop the Wilson you'll never get subminuteofaccuracy cause the flutes will deflect the exit aerodynamics of the ultra poor twist stabilization. Noveske has that shit covered.

@leeroywilly 7 жыл бұрын

Now that you've had time to become familiar with these options, which did you go with? Did you get a chance to try out both? What did you think? Thanks!

@thomthompson9217 6 жыл бұрын

This is probably too late to help but I built my SPR with the Noveski 18 inch 5R barrel. It’s a tack driver and is so Reliable that id take it into combat. I’ve got a Daniel Defense & YHM carbine to shoot 55 grain but wanted a rifle dedicated to shooting 75 to 80 grain pills.

@erikwilson7622 3 жыл бұрын

Ended up getting a Wilson for around $140 direct (and the deal only lasted a couple of days?!?). I'm definitely not AR knowledgeable, but I do know accuracy. Using Fed 55 Grn, FMJ cheap "Box of Ammo", the first five, five shot groups went, 1.7", 1.24", the rest under 1". On an Anderson, with Black Rain Trigger. All I can say is awesome.

@KaneGregory 4 жыл бұрын

I’m weird I don’t like shiny barrels and noveske choices in music in there videos won me over ✝️

@minutemanqvs 9 жыл бұрын

Noveske for me, the intermediate gas system gives a bit of a smoother recoil, the chamber is better for precision and 1/7 is just as good for the type of precision ammo you are going to shoot anyway. Plus I have shot a lot of 55gr commercial ammo in 1/7 Colt barrels without any problem.

@solodad001 8 жыл бұрын

My 5.56 NATO White Oak Armament 16" 1/7 barrel is great with Hornady Superformance 75gr.

@JGstunts22 9 жыл бұрын

Tuff choice . I'd say performance noveski is tuff to beat I have 2of their barrels. But that Wilson looks amazing

@Jewifer333x2 5 жыл бұрын

I got like .8 MOA out of my chrome lined Noveske 16 inch with the 75gr BTHP federal hornady load.

@GunfightersArmory 9 жыл бұрын

I own the that exact Wilson barrel. It's always under .75 MOA with M855. I couldn't believe it when I first shot it! USE THE WILSON!

@okiinu 9 жыл бұрын

6 of one, half dozen of another: go with the Wilson Combat - nothing wrong with looking good if you can back it up with performance.

@modernwarriorsystems7347 8 жыл бұрын

The fact about the 1:7 twist rate barrels not working well with lighter bullets really doesn't have much to do with how much the bullet weighs. It has more to do with the shape and the length of the bullet It just so happens that heavier bullets have to get longer to get heavier, because the diameter must stay the same obviously. So, it's really the fact that lighter bullets are SHORTER is why they don't work well in higher twist rate barrels. Think about if you tried shooter something that was shaped like a flat circle like a dish and spun it. It would become very unstable very fast and start tumbling in the air. Then take something that is shaped like a think needle that is sharp on both ends. It would be very stable. It has to do with the moment of inertia in physics and how the longer objects spin and stabilize as opposed to shorter objects.

@darrinray550 7 жыл бұрын

personal choice and experience... noveske! accuracy and reliability. also it is very similar to the wylde chambering but a bit better and a bit more specialized. put in both and go out, his please don't bum an spr with looks alone the decision factor. just my 2 cents. either way it is awesome and I'm sure the noveske barrel won't go to waste

@KNIGHTRACEDOTCOM 8 жыл бұрын

Also in the specs, in my opinion a 5R rifling is always tighter patterns. I like the 1/7 for the 69"s also

@jamesjentz4699 7 жыл бұрын

William Knight t

@danielhaley89 4 жыл бұрын

“Sub minute of accuracy” 😂

@rickc.4294 3 жыл бұрын

Right? Concerned about accuracy, but lacks fundamental understanding of it. Smh

@freedomfighter5054 4 жыл бұрын

I have the Wilson Combat one that you had it’s not flooded everything is dead nuts beautiful polished insideAnd it’s a match grade barrelAnd a one and seven twist And I paid $50 extra for them to paint the barrel black

@coreymoyers 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve never seen an over stabilized bullet but I’ve seen lots under stabilized. The extra twist comes at the cost of button wear and velocity.

@mederosalexis1 4 жыл бұрын

I recently bought the super sniper by Wilson. Omg, its cream! I upgraded an aero rifle that had a ballistic advantage barrel [that was really good btw] and the difference is amazing. How amazing? Amazing enough that I can even shoot steel cased tula ammo and still get sub moa grouping all day! Something my BA hanson barrel or my noveske wouldn't do. I can shoot crap ammo like if its match grade! Lmao. Wilson is that good! Bkw for the cons- its pricey and it feels 2x as heavy as my BA, noveske or any other barrel. That's because the Wilson is a bull barrel. So expect the weight!!!

@DanielOrtegoUSA 9 жыл бұрын

I have the light 16" Wilson 1-8 fluted w/med-length gas block. No experience with any other tube. Can't really say more than that but since I intend to eventually go with a can, I'll have to be conservative in terms of cycle rate in order to prevent over heating. I configured mine for balance and versatility. The BILLet upper/lower combined with a full-length rail will hopefully work. Frankly, it's a bit risky to deviate from Wilson's carefully configured offerings but that's just me. If I had it to do over again I would've gone with the TacSR w/Billet and be done.

@KNIGHTRACEDOTCOM 8 жыл бұрын

Wilson makes great 1911's but Noveske has a better barrel in my opinion... pulling a wilson on my ar now.

@gapster46 9 жыл бұрын

I have no dogs in the fight, but I’ll bet you go with the Noveske.

@tedintessimone6985 5 жыл бұрын

Love my wilson combat

@user-pd3lf3uu6j 11 ай бұрын

my wilson combat build is amazingly accurate..I did however go with the 223 Wylde

@StevenParker55 9 жыл бұрын

This is a good video. Id be all over the Noveske, intermediate gas system is the best for 18in. B/c this is an SPR build, I would never shoot 55 grain out of that gun, use your regular carbine for that. I can tell your leaning towards the Noveske. The Wilson Combat looks awesome but the Noveske is the better barrel for this build.

@Majikman871 7 жыл бұрын

Im just seeing this but i bet you were happier with the Wilson Combat

@freedomfighter5054 3 жыл бұрын

I wanted the fluted one but they were out of stock they didn’t know when they were getting back in so I went with the non-fluted barrel it’s OK I have them paint it black it’s just a gorgeous barrel

@TAShannon1 3 жыл бұрын

I have tested many different loads through a 1:7 barrel purely for the sake of experimentation. I did overspin on particular load through a 1:7. The 35 Grain NTX lmao 5 for 5 shots. However I have probably fired 300 53gr Vmax at the range with no issues.

@apache2013 9 жыл бұрын

What is the gas block shoulder diameter of the Wilson barrel?

@electroniccheeks 9 жыл бұрын

I would say Noveske all the way, if it wasn't for that 1/7 twist.

@jeremytownsend5972 8 жыл бұрын

what barrel did you decide to go with? im in the same boat now with my build im in at this moment. thanks i liked your info in this video really helpful with stuff to think about

@DocTacDad 8 жыл бұрын

+Jeremy Townsend I actually went with a Black Hole Weaponry barrel over both of these...It gave me the best accuracy for the best price...Check them out!

@jeremytownsend5972 8 жыл бұрын

+DocTacDad could you tell me the name & specs of this barrel you're talking about & ill go check them out please. ive been really wanting this wilson suprr sniper barrel with one of their uppers for some time now but they still dont have one available as they tell me they're sold out

@patrickbradford6223 8 жыл бұрын

One of my best friends bought a black hole barrel, it started with decent accuracy. Now won't shoot less than 2 moa. I looked into the bore and I could see the chatter where the broach had chattered in forming the rifling. I have talked to some other shooters in my area and they all said that black hole has gone down in quality.

@donhosbf 6 жыл бұрын

I shoot 55gr out of my 2 Noveske 1 in 7 barrels. Afghan and Infidel. Both ding 6, 8 and 10 inch plates at 210yards with boring regularity. and both barrels shoot sub moa 5 shot with 77gr

@Mr2fierce 9 жыл бұрын

I have a Noveske 14.5'' project ares and it's grouping same as my mk12 rifle at a 100 meters it might differ at longer range both are sub moa with 77grn Otm. One thing to consider when picking a barrel is who manufactures the blanks, I had great experience with shiellen, Douglas and criterion barrels even my BCM 410 buttoned rifle barrels shoots sub moa groups. Like I said before making a decision see who manufactures the blanks. 55 grn bullet works great on 1/7 twist but I wouldn't put anything less than 50 grn in it. Frangible is a no go, it's like shooting a sand paper through the barrel.

@JrFreak300 9 жыл бұрын

Can't go wrong with either...

@JBud1911 9 жыл бұрын

If your using a 55 grn and you want ACCURACY 1-9 is what you want. 1-7 twist is good for higher grn bullets. Noveske barrels I have never used because of high price. I use WILSON and I LOVE them. WILSON, WILSON, and WILSON

@stuckcase7775 2 жыл бұрын

55 gr Go 1-14 twist

@martywilkinson6722 9 жыл бұрын

I have this exact same dilemna. I'm building an SPR and these are the two barrels I have been debating. The Wilson is a beauty and I have no doubt it is an awesome barrel. Does Wilson make them or do they contract them out? I still plan to go with the Noveske due to their reputation and their chamber mods you mentioned. I am building from a Noveske Gen III lower, so that also pushes me in that direction. No losers in this debate. I have a second lower and I imagine the Wilson will end up on it before I am done! Thanks for the video.

@Knicensimple 9 жыл бұрын

based on your video i choose the Wilson

@georgewashington938 6 жыл бұрын

what is a minute of accuracy?

@MJDGator 9 жыл бұрын

LaRue Stealth barrel...My thought is the Noveske will be more accurate if you want to shoot heavier bullets. I thought they used Pac-Nor blanks for their barrels. Not sure who the source is for Wilson barrels. Which one did you choose? I am guessing you have made the choice already.

@w8lftr76 9 жыл бұрын

I have a WC in 300 blk and I am amazed how scary accurate it is.

@michaelbattin6717 Жыл бұрын

what grain bullet are you shooting? I just bought a w/C 300 blackout. Im leaning towards a 125 gr for hunting hogs-coyotes

@w8lftr76 Жыл бұрын

@@michaelbattin6717 I shoot Nosler 125 gn.

@wrxified 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I have a .450 bushmaster WC barrel and the thing amazes me simply due to fact that shooting a .450 is like throwing a watermelon through the air. Just a heads up. M.O.A. = Minute of Angle not Minute or Accuracy.

@Dan77845 9 жыл бұрын

Minute of accuracy?

@Dan77845 9 жыл бұрын

***** MOA=Minute of Angle. Not accuracy.

@Dan77845 9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, saw the time stamp on that and was thinking along those lines.

@Yeoman7 9 жыл бұрын

Polygonal says it right there, for accuracy and longevity .

@codcade 7 жыл бұрын

Wilson combat barrels are my favorite

@senorboardhead 6 жыл бұрын

The Wilson already has you sold on it's looks, which is good because that will save you from all the exploding bullets that the Noveske 1:7 twist will be splattering around.

@dantepoe4721 9 жыл бұрын

I have the noveske in a 1:8 twist and it rocks.... got it as Sheri was about to leave good luck getting Noveske to sell you one now or just buy their shooting team rifle for 3k

@Ryansrangereport 9 жыл бұрын

I think you mean Minute of Angle? Either way I think it depends on the rest of your gun, and the ammo. If it does not shoot sub MOA can you send it back?

@RandomRobReviews 9 жыл бұрын

I would go Wilson, just wish it was not mid length.

@andredanciu8402 7 жыл бұрын

what about bergara barrels

@BulletSpoung 5 жыл бұрын

I understand that this is an old video but don't underestimate the added reliability of a pinned gas block vs a allen screw block. He is on top of everything between the two but the gas block is big. I thought this could help is you're looking for a barrel.

@rickmcewen3436 5 жыл бұрын

I think I'd underestimate the added reliability you speak of. I've never had a set screw gas block come loose or heard of a wave of gas blocks coming loose. There is also the clamp on style if you don't like set screws and dimples. I personally don't want a pinned gas block that limits me when adding the adjustable gas block of my choice. Also, they always seem to come with the gas block pinned in place. How does that make sense when you have to remove the gas block to put on the barrel nut anyway? Annoying.

@shawnsteinberger 9 жыл бұрын

I have the SPR contour WC and it shoots 1/2 MOA with 55 grain fiochi V Max bullets. I built a 6.8 in the ultralight/ hunter profile and it shoots SSA 95 gr Barnes tsx bullets less than half MOA. I choose WC.