Regarding the comment by Bart that a villain with an overpair couldn't wish for a better runout: you are entirely correct but likely overestimating a random villain. He's unlikely to be counting value combos and much more likely to simply think: "double paired board scary!"

I mostly just check in here to make sure I'm not hurting anyone's feelings with my donk plays so much they gotta ask Bart. Dodged another one. 👍

I agree that the jam on the river is the correct play. It targets over pair when we can be almost certain opponent never has a boat. Players of all sorts, all stakes, are likely calling you off. GG brother!

I used to play regularly at Commerce casino 15 years ago, and boy, is seems even the average poker players are soooo good now compared to back then.

I'm 100% on-board with all of Bart's comments - excellent analysis in every respect. 😍

My initial thought when the V bets flop is they could possibly have all the sets and overpairs and wants to charge 98, 78, diamonds, etc. Then as the hand goes on, as Bart said, the board pairing makes it less likely there are sets or now full houses available. On the River, I think it is a trivial fold for the V. It was a single raised pot that went 5 ways to the flop. The Hero has all of the suited connectors and just connected cards that hit this board hard. The only bluffs Hero can have on this board at the end might be 88 and diamonds. H doesn't have over pairs cause that would be played different pre, so what are you really left with?

Not sure if I'd lead flop here. If I checked I'd check-raise to 650 on the flop and (slight overbet) jam turn. That would look like a combo draw or pair plus draw.

4:37 “when you get money in here and people are folding, that’s not good…because you most likely had the best hand” I’d say that a fairly sound statement when holding the second nuts. 👍

hero can have a lot of 9x and 7x combo draws etc so don't know if it's a great runout for villain AA or overpair as you say, although it's not a terrible runout for villain

Looking forward to this one! Thanks bart keep it up 👍

Villain is pre flop raiser and it’s a single raise pot. Why can’t villain have T9 suited, J9 suited, Q9 suited, K9 suited, A9 suited? We never even considered possibility in a texas game

Bart you have always said that the bet on the river is the difference. If you call the turn you don't have to call a river bet, from your book.

Villain played Aces the way he did because people get shell shocked by pocket Ace’s lol. They tend to play it passively and fold to lots of aggression especially on the river

Why is check call a bad line here? Can anyone elaborate. We lose to any 9 any 7 any 8 10 any 66 chop with 8 5 all we beat is an overplay overpay or a complete bulff

All in on the river was perfect, what was the guy 2nd guessing?? If villian folds he folds, but no reason not to go for max value

Honestly if I had the aces i would have considered folding on the flop. NOBODY check raises light in live cash games. Its 2 pair plus 100 out 100 times. I like the donk lead on the flop in this case because it seems like the villain was in love with those aces.

AA Pushes All In on the River. Lol.. God I Love this Game.

98 makes perfect sense raise the flop top pair with open ended I don’t know about betting the turn but he Probably put him in 98 make sense

Ace 9 ace 7 8 10 even if he has it partially blocked it can still happen.. pocket 7s pocket 9s extremely unlikely but still possible

It seems to me that the problem with jamming is that you are only likely to get called by better. Bart says that this is a good run out for the villain. if he has pockets - maybe - but don’t forget hero has a lot more 9s and 7s in his range than the villain does. Is this a spot where a block bet might be best? $500 bet is more likely to get called and only likely to get jammed on by the nuts...

I don't like betting on the river, I don't see what hands will call a bet that don't have hero beat, do over pairs really call here that much?

Villain should have folded to the check raise sizing on the flop. Hero had 2 pair or better.

Had a similar hand just yesterday: I 3bet MP open with J10o on the button and flopped the nut flush on A K Q rainbow. I check/call the villains bet and turn brings a K. I check raise the villains turn bet and he calls and river brings an A. He checks, I check and he beats me with KJ for a double paired boat.

I think you played it perfectly sir.

poker is a beautiful game

What’s the rare play?

That raise pre in this game was a huge mistake with a straddle. If you are getting four callers with a 40 buck raise, you have to go to 80-100 at this table. Then against four other players with aces, I'm just giving up with that flop. Or, at least folding after the check raise on the flop!!

Ez turn shove with spr 1.3

"I consider myself a winning player" hmmm

Over pair can only call as a bluff catcher on the river. Jamming all in is not a bad idea but it's depend who are playing against. If he's a Nit he most likely will fold but against a loose aggressive player he might hero call with his overpair.

Lets be honest, how hard would it be from the vilain perspective to bet/fold on the flop and not call or raise the check raise and get sucked in. :) An overpair ir a flush draw could check raise that flop too 😅 Another note, how would we have played this if the player was a fish ?

C/r bigger and jam turn imo

What two pair hands on the flop don’t make a boat?

some people touched on this in the comments already, but im pretty curious as to what "i view myself as a winning player" means.

I agree with Bart but the turn sizing is what screws this hand up. So much more likely to call if you commit him more

No, you jam the river. Just cause he folded doesn't make it bad jam. They can't always call. It would be a lot easier to size your bets if you knew what they had, and how they would react to a jam.

you can get runner euner flush all the time. so these decisions are just a line, unless you are a fortune teller. if the other player is loose, i chen raise all the time. then they call flop and stuck.

Could you ever x/jam turn?

If you believe you are betting for value you should check raise all in. AA isn't calling most of the time here. It was too multi way. Someone had a 9 or 7. Only boats are calling any bet. So check to see if Villain will bluff. His line screamed over pair.

Fresh from Fresh and fit was the caller

What does he call with?

ITS TEXAS! IYKYK

I thought I understood your point about leading when the majority of the field is behind the initial raiser, but then you said this was a good time to lead out on the flop. Isn't it a good time to lead out on the flop when the initial raiser is last or maybe second to last to act?

I think jam on the turn is best move. Looks like a big draw that is committing. Awkward stack size.

I was thinking 1K for a turn bet, maybe go as low as $850 but I still think 1K or all in.

well done Caller

Shoving all in on the river. The only time I'm checking the river is if the villain limped in, instead of raising pre.

I love leading multi-way here. You really really don’t want it to check through. And you shld be leading small. $50.

You’re either a winning player or a losing player. Viewing yourself one way or the other doesn’t make it so.

The correct answer is bet super small on river. Like 300-500. Make sure you get paid by overpairs, and induce some spaz shoves from big diamonds.

The board is an onomatopoeia

Ok, how is this a good runout for AA? Sure diamonds missed but if you have AA, 50% chance you have the Ad anyway, so that's likely not the draw you were worried about. Just about any suited connector type hand (which are the most likely to beat AA to begin with) beats you. Maybe they didn't draw the hand they expected to draw, but they still drew one that beats one pair! If the double paired board is like J29J2 then sure, that's good for AA but I don't think this board is. Anyway in this hand, I am probably check raising or just open shoving turn, a single pair board isn't nearly as scary for a straight as a double pair board. And overpairs may call because many draws missed and you could be semi bluffing. River as is, I check fold, but expect to go to showdown and win at least sometimes.

I would always shove the river, that river is not scary at all, What could he have? A9? 910? 6s?

Also that’s why Villain gets for not raising AA preflop.

First mis step I think is he doesn’t shove turn

Jamming this river does not fit with a "considering myself a winning player" profile. It's a lose-lose situation (??). No worse hand will call, and no boat will fold! Looks more like a player scared to check/call V bluff, so rather jams to prevent that. It was not a value bet, nor a bluff, so what was it? An Action to prevent bluff!

4:40 you’re saying we don’t have fold equity but there are so many draws that I think we definitely want people to fold.

puts you on top 2 or top with d draw . when you check raise, or set turn, bet 35% build pot. dont check in case he has a flush draw. actuallyi i would be 800 to pust the flush darww off,

I hate the river jam ... What could possibly call 1400 with that board texture except a hand that beats you.... Its a losing bet on the river ... how is a double paired board good for Aces!!!! ???????!!!!!

i had s simlliar run out during ydays session a guy called me with top pair and boated up on me

A suited 2 gap call the open from the straddle. Then flop a straight, but the bottom end. A 10-8 suited open or call an open is a real possibility. I know I'm seeing monsters under the bed on this hand, but I wouldn't have played as aggressively on the flop as the hero. On the turn onwards yes when villain bets multiway. Betting pre-flop, then leading strong on flop and hesitating on check call signals either Oscar level acting or an over pair.

That 9 was a terrible card for the caller..... he could of easily had a 9 there..... pretty much any other card and aa is calling

Well, with pocket aces, he's hoping for an A A runout, to answer your question. Lmao

How about check evaluate on the river?

Jk

Bart don't ever call the Cobra the bottom of someone's range. The Cobra is the nuts always. 😂😂

I have friends telling me vegetarian burgers taste just as good as beef burgers 😂

I just wish the "villan" would have had 99 here, so our ("consider myself a winning player") hero, would have consider himself a great player calling with that premium hand preflop

Maybe he put him on 98

'Running double pairing cards are good for you when you have the 2nd nut straight' Tell me you have lifetime rungood without telling me you have lifetime rungood...

I’m surprised Bart prefers betting river vs x/call. V has more busted draws like Axdd than overpairs IMO. Besides, a random guy is probably not even calling an overpair OTR on this runout. Therefore, x to bluffcatch seems more +ev.

AA guys is low level, showing it to neighbor confirms fish 🐠 (look what I folded, I deserve an award 🥇 stupidity)

Bet fold < bet fold

All in is a mistake cause you will get a call by full house and fold by big pair. Blocker bet would be ideal. This is best format on KZfaq for poker, brilliant.

A winning rec who gets lost on every street and can't do math. C'mon Steve, who you kiddin? :) At least you know to bet the nuts.

I'm a punk I check call.

The only big mistake here imo is the turn sizing. Betting less on the turn than the river, what year is this? Lol If we bet even like 850 then he’s not folding the river for 1100 more into 4200 🤷🏻‍♂️

fold 84c grow up nit lol

He had pocket aces?? LOL. Figures, terrible players

... and uh... uh... I umm... dude get yourself together man!

What does “I play 4 times a week, I have a job, I don’t play poker for my income” have to do with this hand. Callers. Just get into the hand.

you can led off, 30%, because it averages out, if they have no draw, they useally dont call the gturen, if they have draws, you build the pot, but if the j of d comes, you can be shit out of luck.

you have to be a loose player to bet the turn with a combo draw. you got to hope he has 76 and bet 777, no over pair

8tj or d kills your hand

your hopeing for 67 but bet 800 for the call

1400 is enough to play next hand

bet 8000 river, he can have 76

or bet 777 lol

Spit it out bro

15:05 .. _why on earth would you ever x/c here?_ To induce worse hand to to Value bet, or to bluff!! Absolutely best play is x/c the river. . The worst play is to bet river here. (Take a look what happened, if you do not believe me: H shoved and forced pocket AA to run away with his money!!). So, H left at least $700 on the table. _Edit: betting is a lose-lose situation: No worse hand would call, any better hand will call_