A comparison of the two champion bolt action center fire rifles of the US firearms industry - with a little history; the Winchester Model 54 and Remington Model 30. www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr...
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@stanweed9545 Жыл бұрын
I just bought my first Model 70, in a 7mm caliber. Shot my first elk with it -- 175 grain bullet, 220 yards. He dropped after 3 steps. I will be 80 yrs old in three weeks. Thanks for confirming my choice of rifles with your video.
@kennethbailey26164 жыл бұрын
I’m always amazed by the craftsmanship of the old rifles. We stand on the shoulders of giants!
@ashmerch25584 жыл бұрын
You could not be anymore right then you are ! My grandfather hunted with a 1942 pre war model 70, my father with a pre-64 and myself with current production model 70.... but I do have alot of love for the older 700's, pre-2000ish and especially the Sako 75, along with too many others to list
@kingwolfgaming31823 жыл бұрын
Amen
@kennethbailey26163 жыл бұрын
I gave my oldest grandson my pre-64 M-70 in .243. My dad dad bought it from the feed store owner circa 1958-59 as I recall. It’s accounted for a lot of whitetails, muleys and antelope over the years.
@hughmellerick44172 жыл бұрын
People were actually MORE intelligent back then, hard as that may be to believe. They were far more objective, discerning, and as hardship was never very far from their doors, they had a huge eagerness to improve their World. You can hear it in their diction and vocabulary which was far superior to the average English speaker of today. People have been dumbed down. This is why in certain areas where scrutiny and innovation is more important than simply technological edge, a lot of older stuff REALLY was better made.
@dobypilgrim61605 жыл бұрын
Model 70. The Rifleman's rifle. I was proud to have worked for Winchester in my youth. Mainly because of that rifle and the Model 1894. But mainly the Model 70. Thanks for this video.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
Hi Doby! You're the first and only employee of the original and real deal that I've heard from! Thanks for writing.
@McDanielRanch2 жыл бұрын
Doby I got a question for you what is a 770 is there any difference at all? Other then the extra 7 ?
@blackpowder4016 Жыл бұрын
@@McDanielRanch - The Model 770 was a budget version of the push-feed Model 70, later called the Model 70A. No hinged floorplate, no ebony fore-end tip, and plain walnut stock - similar to the Remington 700 ADL. The Model 670 even more basic. Matte finish, polished (not jeweled) bolt with non-knurled bolt knob, and hardwood stock with impressed checkering. Sears' Ted Williams Model 53 rifles were essentially 770s.
@peanut30506 жыл бұрын
I have grown to love all of the old bolt actions military rifles both because of their designs and history- we are very lucky that the Mauser brothers came along. You are producing very good videos please keep it up-good job Thank you.
@seanbrando_74563 ай бұрын
I just zeroed an old model 70 for my uncle Larry.......he met a guy at the store, they got to talking and he got it for 700 dollars with 10 boxes of 30-06 and an old BSA scope and mounts. The old horse was on paper at 50 yards only 3 inches off center, and I shot a 1 inch 5 shot group resting on a shaky old camera tripod. It was in GREAT shape and man it was so sweet shooting, soft and accurate. With Hornady 150 grain soft point, mounting an old scope in rusty old rings, and it ate out the bulls eye the first time I shot it. I've been smitten ever since.......I'm a semi-auto guy who prefers the 7.62x51/308 - AR-10, but a nice Model 70 is IN MY FUTURE. It was just so nice......what a great old gun.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns3 ай бұрын
That's a gem. It's how the guns work that matters. Pretty is nice but secondary. I hope younger shooters realize they can be in the field and proudly so with guns such as yours. It's the doing that counts. Thanks for the great post. All the best.
@larryholowinski7136 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel and, in all sincerity - thank you for your presentations.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Larry, Glad your here and I appreciate your kind words.
@Tony-om5kr Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. The first rifle I bought was in 1972 at a local gun store in Ann Arbor during my college days. It was a pre-war Model 70 Winchester in 30-06 (barrel dated 1936) and I got it for the princely sum of $150. It was drilled for a side scope mount and I had the local gunsmith attach a Griffin and Howe quick detachable scope mount to the receiver. It'll group ~1.5 moa on a good day. I'm never letting that gem go. I hope that one of my sons will keep it when I pass on.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns Жыл бұрын
Hi Tony - High value rifle you have there - as you know. Great purchase and the G&H side mount is a classic - the only side mount I know of that does not decrease the value of the rifle. I'm sure your sons will appreciate that great rifle - likely already do - one of the few things worth owning. Also, hunters only leave the trails here to move to trails elsewhere, to be joined in time by family and friends IMHO Thanks for the note.
@Flight_Mike5 жыл бұрын
I recently went to Cabela's and traded a 1983 Rem 7400 in .30-06 with a 3-9x40 Redfield Widefield illuminator scope valued at $325 for a 1964 Winchester Model 70 in .300WM +$225. It wasn't shot much and is in 90% cond. My hat is off to Winchester for making such a fine rifle 56yrs ago and is still a tack driver today...
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
Great buy! I like the early post 64 Model 70s. Something about the pressed checkering is catchy. I especially like the early .458.
@frankatchison25194 жыл бұрын
You got ripped off in my opinion, you should have bought the rifle outright. You have the $. Wealthy people are the tightest, Something I could never understand. I bet he kick's himself for that (TRADE?)
@ULFISHGETTER2 жыл бұрын
@@frankatchison2519 if it wa sore 64 then it would’ve been a good deal
@sooner54845 жыл бұрын
Very good and would agree, the mod. 70 is manufactured in a different world entirely, different values and reflected in the workmanship. Thank you, cheers.
@Gunner-732 жыл бұрын
I went looking for a pre 64 Winchester yesterday at the Texas Gun Show. I found 1 model 70, but it was 2002 dated I think. Still a beautiful rifle. Theres just something appealing to 40 years of linseed oil hand rubbed into the walnut. I have a nickel steal, 1894 Win. 30WCF, made in 1907, that still shoots sub MOA. So That 54 is on my radar now. :)
@dwalker19993 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy your reviews on various rifles, and have been a big fan for many years. Keep up the excellent videos.
@richardbellam52 жыл бұрын
My brand new model 70 in 270 winchester has controlled feed and claw extracter and I love it! Great no nonsense trigger.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns2 жыл бұрын
About perfect rifle Richard - and I can't even figure out why I wrote "about" : )
@kennethbailey26164 жыл бұрын
You sure know your history of guns! So very interesting!
@jimtaylor36933 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the wisdom in rifles you have given to an old man. I've learnex so much from every video I watch.
@zh34014 жыл бұрын
Excellent long form production. All in one take, impressive. Most informative, thank you.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
Thank you ZH
@melvinarmstrong19165 жыл бұрын
I love my 700 in 30 06 fine shooting rifle
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
As good as it gets Melvin - in the real world it is about all one needs.
@TimD98046 жыл бұрын
Great videos! I recently found your channel and am very impressed with your knowledge and style. As soon as I finish this post, I will be hitting the subscribe button. I must say that most of my life I've been a Remington and Ruger fan. My safes contain multiples of 742, 760, 552, 572 and, of course, 700's along with tang safety Ruger M77 Rl and Rsi's. I'd never owned a Winchester, until about five years ago. I bought two FN M70 Featherweights, one a 7mm08 and one a 257 Rob, built in South Carolina. The build quality and workmanship on these two have unexpectedly made them the favorites in my collection. I could never praise them adequately or enough. In fact, the 7mm08 has replaced "Ole Reliable", the 742 my dad gave to me on my fifteenth Christmas (I'm 62), as my go to deer gun. I've had many people, more knowledgeable than me, comment that the South Carolina M70's are as good or maybe better than even their pre'64's.
@kenworthNH3 жыл бұрын
Winchester is hitting it out of the park with their new rifles. They seem to be capitalizing on Remington's "mis-fortunes" as of late. BUT- I have a 1967 700 BDL that is just butter. Such a great rifle. The OLD Remingtons were really nice. I can't pick a favorite. I like admiring and fondling my model 70 lol, but that old Remington just shoots so well.
@mqa19636 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing . I really enjoy your vids. Merry Christmas .
@christopherkingsland4604 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you that the M70 Alaskan is an absolutely superlative rifle. Mine is in 300 WM as well !! I think that once you're introduced to the pre-64 M70s and the new CRF ones, there is no turning back.
@stephenlopez14324 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation on the history of these rifles. I will be getting the model 70. I love the recoil lugs on the 70's, they just seem so solid and will absorb recoil more efficiently. Thanks again and I look forward to your other videos.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
Glad you are getting a Model 70 - it is a complete rifle in every way - wanting for nothing - as you know.
@MRDAN-wv3om6 жыл бұрын
I found your channel a few weeks ago and I really like your reviews very helpful. Thanks so much. Merry Xmas
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year - glad you found the channel.
@6h4714 жыл бұрын
I've owned 2 push feed Winchesters, a model 670 in .243 and a model 70 in 30.06. Not as desirable as a controlled feed model 70, but they were both good rifles and accurate. The 670 was a bargain, and I've often wished I hadn't sold mine.
@jamiegubrud78964 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. I learned some things here. I have a module 70 and 2 700’s. I’ve shot lots of whitetails with them. They are both great rifles!! Thanks!!!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jamie! I'm so glad! Well done on buying the Model 70 and the 2 700s and congratulations on the hunting success. My freezer is out of venison and it is pretty bleak buying the feedlot meat. Nothing quite like venison. All the best.
@jvince81072 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge on this subject. I’m immediately a fan.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! Thank you for your support!
@LeftThumbBreak6 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the video. I'm in search for a pre 64 model 70 Target and hearing about the pre 64, pre war and post 64 is really helpful and interesting.
@marcogram12166 жыл бұрын
There's a CMP model 70 target on Gunbroker right now. It's just the barreled action though. It is in very good condition with lots of detailed photos.
@RickNethery6 жыл бұрын
USOG, Sir I have thoroughly enjoyed watching this video. These are the rifles I study the most. I love them. Its so nice to see them all together. I have always felt that the Model 70, and the 1903 Springfield were too similar to just be a coincidence. I am a huge fan of these rifles, and of Your excellent Channel. I hope You and Your Family have a Merry Christmas.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
So many meanings in these guns. Have a wonderful Christmas!
@RickNethery6 жыл бұрын
USOG Yesterday evening I made a short video with an old Mossberg 42B that a friend gave Me for Christmas that He picked up at a gun show. I think You will find this rifle intresting, as some unknown previous owner did some very creative art work with the stock. I recall that in one of Your previous videos that You said that You enjoy looking at firearms like this.
@mikelalande45613 жыл бұрын
good video. Keep up the good work. I love the old rifles. Like fine furniture it’s sad they don’t build like that anymore
@marcogram12166 жыл бұрын
The target rifles with open sights for matches are really nice on both models.
@uralbob14 жыл бұрын
I can remember the day I brought home the Model 70 in .300 Win Mag. I felt as if I had bought the Corvette of rifles! Tons of power, beautiful, and slick as any rifle anywhere! Well, maybe not as slick as my NOS Canadian .303 Enfield!
@robertshinenne15846 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas !!! Thanks for the educative video :D
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Robert and you as well; health, happiness, family and all good things.
@jrdixon516 жыл бұрын
very good video, very informative. i really liked the one on the model 100 win and the model 88 great stuff
@bigclyde63514 жыл бұрын
As a fellow gun lover I enjoy your informative tutorials
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you BC
@GeorgiaBoy19614 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a well-done presentation. I have read great things about Sako and Tikka, from a variety of reputable sources. The brand is now owned by Beretta - but Sako has been making fine hunting rifles for a very long time. Their older designs are particularly prized. They do not surpass the best Winchesters, but are supposed to be comparable to them. CZ, the Czech firm, also makes an excellent rifle - and they offer tremendous value for the money spent.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
Fine words - they really are excellent.
@rangerdanger7666 ай бұрын
tika and cz, the new remington and winchester
@Cravin009 Жыл бұрын
Incredible discussion thanks so much for your work it’s much appreciated.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ivarara6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for excellent videos and discussion on rifles.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ivar!
@DMX-PAT5 жыл бұрын
That brochure is amazing, you need scan and upload it. That's a piece of heritage right there!!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
Good idea - I'll find out how to do that. Thank you!
@leeadams59413 жыл бұрын
I always thought the Winchester 70 was far superior to the Remington 700. However the older BDLs and ADLs were nice guns. Having said that I suppose I have to say the later Remington's were the product of bean counters and people that were more interested in making a large profit than producing quality rifles. Hence their state today.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lee - You're right on all counts.
@jimburkitt816529 күн бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I agree. I've owned 3 M700s, 1 used & 2 new. One shot well, but had problems. The other 2 had problems & didn't shoot either. I finally wised up & didn't buy any more. I know a few experienced riflemen who won't have one. My opinion is the M70 is an excellent rifle while the M700 is junk.
@NorthEastSaskFarmer6 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Thanks for mentioning me. It’s pretty surreal hearing ones name on a quality video.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
My privilege Brayden. Merry Christmas!
@Me2Lancer4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I suppose one could make the assumption that this presentation on the Winchester Model 70 and Remington Model 700 with their predecessors represents the foundations of modern bolt action rifles. This is a comprehensive and balanced treatment of both classic rifles.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rich - I probably forgot a few things....but tried : )
@michaelashby40362 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Over
@MrGuitars83 жыл бұрын
I learned alot from this , Both are Fantastic Rifles !!!!!
@mikemoore97576 жыл бұрын
All 3 brands are excellent, but the 700 Remington has an almost silent safety. This may sound trivial until you have a target very close to you. You also mentioned the Rem 721's, and 722's. I think they are sleepers and may be the collectibles of the future. They still have good value. The 725's are already almost untouchable.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike - 100% - and I also see the value of 721's and 722's going up. Their clean lines and simplicity are desired. I noticed the early Remington 870s with no pressed checkering and no checkering at all keep going up.
@jasonsimone35235 жыл бұрын
I agree!!!!
@alankillian4962 Жыл бұрын
I still have my late fathers Rem. 725 chambered in .280 Remington. Great firearm.
@nhwnhw027 ай бұрын
Back in the early 1980's twice I saw brand new Remington 700s go off without the trigger being pulled. One was a lady who was next to me at the range. She had put in a round and as she closed the bolt the rifle fired. I was looking right at her when it happened. The rifle was just purchased and had a scope mounted and bore sighted. The second was a few weeks later. A Yong man had adjusted a front bag. The moment he pushed off the safety, the rifle fired. Remington spent years denying they had a problem until they lost a class action lawsuit. I have owned 3 model 70s over the years. Never heard the safety make any noise. Always respected the model 70 safety for completely capturing the firing pin verses just blocking the trigger from moving. Your mileage may vary...
@pawcrawlowens87305 жыл бұрын
Glad I found your channel!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paw
@rainbow2710 Жыл бұрын
I’m getting to like and enjoy tour channel more and more. This is an excellent presentation. A model 70 and a 1903 are two rifles I really miss from my collection. Greetings from Malta 🇲🇹❤️
@UnitedStatesOfGuns Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jon - hope you get them again. Malta - stunning and historic place to live - thanks for the note and take care.
@pseudopetrus6 жыл бұрын
I went with the model 70 (FN made) for many of the reasons you spoke of. I handled and shot model 700 series rifles and they did not have the fit and finish of the M 70. That said, I have handled a few older model 700 classics and they are beautiful. Remington did up the the quality on those and they are well worth the extra money. I also have to say that for the most part, I have friends who have cheaper versions of the model 700 series and they function well as a hunting rifle. So it is really about personal choice and budget. Thank you for this great video, I think the most important thing is that what ever gun you have, enjoy it, practice lots and get out into the great outdoors with it.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Wise words from someone who knows. "enjoy it, practice lots, and get out into the great outdoors with it." You should write a book one day.
@pseudopetrus6 жыл бұрын
You should write the book, I took note on the barrel made with nickel steel, it looks great for it's age. That is a subject that deserves more attention. Thanks so much!
@robertboreman76723 жыл бұрын
I have a model 700 BDL from 1993. You know you have a rifle in your hands.
@rickbattle57066 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video. Merry Christmas!!! 🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, my steadfast friend and supporter. Have a wonderful Christmas full of peace and joy. And thank you for being here and always writing.
@russellmiller2123 жыл бұрын
Had hands on a ‘54 .....will purchase the next one if it is in the same condition. Fantastic modification of the K98.
@clintdueck18683 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, thanks.
@davidshelow53343 жыл бұрын
Very informative presentation, thanks.
@magicdaveable5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting history. Thanks.
@andrewbobro33742 жыл бұрын
Good video. Learned a few things!
@dinoquintana43192 жыл бұрын
My 1st bolt rifle was a model 700adl in rems big 7mm magnum.an excellent rifle and cartridge.. currently a 70 in 3006 a better rifle and cartridge.thanks for posting such great informative videos.you really know your business
@jimalexander18964 жыл бұрын
I love the bolt action rifles very much..I still have Winchester model 70 and Remington 700 ..plus Ruger 77 all very nice rifles thanks!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
Ace, King Queen - only you know the order : )
@mikecubes16425 жыл бұрын
you get what you pay for great video the model 70 is still my favorite
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
That's the right favorite!
@tonyricketts55693 жыл бұрын
A left handed model 700! Very nice, I have always wanted one. My Ruger 77 mk II left hand scratched the itch.
@jasonkoestner46306 жыл бұрын
Love the videos I have a sporterized 98 Mauser Argentine 1909 blonde stock leaded weighted reciol pad scope Bushnell 3-9 stock done with 25 coats of true oil 24inch Santa Barbara 3star barrel
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a very nice rig - with so many coats, the finish must be like glass.
@jbeastist6 жыл бұрын
have model 54 made in 1930 ,20' barrel still in use for hunting very accurate and barrel is still like new
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
A gem.
@jeffmorrow19573 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed this video
@markphillips945411 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you.
@stevedouglas54433 жыл бұрын
I had a post 64 m70. My only complaint was it was picky about ammo and accuracy. With the right load it shot fine.
@Canada-gs3jc6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas
@TexanUSMC80894 жыл бұрын
Most bolt action rifles can be sub moa accurate and reliable. I have rifles made by most popular companies, especially savage, but...There is no rifle ever made that's better than the winchester model 70 pre 64, or the new model 70's made by FN. The huge recoil lug that's actually part of the receiver, the control round feed, and the reliable 3 position safety, are second to none. Of course, that's just my opinion.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
That's a great opinion Texan. Few would disagree with you.
@georgeflutey8382 жыл бұрын
very informative video, seems remington wanted to make rifle cheaper, and did. Gotta love the model 70
@michaelharrity97953 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot from this
@bigskyguyatjuno4 жыл бұрын
My mom bought me my first 700 ADL in 30.06 52 years ago. Killed my first deer with it, and many many animals from MT, AK, Canada, CO, FLA, moose elk, antelope... does the job every time. I've had many other rifles but this is my go to and have sold most of the others. Great rifle and .5 MOA loading 165 gr speer boat tails with IMR 4350 powder. Good review. I also once owned a Model 70 300 win mag.. Another great rifle/ tack driver.
@minnesotasalamander59134 жыл бұрын
Thanks, good breakdown.
@bearbait22215 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the side buy side and history
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Mike!
@ReyaadGafur3 жыл бұрын
My dad has a 700 for hunting, and its a nice gun. Fits like a glove.
@TheSalinski3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a comparison of the safety mechanisms.
@earlyetman55883 жыл бұрын
You would surely like to meet Mike Turner of Cloudcroft, New Mexico! His handmade titanium bolt, carbon fiber stock firearms are something to behold!
@kevinrollman31014 жыл бұрын
I always thought a Remington to be the more refined rifle! In accuracy, fit and function! Just better put together overall!! The rifling in Remington 700 are better for long range shots!
@Gideom0073 жыл бұрын
Not a chance
@earlyetman55883 жыл бұрын
@@Gideom007 Not a chance you are close to correct. You really need to read and do your homework.
@robsmith2291 Жыл бұрын
"The Remington 700 is the best-selling big game rifle in the world, and it was for damm sure the Hawkins rifle of the 20th century." - Richard Mann
@F84Thunderjet2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised you didn’t mention the Remington 721 that was the predecessor of the Remington 700. It was an excellent and accurate rifle.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns2 жыл бұрын
The 721 is great - sorry I forgot to mention - I only have one left but it is a great one: a 721 Deluxe in .257 Roberts - I'll make a video
@F84Thunderjet2 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you. I look forward to the video.
@josecanisales34915 жыл бұрын
Hi USOG, Very good video, always learn something. What did Rudy say about triggers? Thanks
@ViaAvione2 жыл бұрын
Good Info! Thank you for sharing
@scottscheuerman871410 ай бұрын
One of the best changes from the model 54 to the model 70 was that Winchester found that if they moved the screws into the bottom behind the the recoil lug instead of in the recoil lug it aided into the rifle being more accurate
@BloodiedYetUnbowed5 жыл бұрын
USOG You remarked that you're surprised that the other modern bolt actions sell as well as they do. I looked through your videos and I don't see a review of the Browning X-bolt or the Ruger M77 Hawkeye. I would like to see reviews of these rifles. I'm curious about your opinions of both of these.
@GeorgiaBoy19614 жыл бұрын
It would be good to see a review of the Savage 110, which recently became the longest continuously-produced American mass-produced bolt-action rifle, passing both Winchester and Remington. The 110 was designed in 1958 and patented in 1963.
@mcgiver94744 жыл бұрын
i really like the Rem. model 30! but how can one not like the Win.+ Mauser. i life them all!!!
@jonlembo5605 Жыл бұрын
excellent job.. you are top notch :)
@rickybristersmusic3658 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I have a model 70 ultimate shadow. Are you familiar with it? I read that it has the pre 64 action. It is definitely a CF action. Your vids are very informative. Thanks so much for sharing
@jmgates092 күн бұрын
I think when the shadows come out it was the cf/push feed bolt a hybrid of both
@reb10508 ай бұрын
Back in 83, I wanted to get rid of my 7mm magnum and get a 30-06. The 7mm was just a bit much for whitetail deer (IMO) I went to a firearms dealer and they had 3 different bolt action 30-06's. A Weatherby Vanguard, Remington 700, and a Wenchester Model 70 in a featherweight. All fine rifles, I am sure. Also, up until that day, every rifle I had previously purchased were all Remingtons. The forearm of the Vanguard was just too thick for my liking. The Remington felt great, but when I threw it up to take aim, the sights were not quite in alignment to me. The Winchester felt great. The sight alignment was perfect without moving my head at all, and the lighter weight was also nice. I took the cellophane wrap off a pack of cigarettes and wrapped it around the barrel and slid it down. On the Remington, it would not slide all the way down to the receiver like it did on the Winchester's free floating barrel. I bought the Winchester and still using it today. Very accurate and dependable.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns8 ай бұрын
Great choice, great rifle. The Model 70 - new or pre-64, remains a superb rifle - and that includes the push feed models. I have an XTR that is as accurate as any rifle I own - it has iron sights - and it handles like a dream; just as your '06. Thanks for writing.
@jeffreyhall21363 жыл бұрын
Back in 1997 or 96 I bought a Model 70 in .270 LH. I sold it about 5 years ago. I kick myself in the butt everytime I read an article about them.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns3 жыл бұрын
Uh oh. That makes two of us for selling. Many boot marks on my pants.
@aaronbuckmaster70634 жыл бұрын
The 700 is a very strong action and performs well. That said the model 54 through the final evolution of the model 70 are my favorite rifles. My only gripe is Winchester’s departure from the near perfect trigger assembly of the model 70. That was a mistake in my view. I am amazed to this day how we can put together so many moving and fixed parts, and obtain such repeatable accuracy. The modern rifle action I have a high opinion of is CZ’s 550 safari action. If I build another hot rod, I will use that action.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
Great comment. The Model 70 had it all. Your 550 build is going to be something!
@timbucker4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing, but I believe Winchester paid attention to what was happening with Remington lawsuit and changed the trigger for liability reasons, as it's harder to modify now.
@collinlanphear84173 жыл бұрын
I have 1969 700 in 30.06 Springfield,22 inch barrel love it
@UnitedStatesOfGuns3 жыл бұрын
Perfect vintage!
@SierraYankee75 жыл бұрын
could you do a tear down of the mauser m12 and the m18? I like your thorough explanations.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns5 жыл бұрын
For sure - as soon as I get my hands on these models. Thanks for suggesting.
@isidorebranham53272 жыл бұрын
Thank You, CNBC had a backstory linked to your episode regarding the dangers of that Remington firing accidentally and killing children and spouses.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@UnitedStatesOfGuns2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know Isidore - I had no idea.
@johntrotter78892 жыл бұрын
I've bought a new Model 70 back in the 90's? in 300 Win Mag with the BOSS system. What are your thoughts on the BOSS System?
@wasachevyguy3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video of the quality of CZ rifles like the 550.
@demetriuscooksey71473 жыл бұрын
I worked in a Gunsmith shop for 9 years and I will tell you, we had to work on 50 Remington 700s to one Winchester model 70. Lots and lots of failures with the firing pin, safety, trigger, and extractor with the 700.
@_DB.COOPER2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I own a shop and it’s just the opposite here, it’s probably 70 winchesters we work on to every 1 Remington.
@jimburkitt81652 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@MartyInLa3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very informative video. Thank you also for not feeling the need to sport facial hair, wear camo, a sidearm, and a tactical folder when doing gun reviews.
@collinlanphear8417 Жыл бұрын
I have a late 60/early 70.700,love it
@UnitedStatesOfGuns Жыл бұрын
Fine rifles!
@samhollan4570 Жыл бұрын
Get the trigger replaced the Remington 700 will DISCHARGE if TAKEN OFF SAFETY it has happened to multiple people i know REMINGTON COVERED IT UP! This applies to the Remington 700/715/710/770/783
@jayl97443 жыл бұрын
Do you prefer the bolts on the older Winchester 70 or the newer ones.
@storminthewoods3 жыл бұрын
It's got a ivory front sight the safe lock n unsafe position just like the couple in the beginning any info u can share
@thebiddler1006 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@frogmanjack87905 жыл бұрын
Some of treats of the model 54 carried over to the model 70 , when did they change the safety Style. Of the gun did it have 3 position safety back then
@danielboggan24794 жыл бұрын
The original model 70 had a flag safety until 1949, and then kept the same safety until 1964 when they changed it again, and kept that safety until ~2008. They went back to the pre 64 safety then
@michaelhull63 Жыл бұрын
I have both and love both
@UnitedStatesOfGuns Жыл бұрын
Good on you Michael - both superb
@joshmccollum83926 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and thank you so much for your excellent videos sharing your knowledge and superb collection! The only comment I would make in minor disagreement is that I think the current Montana Rifle Company offerings are in my opinion the better made production rifles than the current made Model 70’s. They maintain the simple trigger design of the original Model 70s.
@marcogram12166 жыл бұрын
Yes! I'm a little different than most shooters today. I've been looking for a rifle lately just for target shooting and came across those. Wow, really nice with all of the best features of both rifles.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh! You made my day. I had no idea they offer the original trigger. I'll be sure to mention this on a later video and credit your first name for letting me know. That trigger is as good as it gets in the real world. Thank you so much and Merry Christmas.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns6 жыл бұрын
That's great!
@angelaprater26794 жыл бұрын
John here own both like the winchester 1 reason was the design of the stock more in line for shoulder less recoil had a friend own a 7mm Rem kick so hard I only shot it 3 times 1978 got new shot accurate but Nick name mule.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns4 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean - they kick. The straight stock you mention makes a big difference.
@KillerKolt443 жыл бұрын
How does a savage axis in Boyd's walnut stock compare to all these rifles. Mostly how does it compare to Remington 700