Windows 98 on 98 Megabytes! - 98lite Overview & Installation

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Is it possible to install Windows 98 on 98 megabytes of hard drive space? It is, thanks to 98lite! Originally released in the late '90s, it allows you to minimize your Windows installation by getting rid of components that Microsoft doesn't let you remove.
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@bigloudnoise 2 жыл бұрын

If I recall correctly, an early version of 98lite was used as evidence during the Microsoft antitrust case to prove that Windows 98 could indeed run without Internet Explorer, despite Microsoft claiming that it was impossible.

@rustymixer2886 Жыл бұрын

💥

@gooberboy69420 3 ай бұрын

i think true

@dudeshift0 2 жыл бұрын

Embedded Windows 98 can get down to 9MB (offered on the same site as Lite98). Could have been useful for embedded industrial pcs like the pc104 standard.

@funwithmatteo3769 2 жыл бұрын

“Windows 9x on 9 Megabytes! - Embedded Windows 98 Overview & Installation”

@BadContentCreator193 2 жыл бұрын

Wow!

@Um_y8ki 2 жыл бұрын

So can it run quake 3 arena with 60fps on $5 pc?

@nolemretaw 2 жыл бұрын

@@Um_y8ki prob not, as embeded systems especially from 90s tend to cut out required libs when on most light config as possible (basically on 9 mb)

@rednovatech 2 жыл бұрын

@That guy with the brain. I remember working on controller PCs for older 6 axis machines that are still in use that I determined was running some flavor or 9x instead of NT. Heavily cut back not sure if it was this guys stuff or not. Had to just image the drive as backup and pray as nothing really worked except for the included application to control the machine.

@DavidWonn 2 жыл бұрын

Conceptually 98lite (and especially 98micro) was wonderful at least in theory. In practice, I found it to be a bit glitchy, so I stayed on Windows 95 and NT4 longer than most people at the time. This way, I could be truly free of any of IE's modifications to the shell.

@brianhogg5148 2 жыл бұрын

I've used it and found it to be fantastic 👍

@NoahClevinger 2 жыл бұрын

Windows 98 is the embodiment of nostalgia for me. I remember spending hours and hours on my family’s old Windows 98 computer back in the day.

@chevysparkgaming 2 жыл бұрын

Windows 7 is better

@firstlast9500 2 жыл бұрын

@@chevysparkgaming I... Don't think they are competing.

@chevysparkgaming 2 жыл бұрын

@@firstlast9500 Windows 7 is better nonetheless

@fsdfgasgfisd 2 жыл бұрын

@@chevysparkgaming 😂

@XR_TheOneAndOnly 2 жыл бұрын

@@chevysparkgaming no shit a system from 2009 is better than one from 1998

@KevVideos06 2 жыл бұрын

Pov: you're looking though comments before the video's finished

@SupaPhly0 2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to imagine Shawn's reaction on seeing someone buy his software he stopped working on almost 20 years ago

@BilisNegra 2 жыл бұрын

oops, I've just written the same, did not see this comment.

@therealjammit 2 жыл бұрын

I ran Win98micro for the longest time. I also installed it to an Iomega ZIP drive. I made a special boot floppy that would recognize the ZIP drive from DOS and boot Win98micro from it. I used it to scan customer machines for viruses. Edit: 250 meg ZIP drive was used.

@arrowstormproductions 2 жыл бұрын

Always going to love Windows 98!

@thekornreeper 2 жыл бұрын

Especially 98 SE

@MattExzy 2 жыл бұрын

Times like now I wish I still had my DX4 486 100MHz I had as a teenager in 2000 as my fastest computer running 98. Handled the 'net relatively well. Met my first girlfriend using mIRC (a seemingly impossible feat in hindsight). I remember using the Opera browser on it because it had tabbed browsing. I don't miss trying to get USB cards to work on it, or getting the Sound Blaster card to play nice at times, but it was just right given the circumstances.

@Random_PersonOfficial Жыл бұрын

same pfp! but saturated

@andresbravo2003 2 жыл бұрын

This is one of my favorites. It could save Storage Space to fill more programs.

@JoaquinPro64 2 жыл бұрын

Now try to use the unofficial service pack 3 on 98lite, i remember there was an option for 98lite users only

@johnnycha 2 жыл бұрын

This video is interesting to watch, it’s nice to see the $5 Windows 98 PC back! Also, on the subject of 98lite, I’ve also heard that this tool is also really useful for older Pentium PCs without MMX and prior, according to a video that The Nostalgia Mall posted in relation to this piece of utility (I even watched that video as well, really great video). The replacement of the Windows Desktop Update explorer with 95’s one can speed up the operating system on pre-MMX systems to an extent. Aside from that, this tool also helps those that have less disk space available or had a low-capacity hard drive for use with Windows 98. Pretty interesting stuff!

@Xenotypal 2 жыл бұрын

good to see you back on the 98 pc! you're my favorite tech youtuber, and have got me inspired to find my own 98 pc but I'm having an unbelievably hard time finding one locally. unfortunately, my local goodwill says they have a contract with dell and send all they computers they get to them. so frustrating because all the ones i've found online seem overpriced to me, being sold as "vintage" and such. if anyone has a particularly good deal on a working system, let me know! i'm talking like yard sale price range because I don't exactly have a ton of cash.

@anon_y_mousse 2 жыл бұрын

I can imagine that he probably still sells that program for all the YT retro channels. There's got to be at least 50 dozen of them now and they're multiplying. I love that the final size was 98.1mb, that's awesome. Could possibly fit Win98 on a 100mb zip disk if you could trim a bit more, or did they tell the truth about the size of zip disks back then unlike with hard drive sizes? For that matter, could you boot from a zip disk? That would be extra awesome. A real recovery boot disk for older Windows computers.

@paulveitch 2 жыл бұрын

You could boot from zip disks, but you needed the SCSI version and a SCSI controller with bootable firmware

@anon_y_mousse 2 жыл бұрын

@@paulveitch That would be so cool. I hope he does this.

@talibong9518 2 жыл бұрын

Better off with a 120MB super floppy

@nickwallette6201 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if there was a swap file? haha That could easily have been 1/3 to 1/2 the size.

@redherogaming 2 жыл бұрын

Great video MJD! 👍

@tqrules01 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the vid mate. Made my day. 98 was alright to me. But for sure a corporate setting back in the day would have loved this.

@Rossco1337 2 жыл бұрын

love software like this. i installed tinyxp and tiny7 on loads of pcs years ago. netbook is currently running win10 ghost spectre which is a full version of win10 in under 5gb. don't know why microsoft doesn't release official cut down versions when there has been demand for it for decades.

@sliverx7313 Жыл бұрын

I remember using this for my first 486 DX4 100MHz machine and the CeleronA 333MHz machine I got afterwards: It made a *huge* difference on hardware that slow, particularly for games and emulators. I still do similar things to my Windows installs (Using utilities like nLite and NTLite), and they all gave me a very deep understanding of how Windows works at a fundamental level, which has served my IT career immeasurably.

@rustymixer2886 Жыл бұрын

Did that PC play vcd mpeg1 good

@TheXarus Жыл бұрын

It's a shame you have to use Windows at all :(

@blainepalmerza 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, Michael !

@SenileOtaku 2 жыл бұрын

I still have my license for 98lite (probably bought it in 1999). Tried it out recently on my ThinkPad T23 (I wanted to do a couple of videos on the multimedia software I worked on in the late 90's). I built an image with the unofficial "Third Edition" fixpacks. The thing I haven't gotten working is a SD card setup to replace the HDD (to make it easier to copy files and/or images to the system).

@MikeFromDownUnder 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating stuff, thanks for sharing! I remember using XPLite... those were the days!

@colddogs 2 жыл бұрын

great video - happy friday ✌🏼

@Smacketeer 2 жыл бұрын

I had a good laugh at 8:20 with you telling the setup to shut up at the "not found" text. Reminded me of myself. 🤣

@Gui2226 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael. I actually installed the famous Win98 lite on Wii rebranded as Windows 98 and actually seeing that, the system seemed just like a broken Windows98 with access only to Safe mode. I say that because I actually also managed to install Windows 95 on Wii and everything worked just fine. You can use mouse pointer fine lowering pointer sensitivity, I could play Solitaire better than expected. You actually can use improve graphics performance and quality by choosing the proper graphics on Windows video properties in control panel, just choose Trio video driver you're able to set color quality to 256 colors on 640x480. Any greater color and resolution will work also but you ca't play on Wii, only on PC. You can actually see any screensavers on 256 colors but Pipes and Labirinth3D won't show on Wii, only on 16 colors. I could make an entire drawing on Paint on Wii, it's just good, as any Windows application. To make MS DOS not to crash 16 color set is necessary, it works fine in window or full screen mode. DOS text capture is pretty much delayed and you have to type letters individually and press enter on Wii virtual keyboard. DOS Box can handle Windows 95 using between 32 and 34Mb.

@Liam_Tomhet Жыл бұрын

Funny this comment is only 10 days old. Ive been currently messing around with the same set up. I also had trouble booting up 98lite regularly and only in safe mode. Idk exactly what i did to eventually getting it to boot normally. Seems hit or miss. But i started messing around with boot settings When booting up and if it gives you boot options. (Option 4.) Step by step confirmation. Its trial and error. But as long as you boot with all drivers. It won't be safe mode. Something with low memory or the graphics driver that makes it blue screen normally. " Stated in one of his Michaels videos the dos box ctrl f12 key bind accelerates the emulation." Though i can't tell if it works for me or its disabled. I do try this when booting up and it seems to help boot normally. It seems like win98 lite for the wii is just a novelty without the ability to do anything. Usb drivers are loading but i am unable to mount and storage media device. And the cd rom drive is unable to load any CDs. No matter what i have done.

@NightimeDemon Жыл бұрын

I remember trying to get my Wii to use Windows 3.1 when I was using Tantric's port of DosBox, to see if I could have a shot of running Space Cadet on it long before the reverse engineered version got a port to the Wii. I had no success with Win 3, but the console is surprisingly competent with playing DOS games. A USB keyboard is a must, plus I recommend changing the core in the dosbox.conf to simple. I liked playing Wasteland on my Wii, plus Epic Pinball.

@GenericVideoGameNPC 2 жыл бұрын

finally, an Operating System that can run on my computer

@HouseOfFunQM 2 жыл бұрын

This kind of stuff is actually pretty infuriating - I remember 90s Microsoft constantly saying that they had embedded mshtml / iexplore into Windows so much that it was impossible to remove. Turns out, even the community was able to remove it! So many crashes. So many.

@HouseOfFunQM 2 жыл бұрын

@@icemanemalik Haha at least Edge isn't like part of the UI rendering itself! That would be ridiculous. Though the way Microsoft are just loving turning everything into Electron now, I would not be surprised if they replace Windows Explorer with some JavaScript based shit ASAP

@GoogleDoesEvil 2 жыл бұрын

@@icemanemalik That explorer was a placeholder copied from Windows 10 Mobile (Windows Phone.) It can also be opened on an Xbox in certain apps.

@Gravarty 2 жыл бұрын

@@HouseOfFunQM It is actually in Windows 11. It's used for the taskbar and for the new Windows Explorer toolbar. Tbf it's not the browser itself, but something called "Edge Runtime/WebView2", a stripped down version of Edge which is something like Electron. In the leaked version of Windows 11, you could also access the Edge keyboard navigation panel by pressing F7.

@nickwallette6201 2 жыл бұрын

I never knew for sure if they really meant Internet Explorer, or just its rendering engine, MSHTML. The HTML runtime _was_ embedded deeply into Windows. The shell used it for the folder view windows, Outlook Express needed it for displaying emails, Active Desktop, and so on. They used it as a dynamic content viewer anywhere they could, and having that functionality as part of the base OS made it possible for other applications to safely assume it was available as well. The "browser" was really just a front-end to that doc viewer, with some navigation controls and the like, so it didn't make any sense at all to uninstall Internet Explorer, when you were pretty much just deleting an icon at that point. (OK, a little more than that, but not much.)

@michealpersicko9531 Жыл бұрын

@@HouseOfFunQM Edge is a joke now they completely killed of their main selling point of being less bloated than chrome because they have added so much shit to it to the point where it's now more bloated than chrome.

@KajuTheRudeMonke 2 жыл бұрын

4:28 Installation status: *109%* Now that's what I call "efficiency"

@brianb6653 2 жыл бұрын

Fun. I actually have my original CD for 98 lite. And I also think I have one for 2000/XP

@toxicZIM908 2 жыл бұрын

This video came out when I was either still in another state, or when I was on an airplane. Neat!

@benn669 2 жыл бұрын

I might look into this for my retro gaming pc. I don't want to reinstall but it is looking clean.

@07whaleboy 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, cool! Will try this soon!

@Miratried 2 жыл бұрын

Damn new upload

@zachfenton608 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video

@michaelstechnology 2 жыл бұрын

a new mjd video, time to bust out the cookies

@BrianMartin2007 2 жыл бұрын

Damn dude, it is about time that someone did a video on this app. It works for WinME also. Andd nLite was for Windows XP, and 7Lite... You can get Windows 7 to run on 128MB of Ram for example.... JUST NUTS! Thank you Bro! I use this app a lot back in the day... lol

@Headshotnoby 2 жыл бұрын

8:20 i love these zoom ins to eddy reliable trustman lmao

@zafilerusse 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video!

@bagoly.brick.studio 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! This Windows 98 version could save storage space and memory space to run and install more programs.

@koopatroopa6882 Жыл бұрын

The "Hello everybody and welcome back to another video! Now in today's episode, we are going to" never gets old!

@philtkaswahl2124 2 жыл бұрын

Ironically change the "I" in "IEradicator" to lowercase, and now it sounds like something you'd use to allow easier installation of open source OSes on an Apple Silicon iMac.

@techshowyt 2 жыл бұрын

12:41 I disagree, Ms Paint is missing. Unacceptable.

@austJW 2 жыл бұрын

I remember 98Lite - I bought the app when 98 came out. I also got XPlite - blast from the past!

@DarkusObscurius Жыл бұрын

Awesome, this is very useful to use W98 on MISTER FPGA!

@ikbintom 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, really impressive how slim it got

@txe1nd 2 жыл бұрын

true

@stephenroberts7554 Жыл бұрын

That gateway computer looks like the first computer I ever bought those were the days 😎

@ryderf90 2 жыл бұрын

Windows 95 users: finaly I can upgrade

@romeu_ 2 жыл бұрын

That's unexpectedly cool

@zenails4415 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael MJD! I really love your videos and i think it would be really interesting to take a look at SerenityOS. SerenityOS is a 90s stylish operating system made by Andreas Kling. It has some really cool programs like a browser, some games, demos, etc.. It got a windows style and some themes. I would really appreciate if you turn this idea into a video!!

@systemchris 2 жыл бұрын

Great for installing 98 on a thin client with one of those industrial storage cards... Or back in the day installing 98se on a hand me down 486/P1 pc

@bad4brain 11 ай бұрын

This was awesome in the 90s. You could even change the explorer to look like win3.11. You had all the drivers and the "stability" of 98 with the look and feel of 95. Back then it was cool to take windows customisation as far as you could. I remember having a custom start screen and a custom taskbar with all kinds of nerdy widgets. Mozilla, Winamp, ICQ an mIRC were also a must back then.

@chupathingy5862 7 ай бұрын

On windows ME, I customized the blue screen to show a black screen with cyan text.

@laracroftonline 2 жыл бұрын

Wow nostalgia feels here. And wow 98mbs 😱😱😱

@birds3646 2 жыл бұрын

first 20 minutes of it being uploaded is crazy

@t4N9410oR 2 жыл бұрын

It's kind of funny watching this video. Back when I was running a Win98 P1 233MMX system, I bought a copy of 98Lite Professional version 4.5, solely to tame IE4 as Windows shell in Win98. A month or so ago, wanting to play some Windows games that do not play nice with Win10, I had to use DOSBox X to create an emulated Win98 environment. I still have all my Windows 95, 98, and 98Lite files, extracted from their CDs, used to create my original 98Lite install of Windows, and I remembered how to install Windows DOS and then Windows itself, for a clean Win98 with 98Lite system. Wanting to update to the most recent version of 98Lite, my old license key wasn't valid on the site to obtain a copy of version 4.7. Emailing the company got my license updated, and enabled me to obtain the current version. On my old P1 233MMX, and in the emulated install, I'd do a clean install using the SLEEK option, rather than 98MICRO. Like a Windows install CD itself, 98Lite isn't something you'd use all the time. On a stable system you'd use it once, and that's all. For making a light weight, speedy, useable Win98 environment, though, it was a must have. And it still is.

@orinokonx01 2 жыл бұрын

I actually used 98lite back when it was relatively new, on computers that never needed internet (dialup at the time), so it didn't make sense to have internet explorer installed. Very useful program, and certainly something that could be used nowadays for a bit of fun. I wonder how well a 98lite installation would work on a 386, for example... Hmmmm...

@countzero1136 Жыл бұрын

I seem to remember 98lite being free - at least here in the UK I got it on a magazine cover cd, which I guess is kind of "free" if you don't count the price of the mag. I still have 98lite installs on a couple of old 486 laptops (Compaq Contura 430 and DEC Hinote Ultra 4-75)

@m4xxisd3ad 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. 👏👏👏

@gd-ludlulu 2 жыл бұрын

Did you try One-Core-API for Windows XP? That's a really cool project!

@aintaintaword666 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly it doesn't really work :(

@gd-ludlulu 2 жыл бұрын

@@aintaintaword666 What version are you using?

@phreapersoonlijk 2 жыл бұрын

10:43 Danke, Shane !

@b3ans4eva 2 жыл бұрын

I used 98lite before the days of seedboxes to download torrents on my ADSL connection on some old Compaq PC that was stored in my wardrobe and accessed with VNC.

@wikwayer 2 жыл бұрын

You should make a video about running windows 98 inside retroarch

@samdevelopsgames 2 жыл бұрын

Nice! The creator is an Australian just like I am.

@mityaboy4639 2 жыл бұрын

how much it is reduced in capability is the next question. can you install games? some for sure relied on system services to be available. i remember xplite had this same problem that it was amazingly small but at the cost of limited capability to install or run various applications. so it was good on the surface, but ended up more like a roadblock in the day to day usage. i still have the xplite install :)

@smartnima 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing

@milasudril 2 жыл бұрын

What happens if you add all drivers? That is, stripped down user-space but full kernel-space.

@windows10ball 2 жыл бұрын

Good vid

@GTFour Жыл бұрын

Would this work with the windows 98 batch utility script creator and then work with the script file on install?

@tompov227 2 жыл бұрын

my favorite thing about all of these videos is when logos and words fly from one corner to another while he's talking 😂

@Techmej 2 жыл бұрын

Perfection

@50ShadesOfBeige Жыл бұрын

This was great back in the day. Not just for stripping down win98 on hardware, but running Win98 is emulators of the day before real virtualisation came in.

@itzamedave6242 2 жыл бұрын

Nice I have the pentium 4 ht windows me version of the gateway PC still works great

@connorm955 2 жыл бұрын

It also removes your OEM info and logo. Be sure to back them up if you have Windows 98 already installed.

@TheAfroman 2 жыл бұрын

So wondering. Is there a way to get this all updated to Win 98 SE and all the updates? So if you have a version of Win98se and all patched up.. can this be run on it?

@guitaristtom Жыл бұрын

Does this work with the unofficial service pack for Windows 98 as well as KernelEx?

@ElectroPotato 2 жыл бұрын

A few years ago i bought a Compaq laptop that actually came with this.

@tonyfuad7043 2 жыл бұрын

I am a big fan

@squeaky6684 2 жыл бұрын

Babe wake up, MichaelMJD posted.

@ZzForCryingOutLoudzZ 2 жыл бұрын

What happens if you try to upgrade this install to ME, 2000, and/or XP?

@TSAMMariolover5554 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't even know that this was a new video lol

@MickeyMousePark 2 жыл бұрын

if i remember correctly those empty folders are created on boot if the OS cannot find the folders it creates them...

@AnityEx 2 жыл бұрын

is there anything similar but for windows 10? i wish to clean up some stuff too

@the_smart_waterbear1234 Жыл бұрын

How about you install Emu48 on Windows 98 since this is your most recent video of you WITH the Windows 98 PC, you think you can make it?

@ColdSphinX 2 жыл бұрын

This is really used for old kiosk systems or industrial control panels.

@oldator60 2 жыл бұрын

I have several old computers with 3.1, 98, XP, and win7. Plus a Commodore VIC-20, 64, and 128D.

@hanro50 Жыл бұрын

Some ancient industrial systems likely still need win 98 to function. So this tool could still be bought occasionally by places that need to make an embedded version of win 98.

@NguyenHoang-pv2xd 2 жыл бұрын

Is this 98lite good for setup arcade cabinet ?

@CesareVesdani Жыл бұрын

That's interesting to see an operating system only take 98MB of space. Can you make a slipstreamed version of Windows which takes up around half the storage space?

@thumbtak123 2 жыл бұрын

You should look at DSL, Damn Small Linux. Also, an even smaller one is FD Linux, FD meaning Floppy Disk.

@GenOner 2 жыл бұрын

Windows 3.11 runs on 1 floppy too, bootable i think its on winworld Still linux on floppy is tempting Menuet os also fits on a floppy

@Trazer350 2 жыл бұрын

I have an HP compaq Armada 1753d with Windows 98 but i work with an Ide to sd adapter that males the System work like Butter

@bennetfox 2 жыл бұрын

There is similar software for Windows XP that is called nLite. I used this tool to build a custom XP install CD that had all updates injected as well as a bunch of stuff removed that was served from a Linux based PXE server.

@oussamadaferio 2 жыл бұрын

It still exists today under the name NTLite (and it's Windows 10 compatible, but it's paid tho)

@samuel-wankenobi 2 жыл бұрын

Yes didn’t he do a video on that

@social6077 5 ай бұрын

Can you remove those empty folders without issue?

@marsilies 2 жыл бұрын

The was an even smaller install called nano98, that got the install down to under 5MB

@intel386DX 2 жыл бұрын

The problem with changing explorer to 95 one is that some programs refuse to work after this. For example Skype 3.8

@Wooziefise 2 жыл бұрын

Woah!

@owlsmol 10 ай бұрын

I don't understand. What is the difference between 95s shell and 98s shell? Why is that worth replacing?

@tritan20 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if there is any good windows 10 / windows 11 lite programs out there. Especially considering windows 11 is making me consider getting Linux instead.

@RodrigoBadin 2 жыл бұрын

Finally we found someone who sell less licenses per year than WinRAR

@BraxtonMeyer 2 жыл бұрын

michael, what do you mean new place, we didn't see th e mooving process at all

@Detested 2 жыл бұрын

Nice

@tonyfuad7043 2 жыл бұрын

Iam a big fan

@ZeroHourProductions407 2 жыл бұрын

I completely forgot 98lite existed. Meanwhile, in my corner of things, I find myself gravitating toward the unofficial service pack for Windows 98se and XP.