My school runs 10 users off one PC with Windows Server 2007, that has i7 870, 6GB DDR3 and a GT 210. That PC is really slow, but the cool thing is the ability to run multiple users at the same time.

Got a bad experience with crucial got a 1TB SSD and it no longer works 1 year later and an unknown amount of months prior to that The dang SSD went offsale it clearly was defective by design otherwise why would they take a "normal SSD offsale" Support on the website is shit can't even get a refund I still have a "warranty" for 2 more years but that does jack shit. (This comment is just a copy and pasted user experience of mine) I just find the company shady

I recommend first installing the free standalone Hyper-V server. Then install Admin Center on Win10/11 and connect to the Hyper-V server to manage it. With that done you can now install almost any version of windows as a Virtual Machine on Hyper-V. Linux can also be installed, but requires more work.

did you buy it for this video?

The things that are not said on this price page, is that it's just for 16 cpu core, if you want to have more core with your server, you need more licences, and let's not forget VM that also need the full core count for licensing (it's all obscure calculations), and we must also remember the need for CALs, and the license price depend on the server version. There are 3 versions of windows server, the basic one that is used in this video, sql server and exchange server that MS want to kill so everyone move to 365, but some company don't want things in the cloud. The server part of windows is a juicy business, there are licenses for everything and they are pricy.

How to do this

not fully detailed as lots of different menus but not much is needed to have it setup

Yeah. Edu N is lite windows 10. Makes it seem it needed pdc, but could use workgroups. Does. I use it. No candy crush! Among other bullshit. Add your own bullshit as needed like it should be.

Great explanation. In my case the domain includes about 200k work machines and the active directory handles the security for everything from mail, calenders, sso control, application assignment, licensing, and much more. I personally am not in the group that manages it, but I regularly work with them so I get a good overview.

Yup! For those who actually want to learn some of this stuff NetworkChuck and older Eli the Computer Guy videos are great for learning the theory.

Got to say that is sad

and this is why i say linux is far superior for server, windows is just too integrated with the gui

@@kim-hendrikmerk4163 Yeah. The interface is basically a part of the kernel.

@@dylon4906 whats wrong with gui?

@@Maxawa0851 its unnecessary in a lot of server use cases, just uses unnecessary resources and can be complicated

windows backup too!

5:21

just goes to prove he meant it when he said he didnt know anything about windows server. Edit: especially the fact that when he brought up prices, he totally disregarded any CAL pricing that would be required per user or device that would access that pc/server services such as printer or file server services.

@@michaelhanson5773 right... CAL pricing and quoting always confuses the heck out of clients

@@GameGeek128 ikr.. in college i worked at a pc sales and repair store. We would get called to quote out servers and do consults. The hardest part of any of that was the CAL pricing and explaining how it worked and us trying to remember rules and how things like virtualization licensing worked for client VM depending on the server versions.

And also the game servers and other servers

Linux are much more light-weighted than windows so it the best for the server environment. Unless I have to deal with active directory or windows specific application...

@unsubtract well they won't since they also know that pirates are the only way they can track data and make money

@@wsv8818 People do. Welcome to the Internet

@@wsv8818 Exactly. Well some people do. Mostly 'influencers'.

@333Orobas 666 Must have had a brain fart LOL, should have said up to 6TB Ram and up to 4 CPUs

@@MichaelPowellAus we have all had brain fart's for the last to years

@Michael Powell yeah, i got angry when my w10pro was downgraded so they could sell this at many, many, times the cost. Lately i use the N version of the educational edition. Its the lightest desktop oriented one. Workstations is heavier, and i got used to no more refs. It wants you to use a domain as well, but doesn't care if you use a workgroup. Server 2003 was my favorite pre x64 windows. Before vt-x, it was very useful to slim down sabdbox windows that can be put under a single process on the host. I hosted 5000 torrent seeds. Among othervstuff as it was the wan facing aspect of my pc. A proxy to get around censorship at work (why block Slashdot.... for tech guys?)

windows xp is when all versions became NT based (the home versions kernel was abandoned), and I don't know what you mean by "home versions" - but Pro is not kneecapped, and home is not either given who its intended for. In terms of Modern windows - home has most of Pro and Pro has most of Pro for Workstations.

@@TheGameMakeGuyNt is the old pro windows and the Windows kernel from XP

​@@TheGameMakeGuyNo, NT is "Windows New Technology" AKA: not DOS. NT is Windows 98 and everything since

​@@mgord9518NT is everything XP and above in terms of home use.

IIS isn't available in windows 10 Home only in Pro.

@@nipstyler I have Home and I have it.

This is true for IIS and other things like SQL server (just download and install it). But they both have benefits when using with active directory, e.g. using domain account for authentication\authorization.

@@nipstyler it's available!

I had done this on my laptop

you can turn that on is the windows features area

@@xBINARYGODx yea you can, completely forgot about that

wait... data what now?

That is now a role in Windows Server called Remote Desktop Services (Terminal Services in older versions).

@@andrewzasidko6595 No, multi-point server allowed you to attach multiple sets of keyboards, mice, and monitors to one physical computer, and use them to run different sessions. With Remote Desktop Services, you need to use separate computers which might be something as simple as a Chromebook, and access the sessions over the network.

@@katbryce oh, didn't know that difference. Do you know how it would've been done in a classroom? From what I've seen in my uni, there were some thin client look-alike at each workstation, although they might've been clients of networked KVM switch (then it's hard for me to imagine amount of video outputs the Multi-point server machine should have)

@@andrewzasidko6595 Probably a USB hub and a wired-through display connection. It might convert the signals to work over an ethernet cable, and convert them back at the other end, to benefit from the longer distance limits offered by network cables - increasing from about 10 meters up to about 100 meters. You probably need that to get from one end of the classroom to the other. These days you could do everything on a single USB-C cable, but that is a pretty recent thing and likely wasn't an option at the time.

@@katbryce Yes, that's how IP-KVM works, common server stuff. I wondered if Multi-Point server requires so much video outputs then. I believe 1 single slot card can handle up to 2-3 VGA's max, then we need 10 videocards to supply typical classroom. Or, closer to reality - up to 6-8 work spaces on single machine unit.

You can still do this. Just need to disable things like the shutdown event tracker etc.

I used to daily Windows Server before switching back to Linux and it most definitely is still the case

That is still the case now.

Ok

Okay

Oh K

O key

Thanks to him im almost a tech person and im a gamer already!

is it any good for gaming ?? I might update to windows server as my mane operating system. I don't like Windows 11 so I'm still on Windows 10. The problem is that at some point Microsoft is going to get rid of windows 10 and I will be forced to use windows 11, so I'm thinking as a way to get around this why not use windows server as its basically the same as Windows 10 :)

@@kinkykane0607 you shouldn't use windows server on a main pc. If you really want to get rid of windows 10 but not running windows 11 then try windows 10 ltsc but it's hard to get a legal license for it

@@ioneocla6577 thanks for the info. I'll look into it :)

@@kinkykane0607 it depends which games you are refereeing too, if you need to use modern gaming, with Store services, Xbox live and stuff like that, is a No No, but if you are a retro gamer, with emulators , Retroarch, old PC gaming...and things like that is Ok..

Yes

Overrated

Yes Windows 8.1

Windows 8.1

Well yes i tried windows 9 but stood out a virus

You can also use Server at no cost. Hint hint, EzWindSLIC.

@@Jon717 How?

@@Lampe2020 Are you asking how it's possible or how to use it? It activates Server using SLIC emulation, can also be used on Vista/7. The script is pretty easy to use. You might want also look at MAS, Microsoft-Activation-Scripts, for Windows 10/11 (including LTSC).

You can install mate desktop for a way to manage it graphically

@@Jon717 Hey, I've already used MAS to activate Win7! But how to download WinServer?

do the 321 rule. Here's what the 3-2-1 backup rule involves: 3: Create one primary backup and two copies of your data. 2: Save your backups to two different types of media. 1: Keep at least one backup file offsite. (so it doesnt just burn away with others)

Pro versions allow a single RDP connection at a time (officially). Server versions allow more than one, and have additional features such as RD Gateway.

Remote desktop client is on all versions of windows, so any version of windows can connect to either Pro or server. Pro versions allow a single RDP connection at a time (officially). Server versions allow more than one, and have additional features such as RD Gateway.

I'm taking Server 2016 right now

You should use Windows Server 2025

Yeah that trashy metro UI is soooooo easy to work with. I no longer support or manage 2012 and luckily all of the in place upgrades went smoothly.

yes

@TJ why are you trying to use windows server as a normal PC anyway but you would have to download third-party alternatives to replace the missing apps

@TJ For a better alternative to reducing ram usage, please skip to the bottom of this reply. The intention is to be used as a server PC, hence the name Windows Server, so of course it uses less RAM and storage. It is NOT designed to be used as a home PC, with a lot of the general ease of use features being missing, because all server users are powerusers. Also, are you like that poor to just not be able to buy a half-decent DDR3 x2 4GB ramstick??????? Literally anybody can afford a DDR4 x2 8GB Oh, and my PC doesn't even use most of the ram, it hovers around 5GB usage. I do not have any intentions of trying Windows Server because it is not useful for me, neither is it for you unless you are TRYING to setup a server. If your intentions ARE to reduce ram usage, then use Windows 10 1909 LTSC. LTSC doesn't have bloat, and uses less resources. Do not use server as a lite alternative. You can even try Windows 10 Debloated, an even slimmer installation of it.

One word. Powershell.

Same here

Any news? How'd it go?

check windows server core edition

Powershell. but can also use the Server Manager from another server, or RSAT from even a windows 10 workstation (with server admin permissions setup, typically within a AD domain membership)

Proper back ups are. Oncloud, off site, and local ( same building aka house )

Backups should really follow the 3-2-1 principle: • Keep at least three (3) copies of your data • Store two (2) backup copies on different storage media • With one (1) of them located offsite

Do NOT trust the "cloud"! Ever. Always have copies of your data in your own hot, little hands, including offsite. I do use a cloud backup, but only as an additional offsite protection, not my only.

isn't azure a service by ms?

@@dhruvakhera5011 Yup, Azure is Microsoft's cloud compute platform (similar to Amazon's AWS).

They probably just reused the frontend code.

They made it similar because it's designed in a way to allow you to tie in with your azure services (if you have any services in azure). It's just to make it more streamlined so you don't have to jump between your local and azure portal.

Just make sure you don’t open it up too much… I usually don’t even use it since or block remote access to the web-front since I don’t want people to be able to web browse into my core server… XD I then use a program to MFA access to the server.

There's Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC as well. If you don't use any of the server tools you can just use that. It can be permanently activated using MAS from Github. Note: Starting with LTSC 2021 only the IoT version has the 10 year support, regular version has 5. There's really no difference between the two. It's EOL date is Jan 13, 2032.

@@Jon717 pls bro wat about windows 10 pro, any permanent activation available?

Thank you, I didn't realize MAS existed. Also, have you had any issues using LTSC, like with compatibility or anything? I'm currently running a custom Windows Pro ISO that I manually edited. So far, my windows store is broken even after I tried so hard to keep it working. My calculator app broke and I can't even reinstall it since Windows store is broken. Also, Minecraft now uses Microsoft store

@@Kingda2_ yes, MAS. It can permanently activate any version of Windows 10 via HWID, excluding Server. MAS only offers KMS38/KMS activation for Server. EzWindSLIC can permanently activate Server using SLIC activation, Windows 7 also uses it.

@@bubbleboy821 I haven't really come across many issues. LTSC doesn't have the Microsoft Store so it would need to be installed. If you plan to use the MS Store for the latest games/apps you might run into issues with not meeting minimum requirements down the line, since LTSC doesn't get any feature updates. If you don't really use the MS Store much, you should be fine.

My first version was 2012 R2

@@verica4b My first version was Windows Server 2000 👵🏻

@@katbryce nice

windows backup working in 2022 too

Because it came out months before Windows 11, Windows Server 2025 will be the first version to have a Windows 11 GUI

Yes. Its all command based. If you've ever used the Command Prompt, that's exactly what you will see. Black screen with white text.