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@TheHandyman14 жыл бұрын
What about the lever nuts???? Have it it. Here they are. amzn.to/35dSE1N Must be made of gold.
@fd38714 жыл бұрын
@@Marcel_Germann i tend to agree, I think the tension will probably last longer screw terminals in European applications. In American receptacles, we can wrap the wire around the screw which is a pretty fail-safe connection if torqued enough so probably the push-in will fail first. But we are talking over a long long period of time here in both situations.
@Guillotines_For_Globalists4 жыл бұрын
Sparky loves them, gets huge boners for Wago.
@roofertwins45214 жыл бұрын
The Handyman you seem to be jolly!! Feeling that Christmas spirit?!!!
@Justin-C4 жыл бұрын
All I can say from experience is screw trying to twist 4+ 12ga wires together in a tight box. Time is money, right? If you can save yourself an hour+ of time using a few dozen 20-40 cent (wago) lever nuts, why wouldn't you?
@charlesjackson15884 жыл бұрын
@@Justin-C right on Justin
@russrockino-rr08643 жыл бұрын
We have been using the push-in connectors in the trade for over 15 years. They are proven technology, No worries. Electrical contractors were nervous about using them at first, but they are quite commonly used today with minimal concerns. Not only are they faster to use, they also save space in the box. Russ-Journeyman Electrician from Oregon.
@robertgregory2618 Жыл бұрын
Whats your opinion then of push in receptacles?
@simonschertler30344 жыл бұрын
Here in Germany we use wago connectors since 1974, know a day's all electricians use same and I have never seen a failed wago connector.
@shreddder9994 жыл бұрын
PITA with stranded conductors. Some people go through the trouble of tinning them first.
@JasonShowell4 жыл бұрын
@@shreddder999 For stranded I normally go ferrule or use lever wagos.
@shreddder9994 жыл бұрын
@@JasonShowell I've since mastered stranded in Wagos. From the instant you start to insert it use lots of wiggling esp parallel to the wide side of the Wago and it will go right in. It takes a bit of feel. The important part is getting the tip of the conductor past the gripping section of the Wago. No tinning needed and I wasn't about to go that route anyway LOL.
@pcofranc4 жыл бұрын
@@shreddder999 stranded need the crimp on connectors on the end and regular wire nuts to connect to solid. Solder shouldn't be used (in general) because it prevents wire nuts from grabbing properly.
@shreddder9994 жыл бұрын
@@pcofranc if you mean to connect to screw terminals on switches and outlets, the only problem is that switches and outlets were not tested with crimp terminals when they gained approval.
@agoogleuser15944 жыл бұрын
kids walk in the door: "Mom the weird guy behind the plastic is talking to himself again. When is he going to leave?"
@TheHandyman14 жыл бұрын
LOL. That has happen many times. I quick put my phone up to my ear so they think I'm talking on the phone.
@iamamish4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHandyman1 That's amazing and I hope it's true
@petroshmo4 жыл бұрын
Imagine their face when they hear the high pitched naysayer voice behind the plastic!!
@htownlegend13313 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Tumbleweed-vh4pt3 жыл бұрын
Really entertain the kids and ask them if they want to see something really scary, if they do, show them a picture of Nancy Pelosi.
@razvantraian50033 жыл бұрын
I use the small connectors at work (Electrician in Denmark) Never had a failure with those connectors. True we use "Wago" connectors. Good company and copper inside
@Shamiredcius3 жыл бұрын
The same in the Netherlands and we have no problems and we have 230v.
@perbjorndahl60233 жыл бұрын
Given that we use a higher voltage in Europe, the current can be lower for the same power: P= U*I or its AC version p=u*i*cos ϕ, but for a resistive load ϕ = 0 => cos ϕ = 1. To calculate the current you can re-shuffle this formula to: i = p/u As an example, for a 1500 W appliance the current drawn is: i = 1500/u. If u = 230 V, as in Europe, then the current is 6.5 A. If u = 120 V, then the current would be 12.5 A. Another way of looking at it is to look at the power generating heat in the connector. The connector has a very low, but still resistance. Most people know Ohm's law: U = R*I or for AC u = r*i. Substitute u in the power formula and you get: p=r*i*i in other words the square of the current. This means that heat generating power would be p=r*42.25 in the European example and p=r*156.25 in the 120 V example, which means that the heat generated in a line using 120 V would be 3.7 times higher for the same value of r and that is why the small connectors could work just fine here in Europe, but could be a bit more questionable in the USA.
@tomyj91663 жыл бұрын
@@perbjorndahl6023 since the wires in the US are thicker (2x) due to higher current, the heat dissipation would be greater and therefor lower (heat is transported away from weak link) just a thought.
@gravitystorm611583 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen wagos actually arc inside the connector during TI work in commercial buildings. Many California codes have outlawed them. They were nifty devices at first. The NFPA identified them as faulty. In fact, you’ll find that on plan checks in many cities, the NFPA is becoming the rule book.
@cougalum53973 жыл бұрын
@@gravitystorm61158 Pictures or it didn’t happen.
@Tolongalofa4 жыл бұрын
This guy went from shy guy showing us what it's like day to day as a handyman ... To the greatest diy handyman showman there is...... Well done to you Sir..👍🇦🇺
@TheHandyman14 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jay-rus44373 жыл бұрын
tolong alofa ....agreed. Ive been in construction, project management, and have for the last 8 years been a self employed GC. This guy has some good solid info. I dont always agree with his position on some things, but that doesnt make him wrong either. I would trust him to work on my home....and Im an OCD contractor...lol. With that said...I love sharkbite fittings. LOL 😁
@hdj81Vlimited3 жыл бұрын
@@jay-rus4437 I do believe he is wright about the sharkbite fittings, the do get bad connection over time. Copper tends to get corrotion inside. en metal and copper contact get it first when there is not enough force to contact. In plugs you screw them very hard to give good connection, but in wire connection they can push in loose????
@RyanPizzuto4 жыл бұрын
The high pitched voice of the naysayer gets me every time. Love it.
@feralbeliever42484 жыл бұрын
It's my favorite part of all his videos. Makes me grin every damn time.
@Longeno554 жыл бұрын
The humor as well as the practical knowledge both rock!
@jeffherbold71184 жыл бұрын
Feral Believer the
@experiment863 жыл бұрын
Your explanation about how the push in connectors fail after heat cycling a lot is spot on. Had one melt itself in my panel a couple weeks ago. Made a video about it if you want to check it out. Replaced it with a wire nut. I plan on getting rid of the rest of the push ins in my panel.
@idadho3 жыл бұрын
In testing, the ten inch wire alone had .0049 ohms. Wire nuts had .0045 ohms. Wago had .0055 ohms. Push-in had .0055 ohms. I would never quibble about only 11% increase in resistance. A poorly stripped and twisted wire nut could do the same. A long run of wire can have 11% more resistance. That difference is only 0.0006 ohms.
@lesliecruzado27933 жыл бұрын
Love all your content. I'm a fellow handyman myself. Just learning new ways to do stuff, adding new skills to my tool box, and just having fun. Keep the good work!
@sergiodjf2 жыл бұрын
I agree with wire nut connectors having more contact area vs the wagos, especially for voltages 110 V & above but I prefer the wagos for control low voltage wiring. They are very convenient for service work.
@msshanks823 жыл бұрын
Hi HandyMan. Just have to tell you that I have 8 electrical contractor's, 2 Inspectors in my family. We have done electrical for 55 years. One of most important things as an electrision is to make a tight secure wire nut " Merrett " connection. I admire your decision to be the best you can be. Love watching your repairs. Cheers
@8432924 жыл бұрын
Thanks Handyman! This video (and other videos of yours) gave me confidence to crawl up into the attic above the garage and install two new outlets in the ceiling so I could install some new LED shop lights. It's probably because I haven't done it a thousand times like yourself, but I found the twisting of the wires to be somewhat difficult. I learned to start the wires with all the insulation (coating?) at the same mark and begin the twist at the insulation, not at the end. I'm not sure if this is how you do it, but it seemed to work well for me since I was beginning the twist closer to the point where I was holding the wires. Either way, your videos are great! And I really appreciate you taking the time to make them!
@JasonEDragon4 жыл бұрын
I'd grant you that twisting a small number of wires together and then applying a wire nut usually makes a better connection. However, Wago connectors and the like have their advantages. It is much easier to modify the circuit, if necessary, down the road. The installation time is about 1/3 that of wire nuts. Typically less wire is needed to make the connection, so boxes are filled less. Additionally, the wires will rotate in the connector, so the wires tend to seat themselves into the box better when you push the connector into the box. With less clutter it is usually easier to look at the box and understand the circuit. As a plus, there is a test point readily available on Wago connectors, so you don't have to take the connection apart to measure voltage. And, newer style Wagos are clear, so it is pretty easy to inspect for issues.
@wallacegrommet93432 ай бұрын
Wire nut instructions say not to twist multiple conductors together. Twist the wire nut until the conductor bundle twists around itself a turn. That is proof of a good connection
@picklerix61624 жыл бұрын
I normally use wire nuts for most connections but the quick connects are great for installing LED lights.
@MrBtdobie4 жыл бұрын
same here.
@chriswebb8104 жыл бұрын
Thats primarily what they were developed for i think. Commercial lighting installs in offices warehouses etc. easy to use with ballast wires in led and fluorescent fixtures. Then were pushed to increasing applications
@eclipse369.4 жыл бұрын
@@chriswebb810 Maybe these new ballasts but old ones would easily melt them overtime.
@liamwelsh55653 жыл бұрын
I only use them when the light already has them preinstalled.
@jimmybob73643 жыл бұрын
Yeah...I use the quick connects for low voltage. I agree with HM...wire nuts for me on high voltage home uses. But I won't lie...I did use the quick connects on my home where the previous owners left a whole 2mm of extra wire when I was installing a switched connection on undersink outlet for garbage disp. Just wasn't enough room in the box box for wire nuts for the extension.
@stevefifield12074 жыл бұрын
Good video, love your content! I feel like you got started talking about the 15A vs 20A outlet reasoning but stopped short though. The reason folks don't have several of the 20A outlets (NEMA 5-20) on a circuit is to dramatically reduce the chance of circuit overload. The plug attached to products is determined by the device's power needs, and anything that needs from 0 to 15 amps has the 15A plug (NEMA 5-15). Homes are full of devices that use 1 amp (approx) or less - tvs, cable boxs, lights, game console, chargers, laptops, computers, etc... You could very realistically be using 10+ of these items simultaneously on a single circuit and still be well under the 20A limit of the wiring which is a good thing; so having several of the 15A duplex outlets on a circuit isn't usually a problem. Any device that would have the 20A plug (NEMA 5-20) means the device needs more than 15A of power (between 15 - 20 amps) in normal operation. These are serious devices with serious power needs, they require a different outlet to make it super obvious the needs are greater and prevent you from instantly overloading that previous circuit with 10+ devices. Even a dedicated 20A circuit with a single DUPLEX NEMA 5-20 outlet means 2 of these heavy duty devices could be plugged in and used simultaneously, and 15A (or more) + 15A (or more) is > than the 20A circuit which means overload / fire / breaker trip / etc... That's a single duplex outlet, let alone putting several of these on a circuit. Folks normally only install the 20A outlet if they have a specific device that needs one, and they may argue that they only have 1 of these devices so putting multiple 20A outlets around the circuit gives them flexibility of where they can use this one heavy duty device safely. While true, that also means they could very likely be plugging in other smaller devices on that same circuit that's already near capacity bringing it into overload. That one monster 18A device + a weak corded 3A drill brings you over 20A. Personally, i'd only do a duplex (or a couple duplex) 20A outlet(s) on a 30A circuit so at least there's a little wiggle room for more than 1 device to be used.
@Nick-bh1fy4 жыл бұрын
You also gotta keep in mind circuits shall not exceed 80% of its rated ampacity so you shouldn’t really be exceeding more than 12A on a 15A circuit or 16A on a 20A
@NeverPullOutInMexico2 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-bh1fy "Branch Circuits"
@TheTidobanditto3 жыл бұрын
Love this video. Been working in electrical service for 6 years now and one of the main issues I come across is connection issues with the stab-lock connection on the back of an outlet. The push connectors are no different. I use those push connectors for only one thing, light fixtures with 16 - 22 AWG inside. That's it. If you use these for 15 Amp circuits, you will get a good few years out of them but eventually, the tension on the springs fails and causes damage. He is exactly right, over time heat from the amps wears down these connection points to where wires, devices, and boxes get burned up. I have yet to repair a connection point where the installer twisted the wires and capped it with a wire nut. If you use a wire nut and twist the wires like shown in this video, that connection will last a long time.
@TheTidobanditto2 жыл бұрын
@@robertsparling sounds good. And I guarantee Service Electricians have been replacing those Wagos every 2 - 10 years, depending on the average load on that circuit. Even higher capacity wagos fail over time.
@jasonwomack40644 жыл бұрын
Cramming a GFCI into an old metal box makes me feel like Ron Jeremy.
@TheHandyman14 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@alanross34354 жыл бұрын
The Handyman , I think it's a 70s thing ( porn )
@its4electric4 жыл бұрын
What that Ron is behind you
@jasonwomack40644 жыл бұрын
@@wizard3z868 depth isn't so much the issue. It's the width. Damn near touches the sides.
@trashdove58304 жыл бұрын
Raw Dog or with a spark guard?
@kenbrown28083 жыл бұрын
simpler answer: a "15 amp receptacle" is, unless it is a quickwire model, is a 20 amp rated assembly made to use with 15 amp plugs.
@digimon9163 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel. Great stuff. Im into cars and theres tons of good car youtubers that take you down and dirty with them with their knowledge and work, but when i try to find home improvement stuff i ways run into some boring school training stuff. And u dont just install, you explain and educate. This channels awesome!
@allenblum62574 жыл бұрын
I've just watched two videos about outlet wiring; one touted the convenience and speed of push-in connectors, and this one that promoted wire nuts. I am leaning toward wire nuts for all kitchen and bathroom circuits (hairdryer, refrigerator,, coffee pot), and push-in connectors for low-wattage outlets such as LED lighting. I am leaning toward wire nuts for most receptacles because you never know if you (or your children) might wind up plugging in a 1200 watt space heater, or a 500-watt sun lamp or a hairdryer.
@semperfi37944 жыл бұрын
There are 15A simplex receptacles. All of those devices shown were rated at 20A feed thru.
@Cobrajet3164 жыл бұрын
You have become my favorite "number one home improvement KZfaq channel in the world". Every morning I search YT for the latest upload from The Handyman. You making learning this stuff fun. Bravo
@dell1773 жыл бұрын
I've been wiring outlets and switches for close to 60 years, I'm not a licensed electrician but have worked as an industrial electrician. When you first wire something up the wires are usually bright and shiny but as time goes on that bare wire tarnishes and that does not conduct very well, best to be safe and do whatrver allows greater contact area. Those stab connections might be fine for very light loads (a single bulb) but you can't be sure someone won't plug a toaster oven into a lamp receptacle. I still use wire nuts and put receptacle wiring under the screw head for maximum contact area and low resistance, this ensures nothing will overheat - overheating can cause a fire..
@civicfire993 жыл бұрын
"they create the information in their own mind". I'm dead LOL
@danielcullen44834 жыл бұрын
As an electrician in the UK, it's crazy how different it can be done
@maynardblaston60933 жыл бұрын
in California there are plenty of wirenuts and plenty of "Wagos" (in commercial more often) One thing a service electrician will curse is seeing 6 neutrals into one wago on a live circuit that he has to work on. Good times!
@kenbrown28083 жыл бұрын
@@maynardblaston6093 the thing I curse is having to pull a fixture apart at trim time because the fixture wire didn't lock into the (factory installed) Wago properly.
@submittedbymail3 жыл бұрын
Love your vid. Please don't forget tamper proof or the inspector will get you.
@stonecold83202 жыл бұрын
@@maynardblaston6093 What are you suggesting? only use the Wago's for the Hot Black wires ? and twist the whites?
@profabmachine4 жыл бұрын
In this episode we learn about sports with examples of homeruns and knockouts, we go south of the border for some Spanish lessons, then a quick stop in the workshop lab for some dissecting of electric push connectors, before an in depth discussion on metallurgy where we theorize about spring steel fatigue over time and what role heat plays as well. Enjoy!
@TheHandyman14 жыл бұрын
Awesome comment.
@mrromantimothy4 жыл бұрын
yeah but in that episode you completely ignore the not so obvious truth right in front of your face a primary side US system and a secondary side EU system will treat terminal connectors differently , to jump on and make conclusions with that limited data is not in depth at all you're diving headfirst into the shallow end.
@Test-tj9bu3 жыл бұрын
You missed geophysics and climatology. 😊
@daievo0733 жыл бұрын
plot twist: that's actually French
@Tumbleweed-vh4pt3 жыл бұрын
david laverdure I was wondering if someone was going to point that one out! And then you have the last name that is mostly certainly qualified!
@wjthehomebuilder4 жыл бұрын
What about on a can light box? I've been seeing those lately with the push to connect wire nuts already installed. Would you still cut them off and install the twist nut?
@HCheatNcool4 жыл бұрын
I work in a school and I use the line splice style push in connectors for the control wires on light fixture ballasts. They save a ton of time on stuff like that and there isn’t too much heat on those wires anyway. Always nut the hot and neutral though.
@norrisonian4 жыл бұрын
"...it's like talking to flat earthers!!" lololol. He knows them! Thanks for my morning laugh!
@austin36263 жыл бұрын
Or the Qanon types.
@consaka13 жыл бұрын
Yeah or the chemtrailers. Flunked physics for sure. I teach that physics to first and second graders while we wait for the bus.
@charlessmith8333 жыл бұрын
The insertion hole in the receptacle has the same leaf type grabber. I never use them. I wire to the screws and I use wire nuts.
@willschultz54523 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely!! Safest way to do it!👍
@Tumbleweed-vh4pt3 жыл бұрын
A real sparky likes to twist and screw them good !
@lockedin604 жыл бұрын
Among your vast skills and knowledge you are a Language Translator Also. WTG Mr.. Handyman! Never a dull moment watching your channels. You are a saint for not throwing up your hands for the repeatable questions you get. Smooth Operator.
@nickelwound19784 жыл бұрын
Your high pitched voice segments are my favorite part of KZfaq.
@bcreason3 жыл бұрын
I like the push on connectors because they’re flat and take less room in the box. I had to use them when installing bulky smart switches into crowded switch boxes. With twist on wire nuts I couldn’t get the switches in. I had to remove them and replace them with push ons in order to get the switches in.
@dpomeroy9283 жыл бұрын
The push in connectors might last up to 10 years in desert heat. The clear plastic disintegrated when used in a ceiling for can lights. The home might have been 12 years old. Replaced with wire nuts. But wago might have been a good alternative too.
@billchambers25853 жыл бұрын
You are exactly right!!! The situation you describe already exists with duplex receptacles. I have been an electrician for many years and have found many issues with loose connections when the push-in connection is used on the back of a duplex receptacle. Over time they come loose due to heating and cooling cycles as you described. Often I find "dead" receptacles that stop working due to an open circuit when this type of connection has failed. Call me old school but I always loop the wire around the screw connections on the sides of a duplex receptacle. Yes push-in connections are fast but its not quality work! I may take longer to wire a house but it is a far more reliable connection. Good video keep them coming.
@DavidCrigger4 жыл бұрын
re: connectors - The old guys used to say the same thing about wire nuts when they were newer compared to soldiering - weaker connection, will fall apart over time, and on and on. When's the last time you saw anyone soldiering and taping a connection in a wall box????
@trevorblue4 жыл бұрын
I burned out my side cutters on a farmer-wired house, cutting all that soldered wire
@gregberban92734 жыл бұрын
I do alot of service see them often
@henryostman57404 жыл бұрын
last time I did it. Some connections just can't break.
@artysanmobile4 жыл бұрын
David Crigger Much of engineering, of all disciplines, is finding and quantifying the point of diminishing return. Soldering a junction that will be flexed regularly in its service is correct practice. Soldering a junction that will spend its entire service life inside a box with zero movement is just bad engineering, period.
@damion11213 жыл бұрын
After re-doing all the wiring in my old house. I’ve seen plenty of melted tape in boxes all over the house. I couldn’t believe it didn’t start a fire in the past, especially in the light fixtures....
@richwood27414 жыл бұрын
I have had plenty of failures with twist caps over the years. Nothing is perfect. I like the new connectors. They save plenty of space in old boxes.
@GlitchedPepsi4 жыл бұрын
Actually the push ins fail alot. There literally like backstabbing
@lawrencevogt74304 жыл бұрын
After 50 years in the business I have never has a wire fail I have used ideal wing nuts since they came out with no problems
@mrromantimothy4 жыл бұрын
Wire nuts have a spring inside of them when copper or aluminum wire is in use it expands and then it will contract making a loose connection with Wakko's or stab wiring
@hectorramos83984 жыл бұрын
Reasons why a wire nut will fail are not twisting the solid wires together, improperly twisting the wires and in some cases were stranded wire is added to the connection and twisted. So any bad connections will fail.
@dracula38114 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen both fail. Wagos have the chip creep effect. The hot/ cold cycles work the wires loose over time in wagos. I’ve seen the most wire nuts fail in wall packs. The heat eventually splits them. That’s another reason why I recommend switching to LED bulbs
@patrickfilippi48434 жыл бұрын
You stepping up your game. I have watched you for years. More energy, explaining things in detail!!! Great job
@augustaking83 жыл бұрын
20 Amp receptacles are heavier and better, especially when you are moving plugging in cooking appliances and moving them around from one spot to another. You don't have to but I do. Retired IBEW 292.
@gregaluise57273 жыл бұрын
Plus wouldn't it make sense to allow insertion of a true 20amp plug if someone happened to have an appliance or piece of equipment that used it. I know they're rare but I have a power distribution unit for audio gear that has the 20amp plug. Granted I'm not running the >1000 watt amplifier in the house.
@raymondgarafano86043 жыл бұрын
I've heard of guys doing that, even if its on a 15 amp line.
@123kend3 жыл бұрын
Why not just use a commercial grade 15 amp receptacle instead?
@ProfessorDickify3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the shark bite and the wago are on 2 different levels
@AnthonyBrusca3 жыл бұрын
Wago lever nuts are much better than these ideal push connects
@glennmoses39744 жыл бұрын
New sub here, first video I have ever watched of yours and I only subscribed because of how your shop looks. Trashed, fire hazards everywhere, booze bottle on the floor, gun on the bench and nothing organized. All that says you are in control of your own life and that you are always busy. Mine is the same way and I can never get it cleaned up but I know where everything is so its all good.
@ceecee78794 жыл бұрын
LOVING that under cabinet lighting 👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Twisted is ALWAYS better on the #1youtubehomeimprovementchannelintheworld
@j.sineduce61633 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏽! Someone recently recommended the push connectors to me. I was gonna store the wing nuts I bought and buy the push in, but I like to do a little research before I deal with anything I’m unfamiliar with in the electrical realm.
@Hunter-yc4xi4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Finally someone who understands why you don’t use push in’s! It’s all about surface area! This goes for wiring devices, that‘s switches and outlets for the DIY’ers. I’ve replaced dozens of devices that were backwired and the connections Broke down over time and caused a failure. Side wire all of your devices!
@WeekendBuilds4 жыл бұрын
I've had those push connectors fail a few times. It happened inside the house, but on exterior walls. last winter it got super cold, I didn't have much in the way of insulation. the wire contracted enough to loosen up and stop working. the clamps didn't fail and there was no safety issue, but it did open the circuit.
@ranger1782 жыл бұрын
which push connectors failed? the ones on back of outlets or wago ideal or some name brand or the chinese knock off ones?
@BJBaller0034 жыл бұрын
More chipmunk voices please!! I think it's great, plus it keeps my daughter interested enough to not get upset that I'm watching Daddy shows.
@JJ-iu5hl3 жыл бұрын
Your name is cool. Almost super cool, but not quite.
@adamn4804 жыл бұрын
So I just added a socket in my garage. I Spliced from a nearby 12 gauge wire leading to my bathroom. I used those little yellow in-sure connectors. I plugged my portable A/C and it's not running right. plugged A/C into a different socket and its running fine. Could the in-sure connector be the issue? thanks
@calbry12 жыл бұрын
i became a renter and soon after began paying rent with home repairs, installations, etc... found out I have a liking for miscelanious home repairs, from plumbing and electrical to drywall and flooring. Now I'm considering this life as a handyman and I must say your channel is a wealth of knowledge. hoping to develop the skill sets to market myself as a handyman but still feel a tad inexperienced. Anyways, looking forward to binging your channel.
@efixx4 жыл бұрын
Ah Ha - our video on the Wago 221’s went nuts after you dropped this - Thanks for the traffic. FYI electricians in Europe love the Wago’s - twisting wires together gets frowned upon as it makes testing in the future difficult.
@dragonstuff19834 жыл бұрын
Bah! Push-in are just as good as twisting. They have been through rigorous testing and have proven themselves time and again. Not to mention that they save a ton of time and are reliable as all hell.
@MorFiuuukas4 жыл бұрын
And also do not stress wire like twisting does (2 to 4 twistings and they break down)
@michaelhealy70054 жыл бұрын
I disagree. If you’re an electrician and ever had to troubleshoot an open circuit due to people using the ‘stab in’ slots on receptacles(which are basically the same concept) then you would know that they expand and contract from heat of current flow and eventually fail to make good contact over time
@throttlebottle59064 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhealy7005 been there done that, still hit them frequently... older outlets when they still allowed #12 or #14 wire, they went to #14 and 15Amp circuits on ling ago due to high failure rates. only place I like push in connectors are in lighting/signage, ballast swaps and bypass for LED retrofits ;)
@agent6554 жыл бұрын
I can attest to their failure rate. Commonly used in smoke detector j box connections where I live. It is incredibly common for them to fail (see melting) causing havoc with random detectors going off intermittently. Maybe there is a good application for them. For the long haul... I haven't found any.
@440Trick4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhealy7005 that same thing happens with screw terminals. As a master electrician with 22yrs in the field. Many of those years in the service field I have seen many melted receptacles. I cannot say I have seen more burnt stab in then screw ons. People tighten the screws with drills and have no idea how tight they truly are. Also these stab ins are not the same as 30 yrs ago. Technology improves daily, imagine 30yrs worth. Stab ins are fine and I dare to say they are better and reduce human error.
@teddybruscie3 жыл бұрын
When you talked about GFCI's I almost had a heart attack because I forgot whether I put the wires in right today. But then I remembered the Line is always on top and I plugged them all in at the top. Since I do Commercial I don't really have to worry about the load very often, because it's habit to always wire from the top I always know the line/power is on top.
@charlesmcadory82864 жыл бұрын
What do you think of using Wago Conductor Compact Splicing Connectors
@jbonegw4 жыл бұрын
0:30 LMFAO! Pure gold. 🤣
@brh40154 жыл бұрын
Since in Europe we never had wire nuts and the alternative to the WAGO push ins are screw terminals WAGO is the only way.
@petersheloski83253 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thank you! Cant wait to check out the rest of your content. What about using push-in connectors for smaller gauge wires? Like for a florescent light ballast.
@billself52083 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you fell on the side of wirenuts. I'm a retired master electrician of 38 years. The twisted wire under a wirenut is the best, safest, surest and most professional way to do it. If you can't twist four number 12's and put a wire nut on it then the box you installed is too small. That's why they make different size boxes!! Surprise, surprise! Plan your job and use the correct size boxes, conductors and methods. If you fail to plan your plan to fail.
@operationhandyman89203 жыл бұрын
The principle is the same with pushing the wires in to the back of a receptacle. I always tighten the wires around the screw.
@Diffidentone3 жыл бұрын
I'll never use any kind of connector with spring steel or brass/copper as the mechanism that holds in the wire. Used the push in connectors on the back of switches and outlets in our family vacation cabin we built and now 20 years later they are all failing as the spring just loses it's tension over time and causes heat which causes failure. It's loop the wire and use the screws to hold it from now on, takes more time but far far safer as failure pretty much will never happen.
@louisianagator953 жыл бұрын
My dad was an electrician and looped around the screw was all I knew, didn't know about the push-in method until 25 when I finally stumbled upon it. My disdain for subcontractors was once again validated.
@toddhenning83043 жыл бұрын
I have fixed two places where the push in connection was used. Once a loss of neutral to many down circuit outlets, the other was causing over heating one a outlet where the heavy load was down circuit. Dangerous situations.
@robstephens4 жыл бұрын
Some outlets have stab connectors that you can use instead of the side screws - same type connection as the push in connectors. I have seen many of the stab connector outlets fail. When they fail, there is usually low voltage at the outlet.
@Tolohtony3 жыл бұрын
I'm just an auto mechanic and home DIYer and for what it's worth, I would have to agree with Handyman. Even though the Wagos might work perfectly, to me the contact surface area and clamping of the wirenuts give you the best shot at a connection that won't fail. I have used the Wagos on some replacement porch lights because there was only 1½ of wire to work with. It was also a little difficult to make sure I had the stranded wire from the fixture in correctly. (Box says they can be used with stranded wire) Also, I never use the backstab connector on an outlet. My favorite outlets are the kind that you kinda backstab the wire, but have a clamping nut on the inside that you tighten with the side screw.
@talontooner3 жыл бұрын
I've come across a few charred push in receptacles where they connect electric space heaters. I don't see how they're even legal.
@geoken23 жыл бұрын
There are videos online showing people running large amounts of power (70A) through a wire and both the wire nut and push connector melt to nothing (the plastic housing at least, the metal internal components of both are fine). If you're running too much power through a line and generating heat - plastic will melt. This isn't unique to push connectors.
@mescetacy4 жыл бұрын
For a 2 wire connection, I'm totally with you. Sometimes when I've had to crank together a 4 or 5 wire connection, the Wago Lever nuts are soooooo much better. The lever nuts are better than the push ins also.
@designstudio80132 жыл бұрын
Wire nut damage and stress the wires
@1969mmendoza4 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos....I’ve learned so much. Thanks. Btw. Need more of the chipmunk voice ...I love it.
@curtisf12764 жыл бұрын
Love the way you explain this stuff. Thank you!
@daveengstrom92503 жыл бұрын
For future reference, your close ups are not good enough. Place them on the bench (so they do not move) and bring the camera much closer. Then leave it film for several seconds.
@payton12843 жыл бұрын
Ain't nobody got time for all that!
@mackaronen4 жыл бұрын
I'm no electrician, but I'm a pretty nosy surveyor, and always take a peek at the wiring on the sites I work at. And I haven't seen a singe wire nut here in Sweden, but many many push in connectors. And keeping in mind how obsessed with safety us Swedes are, they should be good enough. At least on a 10A breaker, I don't know if they are allowed on 16A breakers, I've only seen skrew connections there.
@busterdeadpool4 жыл бұрын
Most of our residential breakers are 15 amp and higher. Unless the house is very old. 15 amp circuits i believe are too much for the push connectors especially during a surge in power for an extended period of time.
@underwoodblog4 жыл бұрын
Push in connectors keep the force on the cable, if the copper "shrinks" from high currents or corrosion. I have seen old screw connectors where two cables where twisted together and put in a screw terminal on a 25A connection. I was able to pull it out with no force. Flooded device with push in connectors still holds the cables, although the copper was green and corroded half of the size.
@jay-rus44373 жыл бұрын
Ive emailed you before, as I too am a GC in the Tulsa area. We have certainly looked at the push connectors. Recently I watched a test that put excess voltage to multiple type wire connectors.....the results were pretty surprising
@theguy26053 жыл бұрын
I have a question that has been bugging me. If i have a light fixture with 14 gauge wire can i connect it with power to a 12 gauge wire????
@daedalus90423 жыл бұрын
Springs don’t lose their springy-ness unless they’re being compressed and released. If that little tab isn’t moving, it’s not going to fail.
@ianbutler19833 жыл бұрын
Yes, springs were from cycling. Right you are.
@ricker76er3 жыл бұрын
Heat will do it too
@chrisv46404 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else take the wires back out by just twisting back and forth and pulling? I do it with receptacles too when I need to remove a wire from the push in holes. Who has time to poke a tiny screwdriver in the release hole pfffft! Without a doubt, if you take apart something done by an "oldtimer" it will be staked and wire nut like you show. And every old receptacle is looped and screwed, because it the right way to do it.
@jdshear014 жыл бұрын
Great bench work illustration - I've never used push in connections and doubt I ever will. If it's not broken then don't fix it, wire nuts are time tested and I can sleep at night knowing the connection will not separate and they're relatively cheap. I know some will argue "but that's easily offset by the extra cost of labor to twist and wire nut a joint"...meh get thicker skin and a better set of linesmen pliers. The push in wire connectors just don't sit well with me, I've seen enough terrible wire splice jobs and code violations to shy away from using them. I'm waiting for the next video that discusses GFCI versus AFCI...the code changes in this area are serious expense multipliers.
@mattdegooyer58703 жыл бұрын
I agree with you TOTALLY on the suck factor of the push in type connectors. I have even seen them fail. Not the metal tab, but the clear plastic is brittle and crumbles over time. On my pigtails, I go 1 step further and wrap the wires with the connector with a couple of loops of electrical tape. Great channel. I am a Huge Fan.
@igotfoureyes4 жыл бұрын
Here in the UK push fitting are pretty much the norm. Wago being the go to brand
@ethelryan2574 жыл бұрын
Americans are always cautious about anything new in the electrical world - and WAGOs have only been in use for about 50 years.
@mrromantimothy4 жыл бұрын
you have twice the voltage .
@JLneonhug4 жыл бұрын
@@mrromantimothy double the fun.
@atariandre50144 жыл бұрын
@@ethelryan257 Americans simply usually are old-fashioned, have issues with accepting that something new might be better AND fear anything that is not made in their own country.... Wire nuts are still available here in The Netherlands but I haven't ever used them (35 years ago they were already old news here). They are horrible and the difference in expense is easily recovered in reduced costs of time/work they require.
@mrromantimothy4 жыл бұрын
@@jcagy2 yeah? The circuit isn't a wire, there's actually two wires with 110 volts, study ohm's law and electrical theory. It's good for you
@rjthomasindyusa4 жыл бұрын
Come on.... straighten out those screw heads on that outlet cover. I expect more from you. ; )
@antilogism3 жыл бұрын
No. Torque them to 5 in. lbs., then re torque after 50 kWh.
@trysten84714 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing the details. Much appreciated. Thank you for your hard work.
@specialtrades124 жыл бұрын
Just a quick note. Growing up doing small electrical projects, I was always taught to twist the wires together. When I worked for a commercial electrical contractor, I was told never to twist the wires together just use the wire nut until the wires started to twist and that's it. I never understood why not to also twist the wires together also.
@sugarbooty4 жыл бұрын
Personal preference, or maybe for when the next guy has to come in and fix your work haha
@ddloveddlove40734 жыл бұрын
Wish I had a dollar for every junction box I've worked in where un-twisted wires, over time, had loosened and the wire nut fell off the wires and caused arcing and a shock hazard. Your employers probably did it that way for speed.
@specialtrades124 жыл бұрын
@@ddloveddlove4073 yeah they cut corners a lot of other places too which is why I dont work there anymore. Plus I just wasnt into the commercial construction atmosphere for a couple bucks more than what i was making basically being my own boss.
@marcus93042 жыл бұрын
This make come from twisting stranded wire together. And speed of installation.
@sqike001ton3 жыл бұрын
The wago lever lock connectors are pretty good I did some work in the EU and they use them and seem to really like them i do t use them as there expensive but from what u was told they are alot more secure than wirenuts
@gophersgirl3 жыл бұрын
So does that mean is the tiny tabs that hold the wire in place in the wago will withstand a surge of amperage and not melt, vs the full gauge wires twisted together, hmmm
@sqike001ton3 жыл бұрын
@@gophersgirl a while back I watched a British guy do a non scientific test. where he put a boat load of current through a wire with different connectors and the wago lock held up. the wire failed before the connector. that's where I first heard of he wago connectors. like I said it wasn't scientific but it was good edivance that the connectors were decently strong and easier to use.
@arnewemken64163 жыл бұрын
@@gophersgirl look at the datasheet.
@sackgesicht43712 жыл бұрын
@@gophersgirl Yes it means exactly that.
@allenrousseau56683 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Thank you! I'm an electrician [30 yrs on my own] and basically anything that has a stab-just like you said has less surface area contact than the twisting the wires together and using a wire nut. I get lots of service calls-brand new homes-where an electrician plugs the wires into the back of a switch or outlet [I call this stab in connection] and that metal that has spring tension is lost over time from heating up and cooling down. Makes then an intermittant connection. It is the most common cause of intermittant power out of all the service call I go on. Also all wire nuts are not the same. I personally like the 3M products, I've seen wire nuts with the spring stay intact, and the plastic shell-melt-burn- or crack inside of a junction box. That is also why the junction boxes have a 2 hour burn rating, because hopefully by that time the circuit breaker will trip! Oh but thank you for identifying and clarifying this for someone doing it themselves! God bless! AL from CT.
@scruffy46473 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct about contact area. Most electrical failures are about some sort of loss of connection, be it a switch, receptacle, light, panelboard, etc. When wiring a receptacle with wiring feeding through, pigtail the wires. A whole lot better connection. If you use the screws, you are still daisy chaining through the bridge link on the receptacle. A pigtail connection eliminates this. Most wiring issues in dwellings are not about dead shorts but loose connections. The electrician's challenge. Even though it's not hardly ever done, it wouldn't hurt to check all of your connections at the panelboard. A lot of the breakers are what we call stab-loks. Most of the buss bars on panelboards are aluminum and the breakers stab into them. Breakers with failing springs will cause the aluminum tabs do break down and consequently loose connections. It all starts at the panelboard.
@darkelf199620023 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video and you may not see this but I have a question. I've run into a lot of ceiling fan remote receivers that have those tab (shark bite) things pre attached to the receiver. Would it be smart to cut them off and use a wire nut?
@miaknecht3 жыл бұрын
You can tell a handyman, but you can't tell him much ;) Generally love the videos, but yeah spring connectors have been used in industry for a very long time. Twisting wires prior to nutting them is a debate that will go on for eternity. A lot of wire nut manufacturers advise against twisting the wires.
@edvincent5564 жыл бұрын
Shark Bites of the electrical world. 😂 Handyman dropping the knowledge bombs.
@feelingtardy4 жыл бұрын
yeah, but i see shark bites everywhere, never seen those push in electrical connectors in the wild, lol
@theElderberryFarmer4 жыл бұрын
@@feelingtardy I've seen them frequently on can lights, right from the manufacturer. I'm an old-school guy - I prefer wire nuts.
@556guy44 жыл бұрын
I have only used the push connectors when I was doing lighting. Like replacing ballasts. I use wire nuts for electrical when I need to replace an outlet that had a bigger gauge than the new one.
@fixitwithzim4 жыл бұрын
Nice Channel, just found you today...Keep them coming!
@9HighFlyer94 жыл бұрын
Anyone else turn around to look at the refrigerator?
@conniepleasantnails4 жыл бұрын
🙋🏻♀️ guilty 😂
@sHorizonBand4 жыл бұрын
im in my car, sorry, no fridge here. so, nope, didnt turn around
@nevermindthebull0cks4 жыл бұрын
I keep wire nuts, wagos and leverlocks on the truck. The wagos are the most problem free. Especially with apprentice types making up boxes. They can clearly see inside the wagos to check themselves.
@bernardoprovenzanno94874 жыл бұрын
Dont forget to keep some K.O. plugs of diff. Sizes also for those apprentices..lol
@nevermindthebull0cks4 жыл бұрын
@@bernardoprovenzanno9487 lol. I do keep a box of 1/2 and 3/4 plugs and a decent selection of reducing rings for the bigger stuff. Every once in a while I tear out an extra ring...
@Methodical23 жыл бұрын
What's your thoughts on using the push connects with these LED recessed lights?
@christelting13593 жыл бұрын
That was a legitimate evaluation. I'll continue to use the push connectors although I'm seriously considering switching to the Wago levers. For the push ins I wouldn't trust generic china brands for the metal as you say. I feel that serious brand names will use the proper alloys. Further the UL has undoubtedly done tests on the metal and longevity. My gut says that they are designed to fail in a safe manor. I'm considering switching to Wago's simply for the ability to reuse them. I prefer the push-in's as they are smaller. What I would love to see in the electrical industry is a switch to deeper gang boxes.
@Joemama-km9np3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap talk about not getting to the point!
@samuelt20724 жыл бұрын
Seen wire nuts fail also. Been using push-in connecters for quite a while with no problem. Always be sure your connections are sound with either method.
@joshuaroars3 жыл бұрын
Wire nuts fail when you install them improperly. They only fail by user error. Using the wrong size, not twisting the copper together, putting to many wires in the same nut
@samuelt20723 жыл бұрын
@@darbyl3872 👍👍
@DEE-io9li3 жыл бұрын
The single outlet 220 is that for air compressors and heaters 240 volt I have one in my garage just wondering what I could use it for.
@cdawg91493 жыл бұрын
If your doing work in a customers house and dont trust the clip in connectors then obviously I wouldnt use them. But Ive used them in my home I rebuilt from ground up and so far have had no issues. Sometimes electricians and plumbers are set in their ways and refuse to use anything else except for what they have done for the past 20 - 30 years. I just worked with a plumber who helped me with a septic tank/leech field and walked away when he saw I was using the infiltrator tunnel for the leech field instead of the gravel /perf pipe leech field. He couldnt understand the concept and refused to listen to anyone including the infiltrator rep trying to explain it to him.
@hhiippiittyy3 жыл бұрын
Some of the old dudes I've worked with didn't like certain tools/hardware/systems because when they were first introduced decades ago they were poorly designed, and though they have been sorted, the old guys can't shake the memories of failure. Also, after years in trades, you see some things that come and go and some things that never change. And some people just don't like new things. There are all sorts. :)
@NongNongHead4 жыл бұрын
Install one, then have “handyman from the future” check it in 20 years... post results in your next video.
@Tumbleweed-vh4pt3 жыл бұрын
Heck just do what a lot of idiots do around these parts. Do a test circuit with those connections on a 15 amp circuit and then overload it and bump up to a 20 breaker so that it doesn't keep tripping. And then you might have the same effect as a 20 year old circuit in 6 months.
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments3 жыл бұрын
When you have an inch of 12 gauge sticking out and you have to connect two more wires to it with virtually no slack, the european style press in connectors are a lot easier
@Tumbleweed-vh4pt3 жыл бұрын
I have been in that situation and those muther chuckers are a lifesaver for a happy ending to the story.
@Seaoftea3 жыл бұрын
What about push connectors for grounds. I've had to cut crimps off of grounds and they seemed like the perfect thing to us instead of multiple pig tails.
@thetransitofvenus89274 жыл бұрын
Video looks pretty crisp, Handyman! Great work, as always!
@holdenafart73723 жыл бұрын
I use the push ones only when theres not enough wire or room in the box.
@warlok94 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but how many times have you opened a box to find wire nuts just laying inside the box with the twisted connection exposed. I've seen this hundreds of times but never ran across one of these wago connectors that failed or came loose. I believe them to be safer all around, so much so that if I go into a junction box and add a circuit, I will go ahead and replace all the wire nuts with wagos in that box because I don't want a call back.
@irfp4603 жыл бұрын
@Paradoxical Nightmare You only need grease when you use them on Al conductors. They will not come out, that just does not happen.
@richhagenchicago3 жыл бұрын
I was looking at those lever nuts when trying to figure out whether to let them be used. My thoughts are similar. if you are going to replace something that is proven to work over the long haul, such as proper wire nut connections, you need some good reason to do so. I have had a couple of fires in electrical boxes in old buildings over the years, fortunately contained by steel boxes, both could have been catastrophic. Post incident examination in each case revealed that they were caused by improper wire junctions, one without a wire nut, just twisted and taped by a contractor, and one with a spring type of nut inadequately bonding solid conductors which had been installed prior to our purchase of that property. In both cases the incidents occurred with high amperage loads applied, one a space heater and I don't recall the other. In neither case was an arc fault circuit interrupter in place. I have concerns about these lever nuts over the long haul with that clamp connection, I am wondering how it will stand up to oxidation in adverse environmental conditions over time. If resistance builds in the junction, heating arcing and a fire could result. I am concerned about joint resistance when used in retrofits on wires with an oxidized coating for the same reasons. Our current written policy for my properties requires all contractors to follow the NEC and additionally all state and local building / electrical codes. Over time I have added on clauses to further restrict how certain things are done that I have concerns about. These lever nuts are one of those. Our current policy is that they can not be used by employees or contractors except where a traditional wire nut is impractical due to space or work required to replace a box, such as GFCI upgrades in smaller boxes, and even for those situations, only in steel boxes and not without my specific authorization for that specific location, which must be noted on the plans or work order that are filed. That way, if those nuts are recalled or de-certified in the future, I know just where they are at. Our policy requires all wire nuts and on the add on specifically these lever connectors to be U.L. listed (such as the ideal brand lever connectors) as I trust the U.L. listing more than some imported CE or other mark that may or may not be legitimate anyway. Basically we don't use the lever connectors very much yet.