Katie Drummond, Wired’s global editorial director, joins 'Squawk Box' to discuss the magazine's investigation into AI search startup Perplexity.
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@ScenariosInAI2 ай бұрын
This CNBC guy is the absolute worst. Whenever I hear him talk about Tech he is the most consistently uninformed person and asks the dumbest questions.
@montymonto64302 ай бұрын
Amen.
@that_heretic2 ай бұрын
That's true about literally any topic. He's a well paid fool. People like him are exhibit A for our system not being a meritocracy at all.
@raghav2252 ай бұрын
This idiot wants AI to give unbiased answers
@dg-ov4cf2 ай бұрын
he got your click tho
@ri-jo2 ай бұрын
He reflects his generation. It’s important he is there
@bobbydelrio71972 ай бұрын
Perplexity is amazing. This is a hit piece funded by a competitor.
@skippy60862 ай бұрын
I think so too. It's just more about providing decent information rather than catering to some politically focused "journalists" biases.
@andrewdowdall2690Ай бұрын
This was my take away from this "interview" as well. Both Wired and CNBC are scared of becoming obsolete due to AI. Why do I need a journalist to gather information and give me their biased take on it? I can use AI and ask as many follow up questions as I like to understand what is happening. I also noticed that she said that AI is crawling parts of their site that they don't want it to look at. So this is 100% a hit piece to stop AI from sharing their information. And they don't want AI crawling parts of the web that they decide we shouldn't know about. GTF out of here.
@borisbalkan707Ай бұрын
I'm not sure how it's different than Bing copilot
@VilkoxАй бұрын
Lol. They sound butthurt. It’s a made up issue.
@PeterSedesse2 ай бұрын
Funny Joe used the phrase ' garbage in, garbage out' without realizing that is the truth, his query was garbage, so Perplexity gave him a garbage response.
@diyu36662 ай бұрын
Joe is like Biden in CNBC
@montymonto64302 ай бұрын
Presenter is not well informed. However when he says "garbage in" he is not referring to his query, but referring to source of AI data, the web and well there is a lot of garbage in it, no?
@mikezooper2 ай бұрын
Haha he said the AI had ego. This can only be projection because AI has no ego 😂
@mikezooper2 ай бұрын
He’s clueless. ChatGPT gives a well rounded response to the origins of Covid, far more balanced than him: “COVID-19, caused by the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, was first identified in Wuhan, China, in December 2019. The exact origins of the virus are still under investigation, but it is widely believed to have a zoonotic origin, meaning it was transmitted from animals to humans. The initial cluster of cases was linked to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, which also sold live wild animals. This has led to the theory that the virus might have originated in bats and possibly passed through an intermediary animal host before infecting humans. However, conclusive evidence regarding the specific animal source and the pathway of transmission to humans has not yet been established, and research continues in this area.”
@PeterSedesse2 ай бұрын
@@montymonto6430 but that is only if you are quering about things that are opinion. At the end he revealed the truth. He was asking about a COVID conspiracy theory, and then was mad when Perplexity shot down his conspiracy theory and gave the real facts. That was his entire reason for shooting down Perplexity. Because it didn't reinforce his false beliefs, he wanted Newsmax and didn't get it.
@BlizzardzRS2 ай бұрын
Perplexity is a great product. Sounds like the presenter didn’t like the answer he got when he searched for himself.
@LaSombraa2 ай бұрын
I just used it and it’s pretty cool
@DavidePena_DFO2 ай бұрын
totally agree, the host is a total idiot... I use perplexity and it works great! The guy don't know what he's talking about
@krishnanjanareddygangiredd1468Ай бұрын
Garbage in, garbage out 🤣
@wonsunparque47882 ай бұрын
Why is the host so angry? All of these AI tools explicitly say that it can be inaccurate.
@ashwinkumar6752 ай бұрын
They all hold a lot of Google stock and are scared 🤣
@tysoncodes2 ай бұрын
The issue is that he works for a media company and Perplexity has not been as kind as google when it comes to addressing the established patterns related to crawling copyrighted content. Media companies are not happy Perplexity will draw content from their platforms without paying or crediting them to the degree they would like.
@MrMountain7072 ай бұрын
@@ashwinkumar675 CNBC employees can only hold broad ETFs
@floroos2 ай бұрын
@@MrMountain707 but not their family members and friends
@MrMountain7072 ай бұрын
@@floroos I did not know that lol
@furtherpictures81812 ай бұрын
Disagree. This is almost hit-piece level unbalanced. Perplexity has been super useful for me. And it footnotes all sources, doens't just scrape reddit. It's a great product.
@spektred2 ай бұрын
Agreed. He's being paid under the table by ChatGPT.
@devoch20312 ай бұрын
Ok bot
@Saracen0072 ай бұрын
Aravind is that you
@hugooc2 ай бұрын
Def a hit piece. That much is obvious. Also obvious is that Grandpa Joe forgot his meds this morning.
@andresmarchena63622 ай бұрын
Google is also good
@nocodeexplorer2 ай бұрын
The anchor seems to not know what he is talking about
@vestasharp686122 күн бұрын
He and Biden are about the same age and have similar mental functions.
@hollywoodambience2 ай бұрын
why is this guy on TV?
@hugooc2 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@Did_you_know4482 ай бұрын
Oldies should stick to blueberry and Siemens phones.. pure trash talk
@vestasharp686122 күн бұрын
@@Did_you_know448 I think he is still using typewriters and fax machines. He is the type who can not set the timer on a VCR.
@wm67462 ай бұрын
Joe is a terrible interviewer. He has no idea what a.i does, he himself spew misinformation all the time😂😂😂😂
@kohlkohlbrenner33492 ай бұрын
What an odd interview.
@slytherben2 ай бұрын
Perplexity is my favorite. It gives me the best results. Someone funded a hit piece
@gouthamgv2 ай бұрын
Why is it confusing? This seems like a coordinated effort to bring down perplexity
@dg-ov4cf2 ай бұрын
They must figure google will bless their SEO rankings for kissing the ring
@dennismajor12 ай бұрын
I agree it does feel like a hit job. I very rarely have any complaint with my perplexity search results.
@borisbalkan707Ай бұрын
Probably because you're a sheep
@picola312 ай бұрын
If it’s “garbage in garbage out”, then if you go directly to the information source, it’s still garbage. Only now you’ve spent precious brain cycles having to look through ads to get to it. I don’t use Perplexity to find the right answer immediately, I use Perplexity to help me get closer to the right answer more efficiently without having to do manual searches and looking at irrelevant content.
@andrewdowdall2690Ай бұрын
Exactly! I think that both Wired and CNBC are scared of becoming obsolete due to AI. Why do I need a journalist to gather information and give me their biased take on it? I can use AI and ask as many follow up questions as I like to understand what is happening. I you're a smart person, then you can ask AI the right questions and sift through the garbage. If you ask a 4 or 5 word question and expect a perfect answer without any further research or questions, then you're just an idiot. This CNBC guy is an idiot.
@gerarddemers74452 ай бұрын
I stopped after 2:31 into the video. To quote him "I was looking for sentience" and found he had none.
@otuedonuduaghan71732 ай бұрын
I had to check the comments because I use perplexity all the time and I love it. So to call it trash makes no sense whatsoever 😂.
@tvm738272 ай бұрын
Joe has given us a demo of how a discussion between Luddites would look like. There is an ongoing bet in the AI community on whether Joe will be replaced by a bot before his natural retirement.
@dgaz30572 ай бұрын
I hope thats soon, he's such a moron.
@hugooc2 ай бұрын
Might not work. AI chat bots aren't that angry (or clueless).
@tvm738272 ай бұрын
@@hugooc 😂
@neelanpather2 ай бұрын
This feels like a hit job. Perplexity is great! It is a thoughtfully designed knowledge discovery engine. It's for the curious!
@ahsanmohammed12 ай бұрын
Was the old man was whining?
@hugooc2 ай бұрын
He wants us off his lawn.
@ahsanmohammed12 ай бұрын
@@hugooc 😄
@ommanipadmehung3014Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@srujandesi92 ай бұрын
What ever thr topic is on the planet. Joe manages to make it political. 😂
@SenseiBlue2 ай бұрын
While reminding us of the clown we know him to be 🤡
@jamesaspinwall2 ай бұрын
It is odd that attack on Perplexity by CNBS. The anchor admits he doesn't know much, then jumps to the valuation that has nothing to do with the criticism on quality of the product. I use many of the LLMs, and I like Perplexity because it reads searched web pages and present a summary of the sources. If you don't trust or like a source, you can tell Perplexity to ignore it. The additional followup questions at the bottom is quite helpful too.
@MegaLeoben2 ай бұрын
The presenter just convinced me to purchase a perplexity subscription where I wasn’t going to before. 😂
@jasonturner32342 ай бұрын
These tech experts can't even explain what is wrong with the product. He probably asked what color is the shirt that i'm wearing right now? and it gave him 10 different colors and told him where to buy it.
@PeterSedesse2 ай бұрын
He said the truth at the end. He is a conspiracy theorist and gets angry when AI doesn't support his conspiracies. That is what the whole segment was about.
@lppoqql2 ай бұрын
Wow, thats harsh even for wall street.
@mikestirewalt51932 ай бұрын
The fellow's description doesn't compute. Perplexity was recommended to me this morning by someone with a very wide grasp of the digital world and with my very brief experience today I'm finding Perplexity very different from the fellow's description in this YT video above. Unrecognizable, actually.
@Yeahyeah-ic8xm2 ай бұрын
Dear CNBC, this interview was a catastrophe. The host interrupted the guest on numerous times to make irrelevant points that do not reflect the Perplexity product. He should not speak on technology. Even at its base use of “summarizing ‘Google’ results” that is a huge time saver and the host is missing the value. Would you rather run 20 Google searches and read 50 articles or have an AI do it for you? As alluded to by the guest, Wired (Conde Nast) has a bone to pick against perplexity as they do not want their content being used to train an AI. With an interview like this, you should interview someone from Perplexity as well to defend against the accusations. It could be that the wired site was misconfigured or used as a honeypot to wield against Perplexity. Please work on the quality of your journalism.
@louielouie6842 ай бұрын
Note to CNBC: Your viewers expect relevant , accurate information that keeps them up to date on new Technology not misinformation spewed by an out of date out of his element host who seems to fit the mold of a FOX NEWS cast member. I was expecting to hear him say "What in tarnation is this ?" at any moment .
@craig25102 ай бұрын
If this is what corporate media has to say about it, it must be awesome.
@hondajacka22 ай бұрын
This interviewer barely let the guest talk. It was mostly his own angry ramblings.
@vestasharp686122 күн бұрын
He wants people off his lawn.
@BB-fp6gh2 ай бұрын
Haha.. sounded like Joe asked AI about himself and reddit answers didn’t disappoint.
@hugooc2 ай бұрын
Truth
@alexanderwalter45952 ай бұрын
Joe Kernan has turned into a right-wing mouthpiece over the last 8 years, since Trump first ran. Thank god Bloomberg TV exists as an unbiased source of financial news. Whenever Kernan is on CNBC, I change the channel to Bloomberg. Kernan seems to forget that Democrats buy stocks too. I just wish that the producers at CNBC who keep him on the air would understand that too.
@JoeS977562 ай бұрын
yeap, can't stand him. He hardly does homework and his questions are poor.
@KK-pm7ud2 ай бұрын
And Bloomberg poached Joumanna from CNBC.
@zt21552 ай бұрын
I've never heard of Wired but Perplexity is great.
@hugooc2 ай бұрын
🤣 True. Grandpa loves Wired. Now get off my lawn!
@sunchan42022 ай бұрын
Makes me wonder about their motives. What I got from this is stay away from CNBC and WIRED. Perplexity is great.
@shumitm2 ай бұрын
I am a perplexity user it is amazing not sure what they are talking about. Seems like they have an agenda …
@ispinola2 ай бұрын
He seems mad that he didn’t get the answers he was looking for.
@JonathanMichaelJM2 ай бұрын
This CNBC host needs to be replaced with an intelligent AI host that actually understands AI. "I expect sentience" - What?!
@PeterSedesse2 ай бұрын
If you ask it opinion questions you are going to get opinion answers. Joe definitely asked it " do people like me "... For technical or fact based stuff Perplexity is amazing..
@kisstock2 ай бұрын
She has a valid point.
@ednan92 ай бұрын
Yep
@anthonygolden12692 ай бұрын
He wouldn't let her speak , just forced his opinion down the audience's throat.
@artdesignfashionАй бұрын
So: wired lady agree that perplexity is "garbage in garbage out" because perplexity scanned wired magazine? Does it mean that the wired thing is garbage?
@kamu7472 ай бұрын
Did he just say, "I'm looking for sentience?" My gosh.
@saravanampatti1Ай бұрын
If you dont want to disclose information , please store it in your secret wallet. Not in the public domain. What non-sense is this.
@robertjohansson28Ай бұрын
What is this man doing on this topic?
@mrtienphysics6662 ай бұрын
Please pin this page when 'AI' crash. This guy is so frank because he has not invested any money like the rest.
@markmonfort292 ай бұрын
the fact he also says that whats the point of AI if you have to check it... well Joe, if something used to take analysts an hour to do but takes the AI seconds and analyst now spends 5 minutes checking the work so that they can use 55 minutes to do more higher value stuff, that's pretty valuable to a lot of businesses
@MrMountain7072 ай бұрын
Perplexity is great. I use it every day
@anamuslim67002 ай бұрын
Perplexity Bots and persons of interest have taken over the comment section.
@sp1232 ай бұрын
It's becoming more obvious that bots have taken over the Internet every day
@hayekianman2 ай бұрын
there is no muslim called ana anywhere.
@CM-zj5ys2 ай бұрын
How is it garbage or BS? They give you answers and cite the source. Kernan is confused again.
@leongchanteikАй бұрын
Oh man, there can't be a TV host who is so far behind the knowledge curve as this one.
@yashpatel31235 күн бұрын
Can't believe CNBC allowed this. This guy should never be allowed to report on tech news! He has absolutely no idea what he is saying!
@senju20242 ай бұрын
Funny conversation of a non-tech guy trying to have a conversation with a highly skilled tech lady. Her big words just flew right pass his head. LOL
@JeffRadcliffeАй бұрын
Perplexity is awesome. It's not confusing and it's not difficult to figure out how to work. These people are idiots.
@MyChannel-hy8mb27 күн бұрын
Why is it okay for Google to use their journalism in its search results, but not okay for Perplexity?
@tchadcarby84392 ай бұрын
To everyone watching this video I would absolutely love your opinion on if this is a Hit Job on Perplexity or not.
@hugooc2 ай бұрын
Hit job.
@RahulGupta-uk1gc2 ай бұрын
hit job
@o__sama2 ай бұрын
HHAHAHAHHA, AI is overvalued & overhyped & a big hot bubble, anyone with a brain can clearly see that. only pumpers say otherwise
@sp1232 ай бұрын
Hedge funds are desperate to invest in something
@theadameubanksАй бұрын
really cringe how he keeps cutting her off
@FleyDragonАй бұрын
Perplexity is advertised as an AI search engine so of course all it does is search the internet. It does all the searching for you and then compiles the information it finds. I use it often for basic things I'm curious about or for gaming information. I agree it does make mistakes sometimes, but if you're not sure about something it says, or if you want to double check something it provides all of its sources.
@cunghocmicrosoftsql13142 ай бұрын
Did Google pay CNBC to downplay Perplexity? I think so.
@Schenker012 ай бұрын
It was the first thing I thought. And also to Wired, they wrote the original article.
@digvijaylamba9650Ай бұрын
“Perplexity is confusing”. Really? Most developers of AI chat bots can’t figure out why their LLMs give the answers they do, and here is Perplexity citing its sources and people find it confusing. I don’t think this reporting is credible.
@MindHungerАй бұрын
I just tried Perplexity. I tried asking it very basic engineering questions and it consistently gave me wrong answers and presented those wrong answers very convincingly.
@derekthomas8952Ай бұрын
Perplexity is amazing and almost always gives accurate information in a much better way than any other product. This analysis of Perplexity is garbage in garbage out.
@925wealthАй бұрын
Lol this guy has a personal vendetta against perplexity or something? He was very harsh in his word.
@marcthomas98062 ай бұрын
Never saw perplexity site reddit.
@shmookinsАй бұрын
*cite.
@Hart-en-ZielАй бұрын
I like how solid and accurately Katie responds, even while the CNBC guy is extremely biased and also seems to be the “I’m shouting the loudest, so I’m important” kinda guy. He’s not knowledgeable enough to lead.
@MrWilliamCapone2 ай бұрын
This is so biased. Perplexity is excellent
@abhisekupadhyaya112 ай бұрын
Perhaps CNBC and Wired should work harder and focus on finding hosts who can deliver information better than Perplexity and appointing a global editorial director who can produce articles better than a chat bot called Perplexity rather than whining. The race with AI is on guys, and it's time to step up the game. Atleast perform better than it before complaining how bad it is. I love to read good articles but Perplexity seems to be doing better journalism than journalist here.
@paulgilliland29922 ай бұрын
Meta is essentially doing the same thing . Ask it any question and it will scrape various websites and formulate a response quoting their source at the bottom. Yesterday Meta AI actually gave me two wrong answers.
@JulioBarrancoGalavizАй бұрын
I have used perplexity and now is my default to find factual information. I have stopped using Google that is plagued by sponsored links.
@caneprintsАй бұрын
It is obvious that the moderator does not truly understand how Perplexity works. If he did, he would recognize that with Perplexity, you can search using many different models to get a more nuanced response. If he is just using the default model, he is really not using Perplexity in the best way possible. Of all the AI projects out there, you are more likely to get a balanced response from Perplexity because you have so many different models to pick from. Legal issues will be hashed out in court, but as for me, Perplexity gets a big thumbs up.
@zupinu20002 ай бұрын
the host is definitely talking like a boomer
@mattychou2 ай бұрын
This fails to note Perplexity cites all sources used to generate answers , it’s not garbage when the sources are cited from reliable sources including medical journals for example
@vineetnair7679Ай бұрын
Perplexity is by far the most useful Ai tool because it allows us to have any LLM with a single subscription and it also provides accurate answers by going over the Internet and siting sources. What’s this old man whining about?
@ashutoshdeshpande52364 күн бұрын
This should be reported for misinformation.
@hsachin2 ай бұрын
The Wired’s grief is that Perplexity scraped the data and not about quality and trying to go after them with the article.
@dlinyvrАй бұрын
“Reddit chatboard” You just gave up all credibility when you said that statement bud. Also doesn’t help your case when you admit “you don’t use” ai tech much.
@MaitlandJones17 күн бұрын
Did a double take seeing this title after Perplexity just saved my ass.
@kaimorf62092 ай бұрын
Wow:). Clearly has never used it. Because it’s excellent.
@user-xj5gz7ln3q2 ай бұрын
Old, dying media attacking new media. :) I think there's a bit of professional jealousy going on here.
@SeanpfreeАй бұрын
Sounds like Perplexity is taking market share from their own investments.
@SK-so5nj2 ай бұрын
Why is this particular company being targeted? There are so many other chat based offering out there including ChatGPT that spew out nonsense and uses editorial content to built answers but they chose this one.
@stevelee6137Ай бұрын
This is what Lazy Journalism looks like. The point of Perplexity is to bring together everything on the web with the sources. It's a research tool. Now in Wired's case it is a known fact that the problem with Perplexity is who will and will not allow Perplexity gather information. Wired has a right to not allow these platforms to access information.
@goldnarms435Ай бұрын
He has no idea what he's talking about.
@fabsgiova1597Ай бұрын
Why does he get so emotional about something he himself defines as garbage
@sridhar1252 ай бұрын
Your repirt is BS and super biased. Perplexity is pretty awesome.
@dennismajor12 ай бұрын
My experience has been that Perplexity always supplies source links and also almost always warns where warnings seem to be needed - either the commentator is out of his depth big time (most likely) or less likely it's hit job..
@mcnerdimam33542 ай бұрын
Train of thought: - What if i searched covid? - What if it says covid jumped from one animal? - It could do that - Are any of them fair at this point Epic logical reasoning from this genius.
@renegadepuppy2 ай бұрын
Let me do a step by step rebuttal. 1. First, Google has been in the search business for far longer than perplexity but their AI-enabled previews are qualitatively worse than Perplexity. There is hallucination in Perplexity but it hallucinates to a lesser extent than Google's feature which I must say was so that they can compete with Perplexity. 2. Isn't what Joe is saying and the Wired piece actually opposite. Joe says Perplexity uses garbage data to train on stuff like reddit posts. If that is true, then it is not a threat to websites owned by Wired's owner Condé Nast as they produce legitimate websites I assume or at least what the Wired reporter would like to say. So, if Perplexity is using genuine websites, then Joe's argument is wrong. If Perplexity is only using "junk websites" as according to Joe, then the Wired lady does not have anything to worry about. They should first discuss what they are agreeing on before ranting. Is the topic: Perplexity is bad and hallucinates, or is it Perplexity broke the robots.txt norm of scraping/crawling. 3. For Joe, it seems like he is feeling personally threatened that Perplexity is good. If Perplexity is bad, then like all startups which give unsatisfactory results, it will perish irrespective of who funds them. 4. So Wired has a bone to pick with Perplexity so their piece is not an objective piece then. If this was coming out of another company (TechCrunch or Verge), one can listen to their argument. But if it comes from Ars Technica or Wired both owned by Condé Nast, then there is conflict of interest in how they will present the case for Perplexity. 5. Last but not the least, robots.txt is still seem as proper etiquette and in the US, the 9th circuit court had considered following robots.txt as terms of service/agreement of web use but had not sided with the aggrieved website in a past case. So, there is no clear legal precedence in US law which would guarantee that Perplexity is 100% legally wrong even if it is proven that they did do what Wired is alleging. Their investigation at this point has no meaning to any neutral party.
@KK-pm7ud2 ай бұрын
Conde Nast does have a reasonable point. Joe is just off the rails.
@barbarajbrown2758Ай бұрын
AI needs to be empircally validated. It hasn't achieved independent measurement validation, He is just responding the way any skeptic would reasonably respond.
@KazMogiАй бұрын
This story smells fishy. I've found it to be the best AI search tool out there. It makes it easy to look at its sources and ask follow up questions. Was this story sponsored by Copilot? Is the anchor's job threatened by AI? Dude's so frustrated.
@rajaparameswaran1119Ай бұрын
He was looking for sentience and perplexed he didn't find any! CNBC and their reporters needs some, no doubt.
@DavidKolbSantoshАй бұрын
I find Perplexity to be an excellent tool for research, for grasping deep profound philosophical concept, making connections. Just everything you want in an AI toll, the collection feature to keep your past thread organized for easy reference is a great addition!
@jordan24502 ай бұрын
Gotta love these hit pieces. He said all you need to know at 2:35 when he gushed over Googles' brilliance. Perplexity absolutley is a useful AI tool that is threatening Google because it answers questions with cited sources vs Google just providing search reaults.
@mok9992 ай бұрын
I’m perplexed at their take on Perplexity Ai. So far, I find it to be the best of all of them out there. It hallucinates way less than any of the ChatGPT models.
@Chris-se3nc2 ай бұрын
This guy is getting angry that AI is getting close to taking journalism jobs like his
@woof2010woof2 ай бұрын
Hit piece. perplexity is not BS. Katie Drummond is BS
@maedux2 ай бұрын
This guy is a demonstration of why ignorance and arrogance is such a bad mix.
@iraklimachabeli66592 ай бұрын
Both the host and the guest have absolutely no idea what that are talking about
@orthodox_gentlemanАй бұрын
Watson seriously made a mistake that big? I was possibly looking into Watson for my company but after seeing how much they are charging I am shocked and even more shocked to learn they are charging that kind of money for errors! These models need to have a logic engine at the last mile to the user to verify and confirm the information. Hell it could write its own logic code. I think the problem is our RAG methods we are using, cutting things into chunks causes context loss.
@Trancer006Ай бұрын
I love Perplexity. This dude doesn't know what he's saying. If he was smart enough to prove the virus didn't come from the wet market, they'd make him a researcher, he wouldn't be sitting on his ass blabbering on TV. Also you can literally ask Perplexity to give you 10-20 different arguments about any hot topic, if you wanna be as unbiased as possible. Though I'll say Perplexity worries me a little bit with the way they crawl data, they step on some lines they shouldn't be. They'll be in legal trouble soon.
@louielouie6842 ай бұрын
Thats not what Ai is and it certainly not just googling and putting lifted phrases from its search together to form content / responses. This host is clueless.