Well that or he's a serious pervert.

There is no good, no kindness, no mercy. There is only Steven King.

ObadiahtheSlim him writing that scene in general for whatever reason makes me 100% sure he has fucking problems

Deity Saturn, yeah he was on the cocaine

Diddly Widdly like I said whatever it may be, fucking problems

WOOOORD!!!

04:11

Did that actually happen

@@connerscruggsvlogz2113 in the book, yeah...

Ew, think I'll give this one a pass.

Not Jesus facts, dude sound like a hood Gilbert Godfrey

Made me reach for a lozenge just by listening to it for eleven minutes.

I guess he learned from the master. Voit from Chicago P.D.!

it felt so good to turn this comment from 999likes to 1k

@@GiorgioGiovana very satisfying.

TheICEgirl6100 someone went back and looked at the reviews of the book at the time it was published and they found that that scene was rarely referenced. So weird. I think when the book gained a teenage/YA readership, “the scene” gained the notoriety it has today. (I sure as hell was messed up by it when I read it at 12.) It’s funny. It kinda goes along with the book’s theme of adults not noticing things that kids/teens DEFINITELY pick up on.

Kids Stephen. You were writing about kids.

Ruby, this novel wasn't written by the character. It was written by King and he is the one who created the very internal logic and premise of the act in the novel you cite as a reason for people not to find it dubious. No. it does not work like that. King is a grown man writing a scene like this in a book and so the complaint is that and not if the character he wrote to want the act is the one who should determine the merit of the act. it's like saying it's okay that a writer creates a scene of abuse because in the novel the character wanted it............oh....wait.

In King's defence, Bev was strangely sexualised throughout the whole book. Bev's description of the perfect donger was the first description I ever read. Her husband is abusive and I vaguely remember a scene with Bev and her dad that made me _wait wut_ as well as the sewer incident.. and maybe also gossip that she might be a bit of a ho? Then again, I also remember that Henry covers his belly button because Henry is a big boy and there are probably other unnecessarily sexual scenes or undertones at times. Perhaps King is confused about we fixate on just that ONE scene, when there's plenty of others to choose from too. Other than a disturbing layer of character development, the sexual stuff doesn't really add anything of substance to the story so I can see why they would leave it out of retellings. That and the whole 'really creepy' thing. I'd like to think that King was trying to play on invoking visceral disgust in back of the reader's mind, to enhance the fear in the story with some subconscious negative emotions. I'd really like to think that..

@@doubtfulguest5450 "In defense of King's gross child sex scene, he over-sexualized children throughout the whole book" - You

"So after an assembly line of that FREAK NASTY...."😅

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Did the turtle tell em to do that?

A train, not a gang bang 😂

Come back Thug

What happened to him? Do you Know? I miss him:c

@@hobi8385 i think I saw that thug notes is on Amazon Prime or something like that

I think it's a podcast on Spotify now...I still miss the KZfaq ones, the podcast just doesn't live up to the standard

Yess!!! Come back

MrLittleSam can't be a man till you have sex lol

Ive seen that thrown around, but i reread the book a while ago and it doesnt really come across that way. Bill is thinking when theyre lost in the tunnels that they lost some kind of power that held them together during that summer. And beverlys thought that only their love to one another would bring them out of the sewers hence the gangbang. Your explanation makes more sense but thats not really how it goes down. What really happened could easily be left out of the book and not make much of a difference to the story.

There are so many follow up questions for that...explanation

MrLittleSam they’re pre-teens. No amount of sex is going to turn them into adults. It’s really fucked up that he included it honestly.

I didn't have to fight a monster to become an adult. Didn't have to have sex either. It was a combination of taking risks and taking responsibility for the consequences of those risks.

Nathan s lmao I was out 🤣🤣🤣

IT is far and away King's best book, and it should be considered one of the greatest American novels of the 20th century.

@@jonathanw1019 never read the stand have you

@@trappx2 I tried at one point. Was not a fan. That might have come from watching the TV movie before attempting it, so I knew the rough plot. IT always had far more familiarity to me in terms of themes, and I think it has far more familiarity in terms of American Culture and history as well. I get that people like the Stand though and I should probably give it another go.

I've read a rumor that IT was written in a 15 hour coke and whiskey bender. No rest, no sleep, just coked out of his mind pounding away at his typewriter for 15 straight hours. King has never stated this was true but never denied it either. I think his answer was something like, "it's possible".

@@purplegorilla9592 I'd like to believe the coke whiskey bender thing, which could certainly be true, but 1100 pages in 15 hours? That's over a page a minute. If it's whiskey and coke, 15 hours isn't even that long. Let's double or triple that. I could see two days straight. That might actually explain the last 200 pages.

Nezzen Our universe was made when that turtle vomitted it out after a stomach ache. Also, that turtle had died by choking on a galaxy by the time the kids grew up. Just saying that it gets weirder.

To be fair it's like a metaphysical tongue chewing. But yeah, fucking wierd

Nezzen To quote another King book "The Wasteland", "See the turtle, ain't he keen? All things serve the fucking beam."

Nezzen It is an eldritch horror, like something out of Lovecraft. As for the rest of the crazy, it was about this time King discovered cocaine.

Nezzen king was real high back then, im talking all types of drugs cocaine eccspecially

ocsar tobi what

Technically, not. IT takes around 50 hours to read in audio format. The Bible takes 72.

ocsar tobi m

Regular King James Bible is like 780,000 words, IT is about 440,000...I know I was THAT curious.

ocsar tobi Word count on my copy of It was 1000+, maybe close to 1100. Bible's longer than that.

Stephen King was so intoxicated during that period that he can't even recall writing that scene.

Skelecat ikr this is fucked up

Yes can they please come back😭

Ooooh. Yeeees.

Hell yeah

gagejoseph91 man, this remake of How the Grinch Stole Christmas is weird.

I heard he was on drugs when he wrote this

Tae Aubrey Really Bad off on booze and cocaine.

Is this really part of the book?

yes

pyronixe It started to feed once man showed up. Before that It slept.

Feed IT derry. IT is lactose intolerant? Then feed IT dairy. XD

He actually wrote the majority of it while he was struggling with alcoholism and cocaine addition

Matthew Cupelli that explains a LOT

I️ thought he was an alcoholic

+North West's What makes you think that's an either/or situation?

coke, amphetamines, alcohol AND benzos.

You say that like it's a bad thing! Was probably the good stuff with light steps!

North West's Baby Hairs both. It is both xD both all the coke and all the alcohol

😭😆😂

*FACTS*

Well, one of them is FAR more unusual.

It means we don't talk about something clearly outlined in the book as a disturbing thing (child murders) but we do talk about something disturbing that's clearly outlined as a good thing (child orgies). But I promise you if the book tried to show child murder as a good thing, it would be controversial too.

Brokenwingedheart context!

It doesn't help that the book is about child murders, we expect it. Villains doing evil things, not a shock. Scary yes, but the very idea is expected. What we don't expect is children fucking, and it keeps going.

Yes Stephen because the clown is killing the kids but he didnt fuck em

This should be a televised program

I had to clear my throat after reading this lol

That phrase was more of a metaphors; Derry isn't literally a form of IT. What they meant was that Derry is how it is because of IT's influence, and he's been there since the beginning. Derry feed's off of IT just as much as IT feeds off of Derry

@@VampireObssessed I get what yo mean, yeah I think Derry is so influenced by IT in evil ways that Derry might as well be another form of IT

Alexis Carroué PLEASE

I agree!!!! And Phantom of the Opera, the Hunchback of Notre Dame, he reviewed Count of Monte Cristo why not the Three Muscketeer and The man in the Iron Mask.

that would be stellar

Yes!!!

Alexis Carroué Hell yes!!!

The Shining is definitely one of his better books.

Benjamin Abramowitz Weird. Didn't they already do one on it?

cool profile pic, ben. 10/10

first thing I saw

Yes, and it'll save you the trouble of bothering with that horribly written book.

Nice pic, tho I like Oracular Spectacular more

CardcaptorsRULES that....I don't know what to make of that.

I think they're talking about the gang-bang...

He was going to abuse her in the book, and in some weird gross way both Bev and her dad knew this. Stephen King at his finest, folks.

Very late reply, but he definitely was planning to abuse her once she hit puberty. The mere fact that her mother suspected that and asked her about it is evidence enough that there definitely was something going on

Very good point, I feel like people weren't paying attention when reading the book, or just watched the movie and ignored the book altogether.

It was certainly hinted at. It often goes w alcoholism, but it's NOT causal. Besides, why would her mother ASK for no reason? They don't normally do anything to stop the abuse.

MDavis24 me too!!!!

Yup!

Yo same!

M12GProductions not much depth to it is there?

Variklis Woods not really? I don't really see a deep message in that short story.

M12GProductions phantoms by kuntz

William Glass no because it sucks

William Glass I second this. This, or Watership Down.

S Makhanya Both great books in their own rights.

Not well known enough. But yes I am aware of it.

Yes make it happen

Though it would be awesome the issue with epics is that they're a series of episodes, each of them worth a world of interpretation on their own.

Jaydoggy531 he did do the Odyssey tho

Fro licious Try Overly Sarcastic Productions on KZfaq They, sarcastically explain the whole story of various pieces literature, including The Odyssey, Paradise Lost, The Aeneid, Shakespeare's works, The Divine Comedy, and etc

This is not English it is Ebonics. It's the difference between Mexican Spanish, Cuban Spanish and Spanish Spanish.

U don't need to know about all the detail ;). You will understand one day.

Heimar Mendoza Keep watching KZfaq. My little cousins are native Arabic speakers and they learned a lot of English through KZfaq.

@@wereberius9201 True.

Sameeeee I struggle a lot when people come to my work using slang

The "king" of pedophillic novels

David Levy no fuck the ‘king’ who writes about 11 year olds having a gangbang

Damn we can’t talk bout that shit, she only 11

David Levy shut up loser

King a shit

The orgy makes sense in the context of the plot (not justifying it though), and when King wrote It it was early 1980s it wasn't such a taboo subject.

Rooney I second that request. Great idea!

Great choice ^

Yass!

Very inspiring tale.

William Glass no fuck you

Either that or Darkness at Noon, by Arthur Koestler. Usually I'd not be optimistic about something critical of socialism seeing the light of day on a KZfaq channel like this, but he did review The Fountainhead a while ago. (A book I am personally not much of a fan of, truth be told, but I will take what I can get in 2017.)

Azmorph Bruh, you're the one commenting how many days later?

jolyn_ art XD

LIT

It's Lit(erature)!

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