The Philosophy of Paul Thomas Anderson

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Licorice Pizza: What is PTA really saying?
Paul Thomas Anderson feels almost indecipherably brilliant at times. But some regular themes in his work keep cropping up that we thought were worth discussing in light of his latest work, Licorice Pizza. Specifically, the joys and problems of found family. So join us for this Wisecrack Edition about Paul Thomas Anderson On Found Family.
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00:00 Intro
02:00 Paul Thomas Anderson Overview
04:03 PTA, Family, and Capitalism
06:26 There Will Be Blood
08:17 The Master
10:51 Boogie Nights
11:41 Punch Drunk Love
12:35 Salesmen Characters
13:39 Child Characters
14:50 Conclusion
Written by Amanda Scherker and Michael Burns
Hosted by Michael Burns
Directed by Elizabeth Yarwood
Edited by Andrew Nishimura
Produced by Evan Yee
Production Coordination by Olivia Redden
Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound
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@Snarl_Marx
@Snarl_Marx 2 жыл бұрын
A whole episode about my all time favorite director? I'm so here for it.
@datingzonel1424
@datingzonel1424 2 жыл бұрын
BRATTY SIS CHANNEL baby-girls.id/angelina Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter" Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy . Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım'' Erinder: ''Sezimdüü'' Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak'' Dene: ''Muzdak'' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾
@StolenFortunes
@StolenFortunes 2 жыл бұрын
Paul Thomas Anderson's Fast and the Furious WHEN.
@johnthemangood8700
@johnthemangood8700 2 жыл бұрын
Please let it happen 🙏
@StolenFortunes
@StolenFortunes 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnthemangood8700 Cause him and Vin know "It's about Family"
@johnthemangood8700
@johnthemangood8700 2 жыл бұрын
@@StolenFortunes whoooaaaaooo
@jqyhlmnp
@jqyhlmnp 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading once pta was in failed talks to make a Disney Pinocchio movie… but that’s the closest we’ll get to a “mainstream” pta film…
@datingzonel1424
@datingzonel1424 2 жыл бұрын
BRATTY SIS CHANNEL baby-girls.id/angelina Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter" Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy . Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım'' Erinder: ''Sezimdüü'' Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak'' Dene: ''Muzdak'' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾
@MrIrrationalSmith
@MrIrrationalSmith 2 жыл бұрын
God I love PTA's movies. I'm privileged to live in a time/place to witness them.
@carsonbassi6371
@carsonbassi6371 2 жыл бұрын
he glorified pedophilia in licorice pizza…
@elonnakamato2134
@elonnakamato2134 2 жыл бұрын
@@carsonbassi6371 im kind of conflicted cos what i got from the movie is deglorifying the 70s to show how fucked they were and how easily u could get away with it. So he uses the setting to be able to put forward a super weird relationship and other stuff like cops getting away with beating up an innocent guy and act like nothing happened
@carstereobandits
@carstereobandits 2 жыл бұрын
"Punch that subscribe button like you're using a bowling pin to kill a preacher!" lol
@ericrscastillo5358
@ericrscastillo5358 2 жыл бұрын
After you subscribe: Im finished
@noahhenning96
@noahhenning96 2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the tracking shot of Jack Horner walking around the house it cemented what Boogie Nights is really about
@blozzom2
@blozzom2 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much -for preparing something that's so well stated and presented and researched!
@angelsanroma6089
@angelsanroma6089 2 жыл бұрын
What an excellent analysis!
@MaxPowers1245
@MaxPowers1245 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched loved it felt like PTA was having more fun than he’s had since boogie nights
@Red1Ahmed
@Red1Ahmed 2 жыл бұрын
I effin' love how wisecrack lately in many of their videos stealthily brings up capitalism, neoliberalism and its respective dichotomies to educate us about the socioeconomic structures we all inhabit in both stories and in reality
@BruceWayne-zj1kw
@BruceWayne-zj1kw 2 жыл бұрын
Stealthily, huh? Like there wasn’t a moment in the video where the word CAPITALISM popped up in big bright letters? Very stealthy, ninja-like.
@Alaskan-Armadillo
@Alaskan-Armadillo 2 жыл бұрын
@@BruceWayne-zj1kw Yeah it was very stealth like since clearly you didn't get that part so instead of asking a question you seek to get a reaction out of people. Imagine being a student and trying to annoy the teacher because you don't understand the lesson.
@tidyboy1963
@tidyboy1963 2 жыл бұрын
This is very good, thank you!
@PesteNegro
@PesteNegro 2 жыл бұрын
Licorice Pizza premiered yesterday here, I've watched it and I got so stuck on it. It's the first of his I got to watch on theater and much of what you guys said was in my mind while I watched among others things. Funny to come by now and see that perspective, I thought it could be just a teenager appalling romcom but surely it's so much more, as he always manages to make it
@ian12346
@ian12346 2 жыл бұрын
There Will Be Blood was his best work by far. Insanely good film.
@Snarl_Marx
@Snarl_Marx 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. An absolutely haunting film.
@fennarios
@fennarios 2 жыл бұрын
That's because Daniel Day Lewis
@FramesPerSecond
@FramesPerSecond 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer The Master but it’s defs top 3.
@pantsonfire2216
@pantsonfire2216 2 жыл бұрын
Best movie ever
@marioturcotte7938
@marioturcotte7938 2 жыл бұрын
Agree although I think the master is close he seemed to be at the peak of his powers as a director during that time. However boogie nights is still my personal fav from him it’s not technically as good as those two but I can rewatch it any time.
@TheCreepypro
@TheCreepypro 2 жыл бұрын
really weird how you didn't talk about phantom thread at all even though it is his best film and talks about all the themes you discussed here
@azaz2756
@azaz2756 Жыл бұрын
not his best
@jaredkunish
@jaredkunish Жыл бұрын
@@azaz2756 says you, bozo 🤣
@azaz2756
@azaz2756 Жыл бұрын
@@jaredkunish what does your mom got to do with this?
Жыл бұрын
Nice! Thank you!
@sebastianalegria3401
@sebastianalegria3401 2 жыл бұрын
Despite not being a fan of PTA's films, I'm really amazed by his latest movie. I think that Licorice Pizza is the perfect movie that everyone must watch, before COVID takes your life away. As a result of the film, none of the cast didn't disappoint at all, even Philip Seymour Hoffman's son "Cooper", he reminded me a bit of his father's debut as an actor in Scent of a woman.
@beansfebreeze
@beansfebreeze 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting all month to see Licorice Pizza only to see it's theater-only for now 😑
@faulkbl
@faulkbl 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked this video! without having to watch the movies again. I felt that I could thi8nk about my own "families" or ties. Being in the military it is evident that poeples bonds are loose and rooted in different goals. Promotions, awards, and status.
@dialecticamundi
@dialecticamundi 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@catherinedavies-ogbodo5674
@catherinedavies-ogbodo5674 Жыл бұрын
PTA films hit different😩
@kirbymarchbarcena
@kirbymarchbarcena 2 жыл бұрын
PTA is a fine director as fine as he can be.
@RandomGuy-jo8ky
@RandomGuy-jo8ky 2 жыл бұрын
Cults are "found family". Manson OPENLY knew that.
@geddykrugerthealt-leftover2237
@geddykrugerthealt-leftover2237 2 жыл бұрын
In all seriousness, though, *There Will Be Blood* still seems impossible to transcend. Next time I rewatch it, thanks to your Wisecrack team's thoughtful video, I'm going to try imagining it as a prequel to *Boogie Nights.* PTA: PLEASE DIRECT THE REAL FREDDY KRUEGER HORROR DOCUMENTARY.
@thomasbaxter1371
@thomasbaxter1371 Жыл бұрын
Great video fella..........and......Hard Eight........Inherent Vice........Phantom Thread?????
@RandomGuy-jo8ky
@RandomGuy-jo8ky 2 жыл бұрын
"He was going to take me out of here"............oh yeah, I remember those girls from my younger years..............
@talideon
@talideon 2 жыл бұрын
1:25 - less soul destroying than Mountain Dew, at least!
@benduell8792
@benduell8792 2 жыл бұрын
What, pray tell, type of beverage should be able to quench that proverbial "thirst for knowledge"?
@JemLeavitt
@JemLeavitt 2 жыл бұрын
Important.
@jeffreyharte
@jeffreyharte 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if or where you still take requests, but I would love to hear you guys talk about the wholesome Midwestern humor of Joe Pera. Maybe a Deep Or Dumb? Or “A Philosopher Reacts? Anyway, long time, big fan, but please do something on Joe Pera!
@noyontalukderrony1985
@noyontalukderrony1985 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@geddykrugerthealt-leftover2237
@geddykrugerthealt-leftover2237 2 жыл бұрын
PS. Your read on Plainview's "confession" to a crudely self-interested relationship with his son is psychologically implausible and elides too much of Plainview's complexity. He's absolutely trashed on hooch, cabin-fevered in a gigantic mansion of lonesome despair, and as heavily burdened as ever with his extremely nebulous and traumatic mommy issues---compounded by countless camp-capitalist colonio-historical factors, of course! The long and short of it is, Plainview is being dishonest with himself about his son. The last scene with HW as a grown man would lose so much of its depth and its poignancy if we were to take Plainview at his word in both directions. The truth is that---and PTA being the existential psyche-sleuth that he is---Plainview is announcing his Final Decision at that critical moment: he has abandoned the man, and thrown the child out with the bloodwater. All he has left to do is slaughter that little cringing puke Eli Sunday. And is it just me or is there are really amusing pun on 'sundae' going on with Eli's name? What's with all the dairy products? Maybe we gotta channel Tarkovsky or something---if we watch PTA's films more closely will we find that there's some reference to milk, however indirect or subtle, in all of them? I don't remember any milky substances in *Boogie Nights...* oh wait a sec... nevermind!!
@aescubed
@aescubed 10 ай бұрын
This is a tangent - It never ceases to amaze me how many well-fed secure-in-body people will thrash wealth and wealth creation via capitalism. There is no freedom without wealth. There is no peace without wealth. Poverty is the natural state of things and wealth offers a lot of benefits. So people who hate capitalism (and who doesn't hate at least some version of it), give us an alternate system that doesn't involve extreme coercive force and is in inline with the default-seeming baser human instincts.
@studywithmir1994
@studywithmir1994 2 жыл бұрын
No love, not even a mention for my number 1 favorite inherent vice.
@eduardoestacio5727
@eduardoestacio5727 2 жыл бұрын
Dirk's big ambition and immense popularity. Yeah, right! Hahaha
@a.filakiewicz2942
@a.filakiewicz2942 2 жыл бұрын
Completely unrelated: i just saw a new Matrix, and it is so very "meta" . It sort of lost stem by the end, but the first two few were pretty clever. Any philosopher reacts plans or "being meta of modern media"?
@taylordukes1658
@taylordukes1658 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was a missed opportunity that they didn’t bring Phantom Thread and Inherent Vice into the analysis.
@christiancruz2012
@christiancruz2012 2 жыл бұрын
Damn it KZfaq I haven’t seen the movie yet!!
@avrinrose5457
@avrinrose5457 2 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about Kaitou Joker?
@patrickjvanhuffel
@patrickjvanhuffel 2 жыл бұрын
It's not about capitalism encroaching on familial ties. It's about acknowledging the transactional nature of all relationships. Showing $ on screen is simply a shortcut to getting the point accross. The difference the blood ties make is in the size of credit line open to you.
@EarlofSedgewick
@EarlofSedgewick 6 ай бұрын
I agree with your assessment. Capitalism isn't a character or identifiable force in any movie. It's isn't an active thing, it is more of a fabric. I have heard ideology being defined as a set of assumptions that are so unconscious that you are most under its auspices when you believe you are free from it. Your comment makes me think of that. Capitalist ideology is the idea that family relationships operate like a business. That's at least a literal rule of classical liberalism, as established by John Locke. A man creates property by mixing his labour with nature, which he then provides to his wife to nourish his children, thus making them his property. Worth reading his Second Treatise on Government, because it is parent document for the creation of America - Jefferson directly states this.
@StONed-mb1iv
@StONed-mb1iv Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched LP 27 times. I had no idea why until I realized I have seen TWBB nearly 40x… IV…is my fave of the three…seen it nearly 50x…. ::::::TheMoreYouKnow
@aryasamanta2031
@aryasamanta2031 Жыл бұрын
By the end of the video he changes his T-shirt to let us know that he has balanced his work-life and is in a more healthy relationship with his job of selling philosophy of youtube videos in wisecrack!
@David-gw8lz
@David-gw8lz 2 жыл бұрын
No mention of PTA's most complicated film, Inherent Vice? Joaquin Phoenix and Josh Brolin's relationship could be analyzed as son and father. Not to mention the film's obvious theme of the free-lovin' 60s being crushed by the paranoid and capitalist 70s. Either way, great video!
@chluain1
@chluain1 Жыл бұрын
All of PTAs films are about the inner child.
@syedsharaf7306
@syedsharaf7306 2 жыл бұрын
Irony that this starts with a merch ad
@isaiahyounggod2723
@isaiahyounggod2723 2 жыл бұрын
Do you still do hidden meaning videos? If you do, I'm not speaking for everybody else, but I would like to see a demon slayer one
@cg4432
@cg4432 2 жыл бұрын
Not mentioned but the theme of love as a form of transaction also comes up in Phantom Thread with Daniel Day Lewis's character deciding to stay with the female lead and continuing to eat her mushrooms so that he can create more dazzling pieces/
@Eliu5564
@Eliu5564 2 жыл бұрын
PT Anderson is Pynchon but for the film screen… I can’t really explain it
@mattlanguedoc8634
@mattlanguedoc8634 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. He directed "Inherent Vice."
@jonahsparrow
@jonahsparrow 2 жыл бұрын
i think Alanna is running to Gary specifically because of his relationship to capitalism, not because she's trying to escape capitalism
@luacs6174
@luacs6174 2 жыл бұрын
Do an in-depth theory on why Kyle and Cartman hate each other so much I actually have the theory it's because Cartman is in love with Kyle
@TheMjsanty
@TheMjsanty 2 жыл бұрын
The structure of the modern family is a product of early capitalism. As the system of capitalism has changed over time, this has led to disruptions to the family. Think, women moving from helping with farm work in a pre-capitalist world to having “women’s role” as exclusively a mother and wife. Or children being a source for cheap labor to being adults in training. Late stage capitalism, struggling to survive against its many contradictions, has turned everything into a hustle and all relationships into exchanges and competitions with people becoming as disposable and replaceable as commodities or products off an assembly line.
@colenemitz9053
@colenemitz9053 2 жыл бұрын
Ya know, licorice pizza would’ve been so much better if their wasn’t an uncomfortable age difference between the 2 love interests
@cristhianzerimar
@cristhianzerimar 2 жыл бұрын
The age gap, I'm okay with. The fact he was a child I'm not.
@AkshatJha
@AkshatJha 2 жыл бұрын
How about the Japanese accent that the white character adopted when talking to his Japanese wife? Even if PTA's intent was to make it seem funny or offensive or whatever, it was poorly executed and fell flat. What's worse was the white people in the theater laughing at those scenes. You expect better from PTA. Also, I thought the movie in general was poor in terms of writing, acting and directing.
@colenemitz9053
@colenemitz9053 2 жыл бұрын
@@AkshatJha I was cringing at that, it was gross, but that’s the point too, I think it was meant to be off putting
@lukas4112
@lukas4112 2 жыл бұрын
@@colenemitz9053 I wish it worked tho. I saw so many yt ppl in the audiences laughing like it was funny lmao
@MichaelGoldenberg
@MichaelGoldenberg Жыл бұрын
Gee, I wonder why the guy has two different wives in very short order. How many others tired of him and split? And he doesn’t even speak Japanese, which means asking the wives for their opinions is all done for show, since he doesn’t know what they say. This foreshadows Jack Holden’s using Alana (whose name he forgets) and the councilman using her as a beard for his male lover (who also seems used). Anderson knows what he’s about, and it’s not some simplistic issue that people suffering from political correctness can grapple with intelligently.
@robertmclaren5711
@robertmclaren5711 Жыл бұрын
Capitalism is just kind of a prop, I think PTA is pointing out the fact that humans create love and attachment in a similar way capitalism creates(manufacturers) supply and demand. Its natural part being human to turn each other into resources whether Financial or romantic. I think that is why magnolia always stands out. The character give up and let go of their expectations of each other and witness the divinity in each after the raining frog scene. Everyone kind "wakes up" after that moment.
@jdefrieze
@jdefrieze Жыл бұрын
i’ve recognized his main themes of capitalism and family more as capitalism and cults… very similar though
@Vladimir-Struja
@Vladimir-Struja 2 жыл бұрын
why are you not having a hot take on the new matrix, what is going on
@WisecrackEDU
@WisecrackEDU 2 жыл бұрын
Keep an eye out...
@juliencotton3095
@juliencotton3095 2 жыл бұрын
DONT. LOOK. UP. Show Me the Meaning. Deep or Dumb. Something!
@jeremyhodder9319
@jeremyhodder9319 2 жыл бұрын
Spoiler warning. Dumb
@SuperSuperballZ
@SuperSuperballZ 2 жыл бұрын
I guess Inherent Vice doesn't fit the mould...
@justinrichards1124
@justinrichards1124 Жыл бұрын
Just gonna gloss over the fact that Gary is 15 and Alana is 25-28? Really??
@pabloquijadasalazar7507
@pabloquijadasalazar7507 2 жыл бұрын
8:13 It always was Mr PTA, always was. 🔫
@rachelfoss9447
@rachelfoss9447 2 жыл бұрын
you forgot to add that all his films center around men, and women are only in his movies to be sex objects and free therapy for the male protagonists.
@ivang5874
@ivang5874 2 жыл бұрын
i really wanted to like Licorice Pizza. somehow almost none of the "emotional beats" felt earned. too much running towards each other in slo-mo . too much sappy music. i dont think the movie deserved the bowie song.
@paulelroy6650
@paulelroy6650 2 жыл бұрын
Theres 1 scene of them.running towards eachother.
@ivang5874
@ivang5874 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulelroy6650 i thought there was at least 3
@paulelroy6650
@paulelroy6650 2 жыл бұрын
@@ivang5874 theres a few running scenes but they only run towards eachother at the end
@lukas4112
@lukas4112 2 жыл бұрын
It was way too self indulgent and not enough compelling or interesting story beats
@sangsb2726
@sangsb2726 2 жыл бұрын
PTA is the Kubrick/Hitchcock of our generation.
@MonikaiMoniker
@MonikaiMoniker 2 жыл бұрын
This movie is about the romance between a 25 yr old woman and a 15 yr old boy. Why aren't more people horrified?
@paulelroy6650
@paulelroy6650 2 жыл бұрын
1. It's not a romance. 2 it's a fucking film. 3. Do you only like films where the characters are perfect people. No you dont so jog on pal.
@MonikaiMoniker
@MonikaiMoniker 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulelroy6650 I like all kinds of characters and movies but not movies that romanticize pedophilia.
@lukas4112
@lukas4112 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulelroy6650 1) it is a romance film. It’s also a coming of age film which is even worse. 2) “it’s a film” means nothing and is a lazy counter argument
@2424rocket
@2424rocket Жыл бұрын
Kind of sad… He used to be my favorite favorite Director. Amazing stuff… Boogie nights, there will be blood, the master… Now his last couple of movies absolutely suck. Licorice pizza is so bad it’s almost unwatchable. Some first year college student could’ve written that. I guess for some people the well just runs dry.
@brennenderopa
@brennenderopa 2 жыл бұрын
Capitalist churches? Let me tell you about mega churches and televangelists.
@RandomGuy-jo8ky
@RandomGuy-jo8ky 2 жыл бұрын
In theory every Spouse and/or babies momma is "found family". Step/adopted/foster kids too. Beyond that, its all feel good nonsense.
@1rjona
@1rjona 2 жыл бұрын
IMHO, Licorice Pizza shows you will not survive the capitalistic world alone. You need a good and trustworthy partner
@Rick_Cleland
@Rick_Cleland 2 жыл бұрын
Mmmmmmmm... 🤔🤔🤔
@rolandorubalcava2168
@rolandorubalcava2168 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this analysis of PTA films, but it's hard to appreciate a romance movie between a 16-yr old kid and 25-yr old woman
@Dave175
@Dave175 2 жыл бұрын
Would’ve really liked some acknowledgement of the gross age difference in Licorice Pizza…
@jamescaruso6564
@jamescaruso6564 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@paulelroy6650
@paulelroy6650 2 жыл бұрын
Have you never watched a film before?
@shineon9715
@shineon9715 2 жыл бұрын
Do you feel this way about Rushmore too? How about The Graduate? Scott Pilgrim? Lolita?
@Dave175
@Dave175 2 жыл бұрын
Paul, what does that question even mean? What films am I supposed to have watched that would make me okay with a romance between an adult and a minor? Because there’s no movie that’s going to make okay with that. And to answer the other question, of the films listed, I have seen the Graduate, but it’s worth pointing out that movie’s protagonist isn’t a minor.
@jamescaruso6564
@jamescaruso6564 2 жыл бұрын
Films challenge and reaffirm morals and ideas within society. By design, films have a moral message and film themes convey ideas. They reflect what we admire, detest, love, and fear-usually by way of what happens to the hero. In a comedy a hero moves towards their strength or truth and away from their fear, and in tragedies heroes may win a small bit but ultimately fall prey to their weaknesses and fear. This is how we get our moral message and meaning from film. Sometimes that message comes across loud and clear, while other times it’s more nuanced and needs further analysis. More nuanced films run the risk of being misinterpreted, which is why we need to be thoughtful about what we are putting out into society to be reflected back at us. Movies like Rushmore and Scott Pilgrim are really clear about their themes and morals. In both of these the age gap is shown as inappropriate, and It’s not until the hero moves away from their flaw and behaves authentically that they end up in appropriate relationships. The Freshman I think is a more nuanced take on similar themes, which is why some people may come away with mixed messages. Now I haven’t seen Lolita because I think it’s kinda gross, so I can’t make any comparisons here. But I have seen the Professional which drew heavily from the film. That movie is in fact a tragedy. Matilda fails to learn her lesson of being a normal kid in a normal relationship. As a result Leon dies. While it’s a solid action film and Leon is an iconic character, the implied sexual attraction between the two of them was hugely problematic (even for it’s time) and added nothing morally good to the story. A platonic relationship would have been far better and could have even improved the film by drawing contrasts between her degenerate father and Leon, a caring but flawed father figure. It’s also well known that the director, Luc Besson, had actually had a relationship with a young girl of Matilda’s age and wanted more sexuality between them in the film. It’s actually pretty gross. Now I don’t think PTA is as bad as Luc here, but the moral of Licorice Pizza is just as murky. If we’re looking at Licorice Pizza through a narrative lens, it SHOULD be a tragedy. The hero gets what he wants right up until their last chance to abandon their flaw, only to not lean their lesson and experience a fall. What Gary, a 15yr old kid, wanted was a meaningful relationship, but the problem was that it was with a 28yr old woman. Unlike Rushmore and Scott Pilgrim, Gary never learns his lesson. Instead he gets what he wanted right up until the end, without consequence. Because of this, the moral stance of the film is that inappropriate relationships are acceptable, when in fact they are not. I think this is not a nuanced ending and it is actually a very poor moral message. It is difficult for me to find a more charitable interpretation of this ending. I think the film would have had a healthier moral message if Gary and Alana were very close in age. It could have communicated all the same ideas and themes and still ended as a comedy. Or if either of them faced consequences for their relationship, it could have been a solid tragedy. I simply do not see any good reason for such an extreme age gap and I don’t think it makes for a better, smarter, or healthier film. Movies are mirrors for our morals and ideas. They reflect society. We need to be more thoughtful about what we put out and what gets reflected back to us. Otherwise we may not like what we see.
@rangereric18
@rangereric18 2 жыл бұрын
You can't escape capitalism.
@psychoparty5948
@psychoparty5948 Жыл бұрын
Licorice Pizza is a average movie.Didn't mention that Alana is 25 years old & Gary is 15 years old. Ya....realistic? Really...!
@anthonycrecco5679
@anthonycrecco5679 2 жыл бұрын
Licorice pizza’s ending where they get together is not “beautiful” or “bittersweet” he’s 15 and she’s 25. Not speaking on his other films but licorice pizza was a terrible movie that romanticizes predatory relationships
@Kawaii-tr8ng
@Kawaii-tr8ng 2 жыл бұрын
TALK ABOUT DON'T LOOK UP PLS!!!!!
@Portal64
@Portal64 2 жыл бұрын
But… why is a 20 something romantically involved with a 15 year old???
@BradleyGarlock
@BradleyGarlock 2 жыл бұрын
because that is the reality and supports his "not being a kid anymore".
@Portal64
@Portal64 2 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyGarlock yeah still don’t see how that makes it okay. Like they could have easily changed characters ages since the movie itself is still fictional despite irl inspirations
@lukas4112
@lukas4112 2 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyGarlock it’s not reality lmao. It would be reality if Alanna’s power over him was actually shown as harmful
@zmichalo13
@zmichalo13 2 жыл бұрын
I think talking about Licorice pizza while ignoring the fact that it's pedophilic and predatory in nature is a massive miss in your analysis. Alana is the parental figure leeching off the success of Gary and passing it off as friendship. She's nothing without him and so anytime she feels him slipping away into a normal 15 year old relationship, she pushes him to be jealous or insecure. This parasitic relationship may be hidden behind a filter of charismatic charm and humor from both Alana and Gary and the rose colored depiction of the 70s, but it's a key factor that ties Licorice Pizza thematically to PTAs previous works.
@giovannacoronado3689
@giovannacoronado3689 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah really not into a movie that glamorizes romance between a 15 year old boy and 25 year old woman. If the genders were switched, everyone would be creeped tf out.
@cw4019
@cw4019 2 жыл бұрын
not mentioning inherent vice makes me irrationally angry
@megamoviez
@megamoviez 2 жыл бұрын
The age stuff in Call Me By Your Name was much worse people
@lukas4112
@lukas4112 2 жыл бұрын
It’s about just as bad lmao. Pedophilia is pedophilia
@megamoviez
@megamoviez 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukas4112 But it’s not pedophilia. That implies sex.
@lukas4112
@lukas4112 2 жыл бұрын
@@megamoviez no it doesn’t. Pedophilia means attraction to children. It doesn’t mean or imply actually having sex lmao.
@user-mb9nm7bq5e
@user-mb9nm7bq5e 2 жыл бұрын
But he’s 15 and she’s 28 🤢
@courtneycoleman6849
@courtneycoleman6849 2 жыл бұрын
Yes why is this so overlooked?
@Dave175
@Dave175 2 жыл бұрын
For real, I don’t see nearly enough people acknowledging how creepy this is
@courtneycoleman6849
@courtneycoleman6849 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dave175 I hate to be the one to say it but you know if gender roles were reversed more people would be talking about it. I'm so sick of this narrative that women can't be predators.... no healthy sane twenty something wants to spend that kind of time around teenagers
@paulelroy6650
@paulelroy6650 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dave175 plenty of dipshits like yourself are co planning for jo reason. For one it's not a sexual relationship and 2 it's a fucking film. Are you knew to films having characters.who arent morally perfect. Grow the fuck up you snowflake.
@Dave175
@Dave175 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic that you’re telling me to grow up when you can’t seem to spell “complaining”.
@watcherofthewest8597
@watcherofthewest8597 4 ай бұрын
Capitalism is what naturally occurs, all other systems are imposed by the state.
@geddykrugerthealt-leftover2237
@geddykrugerthealt-leftover2237 2 жыл бұрын
Lol why not just admit it comrade---your work-life balance eroded a long time ago!! Can I trade you a Richard Nixon collage for an old chipped Wisecrack mug?!?!?!?!
@sockself
@sockself 2 жыл бұрын
Bro how are you not going to mention the age gap it's predatorily odd
@lukas4112
@lukas4112 2 жыл бұрын
also I think we should talk about the weird predatory age gap. Like imagine if the genders were switched. Lets talk about how normalized in media it is
@guest_informant
@guest_informant 2 жыл бұрын
Licorice Pizza. He's 15. She's 25. Someone make sense of that for me please bc despite being hilarious in parts ("This is my nozzle mf"), for now, for me LP is creepy af.
@PesteNegro
@PesteNegro 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't watched it yet but broey dechannel made an analise tackling this topic, they're great so I really recommend it
@wh4070
@wh4070 2 жыл бұрын
I must be the only person who didn't like There Will Be Blood. Was boring, anti climactic, and just felt like a bigger waste of time than pre-ordering over promised games.
@billybobmcjohnson8526
@billybobmcjohnson8526 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah idk if I just didn't understand it but after I finished it I just thought "What was the point?"
@marioturcotte7938
@marioturcotte7938 2 жыл бұрын
@@billybobmcjohnson8526 anti-climatic what more do you what than i drink your milkshake. But i really disagree with everything you typed the movie had me hooked at the beginning with the 15 mins of no dialogue and didn’t let up. As far as waste of time yeah any movie you don’t like is a huge waste of time who wants to sit for two plus hours watching something they don’t enjoy.
@Destiny87
@Destiny87 2 жыл бұрын
Capitalism is still the best system we got. The problem arises when you add that greed into the mix. Instead of being satisfied with enough money to live comfortably, characters in these movies want ALL the money and have no qualms using anything and anyone to get more money. It's clear what PTA thinks about that, but there are plenty of works out there that have people learn that family is more important than money.
@TheMidwestAtheist
@TheMidwestAtheist 2 жыл бұрын
No, it's not the best system we have. Socialism is better. Capitalism is very welcoming of greed as it essentially requires that one be greedy to succeed. A business person, for example, cannot "be satisfied with enough money to live comfortably" as doing so could result in them being overrun by competitors and result in them not having enough money. This is a problem as capitalism has no good mechanism for getting people out of poverty. Once one "loses the game," so to speak, it's very difficult to rebound. And, of course, there is the name itself! It's telling us that we should value capital! Really, would you have us believe that it's called "capitalism" but that we're _not_ supposed to value capital under such a system??? Please! Greed is damn near in the name! This alone is a primary reason why socialism is better; the name tells us that we are to value our social relationships, _not_ capital. Unfortunately, societies that have tried some semblance of socialism have often found themselves contaminated by the trappings of capitalism. It's hard not to when the global economy is capitalistic.
@Destiny87
@Destiny87 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMidwestAtheist Not uncommon for someone to go work for their competitors after "losing". With capitalism, your own effort and smart planning can easily get you by in life, even if you have to sacrifice certain luxuries. It allows people to go from being dirt poor to billionaires. Socialism on the other hand relies on the government deciding what people need. If the government decided people only need $100 a month to live, that's all you'll get no matter what sort of job you have. You have no control over any aspect of your life because the government owns everything. Of course true socialism doesn't even have a government. It relies solely on the good will of the people to share resources and not do each other harm. It's a fairy tale that will never happen.
@melelconquistador
@melelconquistador 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMidwestAtheist you think socialism isn't susceptible to greed either? Why does it always fall apart at the seems to the subversion of greed. Thing is,that ideals are too flawed for reality. Both capitalism and socialism are not one size fits all solutions, because clearly there are instances where they are harmful.
@elpascalmods7384
@elpascalmods7384 2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about, capitalism is fundamentally based on greed. Like, that's not a moral judgement, the economic foundation of capitalism is objectively to always accrue more money to afford more capital with, which serves to make even more money, that's what we call economic growth. That's year 1 economics, you don't "add greed to the mix", it's a base ingredient.
@PesteNegro
@PesteNegro 2 жыл бұрын
Read Marx, break the law.
@cagjr3421
@cagjr3421 2 жыл бұрын
fast and furious did a better job at talking about chosen family then most of these movies.
@BruceWayne-zj1kw
@BruceWayne-zj1kw 2 жыл бұрын
Capitalism, capitalism, capitalism, Jesus Christ… your read of his films are so narrow.
@ConernicusRex
@ConernicusRex 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously this fucking sucks.
@sinnsage
@sinnsage 2 жыл бұрын
yes of course. capitalism ruins everything.
@Rick_Cleland
@Rick_Cleland 2 жыл бұрын
What!??😮😮😮
@ConernicusRex
@ConernicusRex 2 жыл бұрын
Why is all your content SO BAD???? It’s baffling you even claim to have read the things you cite. So often you come to the exact opposite conclusion of what you just read.
@lukas4112
@lukas4112 2 жыл бұрын
you guys should talk about how PTA and so many other white directors shoehorn racist comedy into films that have nothing to do with racism. It makes poc unnecessarily uncomfortable and its so odd
@carsonbassi6371
@carsonbassi6371 2 жыл бұрын
there is literally nothing beautiful about licorice pizza, it’s a story of a women falling in love with a child. it’s creepy and gross
@marioturcotte7938
@marioturcotte7938 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah when I thought about the age difference I kept wishing he made her 20, 21 but it didn’t bother me watching. I guess the fact that cooper Hoffman doesnt look 15 at all and Alana’s personality seemed more like a late teens early 20s I was able to look past it in the movie and really enjoy the film.
@megamoviez
@megamoviez 2 жыл бұрын
@@marioturcotte7938 Plus she says different ages throughout the film so you never truly know her real age
@gobbagu
@gobbagu 2 жыл бұрын
Licorice Pizza sucked
@brennenderopa
@brennenderopa 2 жыл бұрын
Capitalist churches? Let me tell you about mega churches and televangelists.
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