Viral TikTok Dancers Trapped Inside Cult Controlling their Every Move, Family & Friends Beg for Help

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Without A Crystal Ball

Without A Crystal Ball

2 жыл бұрын

#7M
Dancers that have been everywhere recently including the Super Bowl, Ellen, countless daytime talk shows, and all over the media are now at the center of a huge controversy that has gripped the dance community.
7M Films manages a group of dancers who have gone viral for their throwback dancing and videos. However, the group is being controlled by a pastor who has a history of fraud.
The Church: shekinahchurch.com/
The Management: 7mfilms.com/
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@WithoutACrystalBall
@WithoutACrystalBall 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Everyone, Please do me a huge favor. I know this content is new to the channel. I am always nervous to bring new topics. So please help the video out by liking, commenting and sharing. I truly want to expand the awareness of this story so more people SEE what is happening. Thanks! Katie
@arlenehynes4607
@arlenehynes4607 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering these cults. Hopefully it will bring awareness where it is desperately needed!
@reiramiya8805
@reiramiya8805 2 жыл бұрын
Cults are scary and need a light shown on them whenever and wherever possible. Thank you.
@kristivaught9541
@kristivaught9541 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot to like 👍 so thank you for reminding me!!! Just an FYI Katie, I go back and like videos from years back just to boost your algorithm!!!! I also, when I have time, will 👍 every positive comment (which are officially 1,000's of liked comments). PLUS, I probably shouldn't say this but I give thumbs down on other channels when false, negative and rude comments are written about you and your channel. I only do it if it is legitimately false or mean information!!! Even on your channel I have left thumbs down on negative comments geared towards you!!!!
@ljsteffler5099
@ljsteffler5099 2 жыл бұрын
I think they are in Scientology. People, help us out here. 💜💜💜
@itjustmemanning8441
@itjustmemanning8441 2 жыл бұрын
I'm finding this very interesting, sad and scary. I hope that bringing the story out in the open will help get some dancers home.
@iiiAMTAM
@iiiAMTAM 5 күн бұрын
Who’s here from the Netflix series 7M? Crazy how this was posted 2 years ago!!
@yanou4u
@yanou4u 7 күн бұрын
I believe the fact that Miranda's boyfriend, James, now her husband, was part of the cult, influenced her decision to stay. Love will make you do stupid things, and at some point, they were able to brainwash her easily. She has a loving family, but we know of at least one person who would drop everything for the person they are deeply in love with. If James quits, she will quit as well.
@MusiqallyDivine
@MusiqallyDivine 4 күн бұрын
Or she could already want to leave but won't do it without James. Either way, they are a packaged deal....as of now.
@RobinPrater
@RobinPrater 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!! I have followed these dancers and am blown away. Allison Holker who was wife of the late Twitch, (Steven Boss), also a part of this group. Which brings me to the thought of Twitch and suicide. So much to ponder here. These young people, who are extremely talented, need saved from this cult. It’s heartbreaking
@TrishTrends
@TrishTrends 11 күн бұрын
Omg I was just thinking about this. I used to follow a lot of the boy dancers at the beginning and then I saw that last video with Alison and twitch before he passed away. I was wondering if it was related. This is so scary 🫣
@DylanLovesBrenda
@DylanLovesBrenda 3 күн бұрын
Was wondering the same. I unfollowed Miranda I wish this would make her lose her followers just as a wake up call. I also don’t know much about how these dancers make money but I’m not going to follow someone so that creep gets money.
@elizabethgrogan8553
@elizabethgrogan8553 2 жыл бұрын
There is a saying "if you want to get rich quick, start a church". This cult proves the truth of that statement. Exposing this dangerous cult is great. Can't wait to hear more.
@WithoutACrystalBall
@WithoutACrystalBall 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being here
@cremebrulee4759
@cremebrulee4759 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that L. Ron Hubbard, who founded the cult of Scientology, is the one who said that.
@cremebrulee4759
@cremebrulee4759 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that L. Ron Hubbard, who founded the cult of Scientology, is the one who said that. Prior to starting the church, he wrote science fiction books. He obviously used science fiction in creating Scientology because it is so off the wall.
@samanthakwait8782
@samanthakwait8782 2 жыл бұрын
What blows my mind is how does anyone equate faith or religion with dancing on social media?? Like clearly they are being put to work to funnel money back to the founder
@christineperez7562
@christineperez7562 2 жыл бұрын
Most churches are not rich because they actully give most of it to help people in need.
@fortmacmom3122
@fortmacmom3122 2 жыл бұрын
You should contact Leah Remini and Mike Rinder in their fight against cults. They have a podcast that would really help advertise this.
@misstyrra
@misstyrra 2 жыл бұрын
The first thing I thought of!
@Pnd-tt5xd
@Pnd-tt5xd 5 күн бұрын
I agree, that is a really good idea. It would bring more awareness to this. The Netflix documentary has also helped to do that.
@jessemo61
@jessemo61 3 ай бұрын
If the dancers do not come out of this, this is going to explode, and these poor dancers are going to lose their audience. I am in total shock. Vik, Miranda, Bdash, don't let this ruin your career
@maryannetesoro8848
@maryannetesoro8848 9 сағат бұрын
And more importantly: don't let it ruin their lives 😔
@angelastone9005
@angelastone9005 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know where to begin. My sister and I have known Dean since high school and reconnected when his and his wife when they enrolled their daughters in dance when they were three and two. Both of my nieces danced with them till they left the studio. I have watched these two beautiful girls grow into beautiful woman and have followed their careers throughout. When Miranda started not showing up on their channel I was at a disbelief because I know how close the girls and family are. It breaks my heart and my whole family’s because we love them like family we have celebrated birthdays, graduations and so much more with them. My family and I want to support them in any way we can. PLEASE KEEP DIGGING SO ALL THESE DANCERS CAN COME HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES!
@virginiarobinson3848
@virginiarobinson3848 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking this on!!! I have watched this unfold thru the Wilking Sisters for the last year and wished someone could do something to crack this open. Please don’t give up!! Let’s get these dancers back to their families.
@kristivaught9541
@kristivaught9541 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds a lot like Scientology, commitment wise.
@wewemcrhyne
@wewemcrhyne 2 жыл бұрын
Cults are so frightening. We must teach our children about how to see them. Thank you for exposing this group. This truly hurts my heart ❤️
@rebekahdavis5935
@rebekahdavis5935 2 жыл бұрын
Yes we do! It seems like it's a growing problem in our society and it's really disturbing. If you teach a child what unhealthy thinking looks like then hopefully they will recognize it and stop getting pulled into these toxic communities. This seeming trend is scaring me because people in a cult are essentially living in psychosis.
@carm1030
@carm1030 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously. It would be heartbreaking if my children got involved in something like this!
@alliejones5949
@alliejones5949 2 жыл бұрын
@@rebekahdavis5935 look at the kids that have filed a lawsuit on Piper Rockelle mom.. this shiii starts YOUNG
@roxannlegg750
@roxannlegg750 2 жыл бұрын
I was caught up in one and forcefully thrown out - it took years to recover from it - even tho when it happened, it was because I saw what was REALLY happeneing. The act of being shunned is truely aweful!
@77777sadie
@77777sadie 5 ай бұрын
​@@roxannlegg750So sorry you were hurt by these predators. That you were able to see through the control and lies shows you are a strong, courageous person. I can relate. Shunning is devastating. For years I was angry with myself for being taken in and brainwashed. Now I realize it can happen to anyone if we are not careful. Especially if we are going through a difficult time in our lives that leaves us vulnerable. I wish you the best 💞
@aileenbell6750
@aileenbell6750 2 жыл бұрын
As a dance mom and amateur dancer myself, I can understand how dancers would be vulnerable to this kind of cult control. You grow up in a discipline that requires intense dedication and discipline. You rely a lot pn your teachers/authority figures. The professional world is flooded with talent…it is all about who you know, which makes people reluctant to criticize those in authority. I had seen these dancers on IG…and am horrified that this has happened to these young people. 😫
@Time.for.tea.
@Time.for.tea. 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for your valuable insight. I never made the connection that children who are involved in highly disciplined activities - like the dance world you described - are at a greater risk to be groomed and lured into the arms of ppl like that. It all makes sense now. And I suppose children raised by adults who micromanage their lives are at a higher risk of being caught in the same trap.
@roxannlegg750
@roxannlegg750 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for elucidating this - I was confused as to why dancers were tied up in this specifically. But it makes sense. I have no exp or ties at all to music or dance cultures so I was very curious.
@debrashepeard3039
@debrashepeard3039 2 жыл бұрын
Hold on, I was also a dancer. Unless you are there and know who they are with (if anyone at all) and this isn't some ploy to get them ousted by someone or something else, you better not make any judgements at all. Do you know all of their afes? Do you know where they reside? Do you know what church they are with? Do you know the Pasted/Teacher of the church? If so you need to share along with your opinion, so everyone else can stop the rumors. You have no idea who reads these. Let's help make things better not worse for them okay. @Aileen Bell
@kimberlysnyder4087
@kimberlysnyder4087 Жыл бұрын
@@debrashepeard3039 Do you know how to spell?
@debrashepeard3039
@debrashepeard3039 Жыл бұрын
@@kimberlysnyder4087 LOL
@donnagerhard645
@donnagerhard645 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen these dancers on Instagram. They are incredible dancers. I was so blown away how great these kids are. Thank you for getting this out.
@meglea7065
@meglea7065 2 жыл бұрын
B.Dash isnt a kid. He is a grown, divorced man with a son he doesnt speak to. He was in a cult once before.
@treehouse58
@treehouse58 2 жыл бұрын
@@meglea7065 really ..? Was it a dance cult as well? How old is his son?
@meglea7065
@meglea7065 2 жыл бұрын
@@treehouse58 Yes! It actually was. He was in it with his ex wife/mother of his child. They got out together from what I can surmise, then when B.Dash got involved with 7M he fell out of contact with his son and baby mom. I believe his son is a preteen/teenager.
@treehouse58
@treehouse58 2 жыл бұрын
@@meglea7065 do you known how old B’dash is? Is T’witch in the cult as well?
@meglea7065
@meglea7065 2 жыл бұрын
He is in his mid/late 30s. I cant recall the name Twitch coming up in this, id have to go back and re-listen
@growingvibrationsmagazine
@growingvibrationsmagazine 8 күн бұрын
I just watched the documentary now in 2024. This is a sad story😢I hope all the families eventually get the healing they’re seeking.❤
@jennywc
@jennywc 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a performer all my life and am constantly on the look out for groups like this. Thank you so much for all you do. I’m passing this info along to my performing students. Keep investigating and if you find another group like this, please tell us!
@annemcintosh2568
@annemcintosh2568 7 күн бұрын
Hopefully so you can warn your students? 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏽
@thercnielsen
@thercnielsen 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for getting this story out! It’s eerie watching these dancers posting online like everything’s fine but knowing what’s happening behind their screens… knowing it might not even be them running their own accounts😳 I truly, truly hope the dancers can see through the fog and reconnect with their families and get out!
@perturbedsun5508
@perturbedsun5508 2 жыл бұрын
This is insane. I have been following these dancers on Instagram for about a year and to find out that Miranda Derrick and It’s Slaavic are in a cult is just so shocking.
@debrashepeard3039
@debrashepeard3039 2 жыл бұрын
We need to hear the other side
@debidee5548
@debidee5548 3 ай бұрын
@@debrashepeard3039 Research 7M Films
@lisamcduffy12
@lisamcduffy12 2 жыл бұрын
OMG, I totally follow most of these dancers on TikTok. Thank you Katie for doing a deep dive into this cult. Im totally here for this!
@rccrn0228
@rccrn0228 2 жыл бұрын
I feel for these people. I married into The Church of God. It's a branch of Pentecostalism. My husband's family (now ex husband), were all leaders in the church. His grandfather was lead pastor. Mother was lead minister of music, etc. We faithfully attended church (every Sunday morning, Sunday night and Wednesday night). If for some reason we weren't there one day, for whatever reason (both myself and my ex husband are registered nurses, so 99.999999% of the time, it was because we had to WORK), church members were driving by our house and stalking us, so they could later confront us as to why we weren't there. "Missed you at church, but I saw your cars in the driveway at home, were y'all sick???" Passive aggressive bullshit. Plus, tithing. It is MY business how much I tithe, and that it is the appropriate amount. It tore our marriage apart. If you want a deep dive, look into Faith Church in Sherman, Texas. (That wasn't my church, thank God, but this particular church is NUTS! They date back to the 1960's. They had prayer rooms, in which they would literally kidnap and lock people in the prayer room, to "pray them through." Also, on more than one occasion, they kidnapped females and shaved their heads for punishment if they think said female did something wrong. This church rivals the IBLP like no other. Seriously, Faith Church! Please look into them! There is a juicy website www.informe.com/faithchurch, if anyone wants to look into them. Not to mention, these people that run this church are EVERYWHERE in our community. They are surgeons, accountants, police officers, teachers, insurance agents, on the city council, etc. Ugh! Psychos!)
@evegrinstead2893
@evegrinstead2893 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like disconnect n tearing apart families just in Scientology. They took notes!! 😢 Sad.. I feel for this family¡!!!!
@melissagill643
@melissagill643 2 жыл бұрын
This is heartbreaking. Do you know if anyone has broken free from this cult?
@gabbyj8154
@gabbyj8154 2 жыл бұрын
I was a dancer my entire life. I also was a foster kid.. grew up catholic.. and as an adult was able to distinct the difference between belief and mental control. I could never allow this to happen.. but then again… we all allow the government to have this control on us everyday.. we just became.. “disciplined” and “accustomed” to it.
@gabbyj8154
@gabbyj8154 2 жыл бұрын
I want to add, as far as how we’re controlled.. here’s just a FEW.. very FEW examples: banks, schools/educations and how they CHOOSE to teach our HISTORY.. which is extremely dangerous as by knowing our history, we are able to AVOID situations like complete control.. hint hint..by adding BVOs and GMOs/additives to our food without OUR consent.. I can keep going. But it’s all a concern. I fear for my child’s future.
@sharondowling8896
@sharondowling8896 2 жыл бұрын
Keep getting the story out there! If there are no sponsors, there will be no cash flow- if this cult leader is in it for the money, and the money dries up, he will loosen his grip on his followers. So glad dancers on the outside are now using their influence to shed light and hope as well. It's like there is an epidemic of cult culture lately! People seeking answers, but willing to give up their free will to have that "security"! Thanks for your hard work, Katie!❤
@kimswecker64
@kimswecker64 2 жыл бұрын
So glad your doing this i stumbled across this group of dancers while recovering from knee rpl and found them to be very talented but notice things to be odd as they downloaded content to be the same which if you watch there old stuff was fresh content not repeated. So glad your doing this story they need out of this cult they don't need this guy
@ljsteffler5099
@ljsteffler5099 2 жыл бұрын
Love this content. These ppl are so huge on every social media. I’m a professional dancer 💃 and this IS suspect.
@WithoutACrystalBall
@WithoutACrystalBall 2 жыл бұрын
Total sus! Thanks for being here!
@anticlimactic2685
@anticlimactic2685 2 жыл бұрын
Just landed here (starting from The Cut’s article, which I haven’t finished reading yet) and I have to say the information you share in this video is so well presented by you! Clear and concise. I’m so impressed! Thank you.
@tarasabin5423
@tarasabin5423 2 жыл бұрын
I found these dancers on Instagram. I fell in love with all of them. I actually follow the ones you named. I’m so distressed by this story. Please keep going. If this is true, it needs to be exposed.
@Solitaire427
@Solitaire427 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah IF!!!
@CRMediaGal
@CRMediaGal 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for following and providing developments about this, Katie. I had followed almost all of these dancers' accounts the past few months because I thought they were really talented - and they are (though the super high quality of their videos compared to their follower counts back then seemed pretty sketchy to me). All the developments on IG over the past week have been just horrifying to read. I really hope one of these dancers wakes up and chooses to leave because that could hopefully have some kind of snowball effect. Praying for them all to get out of this scary mess.
@sherip9854
@sherip9854 2 жыл бұрын
The dance community has amazing people in it. If they rally together they can give support love and opportunities to these people as they come out of this. ❤️
@WithoutACrystalBall
@WithoutACrystalBall 2 жыл бұрын
The dance community is filled with some of the most loving people I’ve come across
@michellemyers8020
@michellemyers8020 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of The Wilking Sisters so I was sad to hear about this and how many dancers are involved. Thank you for sharing details as they unfold.
@angiehartness2767
@angiehartness2767 2 жыл бұрын
I have been watching these dancers for a while. I had no idea this was going on behind the scenes. Thanks for digging into this.
@ldaskam
@ldaskam 2 жыл бұрын
I have been following this story all week. I saw one of the Staying Alive videos a few months ago and thought it was cute, so I shared it on social media. I was shocked to hear that it was a cult. I have since deleted my post and unfollowed this group. I hope these dancers can break free. Keep spreading the word about what is going on. Maybe it will keep others from joining.
@krosa2471
@krosa2471 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing light to topics like this and trying to find a way to cover this on YT. I'm not a dancer or family/friends of anyone involved, but I know how much it has to mean to them.
@WithoutACrystalBall
@WithoutACrystalBall 2 жыл бұрын
The dance community is really a beautiful group of people. I’m floored by their kindness and just love for the people in their world
@brittleycoudron4570
@brittleycoudron4570 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve worked so hard in this story! Yiu e done such a good job at getting any information to the public about this horrible situation. When you lose a loved one to a cult the only way they ever get out is by the media. Law enforcement can’t do anything most cases! So getting these horrible groups outed is up to really the people willing to spread the news and make noise!
@WithoutACrystalBall
@WithoutACrystalBall 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a sad but true reality
@middleagecrazy4234
@middleagecrazy4234 2 жыл бұрын
Young people don’t remember Jim Jones and the Kool aid. The zealot thought the same killing everyone for the second coming. Bet Daniel drives a Lamborghini!
@karensiegel6669
@karensiegel6669 2 жыл бұрын
A very few escaped that horrible cult in the jungle. I remember reading a book about them telling their story. Jim Jones was a drug addicted horrific sexual abuser that used his cult religion to make millions. I still remember the pictures on the news of all those people of all ages laying dead in the jungle. They made a movie about him and that tragedy too that only told some of the truth. When I hear about a cult, I see a black haired guy wearing black sunglasses every time.
@firstladygenevieve3688
@firstladygenevieve3688 7 күн бұрын
A Bentley, i believe
@stephaniebrodie4492
@stephaniebrodie4492 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video! As a professional dancer in the industry it is so heartbreaking to hear about everything that has come out about this over the past several weeks. I know some of the victims and they have been completely different over the past year or so both on their social media pages and in direct messages. I hope we can solve this as a community and get these humans back to living their lives!
@WithoutACrystalBall
@WithoutACrystalBall 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I am here to help in anyway that I can
@Schu0086
@Schu0086 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this and it definitely made me happy to finally get this rundown. I feel like I missed the first few Instagram posts about this group and felt lost with the later one, and haven’t had time to go find the beginning so this is exactly what I needed.
@peacockgrandma
@peacockgrandma 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me so sad because I love these dancers. It's heartbreaking that this church is brainwashing their people in such a way that marriages, families, friends and parents are alienated
@noitsnance
@noitsnance 2 жыл бұрын
Iiiuwt
@Natasha_835
@Natasha_835 2 жыл бұрын
I know I'm in shock as I watch them too... Miranda is my favourite 🥺
@choosehope8729
@choosehope8729 2 жыл бұрын
This is upsetting. I like some of those dancers and I hate they’re being exploited.
@ashleyfalk8183
@ashleyfalk8183 2 жыл бұрын
This is just weird. And totally off. I cannot believe some spin-off church is controlling tiktok dancers. I'll continue to keep my kids off tiktok 👌 Thank you for bringing awareness.
@aspenalyselong
@aspenalyselong 2 жыл бұрын
I love how he’s called to save so many souls but if you miss one church session you’re exiled 🤦🏼‍♀️
@brandon-ahmauri899
@brandon-ahmauri899 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all that you are doing to continue to bring this light! ❤️🙌🏾🔑 I know it’s tough managing so many stories on so many different social media platforms and I appreciate the intention and detail you are taking with this issue. It’s so sad seeing professional dancers that I have looked up to for so long be wrapped in this and I am praying/meditating for all of the victims and families involved that this ends soon . Popular organizations/studios like Dancers Alliance and Millennium Dance Studios 👀👀 (regardless of location) should be actively posting/educating the dance community on this so that future dancers who may be moving to LA aren’t lured in with these same destructive and manipulative individuals. And also, it seems like lots and lots of dancers knew about this for quite a while, especially with stuff being dated back all the way in 2005, so I want to encourage everyone to speak up sooner, rather than later when your intuition picks up bad energy and other evidence supports your feelings because with all of the information regarding the immensely talented Krump community and the many times that this evil energy has tried to prey on members of it, I just wish that more people took a stand and made it known publicly in different circles sooner in the way that we know now so that we as a community could have permanently eradicated this virus since it seems like there is two common denominators in all of this. Sending love, light and compassionate energy to everyone , including the other dancers in the community that are sharing this information and continuing to help get the word out. My biggest hope is that once this is over, all of the dancers can get the proper therapy and counseling needed to heal fully from this traumatic experience and that each one can then continue their dance career on a foundation that isn’t based on control, deceit, and corruption but instead grounded in joy, self-love and true community. 🙏🏾✨🌺✨🙏🏾
@WithoutACrystalBall
@WithoutACrystalBall 2 жыл бұрын
You make sure good points! I love this idea about studios educating dancers!
@thomasp.kitten2517
@thomasp.kitten2517 2 жыл бұрын
Wow.sounds like this absolutely needs to be uncovered.
@Wendy-zl8kv
@Wendy-zl8kv 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing this to the world’s attention Katie!
@arrahbell
@arrahbell 2 жыл бұрын
I am so here for this! I had no idea this cult existed. Thank you for opening my eyes to it, I look forward to you covering more stories about it.
@janeblack3441
@janeblack3441 2 жыл бұрын
Should we quit unfollow them all on IG? I have to admit, after listening to you talk, I saw a lot of what you said occurring. Fancy houses to dance, all dating or married to other dancers, etc. I was starting to be curious about what the backstory was here. I do not want to condone or support this church in any way. It just all seemed strange. Now I see
@promisejrhodes
@promisejrhodes 2 жыл бұрын
Omg wow. This is crazy!! Thank you for covering it.
@chelktty
@chelktty 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I would have never heard about this “church” if it wasn’t for your channel. You really do your research! Thank you for all the work you put into these videos.
@mrsshawneeboo
@mrsshawneeboo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this. I’ve been watching since you started posting on Insta. It all makes more sense now seeing it this way.
@mrsshawneeboo
@mrsshawneeboo 2 жыл бұрын
This is mind blowing. New age cult.
@elizabethandrus3848
@elizabethandrus3848 2 жыл бұрын
Katie, why has the family not hired a specialist in removing individuals from cults? The authorities won't do anything because she is married. There have been pieces on one of the news shows about this cult.
@amandajohnson3993
@amandajohnson3993 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have been following these dancers since 2020, and was so surprised when I saw some of the posts the last few days. Please get to the bottom of all of this. There is so much talent in this group, I hate to think of anyone taking advantage of them.
@PennyLester
@PennyLester 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for shedding light on this. I have seen some of the dancers. It is scary to think with all the technology of today that this still is happening.
@jrad410
@jrad410 2 жыл бұрын
I had seen the Wilkings together on TikTok and was confused when they just stopped appearing together. I suspected something was off, but never would guessed it involved a cult. Any church that close its doors is suspicious cuz thats the complete opposite of what any religious institution should be.
@brechtverfremdung2026
@brechtverfremdung2026 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this fascinating content. If you’re interested in other weird cult church/dance connections, check out the story of the Kirov Academy of Ballet in Washington DC. It’s closing now and lots of sordid info is coming out. As a former professional ballerina, I can imagine how easily aspiring dancers could become enmeshed in a cult. It’s an extremely difficult and precarious career with emerging artists in a particularly vulnerable position.
@wolfyngrey1313
@wolfyngrey1313 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this.
@thinkmirror8507
@thinkmirror8507 2 жыл бұрын
Will do thanks!
@lesleykaychoreography2918
@lesleykaychoreography2918 2 жыл бұрын
Also……Katsura Kan. Unfortunately it is easy for a con to manipulate artist, especially dancers, into a cult. We’ve already trained to have incredible discipline, we know we have to live a life that’s not “normal” to the average person and we know how to sacrifice for our craft, it’s so easy for a manipulative sociopath to con someone like that into their grip. I’ve know the Wilkings for decades. I don’t know who that was in the video I saw today but it definitely wasn’t the Miranda I knew. The little girl who was an extra in the first movie I did, the teen who danced with my collegiate dance crew, the girl who would sing for our entire class because she had an incredible voice too……it wasn’t her at all. Heartbreaking 💔
@zo9690
@zo9690 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard of them!!! I was a ballerina for 13 years and it was a topic of discussion in our community
@auzzygirl8175
@auzzygirl8175 2 жыл бұрын
Be careful Katie. Sounds like these people have no boundaries.
@rachekleblanc1091
@rachekleblanc1091 2 жыл бұрын
Well that's okay cause KJ has no boundaries either
@musiclovetara
@musiclovetara 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for covering this! 💞
@117Pinkyflower
@117Pinkyflower 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t understand what headspace these people are in that fall for the cults. If I smell, see or think there is BS I’m out!
@urmamasmamasmama
@urmamasmamasmama 2 жыл бұрын
People are slowly groomed by the cult. It's a process. Like most absers
@abigailcosta3494
@abigailcosta3494 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t say “couldn’t be me” so invalidating to the victims
@skylerwhiteyo28964
@skylerwhiteyo28964 Жыл бұрын
That's you not everyone reacts to stuff the same way
@bentlyluv1211
@bentlyluv1211 10 күн бұрын
You start with a susceptible group... someone with mental/financial/emotional issues (grieving, got out of a bad relationship, highly in debt, etc) then you add in a highly charismatic narcissist. It's really a simple equation. You say it could never be you, but then I know you've never met a highly charismatic narcissist. You don't see or smell the bs, you just join in. It's basically the same way people get in to abusive relationships.
@lindsaymcmillan9051
@lindsaymcmillan9051 2 жыл бұрын
This poor family.
@DrofJustice
@DrofJustice 2 жыл бұрын
The family will need information from people who have left of illegal activity or torts that may be successful in civil suits. A legal fund would be very helpful.
@WithoutACrystalBall
@WithoutACrystalBall 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! We know!
@louhortonsculpture
@louhortonsculpture 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this! I very much look forward to the next video. I like to know when there’s cult activity going on!
@joanfels6641
@joanfels6641 2 жыл бұрын
My feeling from just this one podcast that you should be very careful. These people are not like the Duggers in any way.
@jacqueline7973
@jacqueline7973 2 жыл бұрын
Yes thank you Katie for talking about this! People should know what to look for because this is a more unique situation (at least from my prospective). I’m here for all of this! Hopefully these dancers can get out safe
@heatherwillarose8009
@heatherwillarose8009 2 жыл бұрын
Vik is an amazing, self taught, dancer. He moved to the US from the Ukraine when he was eleven. It's sad to see these kids being taken advantage of by a religious psychopath.
@patrickrobertson7290
@patrickrobertson7290 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this. If you hadn’t brought it up, many of us wouldn’t have known about it. Keep up the good work! I just subscribed to your channel.
@elizabethsmithakaelizabeth3332
@elizabethsmithakaelizabeth3332 2 жыл бұрын
Why is a church managing dancers??? WTF?
@laurabeth7755
@laurabeth7755 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you do more videos on this. I'd love to hear if there are other family/friends speaking out. Thanks for always bringing us great content. I had never heard of them before.
@gertibell
@gertibell 2 жыл бұрын
Listening to you describe this group is sounding like an EXACT match to Jim Jones' church only with dancing. Even the pleas of the families sound exactly the same. Let's hope to God this doesn't end with anyone drinking the Kool-Aid.
@arosem7142
@arosem7142 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing… and NXIIM (or however they spelled it) those family members also tried to get their family away from them. Thankfully most of those leaders are in prison now.
@leisha9626
@leisha9626 2 жыл бұрын
You do a good job telling these stories/cases
@NotDone-bt2hz
@NotDone-bt2hz 5 ай бұрын
I hope you make more videos about this, many more because they have the potential to open members eyes and exposing fraud that should merit convictions.
@nancyannschroeck
@nancyannschroeck 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a very interesting story & I hope it has as many layers as this preview hints at. I appreciate you bringing new content to the channel & look forward to more info on this dancer/cult story. Thanks!! ✌
@amandashaban1711
@amandashaban1711 2 жыл бұрын
I've been DYING for this video! I just can't keep up with the insta posts lol
@ursulatee
@ursulatee 2 жыл бұрын
Wow how brave of you. Their music, dancers, especially Vik and Miranda, has become a mainstay for me. Thank you and my prayers are there. Thank you.
@JRH526
@JRH526 2 жыл бұрын
Katie thanks for bringing this to life. Keep at It. We are all concerned with this entire story. I’m so glad you’re covering it. I’ll be glued.
@marinna.realtor
@marinna.realtor 2 жыл бұрын
What’s so crazy is that this has been going on for so long and no one has exposed them. I’ve scrolled and seen so many of these dance videos, I would never imagine what could have been going on
@nettycakes5293
@nettycakes5293 2 жыл бұрын
Katie!! You brought it again!! I’ve been following you forever with the Duggers and now this! I’ve been getting bits and pieces and now you summed it up perfectly! Thank you so much for all your in-depth research and using your platform to help these young adults live free and get awarded for their talent the right way!
@WithoutACrystalBall
@WithoutACrystalBall 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@sheilas3282
@sheilas3282 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this…😁💕
@kimmcleod7092
@kimmcleod7092 2 жыл бұрын
Great job. Amazing beginnings to broaden awareness of narcissistic, mind controlling, predators searching for prey. May the Epstein Shin-s fall with empty pockets 👍.
@karacooper7154
@karacooper7154 17 сағат бұрын
This finally answered so much I have been curious about. Thank you!
@susanlewis1875
@susanlewis1875 2 жыл бұрын
Holy cow. That's some scary stuff, and I know it's only the tip of the iceberg. Thanks for what you do, Katie. Courage.
@charmaynehughes7285
@charmaynehughes7285 2 жыл бұрын
I love these dancers. These weird cults never end well. I don't know that I want to follow this as it sound so dark and evil. The Duggar saga wore me out. I hope your spotlighting this makes a huge difference Katie Joy. Bravo for undertaking this!!! I applaud you.
@moretoknowshow1887
@moretoknowshow1887 11 күн бұрын
The Netflix doc drops tomorrow, added it to my views for the week.
@abbynormal206
@abbynormal206 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Never heard about this group. thanks for digging deep!
@cremebrulee4759
@cremebrulee4759 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a cult. These "prophets" do a great disservice to God. Requiring that level of commitment and exerting that level of control are is clearly brain washing. Katie, you are doing important work. I initially thought you were just commenting on reality TV shows, but I have come to learn that you are doing so much more. Keep up the good work!
@toddbooth-smith5474
@toddbooth-smith5474 2 жыл бұрын
Intriguing! Can't wait to hear more. Unbelievable that this stuff goes on in the United States.
@jessicacohen6477
@jessicacohen6477 2 жыл бұрын
Lol it’s pretty believable if you look closer
@marymenges3788
@marymenges3788 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work Katie! Let’s get these dancers free, y’all! They might not realize it yet, but hopefully in time? They will realize that the world is NOT against them but completely the opposite. We are rooting for you guys to find your voice, and we are praying that you get your freedom. Because THAT is what god would really want at the end of the day.
@samanthaperez5696
@samanthaperez5696 8 күн бұрын
I'm so glad you have a video prior to the documentary!
@kathyglass2922
@kathyglass2922 7 ай бұрын
Mirandas marriage seems like it is "for promoting the videos" i say this, because i dont see chemistry. I see friendliness, but not chemistry of young love.
@worscohli
@worscohli 7 ай бұрын
on top theres no proof of their marraige 🤷🏾‍♂️
@kellyanneshereck1421
@kellyanneshereck1421 4 ай бұрын
If I may, representing GenX here. Kj is working on the marriage license, meanwhile, I have a question about the ring. You already know I’m old, but does Miranda’s ring look in style? I just don’t see it on a 25 year old in the year 2019(allegedly when they married). Perhaps it’s my eyes.
@deddie712
@deddie712 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you KJ this was very informative I didn't realize how deep this 7MM actually went great job on researching can't wait till next video
@christinethemommy6094
@christinethemommy6094 2 жыл бұрын
Wow... I've watched a lot of these dancers and had no idea. How awful 😞 Thank you so much for the hard work you do. You are so committed to bringing truth out and willing to dive deep for it. I'm sure you get ur share of hate. I remember watching a video where this women tried dragging ur name. I definitely left a comment lol Hey, I wanted to ask you something, have you watched "The Family" on Netflix? It's a documentary series from 2019. Not to be confused with Australian "Cult of the Family". The cult I'm referring to is a conservative Christian group that holds a strong influence in Washington, D.C., with global ambitions. I honestly think that's why Jim Bob Duggar wants so badly to be a position of power through politics. In this cult they believe politicians are chosen by God. Which is why conservative Christians groups support certain political leaders that say and do very bad things. This group is extremely powerful and far reaching and I think they sincerely need to be kept in the spotlight as they're running the world behind the scenes. I realize ur very busy with this interesting story. I'm just wondering if somewhere in the future you'd have any interest deep diving that story? I'd love to hear ur take. Anyway, be safe & take care
@Melly11394
@Melly11394 2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned how to convince law enforcement that it’s an issue. In my town, there is a cult called House of Prayer. They were getting in trouble with law enforcement because of child abuse claims and family members of cult members trying to get their relative back. I was in Jury Duty and heard a case where a dad was trying to get his two young sons back from the cult and while the cult was being investigated, all of a sudden the House of Prayer have the police department a pizza party, which was advertised on Facebook, and then the city threw the cult a parade!!!! No updates on the case after that.
@strangedolll
@strangedolll 2 жыл бұрын
this is so messed up
@trudat1498
@trudat1498 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing light to this situation Katie. It’s so sad that people are getting stuck in these situations
@elliefoust
@elliefoust 2 жыл бұрын
I would have never known about this… thank you for covering this.
@samanthakwait8782
@samanthakwait8782 2 жыл бұрын
I find this super interesting and am excited to see what you dive into and find Katie
@sisboombah9595
@sisboombah9595 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. What a sinister way to manipulate young people. As if we didn't have enough online dangers. Great journalism, Katie. It's clear you did a lot of work. Look forward to following this craziness.
@glorycloudwatch
@glorycloudwatch 2 жыл бұрын
Right! Right! Right!
@michellethompson7056
@michellethompson7056 2 жыл бұрын
I have enjoyed watching these dancers on TikTok but I had no idea this was the truth behind the videos. Please keep shedding light on this issue!
@gbecks3672
@gbecks3672 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea. I’ve been following these dancers for a few years now. Well two of them. The others after that. Just crazy
@MadameSomnambule
@MadameSomnambule 2 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about a tiktok cult from one of my younger cousins (technically the daughter of one of my paternal cousins, but I call her a cousin for simplicity's sake). It was weird hearing about a cult being on tiktok.
@glorycloudwatch
@glorycloudwatch 2 жыл бұрын
Wowza. This is absolute insanity. Can't wait to learn more about this Shin guy and his 2nd man. Bet the IRS would find a treasure trove of criminal violations too.
@briteeni7541
@briteeni7541 Жыл бұрын
Girl, kudos to your research! Even though facts speaks for themselves, thank you for providing facts❤️
@seb7584
@seb7584 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for brining this as this could affect many young adults. At which age I feel is an easy age to start a cult with.
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