Exactly.

ROTFLOL 😅

Lol

😂😂😂

That would be hilarious if Jackson could say that to her in cross!

So true ❤

@@Markgray-gq9ri Bs she's innocent your so blind

Unfortunately, it seems that way (many suspicions concerning this group of people (in the house that night) - where I believe what happened to John O’Keefe occurred. Based on the testimony of the many closely connected individuals in that house (possibly started in the basement or cellar(whichever you prefer to call it) then he was placed outside in the harsh elements. Too many variables that do not add up so far.

@@brynnleapierce5600 Who killed him and why?

@@Markgray-gq9riguilty of what? I’ve seen nothing thus far.

Absolutely no! She’s been so harassed as well as her family! Have you no compassion? I’d be defensive too! She’s not on trial here….and the Arias comparison is laughable! 🤭

​@@doreen1128 McMabe is NOT the first person/witness in the history of court cases to be harassed before trial. And just because I have an opinion on the way she's testifying, doesn't give you the right to call my compassion into question. Why did you feel the need to make it personal? Being harassed before trial does NOT excuse the way she is verbally attacking the defense whenever she feels uncomfortable or cornered, conveniently adding to her testimony, refusing to properly answer questions, rolling her eyes etc.

@gypsy_woman And who knew where the body awas. If I unalived a guy I would not go looking for him in a snowstorm with his hysterical gf. Come on.

She did though

Wrong! Normal response to an asshole like Atty Jackson. He's argumentative and totally confusing.

Have to agree although it brings me no pleasure.

She doesn’t disgust me though I think her responses seem unfavorable to the trial.

​@@LauraA-zn3hninteresting how every one of their responses are very unfavorable to the case...all the McAlberts, Higgins, Proctor, etc. I assure you these are not mere coincidences.

Shes turning crimson as she lies.

So when jen left she didnt see a bidy and just prior she heard nothing.

Yes the truth is easy to remember on the other hand a lie is hard to remember this woman couldnt lie straight in bed toxic person

This!

@TashiaRedd Seriously read the comment. You'll never make a lawyer you can't even understand a simple comment. That is not what I said. Why are all Read fans so stupid?

​​@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip Even if Karen hit him-Dr.Russel testified&Autopsy will show beaten to death dog bites & hypothermia-Brian & Colin Albert & Higgins brought John to basement.He reported Colin for dealing drugs-MOTIVE‼️When Karen gets acquitted The FBI will indict The Alberts, Trooper Proctor &Tully with their 3,074 page report‼️

So good and so true!

And the house should have been considered a part of the crime scene (yet unbelievably it was conveniently left out of the equation. I find that forensically irresponsible. The body tells a story & where it was found….. Then the house should have been the other part of the story

and especially a first responder would.. it’s literally becomes apart of their instincts..

@AnthonyMonaco Your comment is a stupid, boring waste of space

@rvonmaur And contaminate the scene? You put yourself in danger.

@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip u would check to see if the person is still alive u wouldnt think about contaminating the scene u would be thinking about saving the person . The attorneys point is there was no body in the yard they were after killing him inside the house . Its your comment that is stupid but here i have good news for u Anna No Brain No Tumor . .

Yes I agree and they say they found 47 or 48 pieces of tail light in the yard that is crazy unbelievable not believable

@thecherokeerose Maybe Karen hit him in the back of the head 3 times as he walked towards the party? Someone or something hit the back of his head. Who did John turn his back on? Who found him under 4 inches of snow?

Im shocked a prosecutor took this case.

@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip and the injuries to his face and the deep lacerationd on his arm were caused by what? falling on a soft soggy wet lawn?

Among MANY other problems w this case! They need to find out who REALLY killed John and give justice to his family!

Have you seen Wendy Adelson testify? She was like this too

Right. If she was being truthful then why do you need to read every paper that is associated with the question unless you want to make sure you keep that same story..I'm sure the jury sees that this is a coverup and they are framing her to protect the cop and his friends and family m for God sakes the cop that trooper Proctor is best friends with this lady's bro in law that was a cop at the time and owned the house..

Yeah some things are easy to forget like what I ate for dinner 2 years ago. But you would think if your “friend” was murdered and you were at the scene and part of it you might not forget at least the very important parts. Of course she only recalls the same details as everybody else 😂what a joke this is.

Her and her husband are veey secretive about the higgins vehicle plow. I think the vehiclevplow and suv were both possibly involved.

@astrialindaH Probably the blood soaked into the ground. Maybe John was hit near the metal box, and tried to crawl to the house and collapsed. Who put his phone under his back so no-one could see his phone ringing?

This woman appears to have NO difficulty testifying…steady and sharp

The judge is friends with most people involved in the case .

Her kids call the judge aunt bev, thats why

😮😮😮

Because Aunty Bev loves these liars.

Coward hiding behind anonymity

😂😂😂😂😂

Forreal I think she’s just so used to saying it!!

I cannot even deal! I am assuming most of us that have been watching this, are like me and watch a lot of these cases. So when I hear the prosecutor object and the judge say “sustained” to almost every single objection I am screaming out loud “ what is your objection???” Why don’t they have to explain their objection?? I can’t stand it!! 😂😢😅

@user Do not help anyone, ever, is the message in this sad story

She sure does and she doesn't realize how much more she is hurting her case. Caught lying. Editorializing every answer except her side. Her side are yes and no answers and for Karen's side every answer has to be everything BUT the answer. They did it. She lied and so did the girl on the stand now.

She is powerful. She’s not going to bow down…would you? She’s not on trial here geez

@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip who was helping? who were thru helping they don't sound like they cared about Karen? they were so nasty to her the whole morning omfg the bitchiness, that's not help....she was helping herself to look for John she wasn't helping John or Karen or kerry she should have never organised where people should park or be looking out yhe window and door instead of enjoying the party at her house? who texts people where to park if they know the house, the area and if they are a cop? makes no sense. I don't text my friends where to park. It's all lies.

She's not on trial yet but looking into the future yes she will be on trial​@@doreen1128

😂

I don't know if she's lying... but how do you go in front of numerous grand juries and not remember EXACTLY what she said. She is in front of a jury and doesn't remember everything that happened on the night and the next morning of a day her friend was found dead.

P.S. Can someone explain to me why they keep going on and on about parked cars?? I just started watching.

It's very hard to understand what it's like to be in a situation such as being on a witness stand testifying at a murder trial unless you have actually had to do this. It's easy to look at someone doing it and think about what you would do or say or how you would act or respond. I have personally been in this situation. I can confidently say that it was way more complex than how I would have assumed it to be before hand. Some of the details are similar as the victim she is testifying about was someone she knew and claims was her friend. The trial I testified at was for the murder of someone I considered a friend. One major difference is I had never met, saw, or knew the person who killed my friend. I did not know this person existed until after I watched him shoot my friend. With that being said, the only thing I can think of to explain this womens behavior and demeanor, and the way she is answering or not answering the questions she is being asked that makes sense is that she is covering for someone or several someone's that are more important to her than her friends John and Karen. Period.

Jen M. Is guilty with her involvement. KR is being framed.

Cuz she's lying

In situations like this you really are damned if you do or damned if you don't. React too over the top you're guilty. React too timidly also guilty.

Who cares, she's hot.

​@@user-qr2kh6uh6qHot?? Jennifer?? Are your standards that low? 😅

​@@user-qr2kh6uh6qwow! Your 2 brain cells and a synapse deduced that all on their own?? Good for you!!

​@@thelastroseofsummer2817I agree with you on that. However, she has a very selective memory. She is over the top with having him find certain statements statements

It's very hard to understand what it's like to be in a situation such as being on a witness stand testifying at a murder trial unless you have actually had to do this. It's easy to look at someone doing it and think about what you would do or say or how you would act or respond. I have personally been in this situation. I can confidently say that it was way more complex than how I would have assumed it to be before hand. Some of the details are similar as the victim she is testifying about was someone she knew and claims was her friend. The trial I testified at was for the murder of someone I considered a friend. One major difference is I had never met, saw, or knew the person who killed my friend. I did not know this person existed until after I watched him shoot my friend. With that being said, the only thing I can think of to explain this womens behavior and demeanor, and the way she is answering or not answering the questions she is being asked that makes sense is that she is covering for someone or several someone's that are more important to her than her friends John and Karen. Period.

That should be considered as to why they all appeared very argumentative & hostile at times

Do you think “conspiracy theory” means “anything the government currently disputes”?

If it walks like a duck,talks like a duck,it's a duck!! Let Karen go now!!! Hos long before an acquittal??!!

Hos long does it take to doctor a video?!!😅

@june Wouldn't you be sharp with Reads $1,000,000 stuck up your arse?

Agree the culprits are framing her. It’s plain obvious.

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Same 😊Quite a change!

Us too

@greggroppo Bleh

​@@AnnaChristie-vp4ipyou know he's good. C'mon now, admit it😊

@@marshapieroni6677 she’s either an Albert or McCabe don’t bother 😂

Hostile is more like it. 😂

@DeeMorris Oh the Read mob thinking they can stop me saying how dumb you are? Not likely. Is that your contribution? PATHETIC

Because the defense atty as an ahole.

She’s arrogant

Liars can’t remember the lies they have told .

It's exactly what they've done to countless others a million times in places like Canton. The McAlberts, the DA, the judge, the Canton & State Police are used to framing innocent people and getting away with it. Who's got the money to hire someone like Alan Jackson and fly him in from LA to fight their endless corruption? If the factual circumstances documenting their criminal conspiracy weren't so compelling, and the media attention so widespread, they'd go through the motions and simply walk away again. They didn't anticipate and weren't prepared for such a well prepared legal defense, and it has really taken them by surprise for the first time in their lives.

Welcome to the two-tiered justice system.

This has been my thought as well. Us poor folks haven't got a chance!

That’s how life has always been…money gives you the best shot at life. Financial freedom is the ultimate goal in life. Don’t left people fool you into thinking you’re supposed to be humble and poor to enter the kingdom of heaven. Heaven is while you’re alive not while you’re dead

Like the entire Black community! ( Not excluding others communities)

especially with an iphone. we don't have brick phones anymore. how many of us have made actual butt dials on an iphone/android now with a lock screen? makes 0 sense

They were trying to find John’s phone to put it with his body. It’s so obvious.

Right

She thinks she's a cop. They do the same thing on thecstand

My thoughts also- if she was truly innocent in all of this she would be much less annoyed and bothered by the questions. She’d answer them directly.

​@@KyP-xq4rzyou're exactly right I was thinking the same thing

exactly. couldn’t have summed it up any better. every time Jenn McCabe gets hung up on a question she looks at the jury, mustering all the authenticity possible for a guilty party, and reinforces her role of ‘distraught friend’ and reiterates how upset she was with finding John.

And she keeps repeating that she turned her phone over willingly. Quick, someone get her a gold star for that so she can get the acknowledgement she is seeking for this and shut the eff up about it.

If Ms. McCabe was being truthful there should be no reason for her anger & agitation that behavior puts up red flags to me.

I agree.

🤣

Right!! Don’t let her near you!! She’s a SAVAGE SNAKE!

I can only hope Karen’s lawyers sees this statement/question. Fingers crossed

.....hum a married woman!!! I 💬 she had a crushhhhhhhh

@cherylreid She was probably concerned because the driver Read had been drinking all night.

@@anastaiber952 I don't think she had a crush. I think that the texts were sent as a cover because Brian planned to beat john up. Maybe because Colin was in trouble with the law and John was the one who charged him

Really great point!!! Isn't it also a bit odd that after they found John that she never checked in to see how Karen was doing or to collaborate the story with Karen as she did with carrie?🧐

They got rid of the dog and made sure it disappeared so they couldn't check to match any bite marks

Must be all that alcohol, kills brain cells

​@@deadmanswife3625 Dr.Russel testified&Autopsy will show beaten to death dog bites & hypothermia-Brian & Colin Albert & Higgins brought John to basement.He reported Colin for dealing drugs-MOTIVE‼️

Exactly!

Yes! Exactly.

Yes, and they don’t use a leaf blower on a crime scene. They also don’t put evidence in red solo cups! They secure the scene and call another department to bring them evidence bags, evidence vials, evidence boxes, etc. etc. etc., if their own department doesn’t have these items. They also document everything at the scene! They photograph the body, if possible. They document where the blood is at! They most certainly DONT scoop up the snow with blood on it and not label where this blood was recovered from! Horrible example of “police work”

Yes. 100%. I was an eye witness to a murder of one of my friends and absolutely that is what happens. Almost every single thing I have heard so far about how this case has been handled since the first moment is being conducted the polar opposite of how the case I was a witness to and also had to testified at the trial was. This shit is blowing my mind.

@Kallie And statements need to be dated and signed. This is so screwed I doubt we will ever know how John was hurt and who actually did lea e him in the snow. It's really evil.

Yes, she does seem to have a rather high-powered perception of herself these personality styles do not like To be called out. What bothers me is that the house was not considered part of a crime scene (would you accept the people inside claiming Mr. O’Keefe never came in that house? I would not under these circumstances.

@brynn So cops hurt another cop who is liked by the community and throw him in the garden in the snow. Unbelievable.

@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip Not a revelation, especially if they're trying to protect someone else and or because not all police officers like one another just because they share the same career discipline 👈

@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip Maybe you should follow the trial. 🤦

She sure did 100%, She will be charge later

Her looks are still gross no matter

She looks fine to me.

Especially when she cannot back it up 😂

She is being accused 😂of murder and a cover up, she has every right to be upset and protect herself. Basically a drunk karen backed into her drunk boyfriend at someone else's home. These poor people are being attacked by crazy 🤪 true crime conspiracy theory nuts. Karen is guilty, just like avery

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I agree

I absolutely agree! I've said this long ago. She complains about being harassed and she acts just like a mean girl that hasn't martured since high school!

There must be other witnesses with a better memory and hopefully were designated drivers. Obviously she had been drinking.

She isn't very smart.

Because she's lying! Snaggletooth has an attitude.

Exactly! Thank you for saying this.

5 text in 13 min? What is that?

She was trying to find his phone to delete ring footage!! So obvious!! Like a guy said on here “ all the butt dialing, bunch of assholes all talking all night”!! 😂

Big butt

I guess that would be called butt redialing😂😂

And it was six times in 19 minutes to the same person...

She didn't have Karen's. Karen had Johns niece call her.

@@DebraLuttrell-qx2il That's odd since they were "friends".

I 💬 this lady had a crush on J

If I’m on the jury SHE is Karen Reads “reasonable doubt” and bc of this woman Karen walks 💯🙄it’s sufferable.

Bev? Another friend of the deceased?

I agree. And what’s very interesting and relative to this, the lead investigators text messages to his friends will turn out to be vile gossip about Karen originating from Jen, passed to Proctors sister (Courtney) over 67 phone calls in less than 8 months, then communicated to Proctor in his daily calls to his sister!

I think the dog wasn’t there by morning and his daughter took her . Even the most mild dogs will react and I assume they didn’t close their doors because they had a dog .

Nope. That is someone who doesn't want to be seen on bodycam cause they probably have injuries or are terrible liars.

it's not rational either that the police did not inquire when the house if anybody heard anything, and why they never entered that home under subpoena

The owner rehomed it

Now imagine being on the jury and listening to this. If I was the commonwealth, I would be furious at these witnesses if she is guilty because their behavior alone is tanking this case. We have all dealt with liars and no one likes being lied to or people who nitpick every single thing.

A hot monster.

Typical upper middle class soccer mom who thinks a lot of herself. She seems very catty.

She needs to save her butt to dial 😅

And you believe her family beat 😅okeefe to deatb?? 😅😅😅 no way, a drunk karen backed into her drunk boyfriend, that's what happened

Or just really loves herself. She's in it for her.

@@JenniferMoleskior both

I agree, keeps giving her the evil eye between answers. But why?

@@notthatronjohnson1186Maybe bc Karen took her along for the ride all the while screaming at them and yelling “I hit him, did I hit him?” In turn, when they discovered the body of her friend, he’s dead. And Karen was the last person with John …

Seems like they all do. It shows the bias.

Is it or is someone asking her questions to confuse her timeline? The defense is doing this to make her testimony scattered and to discredit everything she said, wrote or testified to mean as she is hiding real credible information. That is the job of an attorney to ask questions to make a picture that possibly does not exist if he trying to illustrate reasonable doubt. Have you ever been on a stand as a witness? It's like walking through airport security. Yeah, you have nothing to hide but someone your anxious. If it were me & I bet you, if I were telling the truth and someone was calling me a liar in a room full of people & across the nation in this case, somehow a big happy smile is not on my face. An attorney twisting facts would confuse anyone and testimony gets confused. BTW, I am not saying KR is guilty either. I am just saying that this probably a normal reaction that happens every day in courtrooms.

​@@dennisdonoghue9202I can see that. Everything is a trap in the enemies house. With that being said there was a lot of simple questions she ran from. A lot of answering questions no one asked. A lot of inconsistencies she can't button up.

So what do you know? You were there?

Bot on bot confrontation here 😂😂😂😂

Exactly.

😂

Exactly. That says everything.

Right! She has amazing memory when it helps her but then has to editorialize and add all this nonsense to her response of a YES OR NO question. She also should stop acting like social media is an actual person or place. If she wants the online issue to stop all she has to do is STOP GOING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. Her uppity'ness is so cringe.

Good point

Seriously! That’s huge. She was waiting by the window for him to come in and then he never did. And she never wondered why??

It DOES look really really bad and IF she had nothing to do with anything and isn’t lieing I hope she reads every comment about herself so she can see how rude she appears and disrespectful to the court, for what reason?! Can you imagine being married to her or working with her 😮🙄🤦🏼‍♀️😭 I could NEVER. I don’t know if Karen ran him over or not but as her being someone from inside the house if I was on the jury I would be side eying her so hard her name could be “reasonable doubt” for Karen 💯🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️ She seems like a rude, condescending, b word. Also if they saw John get there why didn’t they go look outside when he stopped texting, he could have simply been dropped off and so dr’nk he didn’t make it inside so when the plow came around it could have gotten him, they say it’s the biggest plow the town has, why wouldn’t they just go outside since he wasn’t answering but they knew he was just there and knew he had been drinking most of the ppl there were police they should have known to at the very least check to make sure he wasn’t passed out dr+nk outside in the snow 💯🙄🤦🏼‍♀️ Poor John he may never get justice but I definitely pray that no one is wrongly convicted and if anyone actually did this I hope they are sentenced.

She’s scared to answer any question without asking to look at a transcript to refresh her memory!!! She’s clearly lying through her missing teeth

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Oh yeah absolutely..

They did. But it was SO obvious that Karen Read drunkenly ran over O Keefe that the investigation turned to her and not the innocent witnesses.

An entire radius of that property “should have been considered a crime scene” Anyone who has worked a time crime scene would have done that unless…..????????

Pretty easy when the people inside are all cops and the lead detective is a close friend of the family. This is so dirty.

@@jeffhampton7405 That is very true & it all makes for a convoluted narrative leading to doubt & questionable intent. I'm hoping at some point actual evidence will be submitted in order to determine facts instead of what seems to be a tail of deception⁉️

@@jeffhampton7405 Observing from the sidelines I have to say 👉 there are so many convoluted stories, the more you hear the more doubt is created & too many questions w/o answers. Most of all the lack of convincing evidence but instead a poorly constructed tale that weaves a web of fabrications 👈👈👈👈

I agree. The anger just oozes off of her.

That woman looks like she has rabies when she speaks.

OMGosh, she is a shapeshifter! Has anyone asked if there was a full moon that night?

There was a point she leaned forward and it scared the hell out of me, I wish I had the timestamp! It was scary!

the judge is just as dirty as all the cops

No, your princess Karen Read is a LIAR.. And a murderer.

She's not a Jen, she's 100% a Jennifer lol. Jen's are better than this.

Jen swallowed a tooth!

With perjury and murder

@@James-pq5tm yes 👍🏻 !!

Yes! They absolutely gaslit her in her panic. It’s demonic to do that to someone, absolutely EVIL. 💔

If I was on the jury I’d sue this woman for mental anguish, pain, and suffering 💯

Were you there? These people have been constantly harassed in doing their children. Wouldn’t you be defensive when it comes to your family. I sure as heck would be. She’s not in trial. The murderer girlfriend is!

@@doreen1128 yes...protective of her sisters family and the hidden truth that she is also privy to. has nothing to do with being harassed

Bird's of a feather! 😕🐢

I do believe they were all harassed. Is TurtleBoy out of jail yet? Go look at his charges.

She’s way smarter than her husband. He’s a real dumb ass. I’d be snarky too if I had to talk to him everyday!!

Absolutely

I don’t know how he does it id go ahead and give up my law license, most disrespectful witness I’ve ever seen!

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I thought the same thing!!!

So he could listen in.

Problem is she knows exactly what happened.

Her problem is she's a textbook narcissist.

Imagine being harassed for 2 years.

​@@debkb7imagine being framed for 2 years?.

Imagine being dead for 2 years