WOKENESS Alert: California May BAN Public Schools From Saying What They Think

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The Hill

4 ай бұрын

Briahna Joy Gray and Robby Soave discuss a proposal at the University of California that could curb free speech on some websites. #CA #Speech
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@mariociaramellano7509
@mariociaramellano7509 4 ай бұрын
Tolerance will reach such a level that intelligent people will be banned from thinking so as not to offend the imbeciles. Fyodor Dostoevsky
@mal35m-dw2qv
@mal35m-dw2qv 4 ай бұрын
And here we are right now.
@donpietruk1517
@donpietruk1517 4 ай бұрын
Everyone needs to read more Dostoyevsky. A very insightful man.
@michaelplunkett5124
@michaelplunkett5124 4 ай бұрын
Professors duty is to teach their students to think for themselves, not to parrot what to think.
@quoianakomis4657
@quoianakomis4657 4 ай бұрын
Agreed!!! Teach them how to think , not what to think!
@louisburton5830
@louisburton5830 4 ай бұрын
This! Bri's take misses the balance issue while trying to make a balance argument.
@blackhercules1753
@blackhercules1753 4 ай бұрын
In today's America, college presidents and professors risk their professional careers teaching anything that goes against the wishes of the donor class.
@_TheLONEwolf
@_TheLONEwolf 4 ай бұрын
@@quoianakomis4657 In reality these days, teaching them what to think would be a step up from the current teaching them not to think,
@snackentity5709
@snackentity5709 4 ай бұрын
In this era, blind tribal activism is academia's core principle, not truth seeking.
@drowningpooralice5505
@drowningpooralice5505 4 ай бұрын
As a Gen X guy, the concept of "feeling safe" is an idea I'll never understand. Imagine thinking the world should conform to one's feelings. I was raised to understand life's unfair and nobody is interested in my feelings so I should keep them to myself. I actually experience guilt and the anticipation ridicule if I complain.
@user-ps1ft1hy4j
@user-ps1ft1hy4j 4 ай бұрын
Bri, the LAST thing I want on campus is for students to feel "safe" from anyone's opinion. College is where you go to be out from under the umbrella of your parents(whether they like it or not), community, and assumptions, and forced to consider less narrow ideas than you've come to expect to be surrounded with and comforted by. It is a place for intellectual broadening and adventure, and there is no way that is going to occur on any meaningful level without some degree of discomfort. Perfect comfort is not always ideal. I don't want young people to be stagnant; I want them to feel challenged and then do something productive about it. And that does not mean demanding "safe spaces" or saying they feel "unsafe" at every turn.
@JuneBarbone
@JuneBarbone 4 ай бұрын
Agree 👍
@Sukharno2121
@Sukharno2121 4 ай бұрын
that would be ideal if colleges were like that. they are not.
@user-ps1ft1hy4j
@user-ps1ft1hy4j 4 ай бұрын
@@Sukharno2121 They were when I went. At least the ones that didn't requiring your pledging to believe in a particular religion.
@erickah5947
@erickah5947 4 ай бұрын
@@user-ps1ft1hy4jThey aren’t like that any more. Online, You can consistently see professors as activists. They are often not presenting both sides of a situation. Students have been claiming, for quite a few years, they have to write their papers in favor of their professors views to get a good grade. They are being told what to think, not how to think.
@doubleohhhhseven
@doubleohhhhseven 4 ай бұрын
Amen.
@pauliseri935
@pauliseri935 4 ай бұрын
This will continue on to every ethnicity. This will not go well. To teach young minds that just because someone disagrees, it's ok to lash out. It already is a problem. It's just piling on
@scratchpenny
@scratchpenny 4 ай бұрын
Yep. In academia, they call it "calling out" bad or inappropriate behavior, but we see how it plays out in real life.
@roystonboodoo7525
@roystonboodoo7525 4 ай бұрын
.. In all things Moderation...
@cbhaessig
@cbhaessig 4 ай бұрын
Its how communism works
@suzannecooper5323
@suzannecooper5323 4 ай бұрын
So we should teach young minds to sit down and shut up while their taxes are funding unjust foreign wars. They shouldn’t even pay attention to how our government no longer upholds the values under which we were founded. It’s a good thing the politicians have lost their morals completely and lie to our faces with impunity. Let’s teach our youth that they can’t change anything so why bother.
@kritikal3172
@kritikal3172 4 ай бұрын
Colleges are corporations not educational institutions now day's. Save your money and learn a trade if possible
@11thstory
@11thstory 4 ай бұрын
Robbie is correct on this one. If the Palestine/Israel conflict discussion is part of an educational curriculum like history or an ethic's class it's fine. Faculty should not be publishing any political statements on a publicly funded school website. It's a slippery slope. Student organizations should be allowed to protest outside of the classroom without fear of punishment. Faculty should be able to be advisors to those organizations.
@roystonboodoo7525
@roystonboodoo7525 4 ай бұрын
Don't established history classes allow discussions.. or is it a case of memorizing and regurgitating.
@GJK3
@GJK3 4 ай бұрын
Problem is you'll get two different versions of history in that class
@BWolf00
@BWolf00 4 ай бұрын
@11thstory I agreed with what you said but have concerns for "Faculty should be able to be advisors to those organizations." Remember the bakery defamation lawsuit against the Oberlin College resulting in a payout of $36.6M. It started in 2016 with three arrested for shopping lifting that morphed into claims of racism and protests where "Oberlin professors and deans joined the student protests." Sometimes the role of "advisor" gets blurred. Somewhat topical...the role of "military advisors" readily comes to mind.
@crbondur
@crbondur 4 ай бұрын
Personal political statements need to be made on personal social media accounts/web pages/etc. School pages should ONLY be for the school or school-sponsored organization. That said, some of the reactions on college campuses, including official statements, to the Oct 7 terrorist attacks against Israel have been the height of victim blaming and are repugnant. The schools should face consequences, including losing grants and endowments, based on those statements the public deems inappropriate.
@AndrewGarnerAdventures
@AndrewGarnerAdventures 4 ай бұрын
You have students getting admin disenrolled from schools for posting on there personal pages
@queenkahlua579
@queenkahlua579 4 ай бұрын
Incorrect. The Supreme Court ruled that corporations like schools and businesses are “people” and people have the freedom of speech.
@JG-qt3pn
@JG-qt3pn 4 ай бұрын
The WEF's attempt at implementing the Cloward-Piven strategy in Ireland failed when those two questions were resoundingly defeated and Klaus called Varadkar home. This is a version of that. That's why the American press barely covered it - a loss for the WEF cannot be publicized and give people the impression they don't have to accept this.
@clemdane
@clemdane 4 ай бұрын
Universities are supposed to challenge your beliefs and make you think, not make you feel "safe"
@bret44
@bret44 4 ай бұрын
The Bill of Rights is meant to protect individual rights. Treating faceless entities like universities, corporations, etc is a huge problem. The supreme court ruled corporations can give unlimited money to politician, because corporations are treated like individuals and money is speech.
@scratchpenny
@scratchpenny 4 ай бұрын
You are right on!
@flybirds2024
@flybirds2024 4 ай бұрын
I don't think any public university should put out any political statements at all, since they are publicly funded then they should not take an official stand on any political issue!
@krisniznik3953
@krisniznik3953 4 ай бұрын
But how far can they go in their non-political stance? Currently, public universities also accept corporate support, such as defense contractors, so should they not allow a peace activist on a book tour to speak?
@BajatheChickenMan
@BajatheChickenMan 4 ай бұрын
The rot has infected every facet of life.
@Mamarchist
@Mamarchist 4 ай бұрын
That's not really possible. As most to do with history, religion, and with the buying up of research and curriculum by corporations that also lobby, even science, are political.
@TheChase008
@TheChase008 4 ай бұрын
@@krisniznik3953 I think this gentleman is saying that the university should not promote a certain bias but allow free speech and freedom of thought on campus. That means allowing speakers from either the left or right.
@krisniznik3953
@krisniznik3953 4 ай бұрын
@@TheChase008 That would be best. If only that was what they were doing.
@whip_pan
@whip_pan 4 ай бұрын
I'd like a diverse university that actually only allows flying the home country's flag, the American flag. No exceptions.
@916Motorsports
@916Motorsports 4 ай бұрын
Solidarity statement are not needed in an Academic setting…
@chungoman280
@chungoman280 4 ай бұрын
Bri, it’s not doxxing if they signed their names to the letter …
@WlmaAlexender-zl6nx
@WlmaAlexender-zl6nx 4 ай бұрын
This country dies a little more every day.
@youtubeknight53
@youtubeknight53 4 ай бұрын
Due to republicans
@justadragonnamemarcus1751
@justadragonnamemarcus1751 4 ай бұрын
​@@youtubeknight53nice Bait but failed
@mal35m-dw2qv
@mal35m-dw2qv 4 ай бұрын
@@youtubeknight53 Really? Who has been in charge for 12 of the last 15.5 years? How well did we do under the first 8 years of O's new normal? How well did we do under the next 3 years of T and then 1 year of rule by Fauxci? Finally how well are we doing for 3.5 years under B's "greatest for the middle class ever" administration.
@ladyladychickchick9133
@ladyladychickchick9133 4 ай бұрын
It's always been a dead space.
@You51Dog
@You51Dog 4 ай бұрын
A “Critical Race and Ethnic Studies” department is itself a political statement.
@christopherortiz9330
@christopherortiz9330 4 ай бұрын
California is the home base of woke mutant behavior.
@myrnabragg9313
@myrnabragg9313 4 ай бұрын
Why not have a debate voicing both sides and let the students decide on their own. Maybe it will encourage people to look into the situation of all sides
@marinaton
@marinaton 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. Equal opportunity to express any views on any topic without being cancelled or harassed should be ensured instead of shutting everyone up or struggling to decide how to censor appropriately.
@scottmcloughlin4371
@scottmcloughlin4371 4 ай бұрын
There's not "2 sides." Foreign policy is not "partisan." Partisanship refers to our parties. Politics refers to policies. Domestic policies. Foreign policies.
@GAMakin
@GAMakin 4 ай бұрын
​@@scottmcloughlin4371 Did you get that line of "reasoning" from an Online University?
@scottmcloughlin4371
@scottmcloughlin4371 4 ай бұрын
I studied Philosophy of Science at Harvard. No kidding. And I worked for US State Dept and US Army in DC. I'm not guessing. I'm telling.@@GAMakin
@GAMakin
@GAMakin 4 ай бұрын
@@scottmcloughlin4371 Hmm... DIDACTIC vs COLLOQUIAL. The debate rages.
@michele36618
@michele36618 4 ай бұрын
Why do I need to know what my college thinks about current politics. Just shut up and teach me. If they want to have a class on certain subjects then do that, but a college publicly making a statement about whatever is going on is pointless
@davidpar2
@davidpar2 4 ай бұрын
No institution collecting public funds, i.e. taxes, has any authority to infringe on the Bill of Rights. Of course, when has the United States Constitution ever gotten in the way of California’s criminality…
@skontheroad
@skontheroad 4 ай бұрын
Just as people should not post personal opinions on workplace sites and spaces online, nor should they be allowed to do so on University sites! Same theory. Same problem. Same rules should apply!
@jayroxy9040
@jayroxy9040 4 ай бұрын
For institutions that go overboard on "inclusion", why would they ever feel the need to pick a side politically?
@Polit_Burro
@Polit_Burro 4 ай бұрын
How can one "go overboard" "on inclusion"?Are you saying that there are legitimate reasons to exclude people who have done nothing illegal, only on the basis of their political views? If so, you might be more at home in a traditional banana republic.
@btr333
@btr333 4 ай бұрын
@@Polit_Burro Does your "inclusion" include white people?😂
@jayroxy9040
@jayroxy9040 4 ай бұрын
@@Polit_Burro DEI. Nuff said.
@Polit_Burro
@Polit_Burro 4 ай бұрын
@@jayroxy9040 You didn't manage to say much at all.
@Polit_Burro
@Polit_Burro 4 ай бұрын
@@btr333 Yes, It does Does your sense of victimhood have any bounds at all? 🤡😥
@VesuviusH70
@VesuviusH70 4 ай бұрын
Did she just say that pro-Palestenian speech is being suppressed on college campuses? Does she live on Earth?
@missyolygo
@missyolygo 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, that’s just another lie.
@Polit_Burro
@Polit_Burro 4 ай бұрын
When I was born in the 1960s, the free speech fight on campuses was also being fought. Young kids today probably have never heard the name Mario Savio. It's a shame that each generation has to re-learn the lessons of the past, and re-fight the struggles of their grandparents.
@clemdane
@clemdane 4 ай бұрын
Today the kids are the ones who want speech bans
@916Motorsports
@916Motorsports 4 ай бұрын
Departments should not be political, only educational… no exceptions…
@GAMakin
@GAMakin 4 ай бұрын
Well... I GUESS... OZ has SPOKEN!
@Polit_Burro
@Polit_Burro 4 ай бұрын
nonsense.
@GAMakin
@GAMakin 4 ай бұрын
@@Polit_Burro 100%
@EchoJ
@EchoJ 4 ай бұрын
Well, _that’s_ a slippery slope if I’ve ever seen one. Since when can politics and education be so cleanly cut from one another?
@crowe6961
@crowe6961 4 ай бұрын
@@EchoJ When education becomes indoctrination or activism.
@maxpowertastic
@maxpowertastic 4 ай бұрын
Seems like schools were able to stay pretty non-political until very recently. Why can’t they do so now?
@scratchpenny
@scratchpenny 4 ай бұрын
Because it is being pushed. I am in graduate school right now, and there are all sorts of recently updated curriculum requirements to include the new social justice language and worldview. For instance, in my required ethics course, I learned that the characteristics of white supremacy culture are "perfectionism, a sense of urgency, defensiveness, quantity over quality, worship over the written word, paternalism, either/or thinking, power hoarding, fear of open conflict, individualism, objectivity, and a right to comfort." These characteristics are so generalized that they could apply to virtually every human society, and there was no research data to support them as inherently "white supremacist" -just a link to a cultural diversity training website. I brought this up during a class discussion, and the professor could not defend any of it. Yet, they continue to teach it as if it is factual. I kid you not. Students in universities are being taught propaganda.
@Mamarchist
@Mamarchist 4 ай бұрын
Because corporations own everything from politicians to text books
@frankvonfrauner
@frankvonfrauner 4 ай бұрын
They call it "The Long March through the institutions" It's been openly talked about since the 1960s.
@skontheroad
@skontheroad 4 ай бұрын
I just watched a video of a class that was posted online. Albeit not a very high brow school, but college nonetheless! And while the kids did most of the talking, most of the things that they said, and what the teacher told them throughout the lesson, were not true! And it was factual statements that the professor just let go without a word! As a parent, I would be very upset if my kids were learning actual lies, such as Gazans live in a concentration camp. Or an open air prison. College is EXACTLY the place where they should be told, by their professor, NO! That's not true! It may be all over the internet, but it is still a lie, and here it the truth of the situation.... And then he should proceed to explain how it is a border. And that Israel does NOT encircle Gaza -- they also have a border with Egypt, etc. etc....
@ReemTahir
@ReemTahir 4 ай бұрын
That’s not true. California state universities were always political and places for activism. It’s part of their tradition.
@christopher7824
@christopher7824 4 ай бұрын
Officially grant certain groups special privileges to foment division.
@Kehvan
@Kehvan 4 ай бұрын
9:50 - Yes, Brei, we know how selective your memory is!
@missyolygo
@missyolygo 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ShannonWmFleming
@ShannonWmFleming 4 ай бұрын
The idea that a university could craft a "statement of unity" is an impossible mission.
@danboyd6180
@danboyd6180 4 ай бұрын
Long way from “While I disagree with what you say, I will defend to the death; your right to say so” I keep pointing this out and haven’t got a good counter argument
@berkvjli
@berkvjli 4 ай бұрын
So what is the point to go waste your time to fake learn if you are not allowed to use your brain to real think?
@lovelydianna5930
@lovelydianna5930 4 ай бұрын
@georgemetesky5519
@georgemetesky5519 4 ай бұрын
You sound just like Ricky from Trailer Park Boys 😂
@johnc3525
@johnc3525 4 ай бұрын
To know if it's a safe environment? News flash: your ideas don't need to be safe. If you need to make sure everyone around you agrees with you, specially in an university environment, you don't belong in there. Even more reason not to make any statements on the website, stop this need to "feel safe".
@ObserversOfHumanity
@ObserversOfHumanity 4 ай бұрын
1984 is coming alive.
@Fgji230
@Fgji230 4 ай бұрын
Web pages should keep it professional. Even open debates have norms and rules. It's a fine line between oppression and freedom.
@johnmoreno9636
@johnmoreno9636 4 ай бұрын
Well, if professors teach whatever political bias they want, and you as a student do not like it and oppose it, what do you think happens to their grade? Can the student afford a D or C because they oppose the conclusions of the professor? In a perfect world, the professor would measure the validity of their arguments - do you really think this is happening now?
@katyw8201
@katyw8201 4 ай бұрын
It is. I lived it.
@michel3691
@michel3691 4 ай бұрын
This rule can be looked at in a few ways. The website that belongs to their employer should not post personal messages and ideas. In the classroom or on any personal site, it shouldn't be censored. If someone gets mad, they need to learn how to work through their own personal issues.
@Polit_Burro
@Polit_Burro 4 ай бұрын
Have you ever heard of "tenure"? Professors have it. It's like asbestos underwear.
@michel3691
@michel3691 4 ай бұрын
@@Polit_Burro Maybe academia needs to do a remediation.
@Polit_Burro
@Polit_Burro 4 ай бұрын
@@michel3691 Maybe the United Snakes should practice what it preaches to nations it wants to pull a regime change on, and allow free speech.
@RedWing88
@RedWing88 4 ай бұрын
@@Polit_BurroYou guys don’t like free speech. All I’ve heard from progressives the last few years is how “harmful” free speech is. Personally, I will not champion free speech rights for progressives. You guys are no better than Bolsheviks. Actually your worse, with your race based worldview that’s in the same vain as the national socialists.
@jerseyjoe82364
@jerseyjoe82364 4 ай бұрын
Then...how does a political science professor teach? Mute?
@johns9969
@johns9969 4 ай бұрын
Can you imagine putting your personal political views on a corporate site?
@johnc3525
@johnc3525 4 ай бұрын
Like McDonald's donating food to Israeli soldiers?
@AdonisMediaProductions
@AdonisMediaProductions 4 ай бұрын
Another reason not to eat that garbage @@johnc3525
@hollynewton243
@hollynewton243 4 ай бұрын
better to be out in the open than sly. (it's all political under ground)
@joseliabarquez8327
@joseliabarquez8327 4 ай бұрын
Politics should never be part of education because it is inherently divisive. Individuals should be free to express their own opinions but institutions should stay out of it. This should include teachers and professors, who shouldn't be allowed to use their teaching platforms to indoctrinate students to their personal political views.
@dallasweaver4061
@dallasweaver4061 4 ай бұрын
As a young man in Berkeley in the 60's with the free speech movement, I and my wife have been appalled at the domination of the campus by a WOKE insanity that defines everyone by which checkboxes they are in. Being in the STEM areas, the insanity was limited in the 60's to what were the intellectual mush academic areas, like most of the social sciences and humanities including theology, except economics, where reproducible results and math don't exist. Just a bunch of pathological memes spreading like wildfire that warp thinking. However, checkbox thinkers have taken over HR and the facility and excluded the more rigorous people from the academy. The real-world problem is that individuals have a variety of overlapping distributions of traits (from dumb to smart, innumerate to math literate, socially adjusted to autistic spectrum, productive cultures to parasitic cultures, etc.) all of which exist in all the checkboxes making them worthless for any analytical analysis.
@kerensabrowning-howard856
@kerensabrowning-howard856 4 ай бұрын
The answer is clear... personal opinions do NOT belong in PUBLIC schools, including college. Public formats ment for school issues & school issues only
@suzannecooper5323
@suzannecooper5323 4 ай бұрын
Why not? What about freedom of speach?
@johnwong5317
@johnwong5317 4 ай бұрын
@@suzannecooper5323 You mean like Harvard with the low ranking in Free Speec h? The very fact these same universities would only allow certain kind of speech should be worrying.
@hhhkf
@hhhkf 4 ай бұрын
Education, not indoctrination. When i was young, professors did not attack your religion, beliefs, or talk politics.
@W1ZY
@W1ZY 4 ай бұрын
This is like two pampered college kids that somehow got caught going on a bad date every day.
@patrickmaloney1810
@patrickmaloney1810 4 ай бұрын
No content-based restrictions on speech. PERIOD.
@user-iq3qm4mc3u
@user-iq3qm4mc3u 4 ай бұрын
Anything that comes out of California we dont want....
@beautifully_scarred_lea
@beautifully_scarred_lea 4 ай бұрын
Commiefornia just can't help themselves 😊
@Mrcleansoclean
@Mrcleansoclean 4 ай бұрын
Public schools don’t think
@Chi-for-4
@Chi-for-4 4 ай бұрын
I agree with the male speaker💯. One more I like to add though. Teachers should not discuss these things in their classrooms either. If group of young people wants to talk about these issues or anything political, they meet and talk about it on their on time.
@subo88
@subo88 4 ай бұрын
Doesn’t a rule like this go against the first amendment?
@atom-by5ur
@atom-by5ur 4 ай бұрын
Do you think the democrats care about the Constitution?
@georgemetesky5519
@georgemetesky5519 4 ай бұрын
First Amendment got cancelled by Corporate, years ago.
@michaelplunkett5124
@michaelplunkett5124 4 ай бұрын
No, they can say what they want as private citizens. As teachers their duty is to teach their students how to think for themselves, not parrot what their teachers believe.
@mikechappell4156
@mikechappell4156 4 ай бұрын
No, your college website is not a public forum. Publishing there can reflect on the school. If you are paying for your own webspace, on your own domain, you may have a bit more freedom. (Terms of Service CAN be an issue at times even on public servers. Some services may indicate their servers can not be used for X, Y, Z.) If you aren't live streaming, contrary to what people would like you to believe, Twitter/X, KZfaq, FaceBook, Instagram, etc are not public forums. The host has a right to remove content. (If they don't like your live broadcast, they can kick you off, ban you in the future and remove your previously posted content.) No one can stop you from saying what you want. (There is no guarantee that there will not be any reprisal for that speech.) Usually, no one is required to hand you the microphone to do it publicly though. You may need to figure that part out yourself if your message is unpopular.
@consciouscrypto3090
@consciouscrypto3090 4 ай бұрын
When the school picks a side, particularly on a contentious issue around which students have various stances/personal stakes, they automatically affirm some students while encouraging hostility toward others. Don't legitimize that out-group hostility by picking a side.
@andreww9150
@andreww9150 4 ай бұрын
This is really simple. As a retired Sailor, and current Navy civilian employee, I can say anything I want, as long as I'm not saying it FOR the Navy, or implying that it's the Navy's position in any way or shape. If you put it on your employer's site or forum as an employee, you are at the very least implying that you are speaking for your employer... which you are NOT.
@snipervictim
@snipervictim 4 ай бұрын
Almost the end of the week and you folks manage to talk about almost nothing everyday it is amazing !
@joejoe-bs6jq
@joejoe-bs6jq 4 ай бұрын
I really don't get Bri - when I went to college 20 years ago (public university in Southern California...granted it was for an IT degree), I really didn't care about "what my university thought." I don't remember ANY of my classmates wondering "geeee, I wonder what the university thinks of Sept 11, or Bosnia, or the Iraq War (Desert Storm)" or anything like that. We just didn't look up to the university (or the faculty) for our moral guidance or our moral outrage. So, yes, I agree with Robbie, the university can - AND SHOULD - put out statements regarding their team winning the sports game, or it's entry into a local parade or whatever is pertinent to the college, AND, professors can teach what they want/need/must according to university and state guidelines, but, darn, the university should not have official statements of things political/controversial on their websites.
@YouSnoozeYouNooze
@YouSnoozeYouNooze 4 ай бұрын
I'm so happy when they agree. idk why
@gefiltefist2088
@gefiltefist2088 4 ай бұрын
It makes me worry about Robby
@karelglasner2673
@karelglasner2673 4 ай бұрын
Less friction which is necessary for getting to the truth of matters 😂
@karelglasner2673
@karelglasner2673 4 ай бұрын
Less friction which is necessary for getting to the truth of matters 😂
@ebenezerspludge8369
@ebenezerspludge8369 4 ай бұрын
Also for America as a whole. "You can't solve a problem with the ways of thinking that created it. "So why not change our ways of thinking?"
@tentrickspony8925
@tentrickspony8925 4 ай бұрын
Diversity of thoughts is important
@greendesertgoddess
@greendesertgoddess 4 ай бұрын
What asinine words "woke and wokeness!"
@AdonisMediaProductions
@AdonisMediaProductions 4 ай бұрын
blame the right, the term "woke" was started by black twitter community, they co-opted it.
@aribailor3766
@aribailor3766 4 ай бұрын
"Better if they don't make those statements. Why do they have to?" Founding fathers clearly thought there was a reason for people to be able to make statements without fear from those in power.
@hollynewton243
@hollynewton243 4 ай бұрын
Education and Health Care are Political. Your family systems are too. If we deny this, there is always a big pink elephant in the room. Americans need to mature a bit. A lot.
@RedWing88
@RedWing88 4 ай бұрын
You need to tell that to progressives. Everyone I know is sick of the race baiting social justice warriors. They are using minority rights to oppress majority opinions. We’re sick of it and if they don’t back off we will start using their own tactics against them.
@gypsy5592
@gypsy5592 4 ай бұрын
The government has always had problems with students protesting war. Remember 4 killed at Kent state university Ohio on May 4, 1970 killed by the military in the Vietnam era! Canada took in our conscientious objectors!🌠
@vintagemotorcyclerepair4052
@vintagemotorcyclerepair4052 4 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I left California 22 years ago, and I hope never to have to go there again.
@anarchistcop8239
@anarchistcop8239 4 ай бұрын
Watching this HUGE empire try to wrangle a ridiculously diverse population into a common cause is hilarious. Part of us want to deal with injustice. The Capitalists see injustice as a feature, not a bug. (Capitalists rely on class distinction to hold an economic gun to the less fortunate, usually due to an accident of birth. I'm not looking to argue this obvious point.) This is fundamentally unfair. We've thrown off the lies of racial and cultural superiority and we're chipping away at religion, but they have yet to replace it with another common goal. That's why we tried out 30 years of constant war in an effort to create a common enemy. I'm reminded of the Nietzsche quote: "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers?" Until we agree on a common goal, be it building a moon base, fixing our infrastructure, stopping (or starting) an ethnic cleansing. Whatever our owners can find to unite us.
@remingtonsteel585
@remingtonsteel585 4 ай бұрын
So they are going to enact rules that prevent the public from more easily knowing what is going on in the universities; i.e. the "They won't stop giving us funding/donations if they never know what we are promoting." rule.
@simanothername3035
@simanothername3035 4 ай бұрын
Does the first amendment not apply in California? I was under the impression that most California taxpayers were offended by how their money was wasted?
@RobertEgbers
@RobertEgbers 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely hilarious…. “Is it right for a student to worry about going into class and have to worry about that teacher hurting their career if they have different opinions” 😮 says every center left and right leaning student in college
@daleeasternbrat816
@daleeasternbrat816 4 ай бұрын
Stating one's personal views is one of the the essential and absolute things that defines a Free Country. A well equipped Armed Population is a Shield that protects all of our Rights.
@derbidyderks
@derbidyderks 4 ай бұрын
"The application of it will be uneven." Wow, is Bri a right-winger now?
@doc_adams8506
@doc_adams8506 4 ай бұрын
If a class is dealing with a sensitive political question, leave it in the classroom. If the students want to extend the discussion outside the classroom, they are free to do so. The moment a professor post's an opinion on the campus website, it tacitly carries the imprimatur of the university. Colleges and universities are tasked with exposing students to a broad/universal variety of ideas. With college faculties dominated by liberals, conservative students have to fight to be heard. Conservative speakers are attacked, shouted down, and threatened. Your fear that liberals will feel unsafe is laughable with the trend in the academy for the last 40 years.
@julienielsen4462
@julienielsen4462 4 ай бұрын
Yes Bri conservatives too are treated different at universities for their beliefs.
@istandinawe6319
@istandinawe6319 4 ай бұрын
I love this dialogue of both views. Refreshing
@bobalmond8257
@bobalmond8257 4 ай бұрын
4:02 why shouldn’t their funding be revoked if that is what they are teaching? What you said was if they don’t make public what they are teaching in the classroom then they should be safe. I do not agree.
@keithcurrie6392
@keithcurrie6392 4 ай бұрын
College and university are for education not indoctrination, the tutors can have an opinion but not an ideology, what happened to freedom of speech and individual thoughts
@dawnmitchell11
@dawnmitchell11 4 ай бұрын
Any school receiving public funds should not be putting out public statements of a political nature. While I'm not against history/political type classes having discussions about current events/conflcts, I think caution should be used when discussing highly charged war conflicts currently unfolding. Lots of opportunities for false information to be disseminated. Often reported details are inaccurate or sometimes entirely false in events like these.
@cozmik_kay
@cozmik_kay 4 ай бұрын
But the ICJ haven’t said that… wouldn’t that make the statement propaganda?? 7:23
@Fergit_
@Fergit_ 4 ай бұрын
can activists find it within themselves to shut their mouths on a website?
@suzann5312
@suzann5312 4 ай бұрын
Her bias is showing
@lawbulb
@lawbulb 4 ай бұрын
But ROB: What does Muskegon Community College think about Israel/Gaza?? We MUST KNOW what every college thinks about everything, and they must all take official positions on all matters! Unless MCC gives its official stance, society will crumble. Every publicly funded college must always give every opinion on everything. I don’t even eat my breakfast without consulting with MCC, and neither should anyone else! Today they’re saying cheese Danish.
@okyfernandez3672
@okyfernandez3672 4 ай бұрын
They have done it ALWAYS with the Press and Hollywood help! And NOW is forbidden? 😂
@AndrewBerryman101
@AndrewBerryman101 4 ай бұрын
I have a feeling what Bri considers 'even handed' isnt what the rest of us would consider it.
@lamuzze
@lamuzze 4 ай бұрын
Pretense to protect students is still a violation of our free speech. Allowed to stand will proliferate into all sorts of arena to become normal. Students ability to think through and be confronted with differing ideas are necessary for a robust students body everywhere.
@jkee9760
@jkee9760 4 ай бұрын
Can't be attacking the protected class. They were fine when it was other groups but this group is most protected
@Marty234
@Marty234 4 ай бұрын
So if a professor says you shouldn't be hired bc you support genocidal groups & actions, then you would be afraid to say the wrong thing in class. But a professor who supports genocidal actions & groups, or racist things like your skin color makes you oppressed or an oppressor - perfectly OK and no reason you would be afraid to say the wrong thing in that class... Either nobody can give their political views or everyone can. Both sides want certain views punished. I don't get how ppl live with themselves after saying obviously hypocritical things...
@zenmetsuzogo4005
@zenmetsuzogo4005 4 ай бұрын
Either it is free for all OR none for all. Right now it is extremely biased toward the liberal viewpoints and certain demographics. In my POV, religions and politics has no place in public schools.
@tonyg76
@tonyg76 4 ай бұрын
I agree with this. Students should be able to come to their own ideas and professors personal opinions should be kept to themselves.
@ricbarnes6272
@ricbarnes6272 4 ай бұрын
I thought universities were supposed to be bastions of free speech & open dicussion, i can't believe that i've lived my entire life in that illusion. Sort of makes me glad that i couldn't afford to go, seems like it would have been a terrible waste of time & money. People can learn a lot more just by living & observing than by sitting in these thought factories of today. People need to stand up & not be afraid to say things that don't jive with the way the majority happens to think at the moment. It's a crazy mixed up world out there for certain. Ric, ontario canada, i am a died in the wool man who believes 100% in the value of free thought & speech.
@VonFels
@VonFels 4 ай бұрын
Unless it’s a formal statement or policy of the university (i.e. the university board) nobody, including departments, should be making any social or political statements. Theoretical statements in a classroom for the purpose of discourse makes sense. Student organizations should be able to make statements voicing their views whether it’s an LGBQT or Christian student group. Although it gets tricky if they are partially funded by the university.
@roystonboodoo7525
@roystonboodoo7525 4 ай бұрын
Feelings m'man feelings, no logical reasoning/ thinking allowed.
@dansmith680
@dansmith680 4 ай бұрын
I managed to make it through university without anyone knowing where I stood on Israel/Palestine. Guess times have changed.
@matt4887
@matt4887 4 ай бұрын
At what point should higher ed adopt institutional neutrality and use their own personal social media
@toddl9013
@toddl9013 4 ай бұрын
Making rules to supposedly avoid making someone mad is suppressing free speech. Life can be tough, grow a spine.
@AndrewNuttallWearsPants
@AndrewNuttallWearsPants 4 ай бұрын
Notice how Bri conveniently leaves out the fact that these rules have consistently silenced her political opponents.
@mudbucket1650
@mudbucket1650 4 ай бұрын
Lots of Chinese money and influence at the university levels, with a willing faculty and administration.
@user-sm2du3su1e
@user-sm2du3su1e 4 ай бұрын
Seen from Europe, it seems that California has already gone beyond good and evil. If I was American I would probably wish that California goes independent, creates their own soviet socialist republic and exits the USA. We know how soviet socialist republics finished. It is only a matter of time.
@Samirustem
@Samirustem 4 ай бұрын
When someone in position in russia making statement they think about that should i say to keep my job. Not what is right. When universities post these things they are thinking what should we say to keep our jobs.
@StephanieSoressi
@StephanieSoressi 4 ай бұрын
Actually, silencing the truth is also a political move!
@mjolnirswrath23
@mjolnirswrath23 4 ай бұрын
Nothing says a professional education by barring all freedom of speech of people that disagree with your idiotic point of view... Truth only holds up so long as it can be criticized
@merange8552
@merange8552 4 ай бұрын
They tried to warn you that they would come for your speech too😅
@ebenezerspludge8369
@ebenezerspludge8369 4 ай бұрын
Thinking like everyone else is not really thinking.
@aaronday7537
@aaronday7537 4 ай бұрын
The application of power is always uneven….that’s why less power is better.