MAKE THIS A SERIES AHHHHH

love your vids

This was such a banger of a video, thanks to all the stuff I learned here, I could anticipate what was in store and enjoyed it very much :)

Rilaboom part actually got me

But where’s Blaziken? 😢

AGREED

Facts

Would be cool, but like cmon, not gonna be a whole lot of contenders for bug, poison, ice, and maybe flying

@@MEISMUDKIPS fair, for flying i bet it'd be landorus so i guess you are right

We need this in our lives, Wolfey hear our calls

Watched till the end gang

Agreed 👍

Was gonna type that but I suppose I’m a few hours late

monke go boom 🔨

rillaboom is on fire when he comes out ( literally )

LMAO💀

Nobody: Incineroar: You got bad credit! *bails*

I mean he IS a dark type.

And then he comes back, calls you a btch again with intimidate and slaps you in the face

I picture star lord flipping off Thanos and then portal away 😂

Did you just call Troy a "village"?

@@rodric465 I didn't do history as a subject for a reason

​@@rodric465is troy still around today? Didn't think so buddy

but troy is a village@@rodric465

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i mean it is

Yep

That's the only downside to doing this as a series is all the crossovers.

@@xretcyvbnimo He's probably gonna say something like "and also, I'm not gonna talk about Incineroar since I talked about him enough in the first video, but know if i did, he would proably be #1", with some extra time to plug his old video and encourage you to watch it.,

​@@Endershock1678no because that would spoil the video, making the viewer less curious to watch it if they already know the result

Thats why Wolfe brought Ray-Ogre to worlds.

"The fire type really is made up of fire." -Tohsaka Rin, probably

But it nerfs every Team. It's a furry

@@TheRealAquazso true

He's a genuinely well designed pokemon. If the rest of the dex was given a similar power level smoothing treatment the game would be insanely diverse. He's an honest pokemon. He doesn't rely on just pure offense, defense, typing, ability, or movepool. He dips into everything and supports any pokemon that comes with him. The guy is the protagonist in battles because he's the jack of all trades. If every other mon had his versatility then everyone would/could use their favourite pokemon in competitions without feeling like they're gimping themselves or throwing.

@@SkyNinja759But then a lot of Pokémon would feel same-y. Incin is well-designed, but… I think Syndrome of _The Incredibles_ fame said it best

​@@SkyNinja759Smaller metagames are just better to play.

yeah, keep acting like giving a pokemon, parting shot, u turn, intimade and fake out in the same set inst OP.

@Madifuhao-ym1ut oh there's no denying that. It's complete bs. But he's here, legal, and dumb strong

Agreed, people always forget that typhlosion has the exact same stat spread as charizard, that goes to show how disgustingly overpowered the gimmicks are.

@@tady_toestyphlosion is pure fire and has a worse movepool

​@@falconx8402 but eruption strong and go boom 💥 💥 💥

@@tady_toes Typhlosion could gain 10 stats everywhere and still wouldn’t see play.

Likewise. I play doubles in Scarlet and Violet on occasion and the fact that I almost always see Incineroar on opposing teams, so I get tired of it pretty quickly and go to single battles. Here's your guy looking to play shiny monotype teams, organizing around that theme as much as possible, then Incineroar comes in and ruins my day. It's one of the reasons, along with the fact I really learned to not take Pokemon as seriously as others, that just makes Pokemon not a fun experience unless I'm playing with friends or family.

Incineroar uses the Hidden Ability gimmick from Gen 5 for Intimidate. It might be my most hated gimmick ever because it was almost impossible to get ahold of the Pokemon with the Hidden Ability I wanted back before Gen 8. It was just taunting me with what I could never have.

groudon doesn't "need a gimmick" it's super strong on its own, it just isn't a fire type so it wasn't mentioned in this video

@@Asp_N ...isn't Groudon fire ground ?

@@nether_prince3021 Primal Groudon is. Regular ol' Groudon's just Ground.

@@masterplusmargarita *insert Pikachu's surprised face

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While I'm not active in the scene myself, I believe that Wolfey didn't consider Blaziken, because he focuses on the doubles format VGC exclusively.

“Those words, can they even be used together in a sentence like that”

The move still fails under Desolate Land. It's boosted by Rain, weakened by Sun, etcetera. It's only a Normal move when Z boosted or displaying itself to hide the power.

Not to mention with nerfs to abilities like Intimidate it can’t rely on constantly switching in and out for multiple activations

Incineroar out here single handedly balancing the game by its existence alone

I can already tell you, the Counterplay is gonna be use your own Incineroar.

​@@Cloud_Danceris you on crack.

@@Cloud_Dancer what nerfs? It still operates the exact same as when it was created.

😂

Macargo is good in everything but typing. If you set up trick room and u turn out with a fast pokemon, macargo can deal massive damage. Priority still hurts him though

imo Magcargo has a nice design at least. Blacephalon is an unsettling head-asploding clown ghost abomination, and probably the least cool Ultra Beast. and in terms of version exclusives in the Ultra games, Stakataka clears. love that thing.

Kyogre

A*oonguss for Grass

Caterpie

Probably Kyogre and Rillaboom respectively imo

Dracovish

And it just got a new fluttery friend

Tf is indigo disk

@@Eizengoldt The second Scarlet and Violet dlc coming out mid December. The first part is the Teal Mask, second is Indigo Disk

Doing every type almost certainly isn't worth it when the dark type video will come to the same conclusion as this one

Wouldn't neutralizing gas also work?

@@sinteleon yes, however both have not both existed in VGC at the same time, yet.

I remember the amount of people running golduck specifically to kill primal groudon. It doesn't work most of the time

​@@iwannaseehowlongyoucanmakethis "It didn't work....it did not work. "

Thats not really how coverage works, you need to cover the types that RESIST fire and those are Water, Rock, Dragon and other Fire types.

Thing is very few Fire types not named Scovillain and Ogerpon H have access to reliable Grass coverage

very true

@@walaceandrade4046 to be fair that just makes it a bigger deal considering grass deals with 2 of those too

@@Roflmao6173 not really. Being able to hit dragon and other fire types at least neutraly is more important than dealing non-stab-supereffective damage to a type you should be running from anyways.

I never knew it was GOOD in ubers, just that it was in it. What generation was this?

@@daniellejackson6543 Mega = Gen 6. But yes. Speed boost + 160 Base Attack is good :D

was it really good tho? both mm2, mega mence and mega gengar are way better pokemon and were way more used in UBERs from what i rmbr. was it even better than mega lucario? in my memory it was just too strong for OU but certainly did not "terrorize" UBERs and while it was clearly not OU i think there were way more broken pokemon that were initially OU like marshadow or mega kang. shit gets walled by giratin and even toxapex can check it as well

@@ahmadadnan4773 i am not talking about the matchup against them but the opportunity cost of using a mega blaziken instead of a better mega pokemon. mega mence has way more utility (like checking the best pokemon in the tier and defogging on it, primal groudon) and mega gengar can trap arceus fairy or chansey while mega lucario can revenge kill geomancy xerneas. also knock off doesnt ko either giratina forme even after a swords dance and you cannot hit both giratina and toxapex with the same set unless you drop a STAB move. theres also flare blitz recoil and the tier has strong priority users like e-killer arceus or marshadow, i think mega blaziken is better on paper than in reality.

@@ahmadadnan4773 do you even understand how pokemon works? mega salamence checking p-groudon means it can SWITCH INTO IT. m-blaziken cannot switch into p-groudon. m-salamence has a role in the tier that goes beyond "click buttons and hope something dies" and please stop lying m-blaze never kos neither giratina, here are the calcs so please stop talking. 252+ Atk Blaziken-Mega Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 208+ Def Giratina: 180-212 (35.7 - 42.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 252+ Atk Blaziken-Mega Knock Off vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Giratina-Origin: 182-216 (36.1 - 42.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO giratina-o doesnt even need to run defensive investment to avoid the 2hko! and uninvested draco meteor always kos back w this spread 208+ SpA Griseous Orb Giratina-Origin Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Blaziken-Mega: 307-363 (101.9 - 120.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Same reason chi yu and Ogerpon weren’t on the list. Only been legal for one full season

@@therealivysaurit has 2 4x weaknesses and 2 regular weaknesses not 4. Plus it has a good base stat total and move pool.

And Arcanine-Hisui was World Champion in Seniors too, a much more successful journey than Chi-yu and Ogerpon (Although this one is barely a month old, lol).

@@eelishanninen5153 Yeah but it's winning everything. While it has 4 weaknesses, it also has 7 resistances and grass or fairy tera cover it's weaknesses very well. It's arcanine thats a bit tankier, has better stab, and does more damage. It has intimidate and it has a very strong attacking movepool with flare blitz, rock slide, close combat, wild charge, head smash, crunch, extreme speed, psychic fangs, etc. IIRC it's the best placing fire type in the current season, even above fire ogrepon.

​@@therealivysaurits winning every regionals after dlc

Still can lol. Incoming in dlc in a few weeks 😮

@@scottcrysel yep tera blaziken Is going to be a nightmare to deal with

I guess he didn't mention it, because it's rather lackluster in VGC, but 100% bonkers in Singles.

being mega blaz even better than mega charizard y

Blaziken is such a menace that with speed boost it's most probably even better than its mega.

He's talking about competitive

​@@mathieul4303*_OR IS HE???_*

Intimidate is already dominating thanks to ol' reliable Landorus and newcomer Hisuian Arcanine, yet Clear Amulet is virtually nowhere to be seen. Why? Because Clear Amulet is a noob trap; every offensive-inclined Pokemon that could theoretically benefit from it would always rather have another power-boosting item instead.

@@randallsage2Your onion, m8.

I agree Prim Groudon is the most "Powerful" fire type.. But not the best fire type

Good idea

those items won't make any difference to Incineroar; the meta is already full of Fake Out (Iron Hands, Rillaboom) and Intimidate (Landorus, H-Arcanine) and yet those two items are rarely ever seen Cloak has only been used on Tornadus which Incineroar can just pivot out of for free and Clear Amulet is a meme; offensive Pokemon would far rather run offensive items that boost their power

@@randallsage2 Sure but Ogerpon made players run Tera Dragon. Intimidate made players run Clear amulet and Lash out when there is Defiant and Guard Dog. I am basically saying anything is possible, so things can be said with Incineroar around the corner

Yeah Heat Crash is pretty cool but it isn't that good for Pdon i think. Pdon is very heavy but so are most legendaries it faces in Ubers, so Heat Crash will rarely reach it's maximum 120 BP. For similar reasons, Low Kick is basicaly Close Combat but better in Ubers since it will consistently have 120 BP without the defense drops.

@@Luragon9876 It all depends on what the intended targets of Heat Crash are at the end of the day. Precipice Blades covers most of those heavier legendaries pretty well, with only Celesteela and maybe Yveltal using Roost mindgames taking all of PBlades, Heat Crash, and, say, Stone Edge for coverage particularly well. Meanwhile, Landorus, Gliscor, and of course Skarmory, Corviknight, and Ferrothorn all get more or less annihilated by 999.7 kg Heat Crash.

@@brendan1871 I agree, it's strong and f*cks certain targets. I was just pointing out that it isn't super spammable.

@@Luragon9876 Meanwhile, every Gouging Fire running Heat Crash in Reg F

@@Endershock1678 That's cool, and *completely irrelevant* considering we were talking about Smogon Singles NatDex Ubers, not VGC.

Probably most of them, its too damn useful NOT to run it in most teams

Annihilape will be running rampant because it was built in a lab to counter everything Incineroar does lol

Annihilape has its own share of problems that Incin's teammates can simply take care of@@scottcrysel

@@scottcrysel As long as the Tapus aren’t around to back up Incineroar.

@@snapclub8751 supposedly we'll be able to catch all previous Legendaries in the Indigo Disk DLC, including the Tapus

Kyogre is for sure the top water

@@scottcryselGastrodon has just as many worlds wins 👀

@@scottcrysel I think its number 2 to Urshifu cause of course Drizzle on switch in and Water Spout boosted by that is huge damage on everything in the game and has won 2 world championships but does that out weight the strength of being able to always crit, hit multiple times and by pass through protect and has one world championship. I wanna see how which one Wolfey values more. But top three def is Urshifu, Kyorge and Gastrodon and I dont think any others come close besides maybe Fini