Women's Underwear in the Seventeenth Century Explained

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History Lessons with Dr Sarah Bendall

History Lessons with Dr Sarah Bendall

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Shifts, petticoats, bodies, farthingales... and drawers? What did women wear under their clothing in the 17th century? Keep watching to find out about the history of women's underwear!
00:00 Introduction
00:15 Smocks, Shifts, Shirts and Chemises
03:37 Petticoats
05:03 Bodies and Stays
05:40 Farthingales and Rolls
07:02 Drawers Controversy
09:18 Evidence for Drawers
12:09 Pepys' obsession with his wife's drawers
14:00 Catherine of Braganza's drawers and final thoughts
Stay tuned for my next video where I'll be delving into 16th and 17th century bodies and stays in more detail.
References: sarahabendall.com/tag/underga...
Other Resources:
Susan North’s Sweet & Clean?: global.oup.com/academic/produ...
Sarah Bendall’s Shaping Femininity: www.bloomsbury.com/uk/shaping...
For links to the images used in this video, see my blog:
sarahabendall.com/2023/12/12/...
Dr Sarah Bendall
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@bcase5328
@bcase5328 6 ай бұрын
I think I heard that Catherine de' Medici had drawers in one of her inventories. Linen drawers might have helped prevent chaffing during the summer.
@sarahabendall
@sarahabendall 6 ай бұрын
Oooh I missed this, but so interesting. This would track with the theory that they may have been more commonly worn in France than England
@JackWolf1
@JackWolf1 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for clearing a lot of this up. Been wondering a lot about when/how historical undergarments developed (given how very inaccurate a lot of modern media depicts this). Now, if only it were easier to find anything about the clothing that children wore in these eras
@sarahabendall
@sarahabendall 3 ай бұрын
My pleasure! Children’s clothing is a little harder to place but I’ve found a lot of bills for elite kids clothing. Maybe it will have to be a video one day 😊
@LixiaWinter
@LixiaWinter 6 ай бұрын
Elizabeth Pepys: puts on drawers to prevent chaffing/accidentally flashing her dance teacher Samuel Pepys: sets up a whole conspiracy board about that
@VetsrisAuguste
@VetsrisAuguste 7 ай бұрын
8:29 I was responding internally to the question about undergarments before the 17th C. thinking, what about that image with the lady in platform shoes under her flip up dress? That’s before the 1700s. Then the next thing to pop up on the screen is that very same image.
@carolynrosser1574
@carolynrosser1574 3 ай бұрын
I have been fascinated with historical costumes for 60 years. It was not a common interest then but now there is massive amounts of information about the various clothes that were worn over the centuries. I am envious of the people who now have opportunity to make and wear these clothes, there seems to be lots of groups that hold parties etc in UK and USA where they have the chance to enjoy past fashion. Look forward to more of your fascinating videos. ❤❤
@FantasticalFolliesCostuming
@FantasticalFolliesCostuming 7 ай бұрын
Interesting argument for the drawers. Curious to see what comes of that down the line 🤔
@sarahabendall
@sarahabendall 7 ай бұрын
Yes there still is a lot of work to be done there! Pat Poppy and I have spoken about it before - it likely was an elite and Francophile thing. Although the widow from Bristol is an interesting example. So it may not have been super common amongst those below the elites... but it certainly wasn't impossible!
@ReignBeauofTerror
@ReignBeauofTerror 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@rylinmariel6431
@rylinmariel6431 3 ай бұрын
I used to participate in the SCA, and I was forever getting into arguments with purists (ie, those who believe that if you're going to be entirely accurate, you should not wear anything that has not been proven to have existed). The people who I was arguing with were people who, quoting accounts of the extant evidence, stated that women who were menstruating simply allowed themselves to bleed into their chemises. I could not believe that women would allow this to happen, because for the average woman at least, this meant extra work when cleaning them, and for the gentry, worse; it would be the case that they would likely have heavier flow during their menses, since it is known that women who are less active tend to have heavier menses. My argument was that if a woman simply wore a belt, to which she could attach a link of bunched cloth, that would attached at the front and the back, which would absorb the blood. Being that this was the SCA, of course we were talking about the medieval period (no pun intended!), and likely no written records would be made of this, and this would not be the kind of thing that would be found on a woman in a grave, presuming a grave was dug up to observe the manner in which women were clothed in that time. My contention was that if women did in fact wear such a thong kind of garment during menstruation, it would simply be impossible to prove one way or another that this was the fact, if this was not actually a garment at all, but just a waistband and Lengths of cloth attached temporarily. I think these would perhaps be hemmed around the edges, but this would not be done by a tailor! These cloths would most likely be washed until they were not usable anymore, and then likely just be burned. It seems possible to me that this practice could have been carried on for centuries, with no historical mention. I'd be most curious to hear what you think of this idea!
@sarahabendall
@sarahabendall 3 ай бұрын
This is such an interesting topic and it’s something that I think dress historians think about a lot, but it’s so hard to find any sort of evidence for what was going on. I agree that they were likely using something and not just bleeding into their smocks and chemises (for the reasons you state). And wherever that was was likely made in the home and that knowledge passed down from female family members, so never recorded. Susan North wrote a whole book on linens in early modern period - including babies nappies/diapers - and even she doesn’t discuss this. I assume because she couldn’t find any evidence. It’s such a mystery!
@judyjohnson9610
@judyjohnson9610 3 ай бұрын
@@sarahabendall Maybe it's just something that people didn't talk about?
@sarahabendall
@sarahabendall 3 ай бұрын
@@judyjohnson9610 I assume that women talked about it amongst themselves (it was understood to relate to fertility, pregnancy and childbirth), but none of that information was written down (or at least it hasn't' survived) unfortunately!
@judyjohnson9610
@judyjohnson9610 3 ай бұрын
@@sarahabendall My point exactly. It was simply passed along and not recorded for posterity.
@ah5721
@ah5721 3 ай бұрын
peoples of the Polynesia used sea sponges as early tampons . Abby Cox theorized that women used apron like garments to tie up around their women bits . In Lemburg they found string bikini like underwear in a castle along with what today we'd call a supportive long line like bra /slip combo . I'm of the opinion that women wore undies and mostly they didn't survive because of shame associated with menstruation stained underwears
@robintheparttimesewer6798
@robintheparttimesewer6798 5 ай бұрын
Great video! Everything I didn't know I really wanted to know! Subscribed!
@jacobvardy
@jacobvardy 5 ай бұрын
I'm mostly commenting to appease the youtube algorithm but I'd love to see what people were wearing outside the far west. In China, India, Mesopotamia, the Swahili Coast, et cetera...
@sarahabendall
@sarahabendall 5 ай бұрын
This is something I need to learn more about too! I'm making videos on what I know best at the moment, but will try to move onto non-European content too :)
@jacobvardy
@jacobvardy 4 ай бұрын
@@sarahabendall. Fair enough. Thank you for the videos.
@SingingSealRiana
@SingingSealRiana 3 ай бұрын
There IS very little Well documented Research and what there IS IS badly excessable, language barriers, gatekeeping . . .
@waydeclarke3641
@waydeclarke3641 7 ай бұрын
Amazing. I loved this. It’s like you’re speaking to me as a friend.
@aquageraniablue6990
@aquageraniablue6990 6 ай бұрын
O yes please ....more videos about early modern clothing and household textiles. 😊
@ClassicsGirl
@ClassicsGirl 7 ай бұрын
I love it, now we just need a super cut of wet tunics in period dramas! Also from what I know Samuel Pepys was a bit of a philanderer himself, so perhaps that’s why he was paranoid 💀
@sarahabendall
@sarahabendall 7 ай бұрын
Haha yes definitely. I think Pepys was projecting a bit too much onto his poor wife!
@ah5721
@ah5721 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised he was projecting
@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme
@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme 4 ай бұрын
Great vid :)
@americanwoman6246
@americanwoman6246 2 ай бұрын
Good luck with your new channel!!
@sarahabendall
@sarahabendall 2 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@violetkit9477
@violetkit9477 2 ай бұрын
I feel some sort of undergarment would absolutely be necessary to protect the thighs from each other. I can't wear skirts without something underneath
@KateandBree
@KateandBree 3 ай бұрын
The very thought of not having drawers for riding makes me shudder as an equestrian. The chafing, oh the chafing.
@matthewmorrisdon5491
@matthewmorrisdon5491 3 ай бұрын
Corsets stopped stopped arrows during the Camache War in Texas.
@kkcliffy2952
@kkcliffy2952 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering the 17th century! Do you know when quilted petticoats started showing up in non-aristocratic wardrobes? I want to make one, but I also have to focus on 1670s clothing
@sarahabendall
@sarahabendall 3 ай бұрын
I’m not exactly sure unfortunately. So far I’ve only come across them in elite records (which is what my research is mostly focused on at the moment).
@kkcliffy2952
@kkcliffy2952 3 ай бұрын
@@sarahabendall thanks anyway! I know a lot more elite fashion survived, so there's more info available
@poetmaggie1
@poetmaggie1 5 ай бұрын
I read some of Pepes and it is sad, he was absolutely unfaithful to his wife.
@sarahabendall
@sarahabendall 3 ай бұрын
He very much was! He was very much a “do as I say and not as I do” type of fellow
@ah5721
@ah5721 3 ай бұрын
Have you seen the Lemburg string bikini like underpants?
@sarahabendall
@sarahabendall 3 ай бұрын
Yes! They are a super interesting find!!
@making.history
@making.history 6 ай бұрын
So excited you're making videos! KZfaq needs more 17th c. love! :)
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