I know right😅😂

pretty much lol

Hahahaha…me, too. We need a life, brother!

ACI? What's ACI?

@@QueenOfCatsX3 air crash investigation

I bet the fella you speak of is a folk hero back home 🤣

Haha, sad but true :P

In the Aeroflot 253 Episode .... "ELDAR, WTF are you doing?"

Yeah. The pilots in Aeroperu 603 were top notch.

lol

@@mpls_link true...

Very, very true...and the stick-shaker! When that goes off, BELIEVE IT too! And TCAS; I think that all of those systems are all isolated/independent systems from the main airline systems. I'm sure TCAS is, and the terrain system is (in most airliners). I'm pretty sure the stick-shaker is independent too, but I can't recall for sure...definitely listen to the terrain alarm, though! If it's wrong and you listen to it, you go up or to the side. If you're wrong and IT is right, you die. Probability says 'definitely take its advice'. :)

And TCAS!

low terrain alarm and stick shaker. those two alarms have got to be the most accurate and reliable warnings ever invented

Pulling up isn’t very important in this situation 😂😂😂

It's only a model.

Strange tubes, outside an aircraft, distributing data is no basis for a system of control.

Lol pitot tubes are more like holes or inlets that are filled with sensors. There have been some stupid aeroplane designs but not that stupid.

Driving in a unbelievably thick fog I had to open the door to see the lines in the road. Would stop but was terrified some idiot behind would ram me.

@@bonnieenright Wow!!😱😱😱😱😱

EXACTLY! These guy's should have gotten this Aircraft right back on the ground, instead of their, "ho hum" , let's just talk about it and keep flying away into oblivion and darkness, away from all visual references! They didn't recognize the HUGE PROBLEM they really had until it was too late, but yeah, what the heck was wrong with the Rad Alt? NOTHING, except it's only good up to 2500 feet. Damn!

@@DJea-ni2yk basically we can just say it's the pilots and the ground crews fault

​@@DJea-ni2ykthey're Hispanic it's no surprise

Yup

Not exactly. When you are flying IFR (Instrument Flight Rating) and in bad weather you cannot see anything outside. Especially at night. The only thing you can rely on is dead reckoning or your instruments. For example landing in IMC conditions with visual approach and manual pilot controls is both deadly and impossible. I am a pilot and I know.

@@veerkar Obviously, you're experienced enough . . . to know the difference ! Those first 100 hours . . . even 500 hours, could be the most dangerous. Hopefully that 'learning curve' all rookie pilots experience will be enough to 'save the day,' when you are experiencing a cloud of doubt ! 😬 🇺🇸

I don't since that means new accidents

Same

@@themedic9627 The ground can kill you faster than flying… MASSIVE POTHOLES… Mud slides… EarthQuakes. 😢😬

@@Mr.Chris.P.Bacon1 The air can to just as u take off the airplane can crash ☠️☠️

Got that right

Do you drive? Walk? Run? Ride a bike? What about a bus, train or subway? Hell, you can even die walking down a flight of stairs.

Oh really

If it broke, though, the fluid would fry the instruments, wouldn't it?

I’m surprised the Russians didn’t hide that from the world.

The Russian pilot was yet another Championship Contender for a Darwin Award....

Next up: Kid get to control the SpaceX rocket.😂

@@quangminhnguyen2504 Let's be honest and say Russian democracy is a facade.

@@miriamsamaniego3335 Not only that, but the pilot was buried... as a hero of Russia.

I dont really think the engine would freeze up, Anti icing is for the wings if I am not wrong. Ice formation can mess the aerodynamics and make the plane lose lift. But engine flameouts can surely occur due to hail.....

Yeah...the world is imperfect in all it’s facets.

I know about Air Florida Flight 90. The pilots were not used to taking off in winter conditions and debris was ingested into the engines when the captain tried to use reverse thrust to clear snow.

This vid is crp

I think larger planes might not be able to survive landing in water because they are longer than A320 so the whole tail might break off touching the water. The rear pressure bulk head on US 1549 was badly damaged during the landing which does suggest larger planes might have the whole tail section break off

Landing in the ocean is far worse than the Hudson.

That's correct, they aren't. When planes do hit water, the cabin is designed to stay pressurized for 4 hours or fewer, depending on whether or not the plane is closeby to rescue or if rescue is farther out.

When I worked at Boeing we joked that Boeing had made a deal with Todd Shipyards : "Boats don't fly, planes don't float."

@@ray_glaze ha ha ha ha ha ha ha . . . . 💀

Why?

@@Mr.Chris.P.Bacon1 Because you get to know much more about planes, autopilot and other stuff?

@@Mr.Chris.P.Bacon1 I find these videos super interesting. It presents you with a lot of knowledge of planes and events

I mean, sometimes there's a Lot going on or they weren't trained on it. Or they hadn't had any supplementary training for a while.

@@QueenOfCatsX3 if you aren’t prepared for all situations then you shouldn’t be working that job.

@Jesse Pinkman Yeah, I dont understand how the ATC guy (who wasnt in a cockpit with a billion warnings going off) didnt realize that the altitude his system is showing isnt independent but relies on the planes instruments. However I also think better trained pilots might have realized that the warnings were caused by a problem with their pitot tubes and that they shouldve trusted the low terrain warning bcs that uses radio waves to determine height instead of pressure.

Would that be practical tho?

@@alexanderboulton2123 i imagine you could just keep a set of goggles under the seat compartment like they do with the pilot's O2 masks; but having said that I dont think it would help you with horizon perception until you were right up on the ocean level, unless it was super choppy seas

Be safe.

Masochist! LOL

You hope.

@@ancientmaverick13 😂😂 I made it safely

@@janeiciacollymore3559 Glad to hear it! I never doubted it for a moment. 😜

Lol don't forget the excellent airmanship!

Actually, it's only because they saw the horizon of the Pacific.

This reminds me of a scene in TF2 Air where they pull up Google Maps when they get lost, and it promptly crashes.

Procedure actually says that the tape needs to be bright red. Unfortunately, they used gray tape which would’ve been impossible to see at night.

bruh they should’ve done “when their planes are compromised” *Cause I don’t think you recover during a crash*

I think you didn't understand, they mean that the planes literally were about to crash.

Google translate? Definitely NOT ready for prime time.

When the plane start crashing he must expect the plane to suddendly repair and in fit condition with no outside interfering

The black box

🧢

Are you implying they never do maintenance on any and all vital parts?

@@johnchedsey1306 I'm just saying if you want to cross country would you rather be driving a 1980 or a 2021?

@@BigAlWillis Planes are maintained at a far greater level than a car. I understand your point and agree though, I'd rather fly a newer plane for comfort reasons. But older ones aren't any less safe, they just need to be taken care of more. I mean hell, some WWII fighters still fly regularly.

@@Tbonedoesfsx basically they're just as safe as the maintenance man that was working on them

@@Tbonedoesfsx like that one story I was watching where the maintenance men were cutting Corners and the engine fell off.

What if they were to fast and throttled up?

They throttled back after an overspeed warning went off

It’s easier to say what to do when you don’t have 13 different alarms going off at the same time trying to get your attention.

@@turbolabamericathat’s what they all say

@@turbolabamerica I get your point, yes!! But since all of those 13 alarms going off on me as you imply..are giving me inaccurate readings which ultimately only confuses the pilot even further,,,the only logical and certain option to select in such a case for the purpose of buying yourself more time in order for you to go through each of those alarms and come up with a solution for each one, you need to be alive and fly the plane, which in this case is the top priority! Thereafter, you can tackle every other issue one at a time, or whichever has top priority again.. If you as a pilot cannot trust your flying instruments that indicate your speed and altitude for example, as an immediate reaction, it's critical to leave the thrust levers at a certain RPM ratio where it's indicating that the engines are spinning at a certain rotation speed which by itself it's indicative of power being produced etc. Similarly to a car. For example, let's assume that your car's speedometer isn't working, and you don't know how fast you're going! However...having your tachometer indicating 4 or 5000RPM, it's relative to a specific speed whereby if you knew the speed of your car at a certain RPM number, you wouldn't be as troubled by the malfunction as someone who doesn't know the relation of RPMs to Speed..

I think it has more to do with knowing you're gonna die soon. Sure it's not a black and white situation. I could be in a car accident, bleeding out and knowing I'm gonna die any minute or I could be killed instantly. In airplanes, you usually have lots of time before you die. It may be a roller coaster of going up and down and spinning as you drop

I guess it's a mix of the media, often exaggerating aircraft emergency incidents, and human nature, which doesn't like it if they don't know what is happening in the flight deck

There’s a movie on it.

@@Powerranger-le4up really? I’ll look for it thanks.

Maybe it's the way they portray him in the reenactment, but I thought they made him seem cavalier, downplaying or ignoring warnings from his instruments and FO that ultimately resulted in the emergency being more dire than it otherwise c/should have been. It's still a huge credit to him and crew to get that massive unpowered glider safely to the ground.

@@MadMako true, he was portrayed in a kind of negative way. The commenter above, Powerranger6342 said there’s a movie and I found it. It’s Piche, entre ciel et terre (available here on KZfaq) which is about his life and his successful landing of the plane. Very interesting.

@@gizmo8361 I assume Mayday used the CVR to generate the cockpit dialogue, but the acting and tone make him seem more dismissive than simply skeptical and disbelieving.

Sadly it's normally it's a symptom of the company. Why expect a guy being payed minimum wage working in the middle of the night to the best job all the time? Why was the maintenance crew given non standard tape that could stay on in-flight? The exact same crash happened months before but that info wasn't disseminated for the sake of "competition". Idk shts complicated

Uh, well, usually they are dead. So what are you saying!?

@@sharcrum I'm saying the wording in the title is weird if not a little misleading. In aviation, "crashing" usually means the aircraft has impacted some solid object (another airplane or the ground), and upon coming to rest it is seriously damaged or destroyed. Once that "starts", it's pretty much inevitable that the plane "finishes" crashing in a matter of seconds or fractions of a second, cause there's really not a lot the flight crew can do to prevent the airplane from colliding with something it has already started colliding with. There are a number of accidents (that resulted in actual crashes), where the flight crew does survive.

True but other things you need to consider is this: an alarm. After this incident, most planes have an alarm when the auto pilot mode goes manual. This plane had an alarm but the alarm didn't go off initially. If the pilots realised the auto pilot got turned off, things might have been different but I guess we'll never know. Also it was common to have visitors in the cockpit back then. The pilots weren't alarmed by the initial direction change as they suspected a holding pattern. (I think that's what it's called but I may be wrong). Also the daughter sat on the pilot's seat too and nothing went wrong. Anyways, it was still very unprofessional of the pilots on board to let a child sit on the seat. Hope it never happens again.

Well, you are proud of your beautiful kids, you are proud flying such a new and modern aircraft, you knew for sure nothing bad can happen because of automation. Its totally safe let your kids sit there for a moment. (at least you think so...) Consider when and where this happened. Of course, let the kids holding the controls was the main issue here but that was not the only one. I think there was also lack of training about the aircrafts safety mechanisms and something more. Btw: it was shown in another video the aircraft could have been recovered by itself if they had done just nothing.