Wood Elves vs Beastmen Warhammer The Old World Battle Report Ep 4

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4 ай бұрын

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In this 2,000 point battle report Steve takes a crack at playing a Glade Guard heavy list, focused on trying to make the enemy panic before battlelines are drawn. Meanwhile Luka puts the Beastmen Ambushers v2 across the table.
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@jlae111 4 ай бұрын

Steve playing Wood Elves like they're High Elves is hilarious to watch. Love seeing Old World content. Keep it up guys.

@user-cc5ew8kp6d 4 ай бұрын

Ungors have move through cover so they dont get the penalty of -1 movement for dangerous and difficult terrain, they can also retoll any 1's when rolling for dangerous terrain

@rocmistro 4 ай бұрын

Yep. The Gors have it too.

@Priestleyguy 4 ай бұрын

that wood elves list is shocking

@wakankinyan 4 ай бұрын

Move Through Cover and Open Order Gors and Ungors can almost completely ignore terrain. No move penalty, no rank disruption, and if you roll a 1 on dangerous you reroll it.

@mattsamson309 4 ай бұрын

Steve forgot to shoot one of his glade guard units twice lol😂

@Dom-ei8uf 4 ай бұрын

And forgot some of the poison wounds a couple of times lol

@waysidelogistics 3 ай бұрын

Ruby Ring of Ruin has been in like every report I have watched from this channel, it is good but I feel like more variety is cool. Just food for thought.

@shagorche 4 ай бұрын

The music is so quiet that it only pops up during a phrase that sounds almost like orchestral Africa by toto

@tEKOMANDOR123 4 ай бұрын

Think keeping the mage seperate when the beastmen were about to close to contact was a serious mistake. Those glade captains alone probably could have overcome the static combat res difference and swung the game tbh.

@none167 4 ай бұрын

The armies and the terrain look fantastic ❤

@jimboboja 4 ай бұрын

Keep it up guys loving the old world vids!

@mochatoast887 4 ай бұрын

You two are amazing. Childhood legends for me

@marksalisbury5071 4 ай бұрын

OMG! I was screaming at the end - Beast turn 6. A unit of Minotaurs flank charging the Eternal Guard plus two kamikaze Chariots charging the front, impact hits? They would have tore the spears a new orifice. It would have been glorious!

@Gorrky 4 ай бұрын

no impact hits, the chariots need to charge more than 3 to get impact hits and steve moved the eternal guard close enough to the chariots

@marksalisbury5071 4 ай бұрын

@@Gorrky Granted - I forgot about the 3" = impact hits bit, but that is so easy to get around. The Beast player was playing the two chariots as a single unit instead of 2 individual units. So... Move one chariot back 3-4" as bait, and the 2nd on back their full movement of 8". The Elves then have the choice of moving within 3" of the first, which means the 2nd can get a full charge off, or they can charge the first chariot which then promptly flees as a charge response. The Elves choices then are ) Try to run down the fleeing chariot or b) have a failed charge, leaving them within charge range of the 2nd chariot. AND they are still within charge range of the Minotaurs who ALSO get Impact hits but now likely in the Rear arc instead of a flank. The Elves best defensive move would be to back up and wheel so that both the minos and both chariots are in their front arc, so that they can at least bring the second rank of spears in (Do you get the 2nd rank of spears when charged in the flank/ rear? I don't think so) and they don't lose their rank bonuses nor give flank bonus to the Minos. But either way 4 minos and 1-2 chariots worth of impact hits are still going to leave a mark. Minos are all about charging in and eating stuff, not to be put off by a bunch of pansy elves with pointy sticks. Fun Bat rep in any case.

@Syzl103 3 ай бұрын

@@marksalisbury5071 it’s worth mentioning that tuskgor chariots can only move 3.5” backwards, but I do agree with you on staggering them backwards

@marksalisbury5071 3 ай бұрын

@@Syzl103 Did they change chariots in TOW? In WHFB chariots could wheel freely and move their full movement. It wasn't like a ranked unit - 25% movement to turn 180 degrees, no marching. It was freely turn 180 degrees, move 7 (or8) inches, wheel freely 180 degree to face back the original way.

@Syzl103 3 ай бұрын

@@marksalisbury5071 As far as I can tell double checking the rules for chariots, yes. They follow all the normal movement rules.

@andrewrockwell1282 4 ай бұрын

Love those old world battle reports! ❤

@kunochijenkins5530 4 ай бұрын

What a wild and awesome game! I just love the TOW craziness!

@Dom-ei8uf 4 ай бұрын

IMO you are playing skirmishers wrong. PG186: Formed Units Charging Skirmishers; "Once the charging unit has made contact with the target unit, it does not wheel to align." At 33:32 you moved directly forward via the shortest route, then wheeled to align. This IMO is wrong, the scouts should have formed up against the giant. This is important because it means the giant can chose the direction it will overrun, obviously in this case into the unit of fleeing gladeguard. I think this is a very important rule you guys keep getting wrong (the only one tho, love you guys). If you think I'm wrong please tell me why with rules and page numbers. thanks.

@brisko1994 4 ай бұрын

Skirmishers have to "close the door" on a charging ranked unit. You have to charge the nearest Skirmisher thou

@oukt237 4 ай бұрын

Shoulderplate of meteoric iron😎👍 Great

@Ja1n 4 ай бұрын

At 34:30 you guys break to look up how ranking skirmishers work. It says in the rule book that you do not wheel when lining up skirmishers. You charge towards the closest model and then they form up on you. There is no closing the door. P186

@Nakai_the_Wanderer 4 ай бұрын

What is this soothing and peaceful music in the background?

@SkinkChief 4 ай бұрын

Great work as always chaps

@RagtimeNinja 4 ай бұрын

Woo! Old World fun times!

@hans8102 4 ай бұрын

Thx guys for the oldworld content. Nice game. Super fun to watch. One remark: the green dice are hard to read

@thehatchman6610 4 ай бұрын

Always appreciate seeing Old World content but I do wish you guys would go back to the hand-held format. I know that probably comes with its own challenges but it looks better (to me) than static shots. Thanks again for another great game!

@buchnejf 4 ай бұрын

Interesting! I like this format much better.

@7nineofspades5 4 ай бұрын

FYI the Beastlord is Heavy Infantry, so it can never be joined to one of your skirmish units because of the skirmisher requirement to be the same unit sub-type

@Pemmont107 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for making this content, it was an entertaining fight! Though I wonder if you prefer making them this style, or the old one? I kinda prefer the old style: The camera's a little too zoomed out and I can't really tell what's going on. Does anyone else have this problem?

@marksalisbury5071 4 ай бұрын

Skirmishers would not redirect the charge of the giant - he moves forward until he hits one, then the skirmishers form up on him. '

@matthewwilliets7809 4 ай бұрын

He still has to complete his charge into the closest skirmishes model as if it was separate unit so has to wheel to close which is how skirmishes eedirect

@blastvader 4 ай бұрын

@@matthewwilliets7809 incorrect. BBB pg.186 "Once the charging unit has made contact with the target unit, it does not wheel to align. Instead, the Skirmishers must form up against the fighting rank of the charging unit..." Skirmishers cannot be used to redirect in the fashion you describe.

@detorrV2 4 ай бұрын

@@matthewwilliets7809 they can redirect because you have to move center to center, but not because the charging unit closes the door.

@SDKFZ259 4 ай бұрын

@@detorrV2why have to move center to center?

@detorrV2 4 ай бұрын

@@SDKFZ259 p186 says that you must move "as directly as possible into contact with the closest visible model" and in p92 defines "moving directly away or towards" as moving in the direction of the center to center line. It is not the exact same wording but, within these poorly written rules, it is the only answer to those words that im aware of. Note aswell that normal charges dont use the term "move directly", so it must have some meaning.

@misomiso8228 4 ай бұрын

Great match up.

@benjenkins5048 4 ай бұрын

did Luka forget the warband re-rolling charges? The solo Gor chasing down the Fleeing elves @ 1:02 would have had a re-roll on his charge roll no?

@AllbinP 4 ай бұрын

Great game!

@cjanquart 3 ай бұрын

I have a ton (probably, since most of them are old metal) of Minotaurs and always wanted to run one in WFB.

@konatelassina5301 4 ай бұрын

23:00 forgot gors and ungors have move through cover, so not slowed and can reroll dangerous terrain.

@DimmyGee 4 ай бұрын

it felt like a massive build up to an anti climax

@liangweihao7932 4 ай бұрын

Failed charge is move the higher of the charge roll dice, or the lower if through dangerous terrain. U don't add your movement.

@Dom-ei8uf 4 ай бұрын

If they fled it's not a failed charge, so you do add your movement. Specifically says so.

@editor2766 4 ай бұрын

Luka with the Bestmen...amazing!

@geeksworkshop 3 ай бұрын

Great scenery and table. Most people are just putting scenery to make the battle field smaller by putting it on the edges.

@89odan 3 ай бұрын

What is the music in the background?

@joacoinsua659 4 ай бұрын

yess more old world

@ernestorodriguez3637 Ай бұрын

You’re sponsored by Wayland utani! Don’t you know their breeding xenomorphs?!

@guyincognito959 4 ай бұрын

Don't the Chaos Beastmen from the ancient evil forest get to ...move through the forest? Kind of hilarious if they wouldn't, not much of a threat in a world where they live and die in the woods 😁

@grlmgor 4 ай бұрын

37:32 They go 11 inches (Movement 5 plus 6) as they go their charge range.

@citizenkane2836 4 ай бұрын

Love me some Old world

@nickthompson6642 4 ай бұрын

Please do more hand-held BRs or make these easier to see. I can’t tell what any of the wood elf units are.

@punchyMiddleEarth 4 ай бұрын

Old World baby yes!!!!!!!

@aglumm9469 4 ай бұрын

How does poisoned attacks and armourbane interact?

@matthewwilliets7809 4 ай бұрын

They don’t, pretty sure it is in the faq but because no wound roll is made you don’t get armour bane but could elect to roll to wound instead of just taking the poison auto wound

@Erebus-oc9zq 3 ай бұрын

@ 14:44 why can the 3 rank unit of GG all fire at the giant using volley fire? Theyre not on a hill and large target only lets them ignore cover, not get more shots.

@Cerve909090 2 ай бұрын

Because they have VolleyFire as for own rule.

@daddypudding9074 4 ай бұрын

MY BEAUTIFUL GOAT CHILDREN!

@Petasus77 2 ай бұрын

The WE general should be one of the captain's at leadership 9. Not the mage, it is the highest LD character not the most expensive

@carminebattista3249 4 ай бұрын

not steve's face Luka!

@peters6345 4 ай бұрын

I hate Luka's rolling XD 3 out of 4 wounds regen on 6s. Still using them cooked dice

@AllbinP 4 ай бұрын

Go Mino...i mean Beastmens ;)

@chrisjohn85 4 ай бұрын

Rolling to hit twice with hail of doom seems a bit much.

@1970samo 4 ай бұрын

Why don’t you do games like you used to,camera wise these ones are pants

@michaldzurenda504 4 ай бұрын

Seeing a Wood Elf army without Great Eagles is a bit painful

@zzudans 3 ай бұрын

Its Close order not Closed. As in near, not shut

@Jon-rk9fm 4 ай бұрын

Poor Luka playing against a shooty army his least favorite interaction gameplay.

@TheBE730 4 ай бұрын

say if fast: ruby ring of ruin

@aratherpurpleleo 3 ай бұрын

I feel you guys don't stay on the camera showing the actual game enough whilst showing the only players a bit too much, it's like POV you're watching a game from the next table over and occasionally check in to see what's happening lol

@MenzaCrow 4 ай бұрын

Chariots treats woodland and forest as impassable terrain so you cannot move through woods voluntarily. Just get hits when you break and or flee

@Syzl103 4 ай бұрын

Ironshod wheels makes difficult terrain dangerous and Linear Obstacles as Impassable. Forests are just difficult by default.

@wookieschnitzel7595 4 ай бұрын

The greatest duo since Steve Martin + Martin Short. Or Waldorf and Statler!

@rocmistro 4 ай бұрын

I love you guys but this batrep was very frustrating to watch. I'm all for smart play but the degree of cageyness made this boring to watch. One flank never even engaged, and the flee moves from Steve prevented us from seeing several fights in action. Luka you completely forgot that Gors and Ungors have move through cover so should have been rerolling those dangerous terrain checks. Also not sure why the Eternal Guard would have shredded the Beastman flank when a ton of impact hits would have gone off first.

@Cerve909090 2 ай бұрын

You need a 3" charge for triggering impact hits, EG marched at 1" from them. Also, flee and cageyness are keywords for Wood Elves, so...yeah.

@antoniosaid3354 4 ай бұрын

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