Wood Versus Metal Snare Drum Comparison

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Here is a video comparing two of my favorite deep (6.5") snare drums for playing jazz. They are a 1960's Premier 14" x 6.5" Royal Ace COB (chrome over brass) snare and a 1983 Gretsch Centennial 14" x 6.5" snare (wood Jasper shell).
Both of these drums are great in their own way so I wanted to demonstrate the differences as well as the similarities between them. Both of the drums are outfitted with calfskin heads and have the original curly snares installed.
If you want to skip the talking here are the performance locations:
Time Stamps:
0:00 Discussion
6:35 Gretsch Drum on the Drum Set
10:50 Premier Drum on the Drum Set
The Gene Krupa calf head video I reference is located here: • Gene Krupa "Sing, Sing...
The other drums used in the video are all Gretsch Centennial from 1983.
The sizes of these drums are: 18" x 14" bass and 10",12" and 14" toms.
The cymbals in this video are all 1940's- 1950's K Zildjian except for a Masterworks 24" Swish/China
Cymbal sizes
21" K ride
18" K crash/ride w/rivets
15" K Hi Hats
24" Masterworks swish/china with rivets
The drum heads are all Earthtone calf skin.
Microphones are two Sennheiser MKH 800's for stereo overheads and an AKG D112 on the bass drum.

Пікірлер: 41

@RandyHanley 2 жыл бұрын

You're a true master, Rick.

@stevethulander8938 2 жыл бұрын

So happy to hear you reference Krupa's phenomenal tom sounds on Sing, Sing, Sing. I've always found this particular 13m piece to be, probably, the most 'interactive' playing I've heard. His sudden, explosive accents, rim/stick shots, and tom ostinatos underneath the band are something I think every drummer should learn from; not the style, for that's gone its way; but, Krupa brings this style to life. His listening throughout the piece provides points of interactive explosions. Yeah for sure, I dig mostly modern sounds, and I kind of have to defend myself to other musicians when talking about this 1938 piece of wonder. But, just Krupa's interactive listening and responses - as well as his anticipation of important cadences still blows me away.

@dconsmack 2 жыл бұрын

You are such a great drummer! And, your drums sound phenomenal. Thanks for the video.

@thegreatfatsby1912 2 жыл бұрын

Metal snare for me. The brushes on the wooden shell seem to disappear, though that could be because my ears are no longer up to wooden dry subtlety. Absolutely love the break out on both drums into the funk and latin. This is an absolute masterful drummer. Listen to the musical phrasing. Drumeo has nothing on this. Superb.

@rayfrazier8657 2 жыл бұрын

excellent drum work, super informative. Thank you for all you do.

@Joethedrummer 2 жыл бұрын

I love hearing you play, beautiful touch.

@arabesque1 Жыл бұрын

11:38 nastiest sound I've heard all week, cheers!

@charliecontrino1626 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome playing! Krupa was my first drum hero!

@GlennWilsonDrums 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful playing Rick! 👍🏻

@joc8 Жыл бұрын

You are a fantastic drummer, you make it look effortless, and those rolls sound like paper tearing! Thank you, I so enjoyed watching your skill on the kit!

@rickdior Жыл бұрын

Thank you for that.

@paulkendallquarry679 2 жыл бұрын

I learn from everything you put up Rik. I play calf on military snare but would never have thought of using it on the kit.

@davidcudlip6587 Жыл бұрын

Always been a metal snare guy. Currently playing a Slingerland 130 Krupa model and love it. This is a good comparison video.

@larrbrown7277 2 жыл бұрын

Love the sound of your drum heads,I vote for the wooden snare, fabulous technique.

@Jimmythedrumteacher Жыл бұрын

Amazing playing !

@nahuelhandpan 2 жыл бұрын

Gracias maestro Saludos desde Argentina

@bobbyddrums1566 2 жыл бұрын

o man that kick is heaven

@davidcurtis4478 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful Rick! 👍🥁👍DC

@TheKoderius 2 жыл бұрын

Silky smooth drumming. Live long and prosper

@meekoloco Жыл бұрын

Great drums sir! Fantastic playing also! You and Mike Baird are directly responsible for my Premier snare drum addiction of late!😂

@rickdior Жыл бұрын

Not a bad addiction to have as addictions go. Thanks for watching.

@meekoloco Жыл бұрын

@@rickdior Quite right!

@renatopestana9526 2 жыл бұрын

The royal ace sounds much crispier than the Gretsch. I like it better, although I dream of getting a 6,5x14” 4155 Gretsch snare. Both are great! I currently have a boutique 5,5x14” solid block snare drum with wood hoops, all Brazilian wood. And a 1971 Premier COA 2000 5x14” (I think) that has a similar strainer and a crisp sound just like yours! Great video Rick, keep it up!

@rickdior 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Renato Those 70's Premier drums are great.

@billnicholas1381 4 ай бұрын

Both sound great I feel the wood is nicer with brushes and the metal better with sticks

@caferrara 2 жыл бұрын

Rick, would the Ludwig L1932 15" 12-Strand Heavy Snare Wire work with the bending trick you used?

@thebeatclinic9000 2 жыл бұрын

Great playing and the Premier drum sounds great. Quite high like Ben Riley with Monk. What's the interval between top and bottom snare head if you don't mind me asking?

@rickdior 2 жыл бұрын

Hi The interval is a minor 3rd. A natural on top, F# on the bottom. Thanks Rick

@brucelilly8459 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Rick..new subscriber. I just watched the wood vs metal snare comparison. I really enjoyed that. I have snares and kits from Gretsch and Premier. I think both companies have great drums. I was excited to see the Gretsch centennial kit ! I had a chance to buy one new at Paragon Music in Tampa Florida. I couldnt afford it and that broke my heart. Such is the plight of a young poor man. Which kit did you get ? The one at Paragon was number 14. Still have never seen a more beautiful kit. Seems it was a 6 piece kit if I remember correctly.

@rickdior 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Bruce My set is #47. It's the only one I have seen in these sizes (jazz kit) but maybe there are others. It's a 5 piece.

@redbackmike850457 Жыл бұрын

Hey Rick how does the COB Royal Ace compare to a 1960's Sound King COB 5"x14"?

@JulianFernandez 2 жыл бұрын

thanks so much. timestamps are wrong, first the Gretsch then the Premier.

@rickdior 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks That is fixed

@brent3760 11 ай бұрын

Rick, i have a 71' ludwig supra and a 61 jazzfest. What other vintage snare would you suggest i look at? Rogers powertone? Slingerland hollywood ace?Yahama recording custom? What would be your suggestion?? Any kinds, not just the ones I listed.

@rickdior 11 ай бұрын

Hi Brent Are you looking for an all-around drum or a genre specific drum?

@brent3760 11 ай бұрын

@@rickdior I am open to many suggestions. But I do like all around drums. But something that would be great for jazz.

@rickdior 11 ай бұрын

You might want to look at a brass or copper drum that would have a different character than those two you already own. I like the old Pearl Marvin Smitty Smith snare and a Slingerland brass Sound King Krupa drum is a good drum that's easy on the wallet.

@brent3760 11 ай бұрын

@@rickdior I appreciate that! I'll look into those!! 😁😁