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WOODMIZER SAWBLADE SHOWDOWN

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Cairn Creek

Cairn Creek

4 жыл бұрын

In lack of any live sporting events, we drew up a March Madness single elimination bracket and raced a few of our favorite band saw blades in a head to head challenge. Tune in to see who wins our Cairn Creek mill shop challenge.
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Equipment used at Cairn Creek:
Woodmizer LT 35
John Deere 550H Dozer
John Deere 322 CTL
Kubota RTV
John Deere 135 G
Kubota KX 161 excavator

Email: jsflc78@gmail.com
Facebook: Cairn Creek
Mailing Address: 1452 Marietta Road
Chillicothe, Ohio 45601
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Пікірлер: 39
@ronbartlett1839
@ronbartlett1839 7 ай бұрын
Well I'll be dipped. 20 years buying woodmiser double hard. I've dremel sharpened for years and people think you are crazy. Proof is in the pudding . Thank you
@CairnCreek
@CairnCreek 7 ай бұрын
Glad to see this video is still getting enjoyed. It’s been a while ago.
@VKMilling
@VKMilling 4 жыл бұрын
Factors that need to be taken into account here: The Ripper37s have a blade thickness of .042 vs the WoodMizer blades which have .045+. You wouldn't think that it would make that big of a difference, however, on the lower HP motors like ours (25hp Kohler), the .042 cut faster no matter what degree you're using. Secondly, tooth set is a huge factor. Both WM and Rippers have about a .021 set but that changes based up the profile of the blade. Thirdly, the hook angle (7/10 etc) matters but the shape of the gullet from the base of the tooth to the tip of the back of the next tooth matters. The gullet is for removing dust and the deeper that gullet is, the better and faster the dust is removed and affects the speed of the cut. A good example of this comparison would be a WM 4 degree blade vs a Ripper where the Ripper not only has a deeper gullet, but also a more angle sweep to the back of the tooth. That said, the more aggressive angles (9/10) are going to cut faster in the softer woods such as pine. However, in harder woods like the white oak, the 7 degree is going to outperform the 9/10. I have found, in all my testing (WM 4/7/9/10/747/7turbo, Lennox 9, Munkfors 9, Rippers 7, Cook's 9) that, a 7 degree Ripper37 .042 with an .025 set Cuts faster and cleaner through hard woods and cuts plenty fast and clean through softwoods reducing my requirement to change blade profiles for various woods. Then again, there's always the "bang for the buck" issue and by fast, Rippers beat WM handily at more than $90 cheaper per 15 blade order. The last thing I will say about it is, I have consistently gotten anywhere from 200 to 600 MORE bf of cutting out of a new RIpper than a WM blade. I've maxed out at about 2100 bf of pine on a single ripper.
@CairnCreek
@CairnCreek 4 жыл бұрын
Super info VK. That’s way more info than we have learned in our infancy. Sounds like a lot of us could learn from your knowledge and experience. Thanks for watching.
@davesilvia9711
@davesilvia9711 4 жыл бұрын
7°is all around best. to me its not about speed but getting the best you can out of the log. take your time and enjoy the prossess.
@VKMilling
@VKMilling 4 жыл бұрын
@@davesilvia9711 agreed
@jamesrussell6870
@jamesrussell6870 3 жыл бұрын
@@VKMilling I thought the turbo 747 was the best blade ever. I'll try the ripper based on your info..
@VKMilling
@VKMilling 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesrussell6870 7/47 is a good blade. Problem I have with it is, because the teeth are so thin, if it touches something it doesn't like, you destroy it. Whereas most other blades, you have a decent chance of still being able to use it.
@wt5381
@wt5381 4 жыл бұрын
You made my evening! I operate a LX150, great to see other blades not only speed but quality of cut. Thank you!
@CairnCreek
@CairnCreek 4 жыл бұрын
W T thanks for watching.
@zeke1eod
@zeke1eod 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea, fun to watch and you made plain sawing fun and great to know times, every saw does it differently!
@CairnCreek
@CairnCreek 4 жыл бұрын
zeke1eod thanks for watching. It was enjoyable to make.
@TheOldJarhead
@TheOldJarhead 2 жыл бұрын
Fun and creative video -- however, I have to point out that the first shootout the resharp started late -- did the Jerry's jump the light? Seems the WM band was delayed at the start about 5 seconds...maybe you started the clock at the same time but in the vid it appears not. Since I am a geek I timed the WM band at 49.22s from the time it began moving forward to the time it finished the cut ;)
@CairnCreek
@CairnCreek 2 жыл бұрын
Good catch, we can blame it on the editing crew! haha
@TheOldJarhead
@TheOldJarhead 2 жыл бұрын
@@CairnCreek lol I hear ya...still good content a d fun
@KuzweKanfarms
@KuzweKanfarms 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm getting ready to order blades for my Wood mizer lt35 for next year sewing season I'm in northern Idaho so we get really cold and I don't have a building for mine yet. I spent last summer learning how to use it and have some video of it and holy moly going back and looking is hard to do but it is a learning process. So this definitely helps out on which blades I'm going to order and now we need a video unless you've already got it I have subscribed so I will go look on how he sharpened that with the Dremel
@CairnCreek
@CairnCreek 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I’m still learning myself, but I really do love the 7 degree Ripper 37’s from Jerry’s Resharp. My father in law does not have a video on his dremel tool sharpening. Hope you can get that thing under roof soon to get out of the weather. Thanks for watching.
@KuzweKanfarms
@KuzweKanfarms 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've got it completely covered for winter so I'm good there but I can't use it I definitely need to get it in a building because I'm milling the wood to build my house so it'd be nice if I could be doing some work right now on it. But definitely love the video love seeing the different blades being used it's extremely helpful
@chriswikle2736
@chriswikle2736 4 жыл бұрын
Atta boy Rick!..had my money on the 747..cool video. VK looks to have knowledge JSF!. Great job Oak!
@andrewward9345
@andrewward9345 3 жыл бұрын
Another factor is the quality of the cut, and longevity of the blade vs cost per blade.
@bige5202
@bige5202 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest thing that made our lt35 full hydraulic mill faster wasnt the blade but there hydraulics I guess you could call it a super hydraulic now😂 we added an extra pump and 3 1000 amp cranking rig batteries too it me and a buddy can goof off and cut 60 cross ties plus around 700 feet of lumber in an easy day if we worked hard we could do 80 ties. Just figured I would share it with you might be something to look into if your using it alot loved the video! Btw it more than doubled the speed of the hydraulics!
@leeskithree
@leeskithree 4 жыл бұрын
cool video. I would like to know about the longevity of the blades. I was watching Iron and Oak and he was using a WM747 and he said that it was the longest lasting blade that he had used. VK milling and hardwood had a lot of good information and I will try the Ripper37's after the 28 blades I already have. I want to say that I have been using 7 degree maybe "Double Hard" WM and they last a long time. I will have to double check the box, I don't mill a bunch so I don't know that much, but learning a lot from all you guys on YT
@joshhavens3450
@joshhavens3450 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man! One question though did you notice one that cleared the saw dust from the cut the best?
@CairnCreek
@CairnCreek 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Havens not really. I’ve ran the 747 a few more times. It seems to do well. I still prefer the Ripper 37’s the best. Maybe the 747 will grow on me though.
@lumberjill6598
@lumberjill6598 3 жыл бұрын
Well that was way funnier than basketball! 👍
@rexhavoc2982
@rexhavoc2982 3 жыл бұрын
The feed knob setting is not a good way to test blades, hook up a amp meter to the feed motor and adjust to the same amps for each blade.
@CairnCreek
@CairnCreek 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea.
@robertward553
@robertward553 Жыл бұрын
Yep, I'd let my father in law win also.
@denniscampbell8240
@denniscampbell8240 2 жыл бұрын
😳on that white oak and New blades and slow speeds ,,I see boards lifting badly from now ,,,,,,lol ,,,thats not good ,,,,,
@dlee5936
@dlee5936 4 жыл бұрын
The 747 looks alot smoother than the other ones. Providing less work to finish. Just my opinion. Great video 👍
@CairnCreek
@CairnCreek 4 жыл бұрын
D Lee it was definitely a smooth cut. I’ve been running it some more. It’s ran great for the most part. Had some trouble in some dry locust though.
@dlee5936
@dlee5936 4 жыл бұрын
@@CairnCreek Have you ran it in some softwoods like pine or silimar?
@CairnCreek
@CairnCreek 4 жыл бұрын
D Lee I ran the 747 in birch yesterday and it cut like a dream!
@2wheeltravel401
@2wheeltravel401 3 жыл бұрын
To bad the jerry saw started before the woodmizer blades every time not a far test. You should have timed them individual not of the video. Editors error.
@2wheeltravel401
@2wheeltravel401 2 жыл бұрын
Editors error just like my stupid autocorrect lol. Spelling. It was my pencil that made the spelling mistakes.
@newfoundlandsawmilling9023
@newfoundlandsawmilling9023 4 жыл бұрын
That is a awsome video bud. Best I've seen in awhile. I will be sure to share it. I just gave you a sub. I'm running a much smaller saw then yours but I'm loving it. Be great if you could check it out. I sharpen my own blades, you got any techniques to share? Love the video.
@CairnCreek
@CairnCreek 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for hanging out with us. What do you mean “be great if you check it out”?
@kennethhendricks1645
@kennethhendricks1645 4 жыл бұрын
YOU OUGHT TO DO A LONGEVITY TEST THE 747 WOULD PROBABLY WIN
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