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Woodworking, Top 5 Most Incredible Japanese Hand Tools That Will Open Up Your Mind!

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Woodworking Enthusiasts

Woodworking Enthusiasts

Күн бұрын

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@avryptickle
@avryptickle 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insights, Internet robot voice. I’m glad to see that you have taken an interest in traditional Japanese woodworking. I can see how it appeals to you, given your young age and the issues of longing for simpler, less digital lifestyles, not to mention your lack of hands or a physical body. Nevertheless, your enthusiasm is heartwarming, and I can tell you’re genuinely excited to learn about new things, which is super-cool. See you in the trenches! Haha lol. I know I won’t.
@nealbeard1
@nealbeard1 3 жыл бұрын
Longing for simpler lifestyles. That's the path I am trying to guide my children to take. After my own super stressed working life I wish I had the eyes to see , that I have now, before setting off on my career.
@karenvergara7300
@karenvergara7300 6 жыл бұрын
Fashion and patience is what japanese craftsmanship is all about👌
@robertbrunston5406
@robertbrunston5406 6 жыл бұрын
I think all the tools are very interesting but I especially like the ink line and the ink layout! Thank you.
@davidputnam4629
@davidputnam4629 5 жыл бұрын
the bonus thing about the black ink is that your eyes aren't so tired at the end of the day. the black is easier to see.
@keithpetersen4920
@keithpetersen4920 6 жыл бұрын
Watching Japanese craftsmen using those tools, is like watching Michelangelo paint! I am in awe of their skill.
@User0000000000000004
@User0000000000000004 3 жыл бұрын
It's nothing like that. Watching Japanese craftsmen is EXACTLY like watching Japanese craftsmen. Don't cheapen what they do with your comparison to some hack Italian painter.
@nealbeard1
@nealbeard1 3 жыл бұрын
Please go elsewhere. Your ignorance is pretty obvious.
@dmack1443
@dmack1443 6 жыл бұрын
Love the Japanese...and their approach to mastering an art.
@Montrovantis
@Montrovantis 10 ай бұрын
Ahh, yes. Planes and chisels. I don't know why anyone ever thought of this before.
@lonniebryant8572
@lonniebryant8572 6 жыл бұрын
Such attention to detail. Perfect joints and pride in his work. I am truly impressed.
@hugoakerlund5114
@hugoakerlund5114 4 жыл бұрын
You can find equally good joinery in western woodworking.
@pmjcdteam
@pmjcdteam 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for such amazing inspiration and knowledge I am so grateful for your Chanel.
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts 11 ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@OsoyOunpatito
@OsoyOunpatito Жыл бұрын
Dios mio la habilidad de estos artesanos NIPONES mis respetos dedicación y maravillosa obras de arte!!!!
@Kunfucious577
@Kunfucious577 4 жыл бұрын
That ink and string tool is smart
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it!
@Kareszkoma
@Kareszkoma 4 жыл бұрын
One very important thing about the tools, is that they are very sharp. Carpenters generally use very very sharp tools.
@DavidHuber63
@DavidHuber63 Жыл бұрын
One must become one with wood ❤️👍
@MrVDG-nk1xx
@MrVDG-nk1xx 3 жыл бұрын
Very fascinating sight! I'm thrilled!!!
@randallmccorquodale3290
@randallmccorquodale3290 3 жыл бұрын
Now I want a set of Japanese Hand Planes. ;-)
@hansdampf640
@hansdampf640 6 жыл бұрын
Japanese woodworking skills are the best on this world by far, i´m kind of jealous :)
@ardvarkkkkk1
@ardvarkkkkk1 6 жыл бұрын
Hans Dampf Not really.
@hansdampf640
@hansdampf640 6 жыл бұрын
not? explain please :)
@ardvarkkkkk1
@ardvarkkkkk1 6 жыл бұрын
Hans Dampf You will find amazing craftsmanship all over the world.
@MrMopar413
@MrMopar413 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, vary interesting no wonder their buildings last hundreds of years I see why.
@victorstalick5528
@victorstalick5528 2 жыл бұрын
The most important part of tools is keeping them VERY sharp!!
@friedegg1936
@friedegg1936 4 жыл бұрын
just wish i could have 1% of there skill and 100% of there dedecation to there craft.
@peterpavelka5011
@peterpavelka5011 4 жыл бұрын
You must training , practicing and very big patience and I believe , you will craftman .
@frankz4900
@frankz4900 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
@randallpachoud1230
@randallpachoud1230 6 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I'm in love. Lol. Us builder, ( hurry up with that 2 ba 4). They build beautifully because they have patience and are allowed it. It's necessary to develop such a high degree of skill. It shouldn't be just all about gettin er done! Quality creates less waste.
@bigbattenberg
@bigbattenberg 6 жыл бұрын
Ranbecca Pachoty -agreed a 1000%! The amount of waste from poor education and lack of skills in our "modern" western societies is truly appaling. On a personal level me and my family have been moving towards the counter movement of "slow living" - revaluing things lost. My next job will be 24 hrs/wk max.
@Neznisgip
@Neznisgip 6 жыл бұрын
While I respect tradition and craftsmanship in a fine piece of furniture, I don't have the patience for the same skill applied to timber framing, or candle making.
@clandunlop
@clandunlop 6 жыл бұрын
The sharpness of these tools are mind boggeling
@Errol.C-nz
@Errol.C-nz 6 жыл бұрын
clandunlop just good steel, & the best stones & strops
@davidputnam4629
@davidputnam4629 5 жыл бұрын
it took me years to truely some -what master waterstone sharpening. only THEN could I go to greater hights with the work.......... and there is no checkered flag.
@phpn99
@phpn99 6 жыл бұрын
"Holy Crap, I'm in love", said the robot
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@Rottinrock
@Rottinrock 6 жыл бұрын
going to blow a capacitor
@piotrk3897
@piotrk3897 6 жыл бұрын
12:55
@americanwoodworkingtrickss6543
@americanwoodworkingtrickss6543 6 жыл бұрын
Wow.. Nice
@bigbattenberg
@bigbattenberg 6 жыл бұрын
Remarkable how only hand tools produce very little dust, which must be much better for worker's health.
@c4pnk1rk
@c4pnk1rk 6 жыл бұрын
Nice looking little boat you got there, brother =P
@michaelbyrd2043
@michaelbyrd2043 4 жыл бұрын
I personally believe happy Japanese and swiss have the best woodworking capabilities
@johncamp7679
@johncamp7679 3 жыл бұрын
Those thin sheets coming off that planer , doesn’t just happen by accident.
@craftsmanm4697
@craftsmanm4697 2 жыл бұрын
these tools work very well - on perfectly straight grained material with very few and very small knots - only softwoods too - cedars mostly by the look - wonder how they would work on a piece of knotty pine or irregular grained oak or even Ash.
@gazpal
@gazpal Жыл бұрын
Japanese tools function equally as well as western style tools...... Western carpenters were still using laminated steel chisel blades and plane irons up until the adoption of their homogenous steel counterparts during the mid C20th.
@paulb2092
@paulb2092 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention an important point with the Japanese saw--like the plane, it cuts on the pull stroke. Actually, these days, when I cut meat with a kitchen knife, I tend to concentrate on the pull stroke. It may be just in my mind, but I think it's effective.
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts 3 жыл бұрын
good point!!
@nurabdul1436
@nurabdul1436 3 жыл бұрын
I heard /read somehwere that since japanese blade are made thinner, it is best to pull since the blade will reach max strength and lower tension . Compared to pushing, the thin blade will not warp due to exertion but straighten under the pulling motion. That's how i understood it anyway😅
@bandplop6162
@bandplop6162 6 жыл бұрын
Die Edeka-Roboterwerbung ist echt niedlich.
@jthadcast
@jthadcast 6 жыл бұрын
it's amazing that a culture so dysfunctionally modern still produces exceptional traditional craftsmanship.
@Robert-xp4ii
@Robert-xp4ii 4 жыл бұрын
"Holy crap. I'm in love. Beep. Bop. Boop."
@Madmax-iy8fi
@Madmax-iy8fi 6 жыл бұрын
God knows how these people make any money!
@JeffMartinez648
@JeffMartinez648 3 жыл бұрын
I believe your list is very comprehensive and very good however I believe the slick would probably be a little bit more important than the Aleze
@naihanchi7725
@naihanchi7725 6 жыл бұрын
What could have been a great video was cheapened by the robot voice. Ironic that a video about tried and true craftsmanship was voice-overed by a cheesy and annoying robot. For me, became unwatchable after a minute or so.
@johnkmcgregor5209
@johnkmcgregor5209 5 жыл бұрын
Phil Imperial I turned the sound down.
@jlinkels
@jlinkels 5 жыл бұрын
It would have been SO much nicer without music, a human voice and sounds from the woodworkers. How can someone spoil a video in such a stupid way?
@T3hJones
@T3hJones 5 жыл бұрын
This is just one of many stolen videos cut up and put on a robot voice...
@johanneslinkels1486
@johanneslinkels1486 5 жыл бұрын
@@T3hJones This idiot channel is full with this kind of spoiled videos. Any chance the originals are posted as well?
@Steen6319
@Steen6319 5 жыл бұрын
total agree, so I blocked the channel.
@ats440you
@ats440you 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent content....however I had to watch without sound due to the nauseating robot computer voice.
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, sorry for the hassle
@Iankmuin
@Iankmuin 6 жыл бұрын
Nice
@lumberjaxe8910
@lumberjaxe8910 6 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for the Toyota.
@NorduvalDelmondes
@NorduvalDelmondes 6 жыл бұрын
parabens video top chow sumitsobo e sumitsaschi bacana
@tarasbulba7114
@tarasbulba7114 5 жыл бұрын
i didnt understand anything but i clicked "like" the same....
@fidelvalenzuela8461
@fidelvalenzuela8461 4 жыл бұрын
Woodworking Enthusiasts Hindi mo lang na kikita Yan sa kinalikihan mo Rich kids ka kase😆😆
@user-mm1jh3bq6u
@user-mm1jh3bq6u 3 жыл бұрын
Perfektion in hohem Maße. Sehr schön. Nur bei 13,10 Minute wäre einfaches Stift sehr viel besser geeignet. Sonst alles WOW
@wilhelmtaylor9863
@wilhelmtaylor9863 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting take on tools. I would add the thin, flexible framing square. I wonder, though, isn't the adze a VERY old tool used by many other ancient and more recent cultures?
@kimchee94112
@kimchee94112 6 жыл бұрын
I like to see CNC vs Japanese craftsman.
@ardvarkkkkk1
@ardvarkkkkk1 6 жыл бұрын
kimchee94112 From a practical standpoint, there is no reason to do things this way. Modern methods would beat them in speed, accuracy and efficiently. The only reason to do things this way is because they want to. Fine if you can make a living that way. If they were to mechanize though, their productivity, and thus profit, would increase substantially.
@davidputnam4629
@davidputnam4629 5 жыл бұрын
why would you go to a gym to do a cycling workout when you can ride a lovely italian made one through the countryside?
@TomsTechniques
@TomsTechniques 5 жыл бұрын
There is probably a lot of good information here, but I just can't deal with the artificial voice.
@nealbeard1
@nealbeard1 3 жыл бұрын
Put some decent music on and turn subtitles on and mute video. Opens who a few small worlds.
@738polarbear
@738polarbear 6 жыл бұрын
Must take forever to complete a job.
@RavinderSingh-hi7so
@RavinderSingh-hi7so Жыл бұрын
Its impossible to beat japan.....west depends on modern tools....🙏🙏
@Aymiikeeganmelb
@Aymiikeeganmelb 6 жыл бұрын
I wish the whole video was sped up and not just the last part ..
@HelloKitty-ed5cy
@HelloKitty-ed5cy 4 жыл бұрын
I loved watching this video but had to turn the sound off....
@missionron
@missionron 4 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe that these master craftsmen are paid very little and it is not a very resoected job...being a Japanese carpenter. Ive always said, just move over to Canada or the US and set up shop! I think they woukd do VERY well here making traditional tea houses.
@commonconservative7551
@commonconservative7551 6 жыл бұрын
something tells me japan will be the first country to rebound after a EMP throws the world into turmoil
@20cashdotxyz76
@20cashdotxyz76 6 жыл бұрын
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@gokukakarot309
@gokukakarot309 6 жыл бұрын
They did in Dark Angel.
@waynerainey2606
@waynerainey2606 6 жыл бұрын
no they wouldn't, while they still have a few old timer master craftsman around the bulk of Japanese society relies heavily on technology, more so than any other country imo. The US is fucked because all our infrastructure is ancient and was computerized in the last century also
@TheSighphiguy
@TheSighphiguy 6 жыл бұрын
no...our infrastructure is new, just poorly made. tell most of Europe that our infrastructure is "ancient" and they will laugh in your face. hell...some of their towns newest buildings are hundreds of years older than our oldest.
@ardvarkkkkk1
@ardvarkkkkk1 6 жыл бұрын
Sigh Phi Guy What do you see in Europe? Stone buildings, stone bridges, cobble stone roads, ect. Compare that to the materials used in the US. None of our stuff will be around for centuries.
@andyvan5692
@andyvan5692 Жыл бұрын
what?, at 4:50 that guy is working like a welder, in the vertical position, haven't seen that before, most western woodworkers turn the wood in the vice!!
@bpetnoi1472
@bpetnoi1472 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I very informative video with the most inaccurate and irritating computer voice possible. Would have been better with simple text over the video.
@rmcdaniel423
@rmcdaniel423 4 жыл бұрын
3:23 That thing is gonna CRUSH the competition at the Cub Scout Pinewood Derby.
@martindilly4040
@martindilly4040 5 жыл бұрын
To those who complain about the irritating computer voice, try turning the sound off and READING. Is the world going word-blind?
@Silverone858lol
@Silverone858lol 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many legs were hobbled with #5
@brinjoness3386
@brinjoness3386 6 жыл бұрын
4.53. is a job for the apprentice.
@brinjoness3386
@brinjoness3386 6 жыл бұрын
13.10 robots have taken over when they start falling in love
@drrsc
@drrsc 6 жыл бұрын
interesting way of doing things, especially on camera. I was amused to see the guy using that strange, short handled hoe-like implement when in the background, in plain sight there is a circular saw (18:38). I'm sure that as soon as the camera was switched off, he picked up that Ryobi saw and finished the beam using that.
@davidputnam4629
@davidputnam4629 5 жыл бұрын
he wouldn't have used a saw. he would have used a 6" hand planer.
@duncantaylor3558
@duncantaylor3558 5 жыл бұрын
What’s with the robot voice! This is a woodworking video not military technology video!
@johncamp7679
@johncamp7679 3 жыл бұрын
People will miss a great message, because they don’t like the messenger. What else have you missed in your life because things weren’t presented to you how you thought they should be??
@markgoddard2560
@markgoddard2560 6 жыл бұрын
I can’t listen to a wooden talking robot.
@wagsman9999
@wagsman9999 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what kind of wood they use (long timbers)
@user-yn5cj1qo4o
@user-yn5cj1qo4o 6 жыл бұрын
ขอบคุณสำหรับคลิปค่ะ
@solfeinberg437
@solfeinberg437 6 жыл бұрын
What are we looking at at 0:17?
@viscache1
@viscache1 6 жыл бұрын
I REEEALLY wanted to love this video, as many of my main tools for my custom cabinetry bus rely on traditional Japanese tools, BUT...then you had to put that HORRIBLE computer voice in the narrative instead of your own or a friends... i gave a like out of curtesy but you it was like using a power-saw to cut tiny dove-joints to my soul!
@gala1ish
@gala1ish 6 жыл бұрын
ROBOT VOICE DISRESPECTFULL OF CRAFTSMAN SKILLS - great with sound OFF
@738polarbear
@738polarbear 5 жыл бұрын
How on earth is a voice explaining things disrespectful you idiot?
@mobrien7128
@mobrien7128 4 жыл бұрын
@@738polarbear because it is not a voice but a sound made by a computer. People know!
@CaptnJack
@CaptnJack 6 жыл бұрын
bet that super thin wood they are planing off would make a craft crafting medium.
@phishguy5230
@phishguy5230 6 жыл бұрын
CaptnJack the shavings can be as thin as 1 micron
@phishguy5230
@phishguy5230 6 жыл бұрын
Oh Asis it’s true
@phishguy5230
@phishguy5230 6 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNlpi5CJ36yreH0.html
@phishguy5230
@phishguy5230 6 жыл бұрын
Oh Asis ok. Cool.
@738polarbear
@738polarbear 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Phishy Not true.
@oldyeller9849
@oldyeller9849 6 жыл бұрын
I made it to :37.
@tonberryplushy
@tonberryplushy 6 жыл бұрын
Apart from reverse planes this is all just stuff that we stopped using years ago.
@Fochit8611
@Fochit8611 6 жыл бұрын
you're an idiot
@TheTubeTube2
@TheTubeTube2 6 жыл бұрын
This automated commentary and the usual unnecessary musak completely ruine an otherwise interesting video. The sound track insults both the craftsmen and the viewers
@stiffupperlip
@stiffupperlip 6 жыл бұрын
Stuart Nimmo . Completely agree
@richardwieder885
@richardwieder885 4 жыл бұрын
Wholeheartedly agree. In a time when there's a desperate need for skilled tradesman in the workforce, it's sad to hear that many people found an incredible video off-putting by having it narrated by a Speak-and-Spell
@randycurtis1176
@randycurtis1176 6 жыл бұрын
How hard is it find a human to read. We're watching a video about traditional tools and a robot is talking. I stopped at 1:31. I'm done.
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts 6 жыл бұрын
im so sorry for it mate..Can you mute the sound and read the text?
@Gantzz321
@Gantzz321 6 жыл бұрын
your loss
@janjanssen7663
@janjanssen7663 6 жыл бұрын
Randy Curti
6 жыл бұрын
Get over it randy. It is more accessible for people to use an ai voice. Within 2 years the difference between an ai voice an a human will be negligible.
6 жыл бұрын
ok after saying that, the robot voice did not differentiate between japanese and english words and pronounced hagane and jigane wrong.
@GodotWorld
@GodotWorld 4 жыл бұрын
I would not want to use ink to do layouts. I'd have it all over my hands then have it all over the work and tools. It'd just be a really big mess.
@1244taylor
@1244taylor 6 жыл бұрын
nice video but the f'n music is so loud you can hardly tell what the speaker is sayiing
@pw3543
@pw3543 6 жыл бұрын
I refuse to learn from a robot.
5 жыл бұрын
may I join the club?
@matthewcampbell7836
@matthewcampbell7836 4 жыл бұрын
I did not intend to use this woodworking book, “Bαzοmο Tdy Plαn” (Google it) but instead curious about it. I was really amazed after trying it. I was seeking to find out more about the art of woodworking, and was not disappointed. I discovered many topics such as wood types as well as designing your workshop. .
@boneman1868
@boneman1868 6 жыл бұрын
Aaahh! Scary robot voices are coming to get me. Help!!!
@tomharrell1954
@tomharrell1954 6 жыл бұрын
A movie with a robot talking about traditional tools. Well ok, whatever. The movie can say whatever the photographer wants but the Kanna tool, the plane is simply a poor tool it should have a handle on it to pull instead of grasping the wood base. It's just a very old outdated design. I thought the snap line tool was interesting. The west uses exactly the same tool. We use chalk to make the line and they use ink. The idea of what and how it works is the same principle. To see how the tool evolved in diffirent cultures is cool.
@ardvarkkkkk1
@ardvarkkkkk1 6 жыл бұрын
Thomas D Harrell I agree that their plane are garbage compared to western ones. They do fine on strait grained softwood but they fail badly on more challenging woods. The ink line though, does give a superior line compared to the western chalk line.
@davidputnam4629
@davidputnam4629 5 жыл бұрын
MLB switching over to the Pitching machine?
@jerrynonofbss2588
@jerrynonofbss2588 4 жыл бұрын
Where is OSHA @ 4:29?!
@MrShanghai34
@MrShanghai34 6 жыл бұрын
1:34 aka: nut buster plane
@australianbloke3934
@australianbloke3934 6 жыл бұрын
Great visual content. Please not use a robot voice. Had to stop watching.
@richardglass5573
@richardglass5573 5 жыл бұрын
Would be nice if the robot voice pronounced Japanese correctly.
@judgesan9542
@judgesan9542 3 жыл бұрын
No electric planers to see here please move on, yet again beautiful workmanship.
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@MIJAPLEX
@MIJAPLEX 5 жыл бұрын
Making the bamboo pen or any other Japanese craft should always be played at real frame rate. That was disrespectful.
@lukewarmwater6412
@lukewarmwater6412 6 жыл бұрын
content is great. voicover makes it un watchable
@Texaca
@Texaca 6 жыл бұрын
why are they wearing hard hats indoors, there are no overhead cranes in their shop 🤔😃
@davidputnam4629
@davidputnam4629 5 жыл бұрын
it needs to be a habit. I've been wearing a helmet for 42 years of cycling and had my first crash 2 yeas ago and I survived because I was wearing my helmet. a nasty crash.
@vaughnblaylock6069
@vaughnblaylock6069 6 жыл бұрын
A really decent video, I think (I didn't finish it). The computerized voice is way too annoying. I can't stand it. If you want to do another video some time and would like someone with a decent voice who reads well, send me a PM and I will be happy to do it.
@mynameisray
@mynameisray 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, respect the tools that make it take up to 10 times longer and less accurate than modern day tools.
@davidputnam4629
@davidputnam4629 5 жыл бұрын
this way is not for everyone. I'm glad I fell head over heels into it back in 77. full throttle and had a great time of it with several Stanford grad students as apprentices and even a Harvard law grad for a couple of years. taught many how to sharpen and helped a couple guys decide to give it up because they just wouldn't/couldn't shake their attitudes.
@reiyen4761
@reiyen4761 6 жыл бұрын
voice over ruined it!
@nealbeard1
@nealbeard1 3 жыл бұрын
Mute video, check sub titles play own decent music in background. Open bottle of wine etc
@edadpops1709
@edadpops1709 6 жыл бұрын
No robo voices
@nicparker3809
@nicparker3809 5 жыл бұрын
Best I can do is 1 dollar. Ricks Pawn Shop.
@malcolmoxley1274
@malcolmoxley1274 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't like my bollocks hit by the plane like that ,the man sure has a toughness about him
@hambone4402
@hambone4402 6 жыл бұрын
Please STOP with the robot voice! Everyone hates it. Why would you ruin a video like this? You are getting another thumbs down.
@treefiddy2470
@treefiddy2470 6 жыл бұрын
Why are those men not wearing eye or breathing protection? OSHA would have a field day.
@dny4469
@dny4469 4 жыл бұрын
It's ji-ga-ne. Not jygein. It's a chisel not a kaijuu ffs
@Nheeb
@Nheeb 6 жыл бұрын
I think I've heard the same computer program who is dictating this video doing phone sex ads too.
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts
@WoodworkingEnthusiasts 6 жыл бұрын
haha, truly!
@MrClaudiopb
@MrClaudiopb 6 жыл бұрын
Show
@Rattletrap-xs8il
@Rattletrap-xs8il 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, i listened to about 2 minutes and turned it off. Narrate it live or this just goes into the click chum bin.
@pedrosilvaslva2625
@pedrosilvaslva2625 5 жыл бұрын
Where are the amazing tools? When I was a kid i went with my grandpa to a portuguese building shipyard, and I remebner have seen all these strange tools and other even more strange. I keep two or three here with me. He used to make a lot of things by that time, even a bed to me, he called, Louis IV bed,,, :))) and it was beautifull and amazing confortable, slept always like a baby.
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