@discobikerAndRosie I love hearing adoption stories, all of them. I gave my baby up for adoption in 1975 - not because I didn't want him, but because I loved him enough to give him the life I never had (Mom and Dad, a home, a family), but giving him up almost killed me. I drowned my pain in drugs and alcohol, until I decided he wasn't going to see a tombstone when he went to meet his birth Mother. We're very close today, he'll be 50, and (just like God promises/tenfold blessings) - today I'm a Grandma to two, have two Daughter In Laws (along with their families), and I'm a Great Grandma of 5. God gave me back tenfold. Best choice I ever made. Thank you for sharing your story. Evil Intention - I'm new to your channel, I like your narration, presentation, and that you answered questions about this tragedy. Thank you, I liked and subscribed. (I'm usually not this breathy🙄) One thing I noticed is that the visuals seem to go by so fast, they didn't have time to register... I think it would enhance your video if they went by a hair slower (they flipped by like the old time cartoon calendar pages 😁) My best.

@ColleenLytle-sq8tx God bless you. The Lord knew you loved your child & He watched over you during the hard times. My daughter knows her birth mom & immediate family. I insisted on an open adoption. I wanted my baby to know where she came from. I'm so glad you have a big family now! TY for sharing your story! I know giving your son to someone else was very tough!

My brother was born in July of 94, but he was 10 weeks early, and he would have possibly been born closer to September if he was on time.

My daughter just turned 30 a couple weeks ago

Oliva Anne 😢

Yes, that was quite heartwarming considering the circumstances.

She should have been put in mental Hospital. Rykers Island. Is that the only prison in NY. Why didn't she get mental❤health treatment❤❤. ❤❤❤❤Sad story overall.❤ ❤The pain of delivering a baby in a tub must of been horrendous.❤❤

I cannot believe this went to ❤trial❤. What she did is a result of her mental intability. Glad she went back to London. Her poor family lost all their retirement. Clearly she had some kind of mental breakdown. I have no opinion...too complicated.

Where is Caroline today?

Did u know jho back then ?? U know cause she’s from the Bronx 😂

I am 61 and have never commented on any story before but feel due to two experiences in my life I need to share.i had a young babysitter 17 who cocealed her pregnancy luckily she had the baby and all turned out well in the end but just giving birth on your own is so dangerous and traumatic when I talked to her after she said she was scared and ashamed she thought she had let her parents down by getting pregnant ,another' close friend of mine concealed her pregnancy and the first her whole family where aware was the day she gave birth.both these cases are obviously different to this case because both babies are fine healthy adults now,but I know these girls where very traumatised to coceal the birth.i feel this young woman was hugely mentally unstable and the fact she held on to her baby in the way she did proves it let's face it she could have dropped her bay just about anywhere before going to airport and leaving the country and nobody would have even known but she held on to it I don't believe for a minute any of this was planned action she was completely mentally unwell these things are far from black and white unfortunately ❤

Exactly,and no cheesy stock photos

There IS "music" in the background! I hate that. Maybe it stops, I'm only a few minutes in.

100% Straight to the point no BS! Great Story Teller just found you yesterday, thank you❤

Its so monotone...hé could've easily use AI

A good researcher too.

Same my god!

Truly! I just clicked to see if this was a typo.... wearing a baby around ya neck?!?! WTH

Me too

Right, I did a double take myself

Me and all 😢

Always find it weird when people don't keep the same energy for children

​@@EvilIntentionsSame 😢

Nowadays she would get no jail time

Because they raised their daughter 🤷🏾‍♀️ they have no connection with the baby.

​@@tommesiacooper1258 Exactly. Not saying its right nor wrong but they had their daughter with over 25 years relationship. Itd probably be different had they met their Grandbaby im assuming. OR could be as Casey Anthonys Mom.said, she already lost her grandchild she wasnt losing her daughter no matter what happened. But No telling

Same here Thank God I haven't eaten yet

Same, I might just have to stop when it starts getting to that point.

My curiosity beats my will to not go into the dark hole that is the video

I think I’m going have to take a pass on this. My soul is crushed watching how many children are starving and being murdered around the world in the name of god every day. I don’t need to go back into the past to hear another horror story. 🤍

I agree. Too little "real". Just horrible people out there and too much Sensationalization of these crimes. God help us all. Things like this will go on and on .

I feel you on that. Every single one is one I haven’t seen. When Jose drops a video, I zoom through everything I planned to complete. I shower, pop some popcorn for the hubby, and pour a glass of wine for me. Hubby’s so funny. He sits up in the bed and stares at me. He’s like yum, popcorn 🍿and wine?🍷 then belts out and another one. Then air beats the drums, lol.🥁 So I say, ha-ha, DJ Khalid. He says to me Jose dropped another video, huh? I'm not paying attention or thinking about what he’s yapping about because I’m trying to get comfy in bed to watch the video. So I say, unhuh! He starts dfl so hard and loud. I’m like, babe! Jeez, Louise, be quiet before you wake up the baby. He looks at me and says, you don’t get it? At this point, I’m a little annoyed and say, between shown teeth, get what, babeee?🤷🏾 Lmao! He looks at me with this look, talking about when I said and another one. You got it because you called me DJ Khalid. At that moment, it hit me that he said and another one and beat the invisible drum, lmao, because he was trying to be DJ Khalid. Hahahaha!😂😂🤣🤣 to make me laugh.😆😆 My husband:😐😒 I had to tell this story because my husband is so funny to me and adorable. Let’s just say I had the best laugh before watching the tragedy of little Olivia Ann’s murder. R.I.P. Baby Olivia.❤❤

100%

A stiff letter from the Chancellor. Oh my, that would indeed have an American Judge trembling in fear. 😏

Agree much more detailed and informative than Dateline NBC

It's demonic

Same. Sending you ❤

Same.

I hope you all are against abortion then.

@@maevependragon thanks Hun 💗💗

Exactly !

I was thinking the very same thing, although telling her best friend that she was pregnant while her friend was having any chance at having one taken away from her, and eventually her entire life, would have been rough. She may have thought that getting pregnant at that time was a way the universe was punishing her even more so than just her best friend dieing

IMO her friend had nothing to do with what she did...her kiIIing her child was out of pure selfishness! Her parents treated her like a little girl...maybe in her mind she wouldn't have gotten the attention she wanted from both her parents and her bf if there was another person taking that limelight! Just my opinion.

@dansweda712 I understand, but I honestly believe she used her friend as an excuse. That could've been a beautiful thing they could've shared together during her last days. It may have even given her a new burst of life thinking about the little person who will be taking her place. She didn't even allow the father her boyfriend to try to help her figure it out. She assumed it would've taken the shine away from her friend, but honestly, I think that baby would've brought everyone closer . She never called for help she didn't even tell him .she took his chance of being her father away because she was selfish. Even though it was stated by him, they did speak of wanting children . She was just pure evil.

@@kaleahcollins4567 yeah, I was just trying to understand what was going through her mind, to make the kind of decisions that she had made, I'm thinking they could have been more than just friends, but what was certain was that she did have an unnatural dependency on her friend, because I believe every decision she made was with her friend in mind, no matter how twisted

😮 People having been killing their children since the beginning of time.

@@denisemoore6134 Gross response

@@Trouble_Bubble36 Why? This happens often all over the world. It is gross that it happens, yes.

I don't think this was deliberate.

Unfortunately the UK is a sewer

Maybe her experience made her especially suited for that post. Maybe she wants to „repent“ and give to society and to children in need BECAUSE of her past? 🥺

*scapegoat

What she was working with children. Unbelievable

@@cleanserene6330 my typo is all you got from my comment..smfh ez fix perfect typist

@@cristinaontivero1278 yes she was

But why though? Because what I was thinking was she considered the baby as punishment and she looked at her best friend dying as the same. But instead of honoring her friend she….well yk

Millions of babies are aborted each year and you're asking that question?

You don't understand, it's as simple as that.

@KMF3 there is always a reason as to why people do what they do

@@phoenixjnyc yes absolutely. There is always a reason.

Thank you so much!

I am surprised he does not have more subscribers. This is one of the best channels.

I subbed as soon as I heard His voice! Very well spoken & the story is professionally edited! I'm very impressed with this channel!👍🙏🇨🇦😎❤️

Agreed!

@@EvilIntentions Something Akin To This ALMOST Happened To Me When I Was Born NO Really it Did If We Somehow Meet I'll Tell Ya How It Happened

Not 9 months old sweetheart.. probably miss-spelt, hours old.

The airport? She had the baby strapped to her neck while they were sight seeing

@@poisonivyheart6621 I think she meant, full-term baby.

* A *murdered* baby!

Huh? You are wrong. It was a newborn baby, only a few HOURS old.

I totally agree. Pregnancy hormones are not a joke. Add in the grief and shame, yikes.

I always hate when these cases pop up on true crime channels, there is very little compassion in the comments section. It's so clearly a mental health phenomenon.

Cause this part right here!!! Say it again please!!!! Nobody else seems to have caught it!!! 😕😞

That's what I said. Just weirdo behavior

I think the relationship was mostly about Paul’s needs and putting the pieces together, this woman was in a relationship with an emotionally unavailable person, lost her best friend, had no doubt a lot of pressure from her job and no one notices her falling apart bit by bit - I don’t believe she deliberately killed her child, wouldn’t it have been easier to dispose of the baby in the middle of New York, not tie her to your chest? The girl was very sick , it’s really very sad!

It’s disgusting! Not excusing her at all, but women literally get 100% the blame for everything.

Yeah. Something doesn’t seem right at all. Paul doesn’t seem like the poor innocent victim he’s made out to be. This video is incredibly bias, misleading,and definitely leaves out a lot of important details. Like prenatal depression is an actual thing. Yes, the baby is a victim but it’s not just black and white. Mental illness doesn’t work that way.

Yes! Once her friend passed, why didnt she tell him? She deserved way more than 8 months in jail.

Exactly, makes one wonder who the dad actually was. Why not tell Paul

It sounds like she had a complete mental break. As someone above said, pregnancy hormones are not a joke. The fact that she went to the airport with the deceased baby demonstrates she wasn't in her right mind. I can state this and still feel sorry for the baby.

If she planned it, she could have gone on to the street, thrown it in the trash, and gone home.

@@LoloO42 Good Point. However, she went to great lengths to conceal.

@@LoloO42 lol yeah then she knew that the baby would come back on her if she was to do that. Plus she could’ve let them know the baby died and still took the baby back smh y’all would give everybody a pass

She was in full blown psychosis

Babies don’t always cry at birth.

Yes, I believe so, but I am NOT condoning her actions. Why else would she take her deceased baby with her to the airport, thus uncovering the terrible truth? How come nobody heard the baby cry after she was born if she was alive? Guilty people do their best to cover up their crimes and cover their tracks. Caroline did not discard her baby, which she could easily have done without detection. Nevertheless, this is a terrible case, poor baby Olivia and my heart goes out to her Dad Paul.

I totally agree with you, I came on to comment that none of us knows how we would react in those circumstances.I came on to comment saying something along those lines but reading most comments people are sadly lacking in compassion RIP baby girl

She needed help. So awful that nobody noticed her pregnancy or urged her to see a psychologist for depression. She seems to have been absorbed into her boyfriend's family but didn't she have any family of her own? Nobody she could confide in? That's tragic, if so. But yes, she was clearly in shock while delivering that poor baby alone in a hotel room in a strange city and unfamiliar country. Out of her mind, indeed. Not a cold blooded murderer, in my opinion, but a frightened, physically compromised young woman who had nobody she could trust to help her. Just so terribly sad. Hiding the corpse under her clothes is weird, definitely, and it makes no rational sense unless you consider that she might have wanted to keep the baby close to her for emotional comfort. To bring her home for a proper burial, maybe. Impossible to know what was going on in her tortured mind.

Agreed… She had been very ill for a long time. Her friend’s illness, subsequent death, and guilt surrounding her pregnancy was too much for her to mentally handle. She tried to cope through denial and dissociation, and the pregnancy hormones just tipped her into psychosis. It’s very sad that her family didn’t notice or care about her declining mental health and get her help.

Absolutely. The lack of empathy or understanding in these comments is disgusting.

I´m sure NYC has even crazier stories than this.

💔

Olivia Ann is in paradise where no baby girl is harmed away from this cruel world, playing with all the other children, in the care of Jesus. She wasn’t meant for this evil place!

Caroline is a living woman with a serious mental illness

Trust me, I understand. Sorry for your loss.

@@EvilIntentions Thank you and God bless you.

💜🙏🏿

🙏🕊

Hugs💚💚💚💚🥺

You are absolutely correct.

It's so easy to say that. You can't force someone to get help especially when you offer it and they move away from it.

@@lizar7623I understand what you are saying. I had a friend commit suicide and if I had been more switched on maybe I could have prevented it, this person showed all the signs of depression and I was too wrapped up in my own world to notice. I would like to think if I was in the same situation again I would recognise the signs and be more pro-active.

But it was a different world back then. Depression was considered selfindulgent and being lazy. The tide was only just starting to turn with mental health. It wasn't all flags n banners as it is now. I was 27 in 1994. I've suffered depression since puberty. People were still very much "pull yourself together" & "stop feeling sorry for yourself" my own gp told me to "get out there n stop thinking about yourself so much" just 2yrs after losing my daughter to cotdeath.

She had Perinatal depression and a very serious case of it , we are all pretty familiar with PND but not so with Perinatal depression, which in serious cases are a considered a very high risk to the baby . I have worked with women with both and it would likely surprise you to now that there are cases of women with PND who believe that their very alive 3 month old is dead ! We should not judge, these cases are completely different from women who starve and torture their kids or pass them around to be abused. Mental illness would still have been so stigmatised in 1990’s in the U.K they were only beginning to understand PND never mind Perinatal depression? Because it’s invisible doesn’t mean it’s not happening to someone!

easy now...this woman was very ill ...remember to walk in another's shoes

You're a stupd fk, u don't know what you're talking abt, stfu

Yes she does! She was psychotic!!! Poor girl. Poor baby

​@@firefly88887The UK has free Healthcare she could have gone she is just evil.

We only have the word of a sadly disturbed woman about what happened while she gave birth. This content creator gave her no quarter, and painted it against her, just like the American justice system. Post-natal and peri-natal depression and psychosis are no joke. Symptoms can onset rapidly after the hormonal ordeal of giving birth.

I'm genuinely convinced she had a severe form of depression and was in a state of shock/psychosis. Does that mean it's ok-no but mental illness is unreal. I used to think a lot of untrue things about mental illness. I saw my sister, after a traumatic event kinda just become a shell of herself. It started affecting her mothering. I used to say "it doesn't matter I've been depressed and id NEVER allow it to affect my ways of mothering etc". Until I had emergency surgery almost died, my mother died, I got a cancer diagnosis, had several surgeries, my father died, and my relationship became abusive, all in a 3 year time span. My God I don't even know how I was functioning. While my son was with his dad I "took a week to myself" next thing I knew it had been 6 months and I had no idea how time flew. I had emotionally abandoned my son and did irreparable damage. I became the thing I never understood. I finally snapped out of it and am getting help and slowly repairing my relationship with my son. But honestly I think she mentally avoided the fact she was pregnant. Like extreme denial. Then when she had it it immediately put her in an overwhelmed state and panic. She wasn't calculating anything at that point she was just in autopilot survival mode.

Hormones are fucking crazy.

He keeps the story flowing and has a nice voice, very soothing. I like that he’s not all over the place! 😊

Lol yall love seeing that mentally insane crap for everything! She knew exactly wtf she was doing!

I agree. No one knew. She could of disposed of the baby's body and it would of never been connected to her because she would of been back in the UK. Clearly she was mentally ill and had convinced herself that the baby was stillborn. Sounds like she believed that prior to the baby being born. It's a terrible situation regardless, but I don't thinking putting her away for life would of been the right choice.

The same baby's father that didn't bother to claim her and take her back home and honor her with even a proper burial in his name? No, thank you

@@tipennya oh wow I somehow missed that bit.

We didn't want her

Where are you from?? Im on the East Coast of the US and it's currently 9:08 pm here

Ooooh, sounds intriguing? You make it sound like it's a love story! Are you nuts!

@@Bloxsor only saw your message now, I'm from South Africa.

@@KittynFranky7643 oh, ok

Yeah, her parents had some nerve blaming Paul (and blaming the US justice system)!

As you are obviously such 'God-fearing' People, just pray fervently to your God that none of your loved ones ever suffer from psychosis. She obviously was suffering from pre- and post-partum psychosis. In layman's terms, she was stone-cold crazy. Whereas you accusers are just stone cold. May God forgive you too.

Pronounce things properly? I nearly went mad with his bad pronunciation of Leyton, over and over and over:(

I truly appreciate that!

I’ve delivered 3 babies (1 with no pain control, 2 with epidural wearing off). I can’t even begin to imagine going on a trip around the city and taking a flight overseas after giving birth alone in a bathtub. God, I was in so much pain…I absolutely can’t imagine.

​@@TheDutchessOfCornvilleMillions have given birth!

You make a really good point about them being procrastinators. I really hadn’t thought about it from that angle, but it makes a ton of sense. He sounds like an awful boyfriend if he could leave her in that much pain in order to not waste a fun night out. Kinda sad and shows that there was a lack of love and respect already and it’s easy to understand why she would not want a baby with him. Especially after the loss of Allison, which clearly affected her. It’s very sad because that little baby was the true victim and her mother’s heart or father’s pride.

Thank you, I feel the same, and reading other comments, I felt like I was watching a different video. For whatever reason, Caroline didn't have enough support. She wasn't an evil woman, ready to murder her baby and go off sight seeing, she was a woman in mental distress, perhaps psychosis, being presented with an unbearable set of circumstances and resulting mental load (unplanned pregnancy, grief) that are significant for anyone, even in good mental health, to deal with, and she couldn't handle it all and had a mental break. There are plenty of stories of women who suffer greatly and harm their children and that are treated with empathy (Andrea Yates, Lindsay Clancy are two) and I see this story no differently. The concept of peripartum depression must not have existed in the 90s, it certainly does now.

They were engaged. He said they got engaged after a year of living together.

@@trudilawrence9899 sorry , I must have missed that I went after er saying she didn’t want her boyfriend to know about the pregnancy & the fact they hadn’t married after a ten year relationship. To me that’s procrastination for a female . Postponing marriage for that long is strange.

Important to remember that procrastination is about fear. I’m sure there was underlying fear that was deeply subconscious, and then put immeasurable grief on top of that. Grief over the loss of a close friend can last for years, and it sounds like she went into denial about even being pregnant or how bad her grief was, and completely negated her own needs. The fact that she kept the baby to bring it home means she wanted or cared about the baby. Tragic story. She was not a threat to others. She needed help/therapy. Glad she eventually got it. Punishment is the lowest form of discipline/teaching. Her inability to care for herself, inability to recognize her own needs, inability to self-advocate, inability to take responsibility for herself, resulted in tragedy and loss of life. Hopefully she has managed to gain a life of hope and service to self and others.

I can relate to your story I cared for my mum for 7years I woke to do her breakfast Tina make me a cup of tea ,I did held it to her mouth , then she had a heart attack gone in a flash , I screamed to house down I went into shock . My hair fell out soon after , I’m so sorry for your pain love no one understands but you will , how much hurt ,memories pain loss

I'm so sorry for what you went thru and I hope your doing much better today 🙏

​@@tinacollins9213so sorry for you too and same to you in I hope your doing much better today 🙏

I know a woman who sleeps 14hrs a day.She is not suffering from depression.

@@dianabeurman364 fascinating

@@dianabeurman364could be due to fatigue related to a medical issue. 14 hours of sleep daily is not normal and your friend should consult a doctor.

Thank you so much!

Thank you so much for the kind words!

Thank you for that!

Thank you for the kind words!

My boy was born in November 96 ❤

Full stop. Please don't do this. You dont know the emotions of this woman, and how she felt. Its clear she was grief strictened, also respectful of not overshadowing a close friend whose dying, that wanted kids who had to remove her reproductive parts. This isnt about you but her. Lastly, I'm happy to hear that you love your children unconditionally 👀. Please continue to hug them, to get to them and understand them, to advocate for them like her parents did. 🩷

​As were thousands of babies!

Yawn yawn. Guess how many women out there have a babies and *don’t* bang on about it??

Thank you so much! I appreciate you!

He said the same about the U.S. and I agree: we've lost respect as a society for human life, even that of babies.

Somone calculated and evil wouldn't walk around with dead baby in airport trying to fly out. Mental health exists and people need to understand mistreating mentally ill people and throwing them in jail won't fix it.

She honestly didnt do anything wrong. Grief is a strong emotion, especially of youre connected to your best friend whos dying, and wanted children.

​Whaaat?!? So, in order to overcome your grief you kill a baby? I have lost both my parents, and a brother who slowly died of cancer, but never imagine to take another creature's life to "cope" with it, not even a fly's.

@kati-ana You "guess" wrong. Silly thing to say.

He very well with all the other wonky English place names

I’m English as well live in Massachusetts saving grace is Leicester is pronounced Lester lol most of the pronunciations are the same !