In this tips video, we look into chemical/cold blacking, and also discuss other methods of blackening steel. I also show which product I use and demonstrate how to use it. Channel artwork: Ryan Toomey
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@mchiodox69 Жыл бұрын
I support your Guinness recommendation.....no MSDS sheet required! Well done, Thanks Jon.
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi mchiodox69, lol, I fear my doctors (if I had any) would disagree with my assessment 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Cheers, Jon
@tomrenken2128 Жыл бұрын
Good delivery of knowledge. Excellent choice of beverage too !
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, thanks for the comment and feedback. It most certainly is👍. Cheers, Jon
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian Жыл бұрын
Hi Jon. Thank you for a very useful video. I didn’t realise that the solution could be reused. I will check out the product you use and compare it with what I’ve been using. Many thanks. 👏👏👍😀
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, thanks for the comment. Worth a try mate, nothing to loose. Cheers, Jon
@daveticehurst4191 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍Worth making video and showing us Jon. Well done. Regards from Australia.
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, thanks for the comment and feedback, it will help me out lots as well, much less typing to do now. Cheers, Jon
@TheRecreationalMachinist Жыл бұрын
Cheers Jon, another interesting video. I've had mixed results with HyBlack from youplate. From what you've said I think inadequate degreasing may be my problem. They sell the solution in small quantities, so not as big an outlay for just experimenting with. Steam / rust bluing is also on my to-do list, but that list only ever gets longer!
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the comment. Degreasing is absolutely fundamental to good results, they need to be absolutely spotless. Even dust particles cause trouble by trapping air bubbles meaning the product doesn't touch the surface in small spots. Cheers, Jon
@tonypewton5821 Жыл бұрын
Good morning Jon, excellent video! Great timing, i am just in the process of making a lot of tooling for my flypress (punches/dies etc. This will be a perfect solution to stopping the surface rust while on the storage shelf in between uses! Thank you Jon. Regards Tony.
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, thanks for the comment, glad you found it useful mate. Cheers, Jon
@hilltopmachineworks2131 Жыл бұрын
I think a safety sheet should come with the Guinness too. I have seen too many friends make mistakes after consuming copious amounts. Especially at closing time of the bar. LOL!
@TheAyrCaveShop Жыл бұрын
Lol 😁
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, thanks for the comment. Lol, been there once or twice. Cheers, Jon
@TrPrecisionMachining Жыл бұрын
good video Jon..thanks for your time
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Tr, thanks for the comment and feedback, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
@Steviegtr52 Жыл бұрын
Having done quite a bit of Blacking myself I can only agree totally with you. It really does protect as you say. Although I do have a toolholder with a great big finger print on it. Oops. Regards. Steve.
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, thanks for the comment, lol, quick degrease and back in the black will sort it out 👍. Cheers, Jon
@MattysWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Gday Jon, great video, I’ve never been a fan of the look of blacken tools, I prefer the shiny look but here I don’t have much issue with corrosion thankfully, the product you use certainly works well, top job mate and make sure you keep the blacking solution up to the stomach lining, cheers
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Matty, thanks for the comment. You certainly do shiny very well mate, best on KZfaq I reckon👍👍😊. Cheers, Jon
@lauriesworkshop2363 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a good video, very useful. Didn't realise that these fluids could be kept for repeated use. Might be time to buy some...... Laurie.
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Laurie, thanks for the comment. I can only say it works with the stuff I use, worth a try though, nothing to lose. Cheers, Jon
@TheAyrCaveShop Жыл бұрын
Cheers Jon, Good one ! One precaution on anything that's been chemically blued or color case hardened.... Evaporust or similar products will remove the coloring, since it's a form of rust. Found out the hard way.... ATB......
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Dean, thanks for the comment. That's a good point, thanks for adding it to the chat, hopefully helps someone else out. Cheers, Jon
@624Dudley Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jon, good information 👍. Guinness is a helpful compound. 😁
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Dudley, thanks for the comment and feedback. It most certainly is😊. Cheers, Jon
@bostedtap8399 Жыл бұрын
Good video Jon.
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks John. Cheers, Jon
@2WHEELSor2WINGS Жыл бұрын
I use a very similar product from Frost's. I have been throwing it away after one use. I will now try reusing and see how it goes, thanks for this tip. 👍😎
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Graham, thanks for the comment. Worth a try mate, nothing to lose. Cheers, Jon
@ollysworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Jon. I got some cold blue that I need to try out. I suppose your method using the meths means you can always sneak a cheeky extra shot into the Guinness! 😂
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Olly, thanks for the comment. Have you been watching me again?? Lol. Cheers, Jon
@willemvantsant5105 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jon, just saw the price! I use potassium nitrate, aka salt petre, melted in steel container and get a nice deep blue, cheap here in Philippines but probably on the naughty list of chemicals in UK. As an apprentice 50 years ago we used it for blueing our projects.
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Willem, thanks for the comment. Yeah, saltpetre is not a thing over here nowadays. Price isn't too bad really, £25 for a litre that will last about 10 years = £2.50 a year to protect all your parts etc. Cheers, Jon
@dermotkelly2971 Жыл бұрын
Drink that Guinness John! You cant leave it standing for too long. I can't afford it in Thailand It's about 8 quid a pint.
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Dermot, thanks for the comment. Wow! I will have one for you mate. Cheers, Jon
@nobbysworkshop Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I'm with you Jon, and prefer chemical cold bluing. I use Phillips cold Blue, 1:3 mix. The bottle does have all the warnings on the bottle. Very harmful chemical. I wear rubber gloves and safety glasses and a face mask. Although I admit I didn't wear the mask in my video so I could talk about it, but that's the only time. Promise. Cheers Nobby
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Nobby, thanks for the comment. Yes, it is nasty stuff, sometimes when I have been doing a lot, or big parts, I have seen vapour coming off the top of the liquid. Cheers, Jon
@thehobbymachinistnz Жыл бұрын
Hi Jon, when I first saw the Guinness I wondered if the level would go down during the video. I have done a lot of hot bluing over the years (e.g. heating the items with a torch then quenching in oil). That works great and the main reason I did not use cold bluing solutions is that they are so expensive in NZ. But, I recently found a 1 liter bottle of Birchwood Casey Perma Blue Liquid for a really good price so I brought it. I presume it is similar to the product you use. I have used it on a few parts and it does make a good finish so I am happy with it. Yes, it is really strange that your bottle does not have and warning labels on it.
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Jon, thanks for the comment. Glad you have found a solution (excuse the pun) 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Cheers, Jon
@Warped65er Жыл бұрын
Thx for the vid.
@NellsMechanicalManCave Жыл бұрын
Well,,, that was well timed😊 Ive been given a Perfecto lathe and intend restoring it. Lots of parts that are rusted and need re-blacking. Was thinking of going down the hydrogen peroxide and boiling route but i think I'll follow you down your path. Nicely done Jon !! Cheers Neil
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Neil, thanks for the comment, glad it was useful mate. Cheers, Jon
@robertkoper3039 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jon,…I will try the re-using of the chemicals.Always used new stuff for some reason.I never seem to get a good result on threaded areas must be the cleaning or lack of it😅
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Robert, thanks for the comment. Nothing to lose trying, might not work with all products. Threaded holes need a lot of work to degrease, brake and clutch cleaner and a brush work well. Cheers, Jon
@kimber1958 Жыл бұрын
well no I do not drink alcohol however I could drink a Guinness Dark Stout i'm time to time and very much enjoy it. I will on occasion have a shot of whiskey nate but for the most part I don't drink but I can't appreciate that fine Dark stout. great video Thank you for sharing. it looks like maybe we need to exchange stickers I have I have one of yours. but I do not believe you have one of my stickers good days cheers Kimber
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Kimber, thanks for the comment. Email me (my address is on the start and end screens of all my videos), and I will send you my address for a sticker exchange. Cheers, Jon
@swanvalleymachineshop Жыл бұрын
Go on , try dunking them in Guinness ! 👍👍👍
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Lol, not happening! Cheers, Jon
@tonyray91 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jon, you are absolutely correct that the product should carry the GHS chemical hazard symbols that are on the safety data sheet (SDS]. If not Caswell are in breach of the GB Classification Labelling & Packaging regulations. You can report this through your local Trading Standards Office. I would have tried their products but unless they get their act together I’ll avoid them.
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, thanks for the comment. Yes, it definitely seems odd. I would expect it from something imported but not a UK product. To be honest though, even if the whole bottle was covered in warnings, lots of people just ignore them, they are primarily there to protect the suppliers, not the users as sad as that sounds. Cheers, Jon
@stevecallachor Жыл бұрын
You didn’t tell us that it costs 80 quid for a litre.. the instructions are readily available online. Stavros
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, thanks for the comment. I just checked Caswell Europe's website, it is £24.95 a litre?? Maybe you are out of the UK and this is postage? Cheers, Jon
@tonypewton5821 Жыл бұрын
Ay up Jon, any chance you have a link for the best place to get this stuff from please? Tony
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, thanks for the comment, go to Caswell Europe's website, mild steel black £24.95 a litre. Cheers, Jon
@tonypewton5821 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jon, much appreciated! 👍
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Do they also use the same product to blacken your Guinness?
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Rusti, thanks for the comment, judging by my rusty old joints, I guess not lol. Cheers, Jon