Shiratsuyu is also missing, this ship is really a pain

1:32 Then there is just me fully grinding Oland without free XP. Its the hardest ship to learn in the line but when played right can be very powerful.

I knew the Ibuki was going to be on here! And I do remember getting my bell rung hard at the start, but once I figured it out I really dig the ship. It’s one of my go-tos if I’m on a starting fire mission, flooding missions too. Basically, once you open fire with your guns you should be turning away and getting out of dodge-which is where its speed comes in handy. I don’t go out of my way to try and bait people into kiting, but if you want to try and chase me, enjoy your platter of torpedoes and a side order of beat down. Plus in contrast to C turret on the Takao, since all your forward turrets are facing the same direction you don’t have that weird “turret pointing the wrong way” nonsense to deal with.

I love the Lepanto that really deletes destroyers😉

before the fire mechanic rework King George V was awesome it was basically a 28kt Nelson that could burn everything with its HE, however the fire mechanic change really neutered the entire British line and with the exception of Monarch the entire line needs a rework

Your list is pretty accurate. I’ve done very little grinding on most Russian boats because they don’t stack up compared to others of the same tier. The British BB and newer cruiser lines are also not worth the grind. Well done.

Bretagne was such an utter dog, i thoroughly enjoyed Normandie, but as a general rule, i like a good battlecruiser, so possibly that explains why. Also, Aoba and the Furry Taco were fun for me, the 203 AP slaps the red guys most righteously. :)

Great video. Near the end of the video I was curious why you hadn’t mentioned any of the British heavy cruisers because they are so bad. Then BOOM. I was so excited when they came out and was equally disappointed. I enjoyed the grind up to the Minotaur so much better.

HAWKINS NEEDS TO BE REMOVED also I kind of like normandie but it needs a little buff I’m also surprised Dallas is not in this list And I know how to buff Goliath and drake

Wholeheartedly agree on Roon and Tashkent. Free-XPd the former and rage-quitted the entire line at the latter. I also see why people hate the Izumo, but at least the ship got that uniquely tight shell grouping, so imo Izumo deserves no more than a honorable mention. I play BBs very little, but I honestly found it no worse than other T9 BBs (who probably suffer more at T9 than cruisers or DDs) Can we perhaps get some footage of a really good Goliath game?

Good video my friend. Generally I agree with you, here is my list in case anyone cares. Don't know if you excluded premiums for any reason but I did include some. Not all premiums are decent. The list is in order of worst ships first T5: who cares right, but these ships are so bad I have to - Hawkins, Furutaka, Emerald, Kotovsky - honorable mention to the venerable Krispy Kreme T6: I agree with your picks (Aoba is horrible) and add these - Hatsuharu (not sure what this is good at honestly), Devonshire, Guepard T7: somewhat agree but my list is a little different and adding premiums - Algerie (awful in the meta), Vaquelin (other than decent speed not good at anything), Ise (I know people like it but sorry I think it sucks and love seeing one on the other team), Lyon (this is worse than KGV IMO as KGV can HE spam), Haida (this is just not useful) Francesco (agreed not good but better than previous ships) T8: Mostly agree with you but adding premiums and have to disagree on the Lightning which I think is actually good - Trashkent, Oland, Fenyang, LeTerrible, Talinn, Tiger (gimmicky and fun but not a good ship) T9: Completely Agree with your choices but adding a premium - Ibuki, Roon, Riga, Drake (seen people make it work but no thanks), Izumo, Sovetsky, Azuma (I know some folks like it but I think its a terrible waste of money) T10: Completely agree with your choices but adding a premium - Zao (hard to play, some people can make it work but not for me), Goliath (where's the love for @Kraenesk? He's a pro at this one), Khabarovsk (if its so good why is it not in the meta?), Yoshino (See Azuma but objectively worse in the meta) As you can see I'm not much of a Japanese cruiser or French DD person (its fine to disagree on this) ... they have their place but the ones I mentioned I love to see ..... on the other team. Anyway thats what I got. Thanks for the great topic!

I enjoyed this video. Izumo was for me the worst for me. I went through this line early and did not have as much ability to bypass with XP. You still see a lot of these (people grinding Yamato).

LOL I have no clue what you are talking about. Furutaka and Aoba are great. So many MVPs I got in them.

Of course just my opinion. My only complaint with Oland was the lack of AA. Skane is the one to skip in that line. Lightning is fairly solid and disagree with the skip. Besides that, can’t disagree with the skips

KGV, Drake and Algerie are three of my favorite ships in the game. I admit I had to work to love the Algerie, I still prefer the Zara but Algerie is right there but King George and Drake are right at the top of the list for me. Haven’t unlocked any tier 10’s yet except Napoli which I got from the crate on first draw lol.

Me before I play Tallinn: Oh. Its an Admiral Hipper with Donskoi Guns. How Hard can it be? Me after touching Tallinn: wtf. It can't pen, its inaccurate. Even my damn Prinz Eugen can beat Tallinn in a 1v1 match. Acquiring Riga: Finally after that painful grind. I got Riga. Its a Tier 9 Moskva. How hard can it be? After playing couple of games: I hate this ship. Such a big target. Easy to get sunk. Armor is non-existant. Still can't pen and also inaccurate. Is Petro good? Playing Petro in Press Account: Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Don't even spend the whole grind for this absolute trash. How many buffs will it take for this whole Heavy Cruiser Soviet Line to get the love it needs before the Black Seas turns to the Red Seas?

I found Soviet Union to be really good at tier 9. yes a little bit slower and less maneuverable than Vladivostok but it's got much better AA I found it to be a lot tankier and the secondaries have good range too. the biggest problem I had with it is the short gun range what the Russian battleships really need to be played at 10 km or closer anyway since the guns can't hit anything past 10 km

The Aoba and yahagi are basically identical so yahagi is also not worth it and I speak from experience.

There are a lot of ships that I haven't played. But for those I had played, I can agree with Algeria, it's a massive disappointment after the T6 predecessor, and I haven't got to T8 to this day. I also skipped the Izumo with FXP, and I think it worth it as the Yamato is decent at T10. King George V is also a slightly disappointing. However, once I figured out to use AP against most targets, it's kind of playable. I was surprised Normadie is in the tier, as I found more trouble with Lyon than this, perhaps due to the lower average player skills in low tiers. I actually did pretty well with Normadie. I was also surprised by T7 Italian BB in the list. I think it's a perfectly playable ship, slightly above average. There are a few ships that I am currently grinding and was disappointed by but are not on the list. Maybe I played them in a wrong way. I have so much trouble with Geveny. The guns are OK, but torpedo is horrible, and maneuverability is not as good as other DDs. I also found Zara a bit disappointing. Trento at T6 is so powerful, and Zara is pretty much the same except at T7, not sure if other ships down the line are good or not.

17:45 haha so true I'm glad that I had enough fxp to skip Soyuz.

That's a lot of copper, steel you're missing out. I agree they're all bad to half decent ships, Just play them during afterhours with bots to farm them.

Oooooh so that's why I get absolutely demolished in the drake when I was doing very good in the Albemarle...

Well thank you a lot for the video I agree 100% with the King George V

Love tashkhen , great ship if you are agressive

I’m probably one of the few people who genuinely likes most of the British heavy cruisers (I bought Cheshire in the Shipyard ages ago and once I got used to its play-style and fully upgraded its commander, I had a lot of fun with it and the lower-tier heavy cruisers). I do get why Drake’s on the list, though - I think if Drake had the same consumables as Cheshire (i.e. another charge of smokescreen) and if its “seek and destroy” and “burning seas” battle honours were reordered (sinking cruisers specifically is taking forever…), it would have more potential! Albemarle is pronounced al-buh-maal, btw 😁

3:45 what is he talking about the shifting?

Imo until you get to the Edinburgh the whole British CA line sucks. Other cruisers just wreck you, the guns are just awful. It's just super hard to play. From T8 onwards it get really fun. Izumo ain't bad, it prepares you for the Yamato. The worst ship ever for me was Ibuki. Just got wrecked every game. Takao was really fun. Ibuki was just a worse Takao. Rage quit that line lol. Is Zao worth it?

I like the lion and izzy.they need a buff yes.but like them.your list is is pretty good.i like the tier 7 Italian bb i can do well with her..needs a buff for sure, And the DRAKE.. I LOVE THE DRAKE. BUT IT NEEDS A REALLY BIG BUFF IF NOT TOTAL REWORK.BUT I'll take the drake over Hawkins,oh man the Hawkins just..no words on my hate for it.Great list.

The Francesco C. is a good ship. 81% win rate by 42 games played

I'm not sure if this has been said yet but where is the FDG? No honorable mention at least? That ship is not fun with the current meta. If you have the free XP to skip to GK it would be worth the skip. GK can work pretty well while FDG can be pain.

KGV is actually easier to play with the buffs; great ship, good AA (once got clear sky on human cv when he focused me, only took ~15)

I loved the Algerie, felt like a down-tiered Hipper with consistent damage on all ships.

Im not for skipping ships ,if i want to know better thise game in need to use all the ships to know the bad and good things that they have .If u know what i mean.

For me the Algerie is the best t7 Cruiser I ever played. I have a average damage of 42k and a win rate of nearly 60%.

What? When i grinded Zao Ibuki was actually very fun. Definitly better than Takao...

Drake was the worst part of the line literally the worst ship I've ever played. I like Golsliath, I do decent in it, but I'm not dumb enough to think it's a great ship.

I expected the Freddy on this list because it really suffers from t9 matchmaking and Just feels Like a downgrade from the Bismarck

What is 'Free Experience'? Is there another kind of exp?

great video, a bit surprised you dont put any italian cruiser on the list cuz i remember you put venezia in hard grind ranking, are the ships in entire line generally meh or good?

I wish they would listen to us as the paying customers.. i mean in a way they do.. but how long did it take to fix silver economy.. to reduce the size of a ship like goliath, how difficult can it be? Im a chef not it guy i dont know.. but i can imagine the code is there for the object.. let the trainee take a day to look for size=3 and put 2 there 😂 I skipped t6+7on italian bb line.. t6 was bad already 😂 They really need to buff up many midtier ships so its not a p2w wall for new players, old guys like us in stuff like makarov or prinz eitel its just not fair 😂

I very like Franceso Caracciolo, she isn't clearly a very good ship like all other bb in Italian line but for me she is good

And the ibuki another that needs some love I agree.i like her,but she is so frustrating to play.so please WG give ibuki some help.

7:26 I would like to disagree, Francesco Caracciolo was easier for me to play than the Vittorio Veneto, and have overall better stats in it too

How dare you sir. The lightning is great. I also rather enjoyed the fantasque grind

Good video but I couldn’t help but laugh at “it’s objectively bad in my opinion” lol

Saw a ton of Drakes in this last respawn.

what is your opinion on the T8 german BC Zeiten?

Personally I think the entire line of Soviet Battleships are absolutely crap

Izumo wase a butthurt when I grinded the yama

as a new player, I was looking forward to grinding out the Petro line, but I guess I'll pass or something.

Getting the legendary modules and skipping the tech lines that players don't want or have to resource to grind, they are definitely worthy Free EXP

Agreed. Shiratsuyu and Minnesota is missing in my opinion

All the British BB suck ,i got monarch with free exp when the line was released and so disappointed,with Algerie i agree with u and Lyon is disaster ,played almos all line but hard is Saint Loise ,to keep all HM and u get Henry yeahhh

Interesting. Hint and then question. I use to spend my "Ship XP" & "Ship XP / Free XP" boosters willy nilly. Now I save them exclusively for the long grinds. Question: I'm trying to "Battle Honor" the copper, steel, and titanium out of all my ships. Titanium is scare where is the brest place to get titanium?

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(british ca main laughs in pain

I don't know why people don't like the Drake it's one of my favorite ships

Nooo F. Caracciolo is OP!

Lmao start off with a decent ship

i just need a bogue

I really hate Aoba

Man now i am trying to Get out of Aoba 😂

Oi Slai don't put my waifu Ibuki in the list. (I am now officially pissed off, don't make me return to blitz so soon) I actually prefer the arcs of the Ibuki rather than that of the Takao, normally you will be kiting in these ships anyway, so having good rear torp arcs to matters a lot. That is also why I prefer Ibuki over Takao (My usual playstyle is firing the torps when concealed, wait for a bit for the torps to make their way to the target, then shoot, only allowing the target little to no reaction time to dodge these torps. Big note: these are long range HE spammers, not big DDs #WGStopPostingMisleadingInformation, the last thing you will, and should be doing, is to rush an enemy ship, the bad forward arcs of both the main battery turrets and torpedo tubes are already suggesting you not to do that, not mentioning the shell magnet of the front superstructure). Ibuki is also solid as well, HE is very decent, AP can be unexpectedly punchy at medium range, very long range torps(in fact one of the longest range torps you can get, almost 10km range), very neat concealment, and high top speed for a cruiser, she can basically be as fast as Donskoi, if not faster(also the recent buffs makes her even more solid). Of course there are downsides for this ship, like weak armour and AA, but come on, aren't these typical for IJN cruisers, if not for all cruisers? Just deal with it.

However, it is just me who didn't skip this ship or I'm just a masochist? Btw I killed an Alaska with my Roon around my first match with her.

Kgv wasn't bad

I got lion and abandoned that line 🤮

Tashkent is my worst ship I have Yeti

Phoenix and Omaha are the worst ships in the game imo. The guns are inaccurate and do little damage the torps are... There and they don't teach you anything about the rest of the lines. I think they are fine from a historic point of view and shouldn't be changed but really, just skip 'em.

all the Pẻroo lis a failure.

What about Dallas?! That ship suuuuucks