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@meganoobbg3387 5 ай бұрын

Submarine and CV gameplay - target practice Surface ship gameplay - dodge everything simulator

@SapphirosCZ 5 ай бұрын

Thats DD and some cruiser only Rest of classes - try to dodge, get f* anyway

@Lexekon 5 ай бұрын

@@SapphirosCZ Play subs. You will get the dodging from ships all over, BBs included big time.

@ZenoDovahkiin 5 ай бұрын

A single anecdotal video where for some reason the enemy DDs are just asleep at the wheel and sink in 4 seconds giving the sub free range to harass the big ships undetected is not representative. By that logic, I could also "prove" DDs to be OP by picking a match where one team gets a 4 against 0 DD situation quickly and snowballs.

@Lexekon 5 ай бұрын

@@ZenoDovahkiin So much THIS. Half of these videos do not seem to show amazing player skill on the subject player, but rather asleep at the wheel cluelessness on part of their targets. Been noticing this with a lot of videos, just makes me wish I could get matches like that.

@Cedric8486_1 5 ай бұрын

the torp reload crew must be on meth- Sealord lol

@Itsallgoodtogo 5 ай бұрын

When I play my sub and get spotted like that I'm blown up instantly ... mah dude just sails.

@Phuc_Socialist_You_Tube 5 ай бұрын

It seems to be a matter of how much money you spend. The sub in this video was pinging like its a pong tournament and the ASW couldn't find him? On the surface? I call B.S. on this one.

@cyberwaste 5 ай бұрын

Had a U-2501 sitting beneath my Republique, a Yamato, and a Montana last night. Every time he pinged, we dropped a massive square of ASW over the area and none of us hit him. He was inside a ~6x6km square but nothing tagged him until his battery ran out and he tried to shotgun me and I blew his face off at 3km. The changes they made just made ASW less painful and subs more able to spin about away from the ping locator that doesn't show up anywhere near the sub so you're just guessing where to drop.

@GulNadar 5 ай бұрын

It's rarer that a sub just stays its course. It doesn't take much to make a 60-degree turn if they fire from the edges of firing angles which are about 30 degrees. About the same as trying to dodge shells in a surface ship effort-wise.

@LoanwordEggcorn 5 ай бұрын

2501 is very fast, he was probably moving around.

@wheel6243 5 ай бұрын

" I know one thing, Major. I drew down and fired straight at it. Capped off two hundred rounds in the minigun, full pack. Nothing... nothing on this earth could have lived. Not at that range." -Mac

@LoanwordEggcorn 5 ай бұрын

@@wheel6243 "Get to the choppa!"

@wynlord 5 ай бұрын

Modern attack subs can't fire that fast nor do they carry that many torpedoes. Ludicrous .

@GulNadar 5 ай бұрын

Time to nerf all ships? :D "Realism" and World of Warships... ok guy.

@Looney2ing 5 ай бұрын

Yups. DD mostly carried 1 load of torps maybe 2.

@shatteredstar2149 5 ай бұрын

Modern attack subs have 50km fiber optic torpedo that goes faster than any destroyer.

@BlackHearthguard 5 ай бұрын

Akula class has 8 tubes, Trafalgar and Astute 6, and Virginia class, 4.

@wildwillie5408 5 ай бұрын

@@shatteredstar2149then we need modern ASW to combat the 80 year old sub designs that somehow have modern capabilities. Similar to the way destroyers have smoke they can see out of but not be spotted. Ships of this era didn't have the ability to instantly share targeting data so what other ships spot shouldn't help the ships sitting in smoke spamming he

@mihaitha 5 ай бұрын

Akizuki proving at the end that he can think and breathe at the same time.

@fresshell3411 5 ай бұрын

Thrasher should flood and sink after one depth charge hit to be historicaly accurate

@Rythmdoc 5 ай бұрын

Isnt that the Thresher?

@fresshell3411 5 ай бұрын

I thought this is Thresher mb@@Rythmdoc

@GulNadar 5 ай бұрын

"Historically accurate" and World of Warships.... lmao

@bierfuerall 5 ай бұрын

yes and sonar does not detect Subs, square CVs have a low detectability

@richardwinstanley8219 5 ай бұрын

To be historically accurate, a single 4" shell should render a submarine useless.

@FirebladeX1989 5 ай бұрын

"fun and enganging"

@gstormcz 5 ай бұрын

Subtract 1/3 BXP and you get what normal ship would get for same performance.

@Radbug11 5 ай бұрын

Exactly. This is disgusting. Why it's even in the game?

@dzello 5 ай бұрын

@@Radbug11 Not every class as the same capacity to acquire experience for an equal performance so carriers who have an increased capacity to acquire experience for an equal performance get less experience and submarines who have a reduced capacity to acquire experience for an equal performance get more experience.

@Radbug11 5 ай бұрын

@@dzello And this exactly is straight bullshit. Here, the sub player didn't even need to sweat that much. Looks like good normal game. Menawhile, surface ships players, who almost break their fingers trying to switch between shooting, spoting, didn't get spotted, avoiding torps, fighting subs, caping zones, fighting planes, torping e.t.c gets a pack of potatos for their performance. As I said - BULLSHIT.

@dzello 5 ай бұрын

@@Radbug11 There's no bullshit. The averages of submarines are lower than other classes, so if they had a normal modifier, they would get tons less than other classes. With that modifier, submarines average 1600 experience and if you compare that to destroyers, it's actually on the lower end. They don't get more than other classes, it's a compensation for submarines naturally being worse at getting experience. It makes complete sense.

@Radbug11 5 ай бұрын

@@dzello so why in the clips I watched and in my games, subs ALWAYS had shit tons of exp for doing literally nothing? It's not about any average of submarines. it's artifical exp bonus so people want to play that shit class without the future in the game. Sociopath without their own life, who just want to make lifes of other people so miserable just like theirs.

@davesskillet9235 5 ай бұрын

I just love the constant aerial attacks forcing me to stay submerged even though I remain spotted no matter how deep I dive.

@jackslayer2640 5 ай бұрын

I had to rewind, but the Alabama was AFK the whole match, never moved from his spawn.

@davidhines7592 5 ай бұрын

might be the bug i ran into and reported. i loaded into the start battle screen but the start battle button never appeared, it didnt appear until literally 27 seconds before the team won the game... and i got warned i was afk when in fact the bugged client didnt let me enter the battle to control my ship

@Norbrookc 5 ай бұрын

@@davidhines7592 I got something similar twice last week. Both times my ISP disconnected me right at the beginning of the match, and when I reconnected I got the "unsportsmanlike conduct" penalty even though I reconnected before the match should have even been a minute in.

@mr.skully8787 5 ай бұрын

The subs era aint going away anytime soon

@tonepilot 5 ай бұрын

WG also gave the torps a 20% decreased turn radius. Sub love all around from WG.

@ZenoDovahkiin 5 ай бұрын

I think making the ping indicator more accuarate for somebody you're pinging would be fair, too. Maybe give a secondary indicator to a player when their ship is hit that is exact or at least less than 0.5km off. On the other hand, you want there to be as much of a benefit for mid to long range attacks as possible, to encourage that playstyle. If you overdo it and pressing sonar just kills you, you can't be surprised if subs commit to shotgunning. Make long range attacks low risk-low reward, mainly good for area denial and perhaps punishing mistakes on cruisers and BBs.

@richardcutts196 5 ай бұрын

I see Thrasher all too often. Also the top two tubes should not be reloadable, since there is no internal access to the torpedo tubes.

@patrickprafke4894 5 ай бұрын

My wife and I just started playing this a few weeks ago. And the only thing that annoys they heck out of us are torpedoes. From being shot from tier 4 BB's to being shot out of islands to being being sunk from somebody that's been sunk for 3 minutes. But out favorite!! Sinking s ship then is shoots them 2 seconds after it blows up. Extremely frustrating.

@TeensierPython 5 ай бұрын

DDs should be much scarier to subs. It’s so frustrating

@hond654 5 ай бұрын

Yes, 0.5km detection against subs

@quor2243 5 ай бұрын

They are. Typically a close encounter with a DD either results in both ships dead or just the sub dead, as DDs can dodge well placed torps, subs can't dodge well placed depth charges.

@carstenhansen5757 5 ай бұрын

@@quor2243Not if the sub has friends around, which they most often do.

@quor2243 5 ай бұрын

@@carstenhansen5757 As does the DD. I swear, the terrible efforts to vilify subs is amazing.

@carstenhansen5757 5 ай бұрын

@@quor2243 The sub can dive. DD's really can't do that. I swear, finding excuses for an over powered boat, pretending it's weaker or just as weak, is not going to work kiddo.

@robertcras8151 5 ай бұрын

A sub that doesn't even have to dive to spam torps, the fixes really worked this update. Good thing they made subs more maneuverable so they don't 'collide', making depth charges further out than 6km basically useless to any sub user that can press A and D......

@Frankon81 5 ай бұрын

TRASHer problem are - super slow underwater speed, she is elephant in the room when manouvering (before the buff) and torps are weak.

@smaug9617 5 ай бұрын

The sheer volume of torps makes it terrifying.

@dzello 5 ай бұрын

@@smaug9617 It's the weakest submarine, nothing makes it terrifying.

@jackaubrey8614 5 ай бұрын

@@dzello BS - nothing weak about that thing.

@dzello 5 ай бұрын

@@jackaubrey8614 Literally the worse tier 10 submarine in the game.

@MichaelMoellerTRLInc 5 ай бұрын

Every single thing wrong with subs in the game exposed completely in one replay.

@dr.lesliegriffiths5727 5 ай бұрын

Nice video. I do have a question. I was trying to add a permanent camouflage to my ships. However, the camo says the display is turned off. How do I turn it back on?

@neskire 5 ай бұрын

There is a setting in the lower right of the dock where you can turn on or off certain camos.

@tonepilot 5 ай бұрын

I haven’t been able to kill a sub since the change. And, I’ve been shotgunned like never before. Hate the class.

@javasrevenge7121 5 ай бұрын

WOW must update the subs with normal non acoustic torps.

@whycat23 5 ай бұрын

As a sub main id be fine with this change because it makes it more accurate and yeah

@OberstStein 5 ай бұрын

The whole sub gameplay and especially counter gameplay is so extremely anti-fun. No idea how they ever thought this would be a good addition to the game.

@pgale 5 ай бұрын

Yep your right HATE those things destroys the game so much advantage.

@mefw 5 ай бұрын

Just out of a Random battle , I went to capture enemy zone, nothing near as surface ship. I got pinged, approaching zone, I managed to dodge a few torps I was there for 10mins and not once did he surface. I sat battle cam face where the pings torps came from and other team mates had clear view of the Zone, sub then moved forward from his position into the Zone and it started to turn Red, it was capture by this nuke engine powered sub and game over he was under 10mins+ most games last about that - so basically never came up during the whole game.

@puckhead777 5 ай бұрын

I have to say those homing torps are utter BS.

@beardumaw24 5 ай бұрын

Subs have been so OP that they have ruined game play for slower ships. So Happy ships are getting sub surveillance!!!!

@thomaskurz5617 5 ай бұрын

The reload speed is absolutely disgusting. A Tier X Dd has around 2 minutes reload. The Base reload for the Thrasher is 40s seems he got it closer to 30s. This based with the ping and being nearly invisible is really bad game design. The problem with the sub is if it has its sight set on you, you really have to drop everything else you do and try to somehow get rid of it, while at the same time other ships shoot at you as you are spotted by the sub. IF a DD does a torpedo run at you, you know after dodging you have around 2 minutes to either break contact or close and hunt him down. See it this video, the first DD was lucky dodging the first salvo, and thought he was safe just to run into a follow up salvo.

@andreasa6136 5 ай бұрын

In randoms I have both subs and CVs in in 95% of the games (EU). So about 5% 'good games'. I seriously think this is a major issue for player retention.

@artic6015 5 ай бұрын

I use British submarine homing torps as regular torps and fire from periscope or surface. I get hits all the time.

@oranmcdougall2650 5 ай бұрын

I've been doing the same with the German subs with the same results 👍

@Crazyhorrse 5 ай бұрын

@@oranmcdougall2650 ever since i saw a replay last year i changed it all and play my subs on the surface and scope depth rarely ping at all the higher tier the match are and i dont get vaporized by asw anymore lol

@oranmcdougall2650 5 ай бұрын

@@Crazyhorrse Yep I use the same method lol, ASW is much easier to avoid playing that way. I do use the deeper modes to sneak under the enemy team battle lines or to escape when I'm detected or to float up an shotgun ships🙂

@frantiseksedivy5136 5 ай бұрын

You can still shoot torps unguided trying to hit the CV... CVs damage party is a pain making it very hard to hit with guided torps. Sometimes it is useful not to ping which does not give away your position that much.

@dragorocky2 5 ай бұрын

The only thing historically accurate is the hate for submarines. Sincerely, sub main.

@Sulfuron41 5 ай бұрын

I loved the British sub line, but was disenfranchised with Thrasher because she was such a slug. Her turn radius was massive, making her extremely difficult to maneuver enough to be effective in any way. Now, with the new changes, she seems a lot more viable. Makes me happy!

@tdbraun6837 5 ай бұрын

vomit ... ping ... vomit ... ping ...

@eric-wb7gj 5 ай бұрын

ty 🙏🙏

@mikesavage6420 5 ай бұрын

Wish someonexwould talk about battlepass becoming crappy

@daveberg751 5 ай бұрын

Next time you break out the G3, maybe plastic sub model targets. Just a thought.

@ashleyphotog 5 ай бұрын

if WG want CV's and sub in the game, they should have their own battle type, because they were never active participants in the kind of battle found in WOWS.

@markstott6689 5 ай бұрын

It might be British but that just makes it a "Filthy British Submarine."

@coster1963 5 ай бұрын

I've started Blacklisting every sub player in every match. I wonder if there's a limit? An easy fix would be eliminating the fantasy homing torpedoes. What about Hedgehoga for US/UK ships?

@chrishopp5998 5 ай бұрын

I feel like good halland and shima players would absolutely be game wrecking when playing subs.

@cnknguyen 5 ай бұрын

Subs pay so much better than surface boats considering you only really want 1 flag, and maybe consumable cooldown. Also nullifies the cancerous CV's.

@GulNadar 5 ай бұрын

Absolutely not true. Speed, consumables, flooding, and they just added more. Captian and flag choices make more of a difference when everything has to matter.

@cnknguyen 5 ай бұрын

@GulNadar you named off 3 flags, how many does it take to run a tier 10 BB or cruiser? Also since base xp is given based on percentage of damage dealt, dev striking DDs is child's play and shotgunning anything else pays huge. My avg game with no econ buffs is 600k.

@GulNadar 5 ай бұрын

@@cnknguyen fire negation, flooding negation, flooding chance, flooding chance two, speed, consumables, HP restore (not many), dive, and surveillance. That's 10 to stay competitive for the first 5 minutes. IF I wanted to just budget I could take away the flooding chances. The rest are nearly mandatory.

@theiranianputin2770 5 ай бұрын

That single shot kill..........smh never get that chance in my I-56

@gizzync1525 5 ай бұрын

If you have hydro running. it should work like underwarte radar.

@Radbug11 5 ай бұрын

Great battle. But would be even better without submarines.

@duncanmacraven4024 5 ай бұрын

Great Game!

@ifax1245 5 ай бұрын

Which patch is this from?

@sealordmountbatten 5 ай бұрын

13.1

@CJ_Welch 5 ай бұрын

Surprised

@DvdV1337 5 ай бұрын

When are flying boats coming?! With exocet missiles leggo.

@Cerberus0076 5 ай бұрын

All wg does is actually scare away surface ship players imoo. On lower Tier its not that much of a difference to deal with sub's. But..hands down,up tier grind is a pain in the ass, constantly being spotted and shotgunned by torps that totally seem to ignore laws of physics and follow you like a dog with peanut butter on your balls

@markwilson185 5 ай бұрын

World of Subs !

@Radbug11 5 ай бұрын

Limited amount of torps for every sub - NOW!

@jackaubrey8614 5 ай бұрын

just get rid oh homing torps and nerf the ridiculous reload...

@carstenhansen5757 5 ай бұрын

It's too easy to do good in subs. You often see them at the top for this very reason.

@1_2_die2 5 ай бұрын

Obviously that Alabama was AFK.

@kano4282 5 ай бұрын

I can't even queue into a random battle and get a win. So f it.

@guyincognito1560 5 ай бұрын

Hasn't WG noticed how subs have overimpacted the game in a way that made it "not fun" for most players yet? "Just dodge". WG

@raymondrysdyk8630 4 ай бұрын

Loved it MB sub battle for a change..

@samsmith2635 5 ай бұрын

The grind to the Thrasher is horrid that's why you dont see it that often.

@markwilson185 5 ай бұрын

One year gone from this game thank god still like your videos ! A Sub should never Be better then a DD . Mite as well Put the F$#%^& RED OCTOBER in game with a magneto-hydrodynamic drive" or simply an "ion engine. with Nukes .

@CocoDave37 5 ай бұрын

No big deal, 65k dmg. and 2 low HP kills. I guess the only thing is those torps have more cuves than Marilyn Monroe!

@mjw3877 5 ай бұрын

Thrasher has - for a submarine - a bad stealth

@armyman29340 5 ай бұрын

The American subs suck to play. I have no idea why the British line isn’t more popular. The Undine, Sturdy and Thrasher are all great to play.

@metalmarc9542 5 ай бұрын

Ignore all CV and sub players. Tuning out the now.

@sneakyfildy 5 ай бұрын

a shitshow

@alphax4785 5 ай бұрын

FXP'ed the US / KM lines for the snowflakes, ground the RN line in asymmetric battles where no one cared... glad to not have to touch them ever again.

@Volgan16666 5 ай бұрын

Im quitting games when there are subs. Game ends the same with me didging sub torps - nope!!

@Radbug11 5 ай бұрын

Same here. Playing since beta and I never been so pink like recently. 2 subs+CV? I am a low tier? Nope I'm out. Play with yourself. Every player should do the same, so mayby WG will use their brain for once.

@banditoo7 5 ай бұрын

@@Radbug11I bet you are not a beta player.

@Radbug11 5 ай бұрын

@@banditoo7 Why? You can always check it. One of my account has the same name as here.

@Radbug11 5 ай бұрын

It's not like I play regurally. I have a lot of hiatus. I had some 1 year and some 2 years breaks. Last time i stop just before that underwater shit was implemented to the game, and come back to the game in late November.

@j_taylor 5 ай бұрын

So you'll be a crappy player to protest the game mechanics? That's an easy blacklist, and a sinking winrate. Good luck.

@robertpanek5944 5 ай бұрын

The Thrasher can actually stay underwater for as long as 7:10 with the right build. I know, because I used to play it. Love that boat.

@robertcras8151 5 ай бұрын

LOL It turns tighter than a small speedboat. Yup, mega arcade. I hate subs. And they fixed shotgunning... ha ha ha ha ha

@MrXyemoe 5 ай бұрын

what a intense reply/game! love playing subs, so pretty underwater

@manofchaitea6904 5 ай бұрын

Hate what? a 65k damage game from a sub? People sucking at airstrikes. Everyones campaign isnt about balance, its about getting rid of something that hurts your feelings because you cant delete it instantly and make it absolutely useless from the start. There was nothing special about this game, nothing overpowered in any shape or form. This is just like snipers in the military, people want to cry and complain because of moral, take the ball and go home because you cant instantly kill something and have to put effort into it.

@variableknife4702 5 ай бұрын

Subs are a worthless 'add' to the game.

@shagsheep8832 5 ай бұрын

They probably did what I often do when I know a sub is near. Just ignore it and try to get some shots off on something I can actually see and hit, before I get sunk by the sub... which is going to happen regardless. No point fighting the inevitable.

@Foxtrot_UniformCharlieKilo 5 ай бұрын

70 kts torps = slow wtf

@bikeguy3034 2 ай бұрын

Sitting in Yamato trying to play World of WARSHIPS....lose entire HP pool to Essex CV torps and bombs while they hide at back of map. Engaging gameplay. Sitting in (any BB) trying to play World of WARSHIPS....while submerged Submarine chain-launches an unending line of torpedoes at you while you lumber around wondering why the anti-sub ships aren't doing their job and how you are supposed to play the game. Engaging gameplay. I have never seen a developer try so hard to destroy their own game.... incredible.

@1991ace1 5 ай бұрын

The homing has to go

@LooxJJ 5 ай бұрын

whenever i see sub or cv in game, I exit. I turn pink but i dont give a fuck

@naval76legends15 5 ай бұрын

In all honesty this game just isn’t fun like you want to come back to it kind of fun sad that WG doesn’t care about it’s player base😢😢😢😢

@j_Snow 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, wg is money hungry and dont care about the playerbase Its sad because the game concept is amazing like, a game where you can drive historical warships on on maps that replicates places where historical battles happened

@joca1378 5 ай бұрын

I've seen a guy saying "I was looking for a new submarine game, so I'm playing this game now.". Do you see the issue here? Most of these noobs are not into world of warships, they just want "a submarine game". They turn off chat and play their little submarine game.

@oldmangames9292 5 ай бұрын

I report every sub player in my matches. When I've used up my 10 reports for the day, I log. I dont play very much anymore.

@davel4101 5 ай бұрын

FILTH...

@unowno123 5 ай бұрын

1:25 german submarines have more dive time using their consumable and the british submarines are mainly unpopular because they are absolutely aweful, they are very slow, have a bad battery regeneration, a terrible DPS and only 6km range on their hydrophone, a terrible surface detection and a not impressive range. and with the hydrophone rework they have lost everything that made them useful, as their hydrophone used to ping more frequently. the deck is useless by the way the british also don't get better homing, thats only for the Alliance.

@theiranianputin2770 5 ай бұрын

They should have a separate RG without Subs and CVs, like a RG Classic Game Mode.

@GulNadar 5 ай бұрын

So you can go back to complaining about DDs like they did in classic? OK.

@theiranianputin2770 5 ай бұрын

@@GulNadar Who said anything about DDs.

@GulNadar 5 ай бұрын

@@theiranianputin2770 That's what everyone complained about in classic wows. Hundreds of videos complaining about DDs in classic era wows. So basically just cruisers and battleships? That's a parade around the edge of the map that includes target practice. DDs, CVs, and Subs, same whinging, different eras.

@theiranianputin2770 5 ай бұрын

@@GulNadar Calm down buttercup. BBs, CAs, CLs, and DDs is a Classic game for old timers like myself that have been playing for 5ish years. The hybrids are fine to be in Classic as well. It's not hard concept to get behind lmfao. People complain for no reason, including yourself.

@Darren4352 5 ай бұрын

MB that was some pure BS,😐

@MuckRatz 5 ай бұрын

so a sub gets all the hate, but a shima dumping 20 torps point blank is fine...

@donosprey8754 5 ай бұрын

The fact a sub is allowed to play is an atrocity and insult to everyone else's enjoyment of the game

@play030 5 ай бұрын

I wish they would make a World of Battleships for you cry babies.

@oldmangames9292 5 ай бұрын

World of WarSHIPS would be nice, and used to be a thing. Subs are boats, not ships.

@sgt.baksteen5291 5 ай бұрын

guess if u moan enough subs get nerfed.....what joke!

@marcom2248 5 ай бұрын

This is by far not an average sub game. He played well, the Chungmu was playing badly and the Shima wasnt any better. There was no cv and no real pressure on him. I love playing subs and it is really no more that easy as it was. With the next update it will be even harder...

@Radbug11 5 ай бұрын

Yes, sub was playing bad, Chungmu should have fly away from submarine and Shima should make herself immune for any damege 30 seconds (every DD captain perk).

@liuyloui 5 ай бұрын

Oh great, we get to watch this guy do some pve in a class that shouldn’t exist

@RodolfoDM 5 ай бұрын

Limit the torpedo count on all ships , problem fixed.

@GulNadar 5 ай бұрын

That would make CVs way more powerful than they are now. DDs would lose their mind. Would make Triptz viable again. lol

@RodolfoDM 5 ай бұрын

@@GulNadar Not really since CVs would have limited torps aswell as for DDs they have cannons too, it would make a more tactical use of torps instead of infinite barrages is not fun having to dodge 15 kitakazes torps on a 2 min cd or less.

@dutch0770 5 ай бұрын

Subs.... this is the way

@YogSothoth620 5 ай бұрын

whoever plays sub doesnt deserve to play this game anymore ... go and find a family that actually loves u PS: here goes my dislike just for posting a sub replay

@stevepritchett6563 5 ай бұрын

Me too

@Radbug11 5 ай бұрын

@shatteredstar2149 5 ай бұрын

Where on the doll did the sub touch you?

@obinator9065 5 ай бұрын

Thrasher more like trasher duh

@AlanSmith555 5 ай бұрын

Even? Really?

@andromeda9562 5 ай бұрын

that type of shotgunning needs to be removed asap stoping homing at 2 km thats atta bullshit i dont even know why you promote sub players

@ArterialCanine 5 ай бұрын

Not so much the subject but what it displays, submarines are bad design and bad for the game. Their submerged and surface feed is ridiculous. There spotting is worse than that of CV aircraft ( WG making changes to this), their ping marker is inaccurate to say the least. The impact they have is CV’s amongst other vessels simply leave the flank that a sub spawns on and they clump up. DD’s are likewise severely affected by the presence of subs and have no counter.

@GulNadar 5 ай бұрын

I will be ok with less mini-map information when submerged. Who's supposed to spot? Why do people keep spamming "Intelligence data"? Hint they want spotting. The ping marker is moderately close. People just expect "Ping = sub pointed my direction and driving like a BB" Risk management is good. Every class prays upon stragglers and lone wolfs. CVs have been around for how long and ships are finally clumping because of subs? DDs ARE the counter to subs. Those things that shoot from a ship's deck... work really good at ranges subs have to work. DDs are severely affected by the presence of anything. Heck Subs dropped DDs to 2nd on the kill order.

@ArterialCanine 5 ай бұрын

@@GulNadar accepted but then why is it a submerged sub gets full mini map info? History and technology was such that when submerged subs had no Comms. Only way to receive orders after WWII was via streaming a long VLF wire out back. This required periscope depth and restricted speed & manoeuvre while getting very low data rates. While the game has long diverged from historical facts there needs to be a balance which is just not there.

@GulNadar 5 ай бұрын

@@ArterialCanine Can't bring in history to the game. That would make the end-game tier 8. Also proper communication without audio comms in wows is nonexistent except for GG and trash. The problem is they would have to make the hydrophones, etc better. In a typical cap game I'd be fine with relying on historical sub stalking practices. That would give me 25km of spotting with good weather and a lack of islands with just a periscope.