World's Most "Localised" Surf Destinations...

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26 күн бұрын

Hey guys! In my years of surf travel, I've found some places to be friendlier than others when it comes to surfing and localism. While it's not fair to categorise an entire country as "localised" or hostile, in my experience, these destinations are some of the most localised. (Please don't let this video put you off visiting some of these places; at most spots, you'll be fine). Let me know of any experiences you've had!!
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@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

Let me know your craziest localism stories!! I'm super overwhelmed with the response to this video; thank you so much for all your comments and stories; I've loved reading them! Please understand if I can't get back to all of you).

@dennismccarthy7032 24 күн бұрын

Not on here Dan ❤

@michaeljarvis2709 24 күн бұрын

Tamarin Bay is by far the worst I have experienced/witnessed: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hN9-qZlq2d-8emg.html

@dacat867 24 күн бұрын

I saw this guy I didn’t know so I paddled up his inside

@user-gk1lo6ni1b 24 күн бұрын

1996 in the wave pool at Rhyl sun centre (north wales) i got dunked mercilessly by two obese spotty ginger girls

@karlheinzschulze5362 24 күн бұрын

Not very exciting but a friend of mine being punched in the face by a Sayulita Local (Mexico), after the guy burned him and they crashed because my friend kept riding the wave... We then moved to another spot with less people and the locals were way friendlier...

@Silversonicultra-mz2pw 22 күн бұрын

I’ve been surfing for over 30 years all over the world. My experience is that roughly half of surfers are really cool and the other half are complete assholes.

@DanHarmon123 22 күн бұрын

Yeah fair shout!! I'd say it's probably a small percentage really...

@wakeupthebear 21 күн бұрын

That's funny I live by the 50/50 rule on everything. It's like 50 percent of the breaks and 50 percent of the surfers. 50/50 It's a very strange culture of dicks and bros. All trying to enjoy the ocean.

@frankb1686 18 күн бұрын

90/10 assholes

@ItsWesSmithYo 13 күн бұрын

It just takes one 😎

@mistercarlberg 22 күн бұрын

I have a technique I recommend. 1) grin at everyone like youre mental. 2) paddle up to every local and tell them how great they are. 3) thank everyone whenever you catch a wave. And tell them how grateful you are for their kindness. 4) start conversations with people even when they flatout ignore you and pretend youre not there, and tell them how much youre enjoying the people and the vibe.... After a while od this they start to either THINK youre insane and let you just keep going so you dont kill, putrify and eat them. Or they get seduced by your kindness and realize that being kind back actually feels good. Next thing you know the local charger is yelling at you, "Go! Go! Go!" (So you do) "Yesssssssss Maaaaaaaaannnnn!" Trust me. It works.

@cathalsurfs 20 күн бұрын

Don't be british. Problem solved.

@bcronan43 20 күн бұрын

I had a local in Morocco get pissed at me for just being in the water near where he was lining up but I slapped a big grin on my face and said "just enjooooy", gave him some space and later on that day we were splitting the peak. Kill them with kindness!

@theyoungupstarts1243 20 күн бұрын

❤ Thank you for articulating my vibe!

@guscordeiro430 19 күн бұрын

Dude…that’s exactly what I do! Works everywhere, no shit!

@kimballhenriod9837 19 күн бұрын

🫶Mahalo bro

@surftrumpsa30designs31 23 күн бұрын

Reunion has had its fair share of problems from the real locals 🦈

@wellscampbell9858 24 күн бұрын

The southern Mexico scene is interesting--they kept a lid on things for many years but then Rip Curl came with the Search contest (2011?) and suddenly it was on the map. The locals banded together and created a system where you needed a local guide to surf some of the breaks there. You could get a "waiver" and go without a guide by, for example, donating an old laptop to a local school, or fulfill an equivalent community need. The guides would coordinate and arrange it so that none of the breaks were overrun and the visiting surfers were spread out well. They would also regulate the lineups in what appeared to be a fair and reasonable manner. You had to be behaving quite poorly to be asked to leave, but it would happen. I've done a bunch of traveling and would normally be opposed to having a guide, however many of the breaks are remote and would be very hard to find without prior knowledge, and it was very well run--the vibe in the lineup was always chill, the usual tension between individual surfers was largely absent, because everyone knew where they stood and the guides all knew each other. Not sure if it's still working, but I was impressed. I got tons of waves that trip too.

@DanHarmon123 23 күн бұрын

Hey mate!! Thanks for the story and I know all the points down in Salina Cruz are still "privatised" and you need a guide to surf them, but Barra is open to anyone these days. Although the locals definitely still get their waves!

@Akooks 23 күн бұрын

2006, hands down the best contest to ever taken place

@aerlial360 23 күн бұрын

Thx for explaining, especially since I'm planning a trip there next year at a surf resort with a guide. Makes sense. I've heard there are many points as good as Barra on the way south towards Salina Cruz. Do you find this to be true?

@KyleSpam-ob9ku 14 күн бұрын

Nothing like saying your waves need to be protected, and then whoring them out for a bit of money. The guide thing down there really seems like one of the more disgusting examples of prostituting out the sport.

@faofab2099 9 күн бұрын

Was Lucky enough to surf this area before the contest with nobody out. Went back two years ago, spots are over crowded, too many "surf guide" with 10 surfers each on each spots. No worth the money, to share the wave with 50 other guys!

@docrock5887 22 күн бұрын

I've surfed every spot he mentions here and never had a problem. Actually every time I paddle out anywhere, everyone goes straight to the beach and either starts filming me or they borrow some paper and start taking notes. It's awesome to be me.

@jackmcfarlane4250 16 күн бұрын

If you need an example of localism in Australia there's literally a break in south Sydney named "Ours"

@D33PFUTURE 24 күн бұрын

when i first went to sw france i paddled out at a kind of unknown hidden spot, tiny waves, some teenager pointed for me to go back to hossegor, i said i'd just driven 2000 miles and laughed. but i did get out and it did freak me out a bit. Then a few days later i was across the border in the spanish basque and was really wary cos of being told to get out in france. Then twice what happened once at very friendly sized roca puta, was the locals could see i was holding back and waved me over to the spot so i could catch some waves. Couldn't believe it, it warmed my heart

@DanHarmon123 23 күн бұрын

Epic!! So good to hear of stuff like that happening!

@jordanaycox1984 24 күн бұрын

Your book arrives in the mail today! Stoked for the read 🤙

@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

Yewww!! That's epic, really hope you enjoy it mate :)

@jefffinlay3477 23 күн бұрын

Always great info Dan 👍 love your vids 👍

@janhunter360 24 күн бұрын

Compared to snowboarders and skaters, surfers are really selfish and territorial. I can say that because I've done all three sports throughout life. Its learned behavior and really unnecessary. There could be plenty of waves for everyone but people like to hog the peak and try to pretend they're pros LOL! Excellent video, by the way. Love the drone shots and variety.

@ptadisbander7959 24 күн бұрын

It’s actually a really lame collective culture I find for a sport that is so Amazing and so naturally in touch with nature.

@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

I don't skate or snowboard, but that's an interesting comparison!! Definitely unnecessary! Thanks, stoked you enjoyed the video :)

@charliedillon1400 24 күн бұрын

I surfed and snowboarded a lot more than skated in my life, but I can definitely say that skaters are the chillest of the three groups. Surfers ruin surfing.

@monkeymansean2 23 күн бұрын

You can't really compare surfing to those other sports. Surf by its nature is a finite resource and so there's etiquette needed to share the resource that is largely adhered to. I think locals do deserve a certain amount of priority in their home spots, especially in countries which have already been colonised once and now have to deal with tourists coming and thinking they own the place. In my experience, if you're respectful, surfers are a cool bunch (notwithstanding a few complete fuckheads).

@jayd3931 22 күн бұрын

@@monkeymansean2 Snowboarding is the same. Limited terrain, finicky conditions, and more people than space. In some ways it's more competitive because people are paying up to $300 just to get up the mountain. But surfers are definitely more aggro and less tolerant.

@KnotchiGaming 24 күн бұрын

Asia in general has the best vibes IMO Japan, Bali, Taiwan, Sri Lanka etc

@donzioldbuddy 23 күн бұрын

Luanda Bay, CA was very localized when I would surf there in the early 80’s…Locals would rain down rocks from the 100’ bluff on surfers walking to the break and then vandalize their cars…classy group

@markstrickland6760 22 күн бұрын

The truth rich kids suck I know l grew up in west Torrance go West High Worriers class of 1973.😃

@greenwave145 21 күн бұрын

@@markstrickland6760 I was a warrior. Class of 98.

@muttonbuster 7 күн бұрын

The Bay Boys make for good narrative because hating the 1% is easy, but the truth is Pedro (TC's, Palms, etc) has always been and still is more localized than PV. In the 80s, the real scary ones that you just absolutely did not paddle out at unless you were invited were the Redondo Breakwall with the Carson Carvers and The Strand in Oxnard. Both of those like PV, had people start getting in trouble with the law. It just didn't get the same level of coverage because it didn't generate the same level of outrage.

@WilliamOrloff 5 күн бұрын

The Bay Boys got their ass busted about a year ago. Police came down on them suckers. I still wouldn’t surf there though if it’s good

@frothymilksmiles 24 күн бұрын

I live in Santa Cruz CA where every local at every break just waxes your board for you and lets you paddle right out to the bowl every time with no hassle! Ha ha...

@rzadigi 24 күн бұрын

years ago I was surfing pleasure point and this tiny little grom told me I was catching too many waves 😂😂

@wellscampbell9858 24 күн бұрын

Ah yes, wonderful Santa Cruz. I'm up at Ocean Beach but the free wax job has me heading down often. I remember a small summer Sunday at pleasure, saw a sullen bearded local walking down a, let's say, advanced beginner on the inside and eventually they had words and began to square up. Nothing out of the ordinary so far, but then this 10-11 year old kid comes in and starts yelling at the local, "Stop daddy, stop it!". Blech, that one was rough.

@barne3668 23 күн бұрын

yeah right lol.

@willyjones3720 23 күн бұрын

Surprised to hear that. Not my impression of SC. Espically at Steamer Lane. Love the area though.

@lawtonloraine4144 22 күн бұрын

You joke about it but when I started surfing in 1967 that’s how surfers were. Shame on all these bad attitude knob hea%s. So sick people.

@cloviskeable9943 23 күн бұрын

Seaside Oregon had a perfect world class left with the worst localism. Violence is common there...

@chrisfinnegan8370 22 күн бұрын

, Oregon has a lot of tiny mind syndrome I hear , , ,

@mattclark1278 22 күн бұрын

Ain't nothing perfect about that left - but it CAN get really good...

@bigislandoutdoorlife1489 22 күн бұрын

Yeah boyyy, the point! I got me lots of Indian beach too when I waz in high-school

@noflo8139 21 күн бұрын

Vibes are so good in Oregon water. Never been to seaside tho

@peteranelson 21 күн бұрын

naw....EVERYBODY needs to visit Seaside Oregon! lovely waves, shy locals, you'll have a blast. bring your friends!

@benclarke8861 24 күн бұрын

Tamarind bay - Mauritius! White shorts..

@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

Good shout! How’s the video of that local there 😂

@feanorwerm 24 күн бұрын

came looking for this place - #1 for localism

@wisu3529 23 күн бұрын

@@DanHarmon123 Mate, I surfed Tamarin in 1999. Scored it going off its tits. Turns out I miraculously befriended the White Shorts alphas. I had one name of a guy there who happened to be the top pro in Mauritius at the time. I met him and after that, I was in the mafia. I'm still friends with some of the locals there to this day. In fact, and I swear this is true, swear on my mother's life, I was out surfing one day with a local guy named Jean-Pierre (JP) and I was in position for a bomb. I called JP into the wave even though I could have had an epic ride. He paddled back with a huge smile and I asked him how it was. He was frothing. Then I told him I thought he was in a better spot, so I gave it to him. After that, we got talking and just had a great session trading off waves. Later on, when I went in, I was talking to the other locals and saying I surfed with JP. And they were like, "what? and he didn't break out your fins?" Haha! Bizarre, but somehow I had the trip of a lifetime in Mauritius!!

@lawtonloraine4144 22 күн бұрын

Yes great shout. They deserve a visit from some ghetto guys,

@Bigd0gg 19 күн бұрын

Thanks Dan great info!

@wilburh2m 23 күн бұрын

Thanks for taking a risk to present this. You're discussing a really dark side of surf culture that few people like to really elaborate on, that hard-core travellers like yourself see almost daily. I grew up in Honolulu and surfed in the 70's and found the crowds gnarly back then. I decided to quit surfing in '81 (lasted 10 years) due to the shitty urban vibe that took over even on the lamest days, and headed for Central America, where it's a similar vibe and I learned I was a part of the tourist crowd problem.Too much demand, limited supply, and high expectations for glory in the water. The pro circuits and media exploit these expectations and serve as a raw marketing tool for tourism in these areas. Putting waves on a pedestal with a 1000mm lens shooting a half-mile-away wave and social media feeding this to billions creates distortions in people's minds about what these locations are really like.

@HarveyBentley 24 күн бұрын

Great video man. Would love to see the most friendly places in your opinion.

@Dobertathon 24 күн бұрын

Any crappy beachie.

@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

Thanks mate!! Yeah, good video idea, I'll get to work!

@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

@@Dobertathon Hahaha!!

@littlellama8405 23 күн бұрын

Fiji bruv. No other place people cheer new commers into the wave. The only time there's any 'thats my wave vibe' is from foreigners. Only time I've seen someone get told to exit was when they dropped in on a grom (foreigner as well) in a barrel. Massive local just went and told the dude, "baratha, you can't do that man its dangerous, please go wait in the boat don't scare the kids." - that's it. Ha ha ha ha.

@JoshuaDunkelMusic 7 күн бұрын

New Zealand, especially in the more remote spots. Loved it. Also experienced really friendly vibes in the UK.

@MH_347 24 күн бұрын

I started surfing in the 80’ and began the surf travel thing in the 90’ to most of the spots you talk about in your videos. The world was a completely different place and surfing for the most part was still considered a fringe sport in most places. Never had any problems with localism even in Hawaii. The way we were raised in surfing and watched over by the older local crew at home was that of respect your elders and to play by the unwritten rules. It’s not that hard. Fast forward to today and I won’t go surfing if there’s too many people. And I’m still as fit as a fiddle. Most of the name breaks are overrun and a lot of people paddle out with a sense of entitlement. A lot of the new surfers haven’t grown up with surfing and will never get it. They aren’t happy to wait in line. Some waves you will have to wait 3 hours for a wave and that’s just the way it is, even if you are local. People expect to paddle out and take what they please. Need to change the mindset to appreciation that you get to go surfing rather than expecting. Appreciate the video.

@chrismast5626 17 күн бұрын

Spot on...surfing's been branded to the world with no connection to its history...everywhere I go I respect locals.but crowds are so bad now at many spots there's no self regulation...surfed with plenty of clueless surfers.they make surfing stressful and dangerous

@rangatrips 24 күн бұрын

My 2 cents. I went to arica and iquIque and took photos of the locals, gave them the footage and they invited me to parties and showed me 2 secret spots. Surfed Portugal Supertubos perfect 5 - 6 foot super crowded and no trouble at all. Same with Puerto Escondido, when it gets over 6 foot you pretty much can take any wave you want. I would only agree with Hawaii, that is a horrible experience surfing there.

@barracuda833 24 күн бұрын

People go to the most crowded places on earth cause instagram told them so, and complain they cannot just do what they want 😅 Just be respectful

@barne3668 23 күн бұрын

yup you did it the right way rangatrips. you HAVE to immerse yourself into the culture. I went to school near Supertubos and spending time with everyone on the beach and in the water was key. I went outta my way to get to know all the surfers....now I can cruise in any time any day and they all still know me...generations too since we used to spend summers there down from Norway...5 months of non stop surfing

@rangatrips 23 күн бұрын

@@barne3668 it's such an awesome town! Apparently before it was a surf town it was just hardcore fisherman living there. Must be wierd for those original locals to see how the town has transformed.

@flasponge 11 күн бұрын

So true!!! Excellant advice!

@davida5136 24 күн бұрын

You have a nice chill demeaner Dan, I live in Portugal and haven't experienced too much localism but I've mainly been surfing around Lisbon / Erriceira .

@DanHarmon123 23 күн бұрын

Thanks mate, yeah I think it's only at certain spots really!!

@Legoboygago 22 күн бұрын

@@DanHarmon123 Yeap!! We're sic of tourists.. it's what happens when it becomes massive and there's no respect what so ever!!

@scopes_music 19 күн бұрын

@@Legoboygago us in Australia are sick of tourists aswell, i don’t think Brazilians know the word “surf ettiqutte” and as Dan would say”no offense to Brazil, I’m sure there’s plenty of wonderful people” 😂 my step mum is Brazilian and I bet if she surfed she’d be the same 😂 nah but fr Aussies are some of the worst locals , I should know I’ve seen my family punch people in the face in the water all the time , not unusual for Gold Coast. But yeah , Portugal doesn’t get the kinda tourist crowds we get at the super bank so be happy with whatever you’ve got I’ve basically given up at my home break of snapper. No one knows how dangerous what they are doing is, I personally have been burned a billion times and even gotten into a fight as the person who got burned 😂😂😂 surfers are legit 50/50 psychos , or the coolest people you know

@coltynwyoung 11 күн бұрын

I’ve been living in Japan and the locals are SO nice. Inside of the water and out. It makes it an enjoyable experience when everyone humbles their ego…

@shaybowen2239 23 күн бұрын

surfing La Santa 4 guys out (early 90's), head and a half. The other three guys were all locals and 2 of them were super hot surfers. The other one was an Intermediate. I was sitting a bit wide letting the 2 hotties get their fill and snagging a few of their leftovers whilst chatting to the other friendly guy. Then a set came through the hotties had been on the earlier set so i was in plum position. As I paddled one of the surfers paddling out paddled straight in front of me and turned for the wave, by this time it was too late to pull out so I basically went over the falls on top of him. As you can guess lots of heated Spanish expletives, and pointing to the beach. As there was only him causing problems I stood my ground and carried on surfing !!!!! but then about 1/2 dozen of his mates got in so I got out, just to be safe

@gnomechonky 11 күн бұрын

One of the most welcoming vibes I ever got was at a fickle, semi-secret spot on the North Shore of Maui in the 90s. Clean bowling lefts, 4-6' Hawaiian, maybe 10-12 people out, even as a haole with minimal suntan and no friends there people were smiling, telling me "go, brah!" when a set came in. It was great.

@Witzomania 21 күн бұрын

Interesting, thanks for sharing that.

@lavapix 17 күн бұрын

Years ago fights were an everyday thing at my local break. I would get tons of waves while fights were going on. Good times.

@ETYSURF 22 күн бұрын

This was my favourite one of your Dan

@simontemplar1 21 күн бұрын

In the 70s when I was in my 20s I lived and surfed Tenerife (Canary islands) and I swear there was just myself and one local lad who surfed, and that was it. There were no other surfers, just local swimmers. It was paradise. Of course now every dickhead wants to surf.

@steveinglis3916 5 күн бұрын

Cnfital was extremely friendly in the seventies! not

@chsaebeerglass 22 күн бұрын

That morocco story is WILD!! The dude rubbing the neck of the girl you were with. omg. Also surprises me that they would be so unfriendly in the water, I def. didn't realize that was the case. Thanks for the video. Great content!

@Ethan-bu2zy 19 күн бұрын

That would’ve resulted in a pounding. Full-stop.

@MrBreakthompson Күн бұрын

They have a very bad mentality towards outsiders because they are locked on where they live. They can't go around the world to travel for surf, so they hate you and try to keep you away from the one thing they got.

@nsiebenmor 12 күн бұрын

This is why I prefer a nice hike in the mountains away from people vs surfing.

@kwambo1097 24 күн бұрын

Follow up video idea I’d love to see: what are the friendliest lineups you’ve surfed in your travels?

@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

Epic video idea, mate!! I'll get researching it!

@waterman7733 23 күн бұрын

@@DanHarmon123 If you make a video on the friendliest spots, you will participate in drawing crowds to them. Then those friendly locals will end up getting angry too / localism everywhere...

@user-ot3vd7ce3z 24 күн бұрын

Enjoying your book very much! -My first trip to Panama was in 06-straight to Bocas pumping surf for 3 weeks in early Feb with h my brother and friends -mostly paunch,inner dumps freight train left also Carnero island wow -sit wide big swell they will come right to you!Next trip try First beach and Wizards beach -all the best from Santa Cruz-Dave

@hipsonsogbo 24 күн бұрын

Very interesting, you have a lot of travel stories

@karlheinzschulze5362 24 күн бұрын

personally I have seen the worst localism in the places where the surf is the most consistent (Canaries, Mexico, Marocco) and some of the nicest locals in places where the surf is not consistent but good when it's on (Mediterranean). However there is good and bad everywhere to some extent...

@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

Yeah, that's such an interesting trend!! Never noticed that before... I wonder why!?

@GBLahLah 24 күн бұрын

Well said, I agree

@KRTRWZRD 24 күн бұрын

@@DanHarmon123 when the surf is not consistent and you get that one epic swell 3 times a year you're just the happiest person in the world and there is no room for localism or any hatred left in your brain.

@jbuzzao 20 күн бұрын

I agree, I m from Barcelona and even though the waves suck and are scarce, people is very friendly. It shocks me that, in places that have plenty of waves everyday, they have such bad localism

@D33PFUTURE 24 күн бұрын

so everywhere then! nice

@DanHarmon123 23 күн бұрын

Hahah, in a lot of places yeah ;)

@garywilson1688 22 күн бұрын

Lived in Hawaii (Oahu) for 9 years. Never had a problem. I did see some 'almost' fights though. Every time it was in 2-3 foot surf where a surfer from the mainland who just got off the plane would paddle straight out to the peak, catch a wave (calling everyone else off), turn around and paddle out straight to the peak again and catch the next wave (again screaming "I GOT IT!"). A big Hawaiian would paddle up to him after a few waves and say "Hey bra, shoots, give some wave for da other." The mainland surfer would ignore him and paddle right back out to the peak. It wouldn't be pretty. Then he would go home and tell everyone how 'localism' is out of control in Hawaii.

@MasterDoesMincraft 24 күн бұрын

Shocked Topanga wasn't mentioned went their once when it was pumping and 50 plus people for one right break... People yelling and cussing each other out. Luckily I recognized how the wave was changing with the tide (moving left) so I was able to catch a couple wide before everyone migrated over lol

@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

I had never heard of that place until today, but I just did some reading... It sounds so hectic out there! Is the wave even that good haha!?

@michaelfarar4232 24 күн бұрын

@@DanHarmon123Topanga is now surfed mostly by SF Valley kooks

@krishnaveganathar 24 күн бұрын

I’ve witnessed mental illness here…

@MasterDoesMincraft 23 күн бұрын

@@DanHarmon123 It was a decent wave for the area espeically with the swell direction compared to other spots but still just a disgusting amount of people

@mircokuhnemund483 22 күн бұрын

It's:"went there"

@flstudiopresents 23 күн бұрын

I was there at barra that day! Was about 3 years ago, miss everywhere in Oaxaca except barra 😂

@leozebiosthor6242 24 күн бұрын

I ve got a good one for you... The left hander at Atalaia, in Santa Catarina, Brazil is heavily localized... I lived in the area for a little over 10 years and never managed to surf... It s a well known localized spot, so usually no ones try to surf it, but if by chance you wanna have a go and park your car on the parking lot, by the time you get back your tires will be sliced... I once saw a former brazilian CT surfer go for a surf and by the time he came back his car was upside down... The wave breaks next to a pier, so some locals will stand in there throwing rocks and shouting to the crowd. Very bad vibe honestly. The wave itself is wicked and on a good day will run for 150-300m. Shame I never had a chance to surf it.

@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

Hey mate!! Wow, I've never heard of that one, sounds crazy, though, turning a car upside down!! Thanks for the story :))

@ThePantufabc 15 күн бұрын

So true, used to live my whole life close to Atalaia, you can only manage to surf there if you be come friends with a local and they invite you over for a surf. Had a mate that took him 2 years to get the “invitation”. Bloody ridiculous

@scottdsmith4476 22 күн бұрын

That’s why I like surfing at wave pools. Vibe is supportive and fun.

@ItsWesSmithYo 13 күн бұрын

I heard they shout you with nerf

@keno1069 12 күн бұрын

Wave pools are really fun. I want to go to the Surf Ranch someday

@leonardberverena1030 23 күн бұрын

Love this video 🫶👌🤙🤙🤙

@kenproctor6517 22 күн бұрын

yo dan ... best to avoid surfing at rocky point anymore after the detailed dis of the locals 🤣

@bismarckmark6566 18 күн бұрын

It only occurs in Australian smaller towns. And even then ive only ever seen it bad when a photographer turns up. In these places ive always found locals very happy to share some waves and it stands to reason that as a traveller you take no more than your fair share and take a moment sitting in the lineup to be friendly too.

@RhodeIsland-qn4fj 17 күн бұрын

Narrabeen, some other northern beaches and cronulla can be unfriendly. But I might’ve just had assholes surfing those days. Never had trouble at maroubra, but I was normally down the more chill southern end.

@brockman562 14 күн бұрын

Santa Cruz like spots like the Lane and Pleasure Point, and all the smaller unknown spots in between in the 80s-early 00s was super localized. Lunada Bay. Big Rock in La Jolla

@adlene5961 24 күн бұрын

I went to Australia for some waves and believe me, locals wasn’t my main fear if you got me !!! 🦈 With all due respects to the friendly aussies 🇦🇺

@g.barios5805 22 күн бұрын

Dude its funny because Ive spent 7 months in Australia (mostly snappers, dbah), 2 months in portugal (lisbon, ericeira), a couple of weeks in Canary Islands (north shore Fuerteventura, lobos, el hierro) and surfed Anchor Point in Morocco as well. I have almost no stories of agressive localism.

@dcards4632 22 күн бұрын

Because you A. Rip B. Always have the good bud or C. You are a Kook😂

@williamwalton583 17 күн бұрын

Get a fucking job

@jakebauer5865 24 күн бұрын

Great video Dan! Ive surfed the gold coast a few occasions and its a little weird out there. Ive had days like you mentioned with heaps of people out and fights happening, people dropping in and absolute chaos.(snapper rocks, dbah, etc) But then on the other end when we would surf in Byron Bay. the locals would literally be yelling at us wanting us to drop in on them and share the wave. every wave was a party wave there. XD. definitely all sorts of vibes at the different spots there.

@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

Thanks Jake! Yeah wow!! What a contrast in attitudes haha!!

@exxotixjeff2822 24 күн бұрын

The Gold Coast isn’t always crowded even at the best breaks, and the vibe is usually good at these times

@jaib695 24 күн бұрын

gold coast (snapper mainly) is a bit of a joke about how hard it is to get a wave, and when you do you probably get dropped in on but most other parts of australia is fine if you're surfing to the rules and having respect in the lineup. I'm from Byron area and i surf all up and down the coast, as well as localised lineups like Angourie and Iluka, if you're surfing with respect you shouldn't have an issue no matter where you're from...

@exxotixjeff2822 24 күн бұрын

@@jaib695The Pass , Brocken Head and Lennox aren’t exactly uncrowded, probably why you surf up and down the coast.

@timblizzard4226 23 күн бұрын

I think in general when you are a local (how ever you define that) in a reasonably well known place, you are used to seeing new people in the water. It's just normal. It's not like people will send you in at bells or snapper or the Sydney beaches just because they don't know you. Of course there are exceptions, but those are exceptions, not the rule. Generally speaking, in Australia people follow the rules.

@TheMRSort 24 күн бұрын

Hey Dan, nice video :) I was with the idea to go to Mexico, eheheh, now i'm not that confident anymore... That Parko thingy in Portugal, he asked for that to happen, totally his fault there, but yeah, not an easy lineup there in Super Tubos. Cheers from PT iuuuu

@DanHarmon123 23 күн бұрын

Thanks mate!! Too be honest, you'll be fine in Mexico, as long as your not burning or snaking, you'll be sweet at Barra and Puerto...

@K.C-2049 19 күн бұрын

meanwhile, in a tiny corner of Canada, there's a small collective of weirdos riding waves in the pouring rain in like 8C degree water who are too busy trying to survive the temps to be agro lol

@dojahman 23 күн бұрын

A good 10 years ago I went to check out the south tip of Fuerteventura with my girlfriend. There's a a pretty sick spot down there that doesn't break very often, and I know it's localised, but when we showed up it was just a knee high peeler, though very pretty and glassy, and there wasn't a soul in sight. So we decided to go for a romantic little couple-longboard session, great times. Suddenly a local guy showed up, paddled out on his shortboard and started to drop in on as many waves as he could, which he could barely surf because it was knee high. But just for the sake that noone could surf there and to stay true to his spot. It was super awkward, we just tried to ignore him. At some point I kind started joking with him, but he ignored me. I guess he did feel kind of stupid in the end, because it was just superweird. He did succeed in ruining a nice moment with my girl, and we never came back, so he wins I guess.

@moomountain 23 күн бұрын

There’s some some sad petty people around isn’t there. Poor guy what an existence, probably never been further than the end of his road.

@Luge_Lessons 23 күн бұрын

I don't know if this is a good or bad thing, but you didn't even scratch the surface of the absurdity of localism in Mexico 😂 Anyway - great video, keep it up.

@Jason124-zp9os 18 күн бұрын

Lived in more remote South Australia for 12 months surfed both peninsulas ,good reef waves, drove around for a year with QLD number plates, remote car parks , locals,Adelaide surfers , travelers, no problems at all?

@INFINITYREALM 19 күн бұрын

Thanks Dan, would love to see the list of the friendliest places to surf. I need that. I've been surfing Hawaii for over twenty years and the stuff I see in the water makes me lose faith in people. Selfish and petty.

@lockedout8643 22 күн бұрын

Anyone who thinks they have ownership rights to surf locations neither understands or has any love for the ocean.

@garvinc7267 20 күн бұрын

Grew up in Santa Cruz. I started surfing in the early 00’s and it was still pretty heated. 90’s were all out fist fight. I think 80’s even more so. Now you’ll get an earful if you fuck up but no one wants to go to jail. Had a few scary run ins as a grom and learned some important lessons on respect and knowing one’s place in the lineup, which helped me when I’ve traveled to other localized spots.

@j.carlat 20 күн бұрын

Thanks brah

@gudsession 24 күн бұрын

The worst place I've ever been was in Tenerife, I waited 20 minutes next to a surfers car that got ready to leave parking spot in front of a famous peak. After 20 minutes they started to leave and a local guy came and stole my parking space claiming that he is a local and he should get it before me and told me to respect the locals😳 .

@Whosetheworst 21 күн бұрын

I surf, skateboard and snowboard. I do more of the second two these days because there are too many selfish, entitled and aggressive surfers ruining it for everyone. The surf industry needs to show some leadership on this issue.

@iprey4surf 3 күн бұрын

Having grown up in Hawai'i, it's hilarious that people think they can just show up at a spot when it's firing and expect to score a bunch of waves from the locals who have put their time in and surfed that spot in all conditions. Especially when the normal lineup goes from 30 to 150. Show respect, and you might get some in return. When traveling, let 3 or 4 sets go by and I promise you, a local will see your patience and call you into a wave. Paying your dues and putting time in is a real thing.

@rebeladas9055 19 күн бұрын

As a portuguese, unfortunatly I can confirm that has horrible localism and lots of unforgiven vibes in the water, specially to foreign people. Definitely has one of the worst crowds

@kylepalmer1645 9 күн бұрын

Palos Verdes California, home of surfing and then calling the windshield replacement company lol, brutal locals, off to Ventura, really cool surfers...

@shawnweston4741 10 күн бұрын

I surfed Portugal and France years ago. No problems at all.Seemed very friendly and good fun waves.

@stevegoodwin5510 9 күн бұрын

Surf both in the last year... crowded but yes friendly... as long as you recognize your place in the lineup...

@exxotixjeff2822 24 күн бұрын

I’ve surfed every state in Australia for 50 years , and have never seen the blatant localism that you describe in some of these other countries. Crowds and frustration yes , but how do you define a local in some places anyway?

@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

Hi mate!! yeah, I guess it depends on where you surf, but Aus definitely isn't on the same scale as some other places!! And yeah, great point!!

@exxotixjeff2822 24 күн бұрын

There are places like Angourie where the locals can dominate ( because it’s so short?) but I find if you’re happy to sit down the line and catch smaller wider ones , they don’t usually notice you.Although I haven’t surfed every break , these days!

@a1b9c2 23 күн бұрын

@@exxotixjeff2822 Your advice pretty much goes for most other breaks around the world. I'm from South Aus so we have a lot of uncrowded waves to surf but when I'm on the Goldie I expect to sit way down the line, not get any sets, tuck into a few smaller ones here and there, surf more of the not so good days and times etc. Follow this advice and there generally won't be any problems for you.

@jacquelineTXRealtor 3 күн бұрын

Iam from Iquique ! Beautiful

@cliffordbarber5997 23 күн бұрын

The world class left point break in Seaside, Oregon.

@mitchelljohnson9548 11 күн бұрын

probably get your camera stomped there , if certain locals are out. lol

@Jacoozzi 19 күн бұрын

Re Portugal. Most of the localism is in Peniche area, especially Molhe Leste or Supertubos. Your story is very typical there, sometimes bodyboarders would even grab you by the back if you start paddling for a wave. If you drive down south, it's way more chill towards foreigners. I lived in Peniche for a while and i've seen it all - bricks in windshields, pierced tires, cars on fire, fist fights, etc.

@exxotixjeff2822 24 күн бұрын

When it’s good at say Super Bank or Noosa , the non locals would have to outnumber the locals by many. So surf rage is not necessarily localism but more greed and frustration.You can’t always tell whose a local anyway ,usually a good vibe when I surf there down the line a bit

@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

Yeah good point actually!! I never see much localism there as such, just as you said, greed and a ton of aggression, haha!

@exxotixjeff2822 24 күн бұрын

Yeah there’s definitely competition for waves, I don’t bother with Snapper or Boiling Pot , too much stress and energy required,down the line a bit can still be crowded when it’s firing , but less aggression usually.However if you dropped in on one of the stars or locals you might see localism.

@MAELOB 17 күн бұрын

Lived in Hawaii for 6 years, I found the crowd aggressive but in a weird friendly manner, like a silent passive aggressive positioning battle LOL obviously never paddled at pipe during a super solid swell, but rode north shore on small to medium days without any issue. My strategy was too just have a friendly vibe and just wait my turn.

@aaaaaaasdee 24 күн бұрын

Totally right about the localism here in Australia. All the famous circus-like points up north are just drop ins every wave and there are still a lot of lesser known spots (mostly along the southern coastline) where there's a decent chance that if they don't know you by name, you're getting your tires slashed or your head punched in. That said, in most places I'd say there's a 'healthy' level of localism where there's a pecking order and you'll be actively discouraged from being a gronk, but if you are respectful and wait your turn, you will get waves and not be hassled.

@matthillard9363 23 күн бұрын

I grew up with it and its necessary. Gold coast is a mess now without the law

@shannonwebb1333 4 күн бұрын

Sorry but that's total BS. There's no such thing as localism in Australia. It's impossible to tell who a local is because everyone travels and surfs everywhere.

@aaaaaaasdee 3 күн бұрын

@@shannonwebb1333 What does that even mean? So you're telling me that at my local reefbreak where I see the same people every time it breaks, it's impossible to tell who is a local, even though I know all of them by name?

@shannonwebb1333 3 күн бұрын

@aaaaaaasdee how close do you need to live to be a local? How often do you need to surf it? Who gets to decide? If I live 10m closer than you do I get to take all your waves? Of course not. The whole thing is silly. I bet just about everytime you surf there's someone new in the water. I won't believe it for a second if you suggest otherwise. I have lived and surfed in many tiny towns up and down the entire east cost. Sure I would recognize one or two but it doesn't mean they deserve special treatment. Furthermore, if anyone ever gives "non locals" a hard time they better be sure never to travel for surf.

@artlover1477 17 күн бұрын

Traveling to foreign surfing breaks requires COMMON SENSE & COURTESY. Always remember that you're a guest. Treats locals with respect.

@spojce9 11 күн бұрын

yeah but what are you going to do when these people are raging assholes. common sense and courtesy only go so far. anyway most of these places are third world dumps regardless, outside of their waves.

@anaklaut69 19 күн бұрын

A certain degree of localism is necessary to keep the order in the lineup otherwise every spot would be like Malibu.

@stevenbrennan9262 10 күн бұрын

Yes another who’s been surfing for 50 years + and travelling a lot for 30 years. I’ve seen some shitty stuff happen - G-Land comes to mind for eg. I’ve found the best approach is to be respectful, not put out a I’m a charger vibe or give the stink eye to anyone. When you paddle out - sit wide for a little while and watch the locals do their thing - and they will notice this, then make your way into the line up and you ‘will’ be allowed onto some waves. So far I’ve never been told to exit the water, but neither have I been to Hawaii or Mexico but am about to go to Chile - let’s see

@danielesc 24 күн бұрын

totally spot on. Chile has localism specially in the north like Iquique or Antofagasta but in the south generally speaking are very friendly unless you drop in

@juan_salvador_gaviota 24 күн бұрын

Really? I met some of the friendliest people out in the water in Iquique. My only bad experience was getting slammed into the reef 😂

@danielesc 24 күн бұрын

@@juan_salvador_gaviota oh maybe cuz I'm from center/south Chile, Viña del Mar and they always think we are from Santiago (capital). But yes, there are friendly surfers

@mikeroscoe1971 20 күн бұрын

Come to Sa south Africa south coast ,probably best waves in da world in kzn south coast stay at blue sky mining for time of your life over 150 km of points pull in ,good people empty lineups ,a few busy but surf free ...kandui bruuu

@donzioldbuddy 23 күн бұрын

Hollister Ranch, CA was bad in the early 80’s too. Went with a friend who owned property and pulled up at a spot with no one out and spitting. The off duty gateman paddles out (he owns no property but is entitled because he works the gate), starts screaming “no no no!” Every time I catch a wave and acting like an idiot. Only 3 guys out! A gate man there once buried a non locals car with a bulldozer while he was surfing!!!

@dedman9464 22 күн бұрын

For a time, a friend and I would walk into a decent spot before you get to Razors and surf alone. Wet sand walk etc., the guards would stalk us inevitably just to give two competent kids a dressy down. I think that last bit you referred to, the buried car, may have been Volkswagen, happened at Cojo.

@jk9300111 22 күн бұрын

I was fortunate to surf the Ranch back in the 70's and 80's. I never had an issue. They would vandalize the hoist on the pier all the time though. Caught Drakes and Little Drakes twice in 2 weeks. It went from 1 foot mush to 6 to 8 foot nonstop waves in about 1 hour. Amazing.

@Kaiiine 20 күн бұрын

I grew up in a lil town where we had some great breaks few guys sitting around enjoying the waves... you gotta understand. Locals chilling where they grew up then tourists turn up paddle out n try n take over break... respect where you are its simple as that... Cant blame locals for defending their breaks.

@williamwalton583 17 күн бұрын

Defending?

@keno1069 12 күн бұрын

I hope you expand your world someday.

@ralphdeshon9710 11 күн бұрын

When I was a kid, we held down our pitiful break on Captiva island.A little wooden breakwater, locals only dude, lol.

@shawnweston4741 10 күн бұрын

The other place that wasn't mentioned is Mauritius,Think they call them the white shorts gang,has anyone you know had experiences over there?

@Notascammer1776 12 күн бұрын

I had a choice between beach or mountains and chose mountain life because of people like this.

@wisu3529 24 күн бұрын

Damn good thing I’m fluent in Spanish. Has defused loads of situations over the years.

@matto1385 24 күн бұрын

Even being shit at spanish works too haha

@johnnyheidi2839 23 күн бұрын

I was about to comment on speaking some of the language helps heaps .

@wisu3529 23 күн бұрын

@@johnnyheidi2839 Yep, definitely make you less of a target.

@livedeliciously 24 күн бұрын

Queens in Waikiki can get very vocal considering it's right next to one of the beginner surf breaks. I've seen locals yell at people just for paddling for a wave with no one else around.

@Murfy02 23 күн бұрын

I used to be a local at one of the most localized places in Southern CA, so I know all about respect and surf etiquette. I just paddled out at 2 ft Queens and had a guy tell me to go in or he would kill me, Pathetic.

@livedeliciously 23 күн бұрын

@@Murfy02 Yup, that's the energy at Queens.

@malcolmlundie 24 күн бұрын

I’m from the Gold Coast, and in a strange way, the crowd almost regulates the localism… there are just so many people in the water, it’s hard for 1 person to be a total dick and get away with it… that’s unless you’re a world champ… they smoke everyone

@exxotixjeff2822 23 күн бұрын

That’s because the non locals outnumber the locals when it’s good,the locals can’t say much

@billprendgergast8976 18 күн бұрын

I have noticed Occy seems to make new friends with every wave....

@alfonsoembid-desmet3236 13 күн бұрын

I have the best vibes 10 years ago many times at Anchor point... I wonder if this more recent? Agree with a hassly culture out in land tho

@dug452007 9 күн бұрын

Fun story surfing Raglan New Zealand, .... It was a nice slightly over head mellow day, very fun waves and a friendly good vibe in the water. I was riding a longboard so didn't have any problem catching waves, no snaking or anything just enjoying the whole session when this guy paddles up to me and starts in with "Hey, stop being a wave hog!!" I was taken aback because I was just catching a few here and there, nothing too aggro. Then found out he wasn't a local, the guy was from New Jersey!!!! SMH, sheesh.

@GlenGGonsalves 17 күн бұрын

Believe it or not but Florida has localism too. I have seen guys raging over a 1 ft chop.🤣

@MorAcro 17 күн бұрын

Nice viral video bro, inproved your lighting too which was necessary 😅

@KRTRWZRD 24 күн бұрын

My experience from Morocco ist very different. Ive had locals calling me into waves there. And obviously peope what to sell you a lot of stuff all the time but they are just generally super friendly.

@DanHarmon123 23 күн бұрын

Epic, that's amazing to hear mate! I definitely need to go back there, as I guess it's unfair to categorise the place based just on a couple of bad experiences!!

@waterbowman5307 23 күн бұрын

Same

@user-wz2sj9ij8j 20 күн бұрын

I take out my false teeth..pop a fake blood balloon with the few remaining real teeth..start crying and laughing simultaneously all the while making grotesque grunting noises. . .i get all the waves I want..no problem.

@cielosurf 20 күн бұрын

Best comment 😂

@christophehuybrighs5537 19 күн бұрын

spent some time in Morroco and plenty of time in Portugal and actually never encountered this kind of behaviour. Yes at certain breaks it wasn't easy getting a wave due to conditions and overcrowding, but generally people were always nice, even though I like to sit deep and wait out for the larger sets to come in... nobody hassled me.

@RaulEdu33 24 күн бұрын

7:34 😅 I had the same experience two years ago when I lived in Ventura, California. There's a spot that was notorious back in the 80-90' for being heavily localized and aggressive punk rock subculture. It's not as bad anymore, but some of the old guys will still threaten anyone that starts recording with their phones when the waves are firing, and tell the guys with foam boards in the parking lot to F!off kooks! 😅

@willyjones3720 23 күн бұрын

Would you be speaking of Arcturus or Oxnard Shores?

@RaulEdu33 23 күн бұрын

@@willyjones3720 Indeed, The Nard or more precisely 'The Strand' 😅

@aitutaki50 24 күн бұрын

I've seen it from both sides, after many surf vacations to Hawai'i, & eventually moving there to the Big Island from New Jersey...many times I've been the only haole in the lineup, & we all still managed to get along just fine 🤙🏽

@CJ-bw2nm 23 күн бұрын

Jersey boys travel well, woooo!

@donzioldbuddy 23 күн бұрын

Until it gets crowded, then you’ll be asked to leave

@aitutaki50 23 күн бұрын

@donzioldbuddy the only time anyone has ever asked "to leave" was when I was 🏄‍♂️ just learning to surf back @ the Jersey Shore @ a jetty/shorebreak...a dude (who was actually a very good surfer from Florida, & who was visiting his cousins from NJ for the summer) paddled up to me & said, "Bro, I just watched you ride three waves straight-in. So, please just paddle up the beach ⛱️ a bit to where people are learning how to surf." As I started to paddle up the beach, my buddy was laughing hysterically at me & yelling out, "Dude--You just got Shoo-Bee'd!!" Of course, it was a little bit embarrassing for me. But, I took my medicine & paddled up the beach, & learned how to surf.

@808BizStuff 23 күн бұрын

Oahu vibe very different/ more difficult than Big Island....

@aitutaki50 23 күн бұрын

@808BizStuff I lived in Hawai'i for many years, & I've surfed all the Outer Islands (including Moloka'i, although I never visited Lana'i), plus O'ahu many times...my favorite spot on O'ahu, during maxed out North Shore conditions, is Makaha Beach

@surfernomad3158 5 күн бұрын

I used to live in Morocco in the 90's and the localism was horrendous, the irony was though it was the French surfers who were the worst ,not the Moroccans. I had a good friend who was born in Casablanca and we travelled and surfed together a lot, one day we went to Saffi ( essffi) which is now a surf camp and well known back in the early 90's it was French only and virtually unknown, we surfed it empty. My fried a local had his tires slashed for taking me their. I actually speak French and Arabic ( more Arabic than many of the local French guys) and I still got grief from the French even after 5 years. The lunacy of localism enforced by non native surfers never ceased to amaze me.

@JustinBleeder 11 күн бұрын

My approach has always been scan the beach for locals. Walk up to them tell them I'm not from there and ask if they mind if I paddle out. 7 times out of 10 I'll hear something akin to, "appreciate the respect bra" and oftentimes someone might even paddle out with me and either introduce me or make sure the locals know I was okay. And even if they don't want me paddling out I've avoided the hassle or beat down. Then just sit in the line up, get the vibe...I've even asked if it was okay for me to grab a wave. After that you're a local too.

@user-qj5yb3rc1g 20 күн бұрын

Oxnard ca high on that list back in the day better now but I surfed anyway!

@tilnilken1406 24 күн бұрын

Well it sounds like wherever there are great waves the locals are protective! Anywhere where this is not the case?

@DanHarmon123 23 күн бұрын

Yeah for sure! Hmmm, I'd say Bali and Sri Lanka, maybe Ireland have the mellowest locals I've come across, that said, they still get their waves on the good days...

@ItsWesSmithYo 13 күн бұрын

Yes, Not telling 😂🏄

@tyfenn 24 күн бұрын

you should try Topanga or Venice lol - can be pretty rough

@DanHarmon123 24 күн бұрын

Hahah! Where are those?

@dncrht 24 күн бұрын

@@DanHarmon123 California, around LA

@austinlamond7054 13 күн бұрын

Morocco is awesome if you are with a surf guide or group - the locals respect you as you surf with guys they’ve known their whole lives. They don’t like guys travelling in vans and cars who don’t pay for accomodation because they aren’t giving much to the community. That’s what I found speaking to some locals, but I got some all time waves down there, love that place

@libertyblack715 20 күн бұрын

😊Santa Cruz, CA. A fun memory of mine was taking a boogie board out for my first go at Santa Cruz, CA, under the cliffs. I had plenty enough experience surfing East Coast, Hawaii and Australia to know I was watching some famous hard-core local surfing. I also knew there wouldn't be any room for me. So, my strategy was to wait halfway down the wall until somebody wiped out. Then, I could pick up the leftover wave. It was amazing. Wave after wave, set after set. Good waves, 4-5 foot, light off-shore, and EVERY one of them taken and shredded all the way down the line. After a half hour or so of respectfully waiting, I started nudging up closer to dropping in, just hoping one of them would take pity and let me have the second half of just one. NOPE! Every one of them came barelling through AND managed to kick a spray of wake straight in my face while they were at it. I actually thought it was pretty funny. But, after another half hour of this, somehow I got out and went across the bay, where I got some bitchin body surfing in. They don't know what they missed. Judging from the 'wide eyes' and open mouths I got, that is.

@keno1069 12 күн бұрын

Bitchin

@marckindl1071 24 күн бұрын

So basically 75% of the premium locations in the world lol

@Whosetheworst 21 күн бұрын

Good luck finding an uncrowded world class wave these days.

@tomphillips3162 11 күн бұрын

@@Whosetheworst You can still get waves like that at Ocean Beach San Francisco but don’t go there if you aren’t experienced because you can really die there if not.