I can't imagine how fucked that timeline would be, launching a world war when all of Europe is already a war-torn wasteland.

The plan actually wanted to use the remnants of the Wehrmacht to bolster his forces. But at this point 90% of the Wehrmacht's experienced troops had been killed, captured, or put out of action, so I doubt the Allies would benefit much.

I'm pretty sure the ukrainians and belarussians wouldn't support the allies after getting nuked by them lol, it makes no sense. I know you said your scenario wasn't meant to be realistic but god, there's a step.

Benelux: *about to get invaded* Luxembourg: at least im safe because im staying neutral! The Western allies: *occupies Luxembourg just before the soviets reach Benelux* Luxembourg: *you little...*

world war 2: *ends* soviet union: *existing* The USA: Alright, One more time

I always wondered what would have been in Asia considering the Japanese Empire still didn't surrender until September 1945 and were fighting the western allies and Republic of China. Nevertheless, amazing video, possibly the best WW3 West vs USSR videomapping video I've ever seen.

Finland: "God, not this shit again."

you've been gone for a long time, and return with a spectacular well-defined alt history scenario. I liked to see there were two scenarios _to keep everyone happy_ and the frontlines/events were pretty realistic in my opinion. Great to have you back, and this was a great upheaval!

Everyone gangsta until victorious USSR decides to itself into "Eurasia".

Video was amazing and I really enjoyed it keep up the good work dude

Amazing video and so good quality for a 5000 subscriber mapper, good job !

Amazing video as always!

Absolutely Incredible Work!

When we needed the legend most, he returned.

I wanna point out some mistakes: Finland wouldn’t join since, it’s very unlikely they would, and I think the communists in France would as a result ride up, as well as in Greece etc. that’s all, and good video

Those who thinks that the UK should have launched the operation after ww2, does not know the true size of the soviet army after the war. Edit:It has been a whole month and people is still fighting in my reply

2 the ending is definitely impossible, 1) Stalin was informed about this operation and he accumulated almost 15 million soldiers at the borders of the eastern bloc

Ww3 in 1945=ww2 continued

I think an important thing to note is that if Operation Unthinkable was done, it would be wildly unpopular domestically in UK, a world war had just ended, and the last thing the British people would have wanted is to start another.

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The eastern Victory has a bigger chance of happening becouse by 1945 the soviet union had over 11 million troops on its borders and it had its industry in full swing

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great video as always!

Eastern Victory iirc is how 1984 happned: USSR conquers Europe, British Empire and USA fuse and are taken over by INGSOC. Middle East and North Africa decolonised and become 'the Free World'.

few corrections i'd make; - Operation unthinkable was to be executed when the second world war was still undone, so all the allied powers that took part in it wouldve still participated (saying this because I saw countries like Belgium, Luxembourg, Greece and Denmark being neutral) - the two Germanies shouldve been shown as occupation zones, the German governments hadnt been installed yet, same goes for Iraq and Iran, which were still under british and (for the case of Iran only) soviet military occupations. Not sure about that but even Italy could have been shown as an occupied territory, but I guess they had a government that was fighting for the allies so ill give it a pass (even tho italy started off as neutral fsr) - greece was already undergoing its civil war, basically it could have been part of this wider west versus east war scenario - spain in no way wouldve joined the western allies, most realistically they wouldve stayed neutral, same for portugal (though unlike spain, i can understand a portugal entry) - countries like bulgaria and hungary were still under soviet occupation at the time, their governments had surrendered - really not sure how the ussr won - or even survived for that matter- after having three nuclear bombs dropped at its largest cities, perhaps that should have been avoided in this althist

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The Allies: *well that was a miscalculation*

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Definitely a Soviet victory if nukes were not used. Largest land army, a huge air force, battle hardened soldiers. American and British troops would be confused why they are fighting against their former ally so there could be revolts and strife in the allied armies, meanwhile the Soviets see it as an act of betrayal and would be more motivated.

Автор мог бы учесть , что во Франции и Италии после ВМВ победили коммунисты , лишь план маршалла исключил их из правительства. А если бы союзники напали на Союз , половина избирателей молча бы на это смотрели ? Это как минимум всеобщие забастовки а как максимум гражданские войны

wasnt the soviet army like 3 times the size of the allied army at the time? i dont think that would go very well for mr churchill

Suggestions for next videos: what if Central Powers won WW1(not kaiserreich just your version of it) and more about the fronts of what if axis won ww2

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This is one of the best mapping ever! For sure!

Great video!

Pretty sure the entire reason Operation Unthinkable was not done is because the Americans knew the Soviets would win

You should have showed how many losses each side had. Great video!

Great vid!

I like how you included an Eastern and Western Victory.

In the western victory scenario there are a few errors, Ukraine wouldnt have Crimea, it only gained it in the 50s. The polish border would probably be reverted back to the one we had in 1939, because East Prussia only became Polish due to Soviet forced migrations of Germans Ukraine would probably not have Transcarpathia either, or western odessa, which was Romanian back then.

Luxembourg was the largest contributor in this war fr

The name of the city was Kiev btw, Kyiv is the modern Ukrainian name

Western allies lost because Luxembourg didn't join them

there seems to be one song that isn't in the description....

Why does the author consider wartime measures by the USSR (which did absolutely all the warring countries) as war crimes, but not the atomic bombing of cities?

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Great scenario! I was wondering where were you, and i realised how much did this took you time!

It's interesting that your showing major retreats and I love it.

You are the My 2nd favorite KZfaqr! 1st is Zvallid.

do a scenario of ww1/2 or 21st century if napoleon won the Napoleonic wars

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Yo we want tutorial. how did you do that animation and what program did you use ? i really like it.

YES YOU'RE FINALLY BACK good video btw

What's the name of the song that plays from <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="48">0:48</a> to <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="204">3:24</a>?

Allies has air and naval power but Soviet has land power

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"Soldier, I know we fought for six years and lost countless lives including your best friend but were about to invade the Russians"

Im not sure if allied planes can go as far to moscow, the more realistic one is leningrad

Video Idea: what if steiner attack happened?

Good job!

What was the song used in the Soviet victory? It sounds like the song "Sacred war" from Hearts of Iron 4.

Nice scenario bro, but what is the name of the music at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="48">0:48</a>?

Of course the ad I get after the Soviet victory is an ad for Adventure Communist..

Nice intros. Can you tell us how you do them?

Those Battlefield 1 ending game sound was really me feel comfortable

Imagine just finishing a world war then one year later ww3 starts☠️💀

One major aspect of this that can't be overlooked is organized labor among the Western Allies. Continuing the war against a country they had been told were allies for years, especially when the continent had already been ravaged since 1939, would have been a hard sell to the voters at home. And considering the Communist presence in Western labor movements at the time, these governments likely would have been met with outright hostility at home. Materiel problems would be likely for the Western Allies, and the Soviet Bloc would be able to wreak havoc with spies and infiltrators. Massive strikes and protests would be a certainty. Acts of sabotage and terrorism would be likely. We can't even necessarily rule out a country like France flipping to a revolt. As a result of this, many of the Allies would probably end up taking draconian measures on the home front, severely suppressing freedom of speech and association. The result of Unthinkable would have been ruin, chaos, and mass death. We should count our entire SPECIES lucky it didn't happen.

i like 2 scenarios idea, but have no idea why Finland got land?

how programs are u use?

I’m pretty sure the soviets and its allies would win against the combined strength of the western allies itself, The soviets could at least bolster a massive force before the US could even pull its troops from the pacific.

I don't think that Finland would ever get St. Petersburg even in such scenario

what is the music name for the soviet scenario?

What’s the first song you used for the Soviet victory?

no matter what, france never fails to get invaded by going around their defenses

The first scenario is literally 1984 at the beginning with only difference that in 1945 the Soviets did not posses the capability to strike back against western Allies nukes.

Great Video!! A question, how do you make the text of the events?

Yay he uploaded

3th Alternative scenario would have been, that the war would have ended in a stalemate, for example, the frontline would have been, that the part once beeing part of the German Empire(2th Reich), to the eastern front of today Czech Republic, Hungary and Croatia. Both Sides would have made a peace treaty (name example: Treaty of Zagreb) and we would have just like in our timeline a cold war between the USA and the Soviet Union(USSR). The frontline in the Caucasus region didn't really change so it will remain just like before the war. Maybe NATO and the Warsaw Pact would exist in this scenario in a bit of a different form. Also there could have been war, with the Republic of China, Japan and the occupied South Korean territory and they would have also made a fight against Communist China and against the Soviet union, which would also have had ended in a stalemate, by Manchuria and Communist China beeing captured and defeated and the frontline just a few kilometers before Vladivostok.

Swiss: Why's everybody fighting?

Wait- In this scenario when operation unthinkable occurs, would it be a continuation of WW2? Or a start of a WW3?

hey where did you get the map?

*Japan: What's happening? Did i miss something?*

Tbh in Soviet era nizhny novgorod was a gorky in old name and it changed to nizhny novgorod once Russia federation is formed

whats the first song in the eastern victory scenario

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="48">0:48</a> music name? Edit: I found it, if you not the name is sacred war 😉

I still think the soviet victory would be more realistic cause of the number advantage and the soviets drive to wage a war to survive

The agreement of splitting up europe wasnt even made by then. It was simply May 8th 1945 borders with the remaining german territory being divided into 2. The red army was, in my opinion, the strongest in 1945. At least land-wise. The USA, though, had a stronger air force and navy. Though a navy wouldn’t really matter as the USSR’s coastline is 99% frozen. They wiped out japan, conquering all of manchuria within two weeks and pushed down Korea, taking down almost a million japanese. Had this happened, im pretty sure the soviets would have some sort of victory as a stalemate even if they didnt get anything since they were the one defending. I mean, the west was already fighting the Japanese. And, the soviet union would not attack japan had the west attacked. The west would be fighting with two powerful countries. Also, many western soldiers were friends with the soviets so i think they will not fight the soviets or have low morale, as they would protest about having a third world war. They were already sick and tired of WW2. They would have been so relieved that the germans surrendered and the japanese were going to be defeated soon, but, when they hear that THEIR LEADERS ATTACKED the soviet union, they would be filled with rage, considering THEY were the aggressors. Many people in the UK and America, who had a good image of the USSR after the USA and USSR were great allies, would also be outraged and protest. Ultimately, i see this war ending in a stalemate with the soviet union securing eastern europe, and the west still being in france, after suing for peace. But, im pretty sure the soviet union will never help the west by attacking japan in this timeline, so they would maybe have to actually land in japanese mainland.

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<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="248">4:08</a> Then NATO unified into 1 Nation, and after a civil war with INGSOC it became Oceania, while the Warsaw pact became Eurasia The beginning of 1984

Russia got nuked 3 times and still managed to win, respecc

I don’t think it would be considered WW3, just WW2 season 3

Amazing the best video ever made with flipaclip even Better than ALG for sure

Moscow nuked I will never appear in the world💀

I think the first scenario is more realistic (no, it's not because I'm Russian, it's just that the Soviets had more army, morale and experience)

I uploaded a new map video about Operation Downfall, an allied invasion of Japan. I do not paste a link, as KZfaq probably consider my post as a spam.

I mean. The soviets had 6,410,000 men on the western front in April 1945. Allies had about 2 million less. I don't think those are good odds for any offensive to go far.

Operation unthinkable would be gone wrong for the allies, in 1945 Soviet Union had 10 million trained soldiers in Europe. The Europe would ve been taken. But not us not uk

This is probably Lead to the 1984 novel