You know you've screwed up when freaking Ghost Rider just looks at the Hulk and says "Screw this, I'm outta here. These guys had it coming."

“Bruce Banner is just as pissed as the Hulk, and you aren’t going to be able to talk him down.” Maybe the scariest Hulk idea I’ve ever heard.

I have to imagine Dr. Doom saw Hulk show up and kick Reed Richards' ass, then summarily started cheering and planning to award Hulk the Latverian equivalent to the Medal of Valor.

When Namor is the voice of reason you know you've gone too far.

Tony: Everything I’ll ever do...I do to protect this world. Which is why I forcefully imprisoned several of my superhero friends and sent psychopathic killers after the heroes who just didn’t agree with what I wanted.

"Puny humans, Ive come to smash" Oh my....

The old saying held true. "It doesn't matter what side you're on. We're all screwed when the Hulk gets back."

To this day I remember a friend and I were buying the Planet Hulk comics and thought: - "You know what maybe this is an ending for the Hulk story until there's a big crisis and planet Earth receives back up from Sakaar" So when the story ended I was almost crying and she threw an Ironman figure across the room because all we wanted was a good ending for our fav hero the green guy... also we made a pizza party while reading WWH and enjoying Tony getting smashed.

19:24 that... is a terrifying thought. If Bruce is as pissed, that means there’s absolutely nothing stopping hulk’s vengeance.

"I've come to smash." Dude, at least take me to dinner first!

You really know something is wrong with your heroes, when the green monster that has brought and alien armada to invade and destroy New York, motivated only by vengeance... is the one on the right side of the argument.

I know it's a tie in but a mention about Xavier in this story is actually pretty warranted. Hulk actually goes to the mansion and demands to know how Xavier would have voted if he was present. Xavier said he would have done it but only until they found a cure and OWNS UP TO IT before surrendering to the Hulk. The XMen try to stop it and get curb stomped. The only reason Xavier isn't in MSG is because Hulk finds out about M-Day and claims that the X-men have suffered enough, that Xavier is in his own hell based on his own mistakes. Looks like someone at Marvel actually GOT THE MEMO

Who ever came up with the title "World War Hulk" deserves a raise, because that title is AWESOME! And Blind Guardian still gives me goose bumps

Fun thing that he didn't cover. A tie-in issue has Hulk fight Ghost Rider. Strange is keeping an eye on the battle, and describes the Rider as one of the few beings that could take the Hulk. Or, more accurately, the source of the Rider's power. Johnny Blaze is knocked out, and we see this power, as Zarathos, the true Spirit of Vengeance, awakens and takes control of his body. Zarathos and Hulk stare at each other for a moment...and then the true Ghost Rider gets on his bike, and rides away. The demon Zarathos has a rule: he acts to punish the guilty, but he will not harm the innocent, even through inaction. AND THE ILLUMINATI ARE FAR FROM INNOCENT. It says something when the DEMON thinks you f*cked up and leaves you to your karma. As for no consequences, I'd argue that the blow to the public faith that Tony and Reed suffered was compounded by the Secret Invasion, and it opened the door to them getting ousted from their SHIELD-funded positions and the people choosing someone else to be the top cop. A pity that someone was Norman Osborn, aka the GREEN F*CKING GOBLIN!

I think that Namor by this point is chilling out on his throne with popcorn watching the Hulk beating the crap out of the other heroes on T.V

Namor is probably like “I really dodged a bullet there”

*Thor:* Hulk, no! Just for once in your life, don't smash! *Hulk:* But big monster!

I think the Subtitle for World war hulk should have been what Linkara said at 19:25 "Bruce Banner is Just as Pissed as the Hulk, and you aren't going to be able to talk him down!"

"Dormamu, I've come to smash!"

Why couldn't the Hulk challenge our heroes to a basketball game instead? "Come on and Bash, And welcome to the Smash!"

Lost it at "Uh, Strange? Hulk come to bargain!"

The quick cut to Popo going "He's gonna die." had me laughing *far* harder than I should have. Also, I really do have to wonder how Hulk and his Warbound would have responded if *any* of those four had simply said - "I'm sorry." No excuses, no deflections, no rationalizations - just a quiet admission of guilt and remorse. And this makes "Hulk: The End" even *sadder* as the Hulk tells off Banner for wanting to be with his "friends" in death, as those "friends" were nothing but hateful towards the Hulk himself.

"Strange... Hulk come to bargain" was comedy gold, even though it was out of character for the hulk at the time.

Not to mention Hulk teaming up with the banner persona for brains, AND smarts, God help us all.

What's everybody's favorite version of Hulk? My personal favorite is the Earth's Mightiest Heroes version. Also, when friggin Namor is the one who is saying "Hey guys I think we're going a bit too far" maybe take a step back and reevaluate your plan

Was it really so hard for someone to have Richards say: *"I am truly sorry for what happened Hulk. That Bomb was only meant as a last resort, if it truly triggered as you said, then the blood of countless lives now stain our hands. But this rampage will only stain yours as well."*

2 Things to say: 1) The animated Planet Hulk movie rocks 2) Gotta love that the guy who has consistently failed to defeat the Hulk is the one who goes in when Iron Man, Doc Samson, Dr. Strange, the Fantastic 4 (PS, where's The Thing?), and a load of other super powered individuals have failed to stop him. Dude's got balls. They're gonna be kicked so hard they come out his mouth...but still, he's got em.

World-Breaker Hulk with the Infinity Gauntlet? Pants to be browned.

How sad is it that it's usually the bad event comics that do horrible damage to notable characters (Tony and Carol being biggest current examples) that are the ones with the longest lasting consequences but the good ones that can potentially fix character problems get barely addressed outside of a few books?

I only read the Ghost Rider tie in to this, and they make Dr. Strange come off as worse. Johny Blaze goes to talk down the Hulk, fight ensueues, The Rider takes control and... leaves. Strange says "Ghost Rider only avenges the innocent, which were're not"... so Dr Strange KNOWS it's his and the others' fault, but STILL won't take responisbility.

I read planet hulk years ago. One the greatest hulk stories ever made.

Hulk: you....... YOU KILLED HER!!!!!!!! tony:.......im sorry *gets smashed through a bunch of buildings* (just like in age of ultron)

"We came here for justice!" And together, we can BE justice!

After all the crap in Civil War, this series feels like an apology.

KRAKKABA-THROOM?? Crack a Bathroom?? Did anyone else hear that?!!?

"Hey man. I'm Korg, this is Miek, and we're going to wage war on your planet."

21:30 another good response is would have been. Hulk: You rip off Hulk catchphrase!? Hulk smash! Dr. Strange: Oh hell...

"Puny humans... I've come to smash." I can imagine Deadpool in the crowd just yelling: "Banner! Phrasing!"

god, Hulk deserved a much happier ending than this. hell I don't want him to STOP being the hulk, btu I would have loved to see the wife dynamic to all of this, hulk as a father, etc.

What a coincidence! "Puny humans, I've come to smash" was also briefly my Tinder bio.

When namor is the smart one out of the illumanti then you know you messed up big time ;)

He protecc, he attacc, but most importantly he talk smack about bad comics.

I like how everyone knows that the Hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets and all their ideas to try and stop him is to infuriate him even more instead of, you know, trying to calm him down.

Skaar and Banner's father son road trip is honestly such a good read

It says a lot when you managed to make both Bruce AND The Hulk equally fucking pissed.

Holy crap, movie Korg and Meek are so different.

"I'VE COME TO SMASH....Final Destination, no items, no Meta Knight" "Oh great, so he's one of THOSE players. As if this day couldn't get any more miserable." Great stuff. And yes, it is frustrating how good events never seem to have any impact on things while bad events had ramifications for years.

I loved Planet Hulk until the very end. It was a needlessly tragic ending and a waste of potential. I wanted Hulk to build a galactic empire and explore new possibilities, but they kept the status quo.

Dude, Hulk vs. Godzilla. I'd watch that movie.

Mr. Fantastic seems one step away from having the Superboy Prime voice.

"Anyway, in-universe the Hulk went on a rampage that destroyed Los Angeles . . ." Heeeeeeey yooooooooo!

If I ever saw the Hulk coming at me yelling “YOU KILLED HER!” I’d GTFO there and put as many miles, planets, and universes between me and him as humanly possible. On an unrelated note... uh, Tony... (In Angry Joe voice) You done fucked it up! That goes for the rest of the Illuminati that isn’t Namor.

As good as this story is, it reminds me of why I dislike Marvel so much in this era. Sure it may be fun for some to see characters like Tony get the shit kicked out of them, but for me it is not remotely satisfying. You can have characters do dickish things and border on villains all you want, but I wont really like seeing them pay for it, if them doing those things in the first place was out of character, or their reactions are out of character. Now I buy some of Tony's actions in Civil War and here, but as an Iron Man fan, i don't buy how he went about a lot of them. That's why I am so conflicted on there not being lasting consequences, sure I would like to see these characters pay in the context of the universe, but I know they did not make those dickheaded decisions; their writers did for the sake of drama and edginess. Seeing Tony get beaten up cause Millar could not write him properly is not fun for me, it just reminds me of why I prefer DC. Like the final crisis Batman example, Bruce's role in Ted's death made sense within the character, did not feel like it was done out of nowhere, he was not an irredeemable jerk about it, and he saw his mistake. Not only does Marvel rarely make their character pay long term for their mistakes these days, even when they do make them pay it feels off cause often those mistakes feel artificial or the characters react like assholes over it. Which does not make me hate them, but rather hate the writers. If you wanna have Tony make some massive mistakes and pay for it, that's great; but then have him actually pay for it in character and make an effort to change, and importantly make sure that said mistakes are not character assassination. Like the Brother Eye example, Batman making it was wrong, but he admitted fault, and even when he did so, you can still understand why he made the mistake in the first place. He does not become a straw man in order to tell the story is my point.

Even if it's a loose adaptation, I'd love to see this become an AVENGERS movie. Maybe bring in the Leader, so there's some closure from THE INCREDIBLE HULK (2008).

The joke you made about the Hulk, being rocketed into space; and watching bad movies and riffing on them, gave me the mental image of him taking up five chairs; watching Space Mutiny. Hulk: David Ryder not that big! David Ryder puny human!

"I've come to smash." *Hulk joins the battle!*

Also, in regards to She-Hulk and the remark she made of bringing the Illuminati to justice, was there any attempt made by her in filing a legal case against them? Seeing that Jenifer Walters was a lawyer, that would have made an interesting story for her.

I loved this storyline. To an extent with my most favorite moment being that fight between Ghost Rider and Hulk and yes I know it happens in a tie-in issue. But this fight results in Johnny actually giving full control to Zarathos which only happens rarely and even though technically Zarathos wins him and Johnny leave cause they realize their duty is to punish guilty and not harm the innocent even through inaction with realizing that most of the Illuminati are not innocent and leaves them to what they deserve meaning it's saying something when a demon realizes you're in the wrong. This combined with the Secret Invasion results in Tony and Reed getting kicked out of SHIELD and SHIELD being replaced by HAMMER which is led by Norman Osborne aka the Green Goblin which ultimately does more harm then good especially when Norman orders the assault on New Asgard and Aries the mythical Greek God of War actually calls out Norman on how this is a bad idea which results in Norman ordering a Void-possessed Sentry to murder him. And how does Hercules' half-brother die at the hands of the Void by having the Void rip him in half with his bare hands with no effort.

19:25. "Bruce Banner is just as pissed as the Hulk, and you aren't going to be able to talk him down!" That legit sent shivers down my spine when I first heard it, as it honestly makes so much sense and I totally believe it!

Here's the fundamental problem with the entire WWH scenario: It requires the four heroes who Hulk blames for his wife's death (not to mention the collapse of his entire kingdom) to actually fight the Hulk. The original heroes Stan Lee created would have gone along quietly, preventing the risk of any people being killed or property getting destroyed, while making their claims about not planting a bomb in the Hulk's shuttle look WAY more convincing. But then, of course, we wouldn't get any boom-boom pow-pow action. It's a case of character sacrificed for the sake of spectacle.

6:30 So why don't you take minute, just sit right thar. Hulk tell you how he became king of Sakaar.

The writer who replaced heroism in the Marvel universe with moral relativism is Brian Michael Bendis. He's the architect of the current "Modern Age of No-Heroes." He just signed an exclusive contract with DC, and has been put on Superman. Pray for Big Blue.

When Bruce Banner is JUST AS pissed off as the Hulk,you REALLY fucked up!! I'm sad that Planet Hulk hasn't been adapted into the MCU yet

YES!!!!!!! We know each other! He’s a friend from work!

Hulk never killed anyone, it's explained by Amadeus Cho in canon. It is the single fact that made me stop reading Marvel. If Hulk's violent rampages never have any consequences but property damage, then WTF is the big deal?

The thing with the Hulk somehow not killing any civilians isn't a matter of realism to me; it's one of consequence. It's saying that with all the times the Hulk has lost control, the damage was always just to property or injuries people could recover from? No. That is stupid. I called out Man of Steel for this and the Hulk as a character is no different.

Reed...bothers me. More so than any other character I've ever encountered in fiction, Reed comes off as an awful, terrible hero, be it in his treatment of the FF, Hulk or any other Marvel character...and yet, he's also done so many truly wonderful things over the decades that I can't truly hate or even dislike him. Oh, and on another note, I'm not surprised that Final Crisis was chosen here, but I kinda wish that it was saved for the thirtieth anniversery, as a nod to the really early storyline stuff. Oh well, I'm sure the review will be awesome anyway.

The ship's guidance system was set to another planet. It was the hulk raging out that caused it to go through the wormhole and land on Sakar. While they do share much blame for what happend, I never felt it was as much as the hulk tried to heap onto them.

Hi Linkara I just wanted to say thank for years of amazing entertainment, that is both meaningful, knowledgeable, funny and damn entertaining all at once again thank you and keep up the good work, you rock! Oh and thank you for introducing me to Blind Graudian via your intro last episode their band is amazing their my new favorite symphonic rock band, and the song you chose Sacred Worlds definitely fits the theme of event comics, heck if you made a music video of Infinity War with that song it would fit the film perfectly that song is truly epic and downright timeless, thank you Linkara.

I hate how Thor Ragnorok turned Hulk’s story into a background piece for Thor’s story and made it the comic relief of the movie.

Says a lot about Namor when he's the one that voted against the idea to shoot Banner into space.

Two things that Linkara left out that I would have liked to see. When the Hulk gets super pissed at the end, he takes a step and shakes the entire eastern seaboard. And there is a tie in issue where the Hulk goes to the X mansion and beats down all of the x-men. Even knocking out Wolverine in one punch.

24:24-25:38. Oh, that felt SO GOOD to hear. THANK YOU, LEWIS!!! As someone who is a Marvel fan and dislikes this supposed "era", it's nice to see someone call it out online. Couldn't have agreed with you more. 29:05-31:05. Again, nice job with the critique. Everything you just said in this video might as well have come from me. I was truly let down as a kid to learn what these "heroes" had done, and it took a long time for me to read more modern Marvel books as a result.

24:06-25:39 *Hulk:* Remember this, puny humans. We came here for *justice,* not murder. *Hulk:* So no one on your planet has *died* by our hands. And no one *will.* *Hulk:* But we'll make sure no one on earth will ever forget what you are. *Hulk:* Liars. *Hulk:* Traitors. *Hulk:* And killers. *Reed Richards:* For the last time Bruce. We didn't-- *MST3K Hosts:* SHUT UP! *Linkara:* Like, seriously, Reed, for the smartest man alive, you really are dumb. What the hell could you possibly have to say that you think would convince him to do things otherwise? *Linkara (v/o):* It doesn't matter if you intended on it or not, it happened! Crying out "you didn't mean to" is irrelevant. You did it-and you keep doing it! That's what's so frustrating about this era of the Marvel Universe: the Hulk is absolutely right! These supposed heroes are liars, traitors, and killers-and yet we're still supposed to root for them and agree with them! It was said in a tie-in issue that the reason why they didn't just ask Banner if it'd be okay to send him off to another planet while they worked on a cure was because he might say "no" and thus, they'd never be able to trick him into doing this. They knew it was wrong to do this without his consent, they knew it was wrong to lie to him and trick him. And even if you could forgive that, their action still resulted in the deaths of millions of people, regardless of the revelations we're about to see! *Linkara:* So, Reed, shove your excuses and your "We didn't mean to!" right up your oh-so stretchable asshole!

"Strange smash" Hulk file copyright lawsuit.

one of the things with lack of fallout is that Secret Invasion happened like less than a year later so it was A: the Marvel equivilant of a 24 hour news cycle moved on quick B: there was other shit to deal with and C: the blame for Civil War and World War Hulk got passed on to the Skrulls despite them never being the instigators of either events (just encouraging and profiting from them)

I can agree with blaming the Illuminati for tricking the hulk and launching him into space, but I can't agree with saying they share the blame for the deaths caused by the shuttle explosion. The explosion was not a unintentional accident; it was a very direct and intentional act committed by a third party. Blaming the Illuminati for the explosion would be like blaming the manufacture when someone runs someone over with their car; the illuminati had no role in causing the explosion, not even accidentally...

What is with Marvel making its heroes complete assholes in order to sell comics? Both Civil wars and now this have made them unlikable in how they act (especially Tony). Why not just make the culprits hulk villians like the brain, abomination, and Modok? That way you could have a satisfying revenge story without ruining your heroes

I'm not trying to say the Hulk isn't responsible for his rampages. I firmly believe that justice is a case of "when you make a mess, you clean it up/you make it right". For example: you damage someone else's stuff, you pay or it. You kill a person, you pay your debt to society in jail (and after, but that's a different conversation/fight). And if your actions lead to a planet dying, you take full responsibility for your war crimes, whatever action that may be. It may have been Meek's rebels or whoever who set off he warp core, but it doesn't change the fact that the warp core would NEVER have been there if they hadn't sent Hulk there. Keeping Hulk on earth may have resulted in more "rampages" as they seem to be the only way most writer have to justify "popular hero versus the Hulk" fights, but Hulk hasn't and likely wouldn't have killed millions. No matter how you slice it, Marvels Illuminati are in the wrong and need to clean up their mess, instead of hiding behind their excuses. They made a mess, they make it right. On the other hand I do have to give Marvels writers a tiny bit of credit. People who are rich/famous/in a position of power getting away with their crimes is a much more realistic outcome.

The two thing that have limited Hulk's power: His anger was usually for petty reasons, anger that fades reasonably swiftly after the initial trigger and doesn't continuously build up Bruce existing inside of him, holding him back to whatever extent he's currently able to During World War Hulk? Hulk's wife, unborn son and kingdom just died right in front of him and Bruce is encouraging Hulk every step of the way by feeding him his own anger too An anger that can never fade and only ever grow, combined with the one thing that restrained him now vehemently on his side... The Hulk we see here is probably the most powerful incarnation that could possibly exist and that is TERRIFYING Given how in a much more passive state Hulk threw a literal mountain, I feel his title of Worldbreaker may be quite literal during this event

I knew he would do a joke about the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air! And the jokes that follow are classic Linkara

Watching this episode a few days after re-watching "15 things wrong with Civil War" feels extremely satisfying.

“Who should be in my secret organization? I know, only the least moral superheroes in the Marvel Universe!”

1:48 That's just what the lizard people want you to think. DEADPOOL IS SECRETLY IN CHARGE OF US ALL!

+Linkara-AtopTheFourthWall OMG YESS. YESSS. YESSSSSSS. YOU'VE MADE MY DAY. THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR. YOU HAVE DONE US JUSTICE THIS DAY. THANK YOU LINKARA. I LOVE YOU

Some of the best tie-ins I've ever read came out of this book. An especially gratifying one was Hulk fighting Ghost Rider, another hero with a theoretically bottomless well of power he can draw on...but it ends in a stalemate after Ghost Rider determines that Hulk isn't guilty or a threat to anyone innocent, as the Illuminati are anything BUT.

Would've been better without the 'twist' and if the shuttle had actually accidentally just exploded. But I guess they had to make Strange, Reed, Stark, and other guy look better.

so next week linkara will meet his past self (wonders if any one remembers that gag from way back when)

"Puny humans, I've come to smash" Raiden: I don't Think so.

*KRAKABATHROOM!*

I’m basically on the Hulk’s side and felt that these heroes and the government deserves what’s coming to them. Not just what happened at Sakaar, but what the government did that caused the Super Hero Civil War and those who sided with the Pro Hero Registration Act. A Thor Robot killed Goliath, just for fighting for the freedom of super heroes. Captain America was shot and killed just for fighting against the Pro Hero Registration Act. Black Bolt and his Inhumans just raided New York City and killed a lot of innocent people just because the Inhumans felt they can do whatever they want. And yet the people of this world fully supported these acts. They treated those who sided against the Pro Hero Registration Act as criminals. This whole Hero Registration Act started because the government failed to look into the actual cause of the destruction of Stamford, and instead, used the super heroes as a scapegoat. Hulk might be turning back to his old “Smash” habits, but he’s at the point where he can tell right from wrong and knew who was clearly in the wrong here.

I know you met it as joke, but I could actually see The Hulk coming to Earth with half the universe as an army with the infinity gauntlet. But then again I think you were half jokingly said that. This is a great episode.

So Hulk blames the illuminati for sending him to a planet where his rage inspires an alien sidekick so much that the sidekick believes the anger is his only true side; therefore not stopping the secret construction of a bomb intended to kill the Hulk, because the Hulk made peace on said alien planet. I'm not sure I agree with Hulks/Banners reasoning here as much as you are, Linkara. Inspiring your alien sidekick to the point where he's ready to blow up a city to stop world peace is kind of on you.

19:26 is why I love World War Hulk. Banner is just as angry as Hulk is. He’s lost everything and been betrayed by those he called friends. He’s beyond pissed and has every right to be. Even if the Illuminati didn’t kill his wife, they’re the reason she’s dead.

I remember spoony pointing out how the city was repaired in about a month. despite how it would take generations in order to fix everything. Reset button

Hulk: You.......YOU KILLED HER!!!! Iron man: Oh hell Mr. Popo : he's gona die. Goku: probably. Me: 😂

One of my favorite tie ins into this comic is when the guy who was the current Ghost Rider went after the Hulk and kept trying to force Ghost Rider to come out to fight the Hulk, but when Ghost Rider finally came out all he did was just look at the Hulk then got on his bike a rode away. It wasn't because he was scared of the Hulk it was because the Hulk was justified in his vengeance and Ghost Rider wasn't going to interfere. Those few panels of Ghost Rider looking at the Hulk spoke so much that I truly lost my sh*t after that.

I wonder what linkara thinks of Immortal Hulk, which had a reporter named McGee dress down the hulk, saying and I quote "yeah, you were shot into space. Instead of just shot."? Hulk WRECKED LAS VEGAS, an entire city in ruins, and the avengers send him to a paradise planet. He clashes with the military, and he gets statues and parades. The comic straight up says that Bruce's rage is INDULGED, whereas McGee points out that as a black woman in a white male dominated work field, if she raises her voice a little too high, becomes a little too "difficult", she loses her job and her future in the industry. It was one of the most "...huh, holy shit" moments I've ever read in a comic because as a white man myself I had never thought of it that way. The Hulk really should be counting his lucky stars that Tony and company went so far out of their way for him. I mean, they're still dicks since Doctor Strange could have just TELEPORTED Hulk to the planet they wanted to send him to and they never explain why he didn't, but still.

24:27 that speech explains so well why I hated this era of the marvel universe, these heroes we loved and cared about were turned into liars, traitors, and killers, and we're supposed to root for them? No, mother of God, NO!! They need to pay for their crimes, learn from all this to become better heroes and try to make up for their sins so that they can regain the trust they've lost so mean spiritedly!

One of my favourite moments is the X-men crossover, where Scott basically throws all sorts of X-men at Hulk in order to stop him in fun combinations (Siryn+Dazzler, etc.) and after the first fails he's like "Okay, time for Plan 2." "Don't you mean Plan B?" "That would imply I only have 26 plans."