Are we just going to overlook that the LeafWings have loads of advanced tactical equipment from their home turf? They have paralysis blow darts, painstaking bullet ants, sleep gas flowers, energy renewal herbs, and probably loads of other natural gadgets they got during their time in the poison jungle. And Sundew demonstrated all these uses in her handy satchel like a professional. Plus the LeafWings have shown that they know how to go all out with their resources. They only needed a tiny bit of flamesilk to burn down an entire hive because they knew where to put their flammable materials to get the whole thing set ablaze. Not to mention they infiltrated the hives several times while everyone else still thought they were extinct. That takes some incredible planning and maneuvering.

2 points! 1) SeaWings can see in the dark, so a nighttime offense against non-fire breathing dragons (eg RainWings) would likely be devastating if they don’t somehow see it coming. 2) SkyWings are masters in aerial combat - so if we are talking about battling in high wind speed mountain tops, ambushing another army from their home kingdom or chasing a retreating battalion (since they are the fastest fliers by far as well as having a ranged weapon that isn’t affected by gravity, like frost breath is) they would have a very dominant upper hand.

Icewings need to be higher. You forgot about the whip-thin tails, and the ridged claws that make it hurt a lot more than other tribes. They might not be as good as rain wings, but they are definitely in the top tier. Especially since if they decided to retreat, they would never die because of the gift of sustenance

You know how you said that the RainWings could take over if they wanted to? In Darkstalker, the SeaWings were actually meeting with the SkyWings because of how concerned they were with the RainWing's rapidly expanding territory. The RainWings were a lot more aggressive 'back in my day'.

Another thing, if they went to war in present time, (after book 14), then the rain wings would be in the same tribe as night wings. That’s a huge, huge advantage.

The thing is, in a war Silkwings would probably be the biggest threat to the Rainwings. They could easily detect them when camouflaged due to their antennae, and I imagine they would probably utilize their silk as a tripwire-like alarm system. So it’s interesting how they’re placed the furthest apart from one another

The Rainwings would especially win if they're actually working alongside Nightwings as one tribe in a war like this. Both could be quite intelligent in making plans, and both are great at sneaking around and assassinating important leaders or warriors of other tribes. They'd be an unstoppable force

I just looked at the map for Pyhria and realized that Seawings have direct routes to the Skywing Palace through the Diamond Spray Delta, a river that goes through the Mudwing Kingdom and ends right at the rainforest kingdom. That would allow them to at least secure one kingdom with little to no effort before other tribes caught on and dammed their rivers. Icewings also have a similar river that would bring them right to the Sandwing palace. So that kind of changes my view on Seawing viability in WW WOF.

Totally agree with you. Aside from them not wanting ti hurt/kill things, the RainWings could definitely win with their power.

I see skywings as being masters of aerial combat. The skies belong to them, their fire is also the hottest out of all the tribes. I think they'd give Icewings a good run for their money.

Okok but referring to Rainwing venom as 'magic death spit' caught me off guard but mixing humor with a lot of logic and information always keeps me entertained. That evil laugh too! Still makes me think we haven't gotten rid of Teal though... Also, I have an argument. (I'm sorry, but this is going to be a lot) The Rainwings are passive and lazy, as he said. (Probably) the main reason they're passive and lazy is because of the bounty the rain forest provides for them. Unlike the Leafwings, their environment is kind to them. They do half the work other dragons, such as Sandwings and Skywings, do to even survive with their terrain. Since they shouldn't be in any state of losing the rain forest, they would still maintain their chill but oblivious nature. And since the other tribes have learned how to survive, they are more adapted to life-threatening situations. Even though the Rainwings could easily camouflage to avoid being spotted by other tribes, the other tribes could find other ways to find them. And since the Rainwings don't have a battling mindset, their venom would only prove wasted unless they can somehow find a way to get into a survival instinct. Even if they could, the Hivewings have already dealt with this situation and will probably think of burning down the forest, which is easy enough with the 3 (4?) fire-possessing tribes. With their home and natural habitat gone and no experience of any sort of lethal situations, they probably will die of thirst or hunger, or one of the tribes will get them first. Who do I think wins then? idk man. My mind's blank after that paragraph of information.

I think the skywings should be a spot higher as they are probably one of, (if not the most) phyrrhia’s most dangerous tribe, and that the rainwings might be a spot or two lower IF they haven’t changed their way of doing life.

I think that both the SilkWings and the LeafWings should be higher due to what they could accomplish if they allies. Hear me out. As others have mentioned, the Silkwings can set up tripwires. The point that I would like to add to this is that they could set up a tripwire, that when activated, dropped a dragonflame cactus (or whatever the bomb one is)(grown by leafspeak) onto a piece of flamesilk, which would blow up the dragon they set it up on. In addition, they could use regular silk as a fuse, and throw dragonflame cacti like grenades.

I think you may have brushed off the Silkwings about to fast for two reasons, 1: their silk abilities can imobilise a dragon within seconds and can cause a pretty untimely death if a dragons silked while flying 2: while flamesilks are rare they are basically ranged firescales dragons with the ability to burn dragons from a distance and cause loads of damage since the silk would burn for ages and you wouldn't be able to remove it unless you took a swim But overall this was a very interesting video to watch and I loved seeing your different oppinions on the different tribes!

Alright so two things. 1. This is a really awesome video. Detailing the strength of each tribe and why they were placed where they are is amazing. I just wish you told us more about the thinking that went into the decisions 2. “You” made a weird remark about power, does this possibly mean Teal ain’t gone? Cause if so, I’m ready for that extremely edgy dark-version-of-self-versus-main-character battle lol.

I do think that if the RainWings and LeafWings were to have a battle between them (no other tribes involved) then I think the LeafWings would win against the RainWings. They could turn the Rainforest against the RainWings with their Leafspeak, and the RainWings would be completely unprepared for the Poison Jungle- but in open combat- perhaps not. The HiveWings would also have a very strong chance against the RainWings, as it has been shown (via the flamesilk lanterns) that they have discovered and invented glass. They could easily invent venom resistant armour (like the NightWings) and could win against the RainWings. Interesting video though!

Edit: Ok, uh I totally forget the second rule you established at the beginning of the video while writing this 🥲 Some of my points probably don't hold up as well because of this rule, but I still think they can be somewhat applied. Honestly, I think SkyWings would be able to overpower the RainWings easily. Sure, RainWings may have powers such as venom and camouflage, but most modern-day RainWings have never used these powers for combat... Meanwhile, SkyWings are adept fighters and probably have one of the most effective, organized militaries in Wings of Fire. I don't think the RainWings even _have_ a standing military right now 😅 HiveWings and IceWings would also probably be stronger contenders, I believe. Both of these tribes are very organized and have much more war experience as well (the HiveWings even won their war). Plus, they have abilities that rival RainWing venom; HiveWings have their own venom and IceWings have devastating frostbreath. Plus, as you mentioned, the IceWings could retreat back to their kingdom without the threat of an invasion looming over their heads. RainWings were a very isolated tribe until recently, too. They do not seem to have caught up with the advancements the other tribes have made and likely do not have the resources the other tribes have gained through involved activities such as trading. Additionally, RainWing venom can only corrode organic material. This means that their venom would be virtually useless against an armored opponent. The core belief of passivism many RainWings embrace would also hinder their performance in war. Most RainWings can't bring themselves to hunt prey and could never imagine using their venom as a weapon. If RainWings remained as menacing and prominent as they were suggested to be in Darkstalker's era, I think they'd put up a much better fight. Right now, though, unless Glory can whip them into shape PRONTO, I seriously doubt they would last long in a world war.

Just some counter arguments: you didn't consider stratigic placement for some of the tribes (mudwings, rainwings nightwings, silkwings, hivewings, leafwings) the list would be quite different. The mudwings would be lower as they are sandwiched between 3 major competitors. Sandwings and skywing front lines would be spread thin due to their massive borders, allowing icewings to be dominant in the North. Rainwings are up there but half of the other tribes have dragons to counter them. (albeit somewhat rare) Icewings and skywing militaries are easily the most advanced, giving a sizeable edge. Icewings and seawings can also return to their home to regroup if things get tough. The rainforest which the rainwings and nightwings live in gets burnt by even 1 firescale so there goes 2 tribes. The pantalan dragons are quite low as they didn't evolve and adapt to resist temperature to any major degree so almost every pyrrian tribe hard counters them. I feel as though you ranked via dragon physiology by itself which is valid for a battle royale but in war strategic placement is very much more important. My list would be: icewings>Sandwings>nightwings>skywings>rainwing>seawings>hivewing>mudwing>leafwing>silkwing>scavengers

My money would be on either Icewings due to their defensible position and frost breath, Nightwings due to their technological advancements and clairvoyance, or Rainwings for their plethora of abilities. I’d say Hivewings also stand a chance for a similar reason. Seeing as the Rainwings and Nightwings are currently one tribe, WWWOF would be an absolute curb stomp, with only Seawings and Icewings possibly surviving. Although, the Icewings can hold their breath for hours at a time, so they might be able to take out the Seawings.

Though it probably would not change the tier of any tribes, silkwings could be a counter to rainwings: in “Flames of Hope,” Wasp uses a Silkwing to track the locations of invisible dragons, one being a rainwing. The thing about that skirmish was that the silkwing and hivewings were in the hive mind, so Wasp could take information from the silkwing and control the hivewings to attack. The problem with the silkwings themselves fighting rainwings is that they don’t have any natural weapons apart from flamesilk, and like firescales, they can’t just make an army of them. So unless they developed artificial weapons like the leafwings of nightwings did, which could happen, but we have no insight to two hundred years to the future and can’t assume anything like that. Really interesting video, and this is actually something I’ve kinda thought about, though not on the scale of all the tribes, but on small conflicts and skirmishes.

I feel like one important thing to mention is that the Skywings have fire deep in their heart that allows them to withstand cold. This wouldn't be a huge change for the outcome, but it would definitely lower the Icewings' chances of winning by a fair bit. And the Leafwings only lost to the hivewings in a gradual attack they didn't realise was happening- And they aren't gonna make that mistake again, so....

I love this analysis and I think you did a fantastic job pointing out each tribe's strengths and weaknesses! I have never thought about a WoF world war but now that you have brought it up, I'll definitely be giving it thought. I think it would be interesting if you also included not only the tribes' physical abilities but also their tribe setups. Like for the MudWings, they would physically not be as high up as say, the SandWings. But if you took account how they structure their armies that would change everything. I think that in one of the books someone stated that the MudWings were excellent fighters and that was partly because of their 'sib' system. This would also be fun to dive into because we got a hint from Fjord (when he was fighting Clay) that IceWings train somewhat in other tribe combat techniques. Again, I love this WoF WW idea and all of your other analysis videos! Keep doing amazing work and being an overall great person!

To be completely fair, if this is taking place 200 years later Glory would’ve definitely made rainwings more deadly ( just by what’s seen in the current books she made a ton of progress let alone 200 years later )

Don’t forget that clay, a mud wing, could’ve beaten a full grown icewing, fjord, on his own when he wasn’t full grown. I think this is one of the most overlooked things in the series.

another pro about icewings they are super organized and not to mention they also have lots of spikes they can use when it comes to close range attacking plus those super sharp claws

Ok its time to go way too serious with this comment. Here we go! The Hivewings would probably win the war. This is why. Pantala is so isolated from the rest of the tribes, an the other tribes on the continent (i.e. the Silkwings and Leafwings) have weaksauce powers and are crippled by lackluster geography. The Leafwings might seem tough but even if there was trees covering the whole continent, you could always just burn them out. Silkwings are trash lol. This means that the Hivewings could own an entire continent with ease early into the war. And due to Pantala's isolation, they'd by hard to mess with. The Hives would be fortresses that repelled attacks with sheer number of soldiers in a single area. With enough patrolls, no other tribe could touch this continent. Not to mention if they start forcing the other two tribes to serve them, which would make them even stronger (think Silkwing antennae, which could spot invisible rainwings, for example) The Hivewings could probably conquer the other tribes without too much trouble. Their kit might SEEM bad and unreliable, but their diversise assortment of powers would actually be a blessing in war. More options allows for more unique stratagies, more areas they can tackle. Tail venom is op too. Also they aren't bad even without powers: they have very controlled flight and they have always been a very orginized tribe. Combine the Hivewings OP toolset of assorted abillities, complete geographic isolation, and weak foes they could easily subdue, and a very orginized society, the Hivewings could take on the rest of the world. Also side note if they use the Breath of Evil they'd be even more op because they'd basically be the only tribe with a way to get orders from far away. Also also side note they have the best tech too: that might not mean much, but it is the cherry on top.

My guess would be on the Rainwings, Leafwings, or Seawings. Rainwings, as said absolutely insane even without much or any training. Leafwings, as said could decimate all of the others. Different from what was said is that one Leafwing with mid to powerful leafspeak would only need one flora covered field to do massive amounts of damage. Seawings, as said likely wouldn't get taken completely out. Different from what said is that they could wait for all of the others to weaken each other and then simply clean up the survivors.

I agree, silkwings may be my favorites but they don't stand a chance XD. Love the new stills

Just want to say, I love your sprites so much! They're so pretty and really expressive-great job, whoever drew them!

I wouldn’t say Rainwings would use their venom as their philosophy is that they use it peacefully, Nightwings 200 years from now would probably have recovered and become a superpower as they also have mind reading and vision, being in the rainforest after all. Rainwings do have blow-darts which makes the Rainwings a powerful threat. Icewings and Seawings are really isolated but self sufficient due to infinite food supply in these kingdoms (The hole where Icewings can get any sort of food). Sandwings can also go a long time without food, which can really be effective during times of war. Hivewings have special abilities as well they can easily wipe out the Silkwings, not so much as the Leafwings, but can reassure dominance in the Pantalan Continent. Here is what I think would win the Pyrriha Theatre: Rainwings:First Icewings Seawings Icewings Nightwings Sandwings Mudwings Skywings: Last

For me 1 Icewings - personally I put average skill and strategy more than powers, Winter who considered himself a failure beat shapeshifter with relative ease. Icewings were said to be careful planners and that there fortifications were some of the best. Fjord even said icewings learned mudwing foughting techniques for battle 2 Skywings - Again skill over powers, skewing were some of the deadliest fighters as queen scarlet shrewd through her enemies. Skywings can survive any climate including the ice kingdom 3 Hivewings - there Rainwings but better, and there knowledge and development in society could pose a threat 5 Leafwings - in poison jungle the seem to use there environment to their advantage, by knowing there sortounding they could use it to there advantage, sundew and mandrake have pretty strong leafspeak and are very skilled with it. In 200 years they would be a power house 6 Mudwings - They said they were focused dragons and always on task, while I don’t think they could compete they could certainly be a treat 7 Seawings - nothing here to mention LOL 8 Rainwings - why do people put them so high, they have no skill or intelligence, they would lose a war quickly if it weren’t for glory, and glory still can’t make Rainwings skillful 9 Nightwings - the chance of a dragon being born on a moon is unlikely especially since there are few nightwings, also they have less skill and they are to weak to fight a war, why did they plan a war for 18 years to takeover that rainforest, because they are in a weak position 10 Silkwings - there pacifists Edit. I forgot sandwings I put them at 8 and move down the others

The RainWings are seriously strong, all they need is actual interest in fighting. XD But even an army that's twice larger than theirs would lose to RainWing venom and "strategy"-camounflage (so quallity>quantity may work, it's even proven in the WW1). The SkyWings would mostly depend on firescales or high altitudes to win a battle, since not all tribes have the strenght their wings have to flying as high. SeaWings are strong around water, where they can "bend" it or have enemies drown, other than that they can only use their claws. I feel like the MudWings are intimidating in stature which, you know, fair, but they're really afraid of frostbreath and they could probably fight the SeaWings underwater for only an hour or less. Overall, interesting video! :D Such a war would be interesting to see.

I feel organization factors into this as well Like leafwings being in factions definetley hinders them Rainwings and nightwings not caring for war Icewings having internal conflicts over hierarchy making wars just a chance to gain a higher rank (which anyone playing in lol know rankings only ever causes losses) And mudwings being so personalized and separate makes them only useful as bodyguards Etc

It's always a great day when there's an upload from JMA :D

Just about everything I had to say you'd already summed up pretty well Great video, really enjoyed it!

There is an important point about nightwings, in book 4, it mentions that they have a toxin in their saliva that they used to poison their prey on the island, so maybe they could use it to defend themselves.

i think rainwings belong in the "unlikely to win" tier. most rainwings can't even bring themselves to kill prey... despite their powers, they would be super incompetent soliders.

The seawings can just chill underwater, grow in population by a lot, and brute force the other tribes

I got into wings of fire like a month ago and I am literally almost done with the second art I am going to subscribe and keep my eyes on this channel. Good job 👍

Yay, my favorite three tribes are in the same tier! Especially since they would have a lot of time to change, I think the RainWings very well might be a winning tribe. With Glory as their queen, some of the more pacifist practices might fade away as she trains them on how to be a strong tribe. Great video! 🤩

Only physical ability Sea wings have is a powerful tail Also I'd like to point out, because Flames scales are genetic, it's possible their not as rare as we thought, and more so just need more time to become genetically common. The only reason they were rare is because they were killed, and parents not allowed to breed anymore.

Considering the current state of the WOF world, I wonder how the Nightwing-Rainwing unification would affect the war in regards to Hybrids.

This is the very first video I watched on your channel so the new avatar I guess was just a new welcome to me, I missed all the suspense, well um hi JMA!

One HUNDRED percent agree. The only thing I can think of that I might disagree with is maybe putting sand wings just higher than the ice wings, but that would only be because of their significantly higher population.

Lets not forget that if one of the dominant tribes won hybrids over to their side, they may very well get beneath the sea or into the ice kingdom. That is a very terrifying thought.

My personal take is that... NightWings are tactical, have the night advantage if they care to, but are right next to RainWings. RainWings can blend in, but aren't militarized, so they'd probably just survive but not take many dragons out. SkyWings could outlast the others in a game of aerial endurance and seem pretty likely to get somewhere, not win but get a bit of headway. SilkWings are generally pacifists, but could probably use their silk to some advantage. HiveWings seem to have a very organized society. During Wasp's era, I feel like they could win with one dragon puppeteering them all. Otherwise though... probably not. LeafWings, as people have said, are very tactical and have good tech for wartime, so I think that they could definitely win. SeaWings could just swim to sea to regroup or do basically anything. It's not a hard contest for pure endurance, but could they win on land? Not really--they don't have fire or anything useful outside of water besides a strong tail. MudWings could hide, and close-knit bonds would definitely help with individual groups, but they don't really seem to have much going for then besides that. SandWings have venom in their tails, but there is an antidote. They can also breathe fire, but don't seem to have much tribal loyalty beyond normal. Meh. IceWings can live up north and do have claws and frostbreath. This makes them pretty likely winners as well, because of their combo offense and ability to retreat to frozen land if need be.

Mudwings could live with out a queen because of th sib bond, they could fight seawings in water because they can hold their breath for an hour, and all bigwings are fire proof (I think). Mud wings should be up higher

Love the video !

Many problems with this I'm afraid. The nightwings have already developed rainwing resistant armor and I'm willing to bet that would help neutralize much of their threat. Rainwings would have to take an extremely stealthy approach an focus on assassinating key players in other tribes rather than winning battles. Rainwings are extremely frail in battle, after all. Venom means nothing if your opponent is smart enough to counter it. Icewings do extremely poorly in hot climates and need to be cold enough for frostbreath so they could never conquer the desert. I believe most of their territory is bordered by desert so they would have to conquer it first to move further inland to fight other tribes. Sandwing barbs are extremely dangerous but even easier to counter than rainwing venom as they could simply be cut off in a well aimed blow. Flamescales could be killed by well aimed projectiles, something they talk about in escaping peril.

I totally think the RainWings would smoke the other tribes in a potential world war. The question is whether they would actually be motivated to fight and be willing to kill, but if they were then you can't even call it a fight. They would make quick work out of those fools or anyone who opposed them, but I don't think that tribe is going to put together enough will to do that anytime soon. I mean, Glory is by far to most fierce RainWing in the series and she still didn't want to use her venom to kill an assassin who's mission was to kill her. Now, I'm not saying that decision was a bad thing, (#TeamMurderbasket) but it shows how they can easily be swayed with a bit of compassion.

1:15 I think that imposter from the Halloween video is still here…

Being realistic here Leafwings-cant even work together to destroy a threat that has plagued them for years because some want fight others don't Silkwings-no form of offense and even with flames they have to deal with fighters that aren't willing to use their silk for evil or fight Hivewings-easily win because of their plethora of abilities as simple as their stun stings or smell (not gonna count mind control as an actual ability) Nightwings-close second just because of their toxic bites and amazing sneak abilities Mudwings-if they were more organized and acted like hippos they'd be comfortable but they act like crocs and thus are lenient and ambitious but not determined Sandwings-too numerous to work together on a single topic as seen with their heavy split Icewings-literally should win but they haven't been a threat Seawings-comfortable but they'd need more ambush tactics Skywings-should also win but sadly we don't get much on em and even then one skywing lost to tsunami Rainwings-should win but their want to self preserve themselves means they're gonna be pretty defensive Hivewings just have the best organization with separate queens and a hierarchy that is fair and above the idea of "natural selection" that queens have or the peaceful but useless democracy of silkwings and factions of leafwings making them easily taken over Scavengers are just not an issue, they got creativity but that's about it

I agree with the rainwings wining. Especially with Glory for their queen. Ik you said 200 years, but it could be a strong descendant of her. I love your vids!

it's cool that Jma can make his own tier list this time

2:18 at this exact moment I immediately thought of a music video with tsunami and the other sea wings singing untouchable. Jma, please make a video like this, I honestly kinda need to see someone make it now 😂❤

If any tribes ended up teaming up I think the tribe that teamed up with the silkwings would have at least a decent chance at besting the rain wings, due to silkwings being able to detect invisible dragons. I imagine a single silkwing being protected by an armed group. The silkwing's job being to detect invisible dragons that their group would then take out.

the fact that the rainwings can absolutely stomp on pretty much every other existing tribe is SO cool and it makes me wish their pacifism was taken more seriously in the books.

Bumblebee solos

For a hot second I actually thought you were going to put the scavengers on top 🤣

'our biggest strengths as humans are our intelligence and our opposable thumbs' - JMA, 2022 10/10 excellent quote

LEAFWINGS COULD SOO WIN CUZ THEY DIDNT WIN THE FIRST WAR BUT THEY STILL SURVIVED

i feel like there is an argument sandwings beat icewings due to the fact that many wars, and especially shown off in the third arc with the destruction of trees, are won do to taking away the recourses required for another tribe to live, such as habitat, or food, sandwings can live by far the longest on almost no food or water, which i think was an overlooked strength when it comes to the more tactical long term parts of warfare.

I like how you got it sunny in this video

Absolutely loved this video, my dream come true. Likeness of history and geography and alternate history? Check. WoF? Check. Both?! YES! My favourite video on KZfaq rn!

I definitely agree with RainWings being the tribe most likely to win, what with their stealth and venom abilities. However, I feel like HiveWings would be placed a bit higher on the list, maybe before or after SandWings. Yes, the HiveWings' powers are so random and all over the place but at the same time, they're not really rare. From what's been shown in the books, it appears that the HiveWings who were born with powers are more common than those who weren't (I could be wrong though). So there'd still be plenty of powerful HiveWings in their army and even the ones who don't have powers are still pretty strong. Not only that, but HiveWings also seem to be very versatile and I feel like they wouldn't have much difficulties conquering the Pyrrhian kingdoms, except for the Ice Kingdom and maybe the Kingdom of the Sea.

Personally i think the icewings via attention, when you can't possibly lose the result is in your favor no matter what, and as you said icewing's froatbreath is about as bad as the rainwings, while the rainwings are most certainly an extreamly lethal threat, their home is still POSSIBLE to assimilate, whilst icewings just kind of...don't care. That being said a powerful leafspeak in the poison jungle may as well be a god because that place is Australia but worse, to the point that Sundew in book 13 thought about unleashing the jungle on the hivewings if things went to crud.

Love the animation!

I think you've pretty much nailed it on the head. RainWings would win. Ignoring them, its an interesting race between the Night, Ice, and Sand... Sand and Ice would be decently balanced. Frost breath would be less effective in the desert, but SandWings would be crippled by cold even more so than others. When you consider 1/10 ish NightWings would have one of the two powers (3 moons, 30 days in a cycle.) they'd certainly have a tactical advantage, if not a weapons one, but consider, they are also the most... industrial is the wrong word, but they were making armor in Book 4. Also, a point *against* the RainWings, I read "No known natural weapons" meaning their teeth and claws are not sharp. I'm reasonably certain Glory never once attacks someone by means other than her magic death spit, and the lack of sharp teeth would explain the unanimous vegetarian lifestyle. Their venom is just, so several overkill though that this basically doesn't matter. The only issue is how much venom does each RainWing have? Nobody has ever been shown to "run out" Lastly, a point against SkyWings, particularly their Flamescales. In book 8, Qibli thought of several ways to defeat Peril within seconds of meeting her. Willing to bet that includes water. It reads less like her scales are hot, and more like her scales are enchanted to burn anything flamable they touch. If she was really hot enough to melt metal upon brief contact with her, you could not stand in the same room as her without being cooked. While surrounded by water, it effectively disenchants her scales temporarily (as we she touches a fish on the way into possibility, though I may be remembering that wrong.)

I actually got think the rain wings wouldn’t have much chance because they’re so peaceful and probably wouldn’t use their venom

I strongly agree with the pick of RainWings. The combination of being able to turn invisible AND spray deadly (if not deadly, then extremely close) venom is unbeatable. They can hide and choose to attack at anytime they choose. Although some of them can’t control their emotions well (which correlates to their scale color), I feel like most of them can and will use/control their scales well. Most of the RainWings aren’t very stupid, so it would make sense that they would be clever enough to attack when they want. They also have extremely good flying skills as demonstrated in book 3. Having all these skills (scale color control, venom, experienced flight) would make you think that they are the best choice to win against the other tribes. Their skills can be countered, but not easily. It would take much intelligence to outsmart the RainWings abilities. That is why I agree with you JMA. Also, great video. It was an amazing one. Loved to hear your (accurate) opinion for this one.

When I clicked on this video I thought it was going to be all the characters that have a point of view book dedicated to them in a free for all, and instantly I thought Peril would win unless Qibli could come up with a way to kill her before anyone could kill him, and since he said he had like, three ways to kill her just by looking at her, mostly from afar until she landed beside him, I'd say he has a decent chance at it, but Peril would still only have to touch him for a couple seconds to win, so it could go either way, but then it turned out to be an actual world war, and I pretty much agree with these choices. Rainwings are EASILY the biggest threat to everyone else for pretty obvious reasons. The only draw back is that they would have to become non-pacifists in order to win, so who knows if they could do that before somebody killed them off?

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I don’t agree where you put the leafwings

Or scavengers could nuke them

I also thought of another reason that Icewings would be above Sandwings! If attacked, they could whip their tail or use their spikes against enemies! Whereas Sandwings just have their tails besides teeth and claws

I like how he pretended to put the scavengers at the top before actually putting them in the bottom Lol

So what weve learned: If Glory has a villian arc, we're all dead

I love this idea so here’s my two cents about who would win! (If it seems biased it might be because I love rainwings and silkwings but anyways) 1: RAINWINGS They can turn invisible, they have deadly venom, they can hang upside down and use their tail as an extra hand, and if they can strategize well, they would be unstoppable. Also, their venom is basically instant death if injected into eyes, mouth, or into an open wound, and if they can shoot venom while they’re biting something, then their bites would be SUPER deadly, not to mention that they can sneak super well. Their only weakness is their passive nature and perhaps a silkwing’s ability to see via vibration, disrupting the camouflage. That’s all I have to say. Rainwings would definitely win.

Thank you so much for respecting the RainWings!!

I love that your a silkwing/nightwing combo

I think the hivewings should be higher, since there are so many of em!

Defiantly agree with the rankings

the nightwings would be pretty good spys too because they couldn't really spy in the nightwing-icewing war so if they send some mind readers they would probably have a lot of knowledge

I also have no idea of who would win this all out brawl but I think maybe the sea Wings might have an advantage but I doubt it but the rain wings I definitely agree with you and they just have so much at their disposal

OMG JMA YOUR OC HAS EMOTIONS NOW!!!! 😊😊 (huge fan hope you see this)

I feel like everyone is overestimating the leafwings by a LOT. The only leafwing with leafspeak powerful enough to do ANYTHING had to be specifically bred for that job for five centuries. There’s no chance of one being present during the war.

I'd imagine after 200 years the nightwings would have their powers back So I'm glad you included them

I think the scavengers would have the best chance of winning. First of all, everyone would underestimate the scavengers, and barely attack them at all. Second of all, they are the most technologically advanced. They have ballistas, bows and arrows and catapults and no other tribe does. Third of all, they have scavenger dens in every kingdom (aside from the poison jungle). This would give them access to a variety of resources. Fourth of all, they have built secret towns underground. It would be very difficult for the other tribes to find them. Fifth of all, there is no animus magic, like you said, which is the only thing that would allow them to easily find the scavenger dens. Sixth of all, the other tribes can't capture scavengers and try to get information out of them to find the secret villages. They don't speak the same language. Seventh of all, very few dragons have shown interest in finding out things about scavengers and their weaknesses. This lack of knowledge would give the scavengers the upperhand. Eighth of all, many scavengers have shown interest in finding things about dragons. By the time of the war, they would be well aware of many of the dragon's weaknesses. Ninth of all, humans can go without food for 2 months while dragons, according to Starflight in book 4, can only go 1 month without eating. This means that if they attacked each others food supply, the dragons would starve to death first. Finally, while dragons will be able to take the high ground, or more accurately the high sky, they won't be able to take full advantage of it. The main advantage of having the high ground is that you barely have to lead your shots while firing at closer range. However, at no point in the entire wings of fire series, do we see a dragon using a bow. Of course, this is all just a theory and only my way of rating the scavengers.

‘Attack from their magic death spit-‘ Glory ‘WE ARE NOT CALLING IT MAGIC DEATH SPIT’

Also, to add insult to injury, even if scavengers can hide in places that dragons can't get to, depending on the place there may be ways to attack a scavenger since dragons have ranged attacks or can craft something to kill from afar like the cactus bombs. I find it hard to believe humans are the apex of this world. They need a rival.

Personally, I think the Nightwings should be with the rain wings. Imagine a whole army of mind reader and seers, because 2,000 years in the future from arc 3 the Nightwings might have started hatching their eggs in the full moons and maybe half of the tribe or more would have some of those powers, so they would probably be almost invincible, and not to mention that the rain wings and Nightwings are basically the same tribe since glory became queen. But they might have split up then and gotten separate queens, but they might be smart enough to decide to team up again

dark stalk: just starts slapping all of the dragons away while laughing

It made laugh every time you said “magical death spit” i think it only happened maybe three times but still

I agree with your rankings for the most part, but there are some things I would change First off, I would place the leaf wings right below the sand wings and the hive wings right below the leaf wings. While it is possible to get rid of the trees to hinder the leaf wings, the leaf wings also have other weapons and are very resourceful. Second, I believe that the only reason the hive wings won was because they gradually got rid of the trees - weakening the leaf wings without them noticing - and the hive wings had the silk wings on their side, doubling their numbers. Secondly, I would categorize Rainwings and Nightwings as the same tribe due to the fact that they are being ruled under one queen. While this could change in the future, it might not for a while (especially if the nightwings are happy living in the rainforest 200 years from now). This would make the rainwings and nightwings overpowered. Thirdly, it is possible that because the rainwings and nightwings are being ruled under the same queen, their tribes could merge, creating a tribe of nightwing-rainwing hybrids (which would have another name) This would remove the possibility of the tribes separating, which would support how overpowered they would be. Fourthly, while rainwings and nightwings would be very dominant, it is possible that in 200 years armor is created to block rainwing venom. The hive wings already invented glass, making it possible for them to still see even with protection over their eyes. Not to mention armor would be very useful in this war to block many attacks (sandwing tail barb, icewing claws, any claws, rainwing venom, hive wing abilities, etc.) Because of this reason a rule should be created that the tribes can’t use armor. Fifth, I think you underestimated the sand wings and they should be placed right below the rainwings and nightwings. Not only do they have the tail barb, but they have fire, which gives them a bonus when attacking the 5/6 tribes that don’t. They also can survive very long with less food and water than other tribes, a trait that would allow them to travel longer with less breaks. Not to mention the fact that they can fly for a long time in the desert’s high heat. So with all things considered and with other things I haven’t discussed, this is what I believe the ranking should be: Rainwings and nightwings Sand wings Ice wings Leafwings Hivewings Sky wings Mudwings Sea wings Silkwings Scavengers

The ice wings would just awkwardly watch as all the other tribes were slaughtering each other as they sat behind their wall.

I feel like icewings would be stronger than nightwings, i mean the only reason Queen Battlewinner survived the frost breath was because the nightwings lived on the volcano with easy access to lava and even then she was put at a huge disadvantage. If Icewings practiced aiming for the face they could easily blind other dragons too, perhaps even being a serious threat to the rainwings

So, seeing the point made at the beginning of the video of these books are made for kids. I work in the operations for my local school system and sometimes go out to the schools. I saw the series at an elementary school. Can't wait to hear about how 6 year old Timmy decided to pop open book 1 and get to Scarlet's arena. That's definitely what we should be showing our kids. Bloody gladiatorial combat. xD

This is a really great video and an exciting concept that I have thought about a lot personally. While I mostly agree with everything you said I think you put a little too much emphasis on the abilities of each tribe rather than their tactical ability and how they could fight a war. Well, actually you did cover these things but not too extensively. For example, I think if the SkyWings thought of it they could conduct a fairly effective blitz on the rainforest and Poison Jungle using cacti bombs and fire if they wanted to. This would have weakened the RainWings and LeafWings a lot in battle. Also, I think SkyWings have a great combination of warrior philosophy and the numbers to back it up which would it a dangerous tribe in war. It's a shame that we didn't see too much of this kind of strategy in the books. Overall, I really liked the vid and agreed with the tier list.

i loved this video

this was to good :)