Vince McMahon getting booted out of WWE temporarily, and then completely was the worst thing to happen to AEW.

Tony literally started doing everything he said he shouldn't do back in 2019.

33:11 For as much as I appreciate Tranquilo Club and others, you're spot on. It's always "the old timers don't know anything about wrestling evolving," etc. Etc.

AEW was made to oppose Vince's mindset of wrestling. The thing is... Vince is no longer in charge. It's different entity now.

Thank you for sharing this. While I've never been a big AEW fan, I understand the need for it. WWE got too big, repetitive, and out of control. AEW made them realize they needed to make changes and lit a fire under them. My biggest problem with AEW from Day One is people like the Bucks, Jericho, and Tony himself taking shots at WWE from the gate. Saying they would beat WWE in the ratings and be the biggest company ever. Jericho calling himself the "Demo God or the One-Million View Man" is why people take the piss out of AEW now, you already set yourself up for failure. AEW is good for business as an alternative but it needs someone who can run it properly as a business and not because they dreamed of fantasy booking. Jericho, The Elite, and Tony are part of the problem and need to go, for AEW to thrive, just like Vince needed to go for the WWE. Tony can still be the owner of AEW, but someone else needs to be the head booker. The events of last week have shown that. No one wants AEW to die or go away even if we are critical of it, we just need it to be the best number 2 it can be.

The first error that made me feel gutted as a fan, was Darby Allin being redhot at the time and pushing the whole "relentless" thing, and people buying into it from all the pain hed put himself through to win... then immediately have him tap to Jericho at a PPV. Like what?!!!! You're selling this guy as relentless, but you have him tap right out of the gate?! It was so easy to fix that. You could have done EVERYTHING the exact same, but at the end of the match, when Darby gets put in the Walls, have him hold on for a long time before "passing out." Jericho gets his win, and then you can go on Dynamite and hype how Darby held for really long, to the point that he'd rather pass out than tapout, and you could have kept him off TV for a few weeks saying that him staying so long in the walls did something to his vertebrae. And have Darby come back acting like performinh the coffin drop REALLY hurts him, while one announcer sells how Darby shouldn't do the move that recently after back treatment, while another announcer sells how Darby is Darby, will do anything to win a fight/title. You could have gotten lots of sympathy for Darby while getting heat on Warlow by having Warlow Powerbomb Symphony the crap out of Darby after having back treatment. (Although I think Warlow was just doing double powerbombs back then.) None of this is rocket science.

For whatever it’s worth, I never saw your criticism of AEW as hatred or your praise of AEW as blind love. I always respect your opinion on topics (this being one of them). Thank you for being open about your thoughts on AEW in past videos and in this video. I am sad that AEW isn’t as on a solid foundation as it was when it started. While there are things I enjoy about AEW now, the flaws you pointed out (and called years ago) are ever present. I truly hope AEW makes improvements and if that means having someone else be the lead booker (which may not happen anytime soon or at all), that may need to be the move so that AEW can grow. If it were to somehow happen, TK should hire Scott D’Amore (who was fired for some reason by TNA but that’s another conversation) to lead a creative team to book AEW programming. TK can still be the owner; he would just relinquish his booking power of AEW shows and maybe he can keep booking ROH since that seems to be more his speed nowadays. Thank you again for your transparency on this topic

Got into pro wrestling because of your videos. Keep up the awesome work

I feel like you just ripped my thoughts outta my head and put it out verbally. I have this exact problem with AEW as of late.

Thank you!!! 👏 👏 👏 👏 We need a part 2!

All jokes aside, as a wrestling fan, i would love for aew to be good. I remember when tna was amazing between 2007-2009, having both wwe and tna to watch was GREAT (matter of fact tna was even better than wwe during those times lol)

Man, you were spittin in this video. A lot of valid points and criticism.

you’re speaking facts Geekdom keep up the great work my man 💯

The recency bias of saying 2022 and 2019 had the worst ppv endings of all time is actual insanity.

Aew isn't perfect (neither is WWE to be fair) but people who want Aew to fail have no idea what their talking about. Aew being around means more competition and more jobs for wrestlers. There was a time when WWE was hot trash and we wanted something like Aew to see something different. Aew may no be the best right now but im glad their here and i just hope they improve their product. If WWE can do it anyone can.

Danny that company has been a joke since the first pre show match. They put a legless guy in the battle royal. Right there I knew this company wasn't serious.

Geekdom does it again! Love this video man all your points are spot on! 💜

People really do be caring about them 3 letter initials of a company. It puts me off when I hear a "NXT NXT NXT" or a "AEW AEW AEW" chant when someone does something cool. Chant the wrestlers name, not the promotion you marks.

hey geekdom hope your well

The biggest problem with aew is that they cannot take criticism. When you're in the world of creativity, art you absolutely HAVE to be able to take criticism. Certain Aew fans are like yes men and refuses to acknowledge its fault and that's slowly killing it

6:11 😂 Spot on.

I agree with this. Tony has brought us a good alternative and I am happy with it. Being an AEW Fan is hard, especially when you're from Latin America. The Spanish Commentary sucks and the way AEW is distributed sucks too, as AEW has hopped networks and had so many distribution deals, that it's becoming ridiculous. I believe in the product, but these booking decisions are not working. This video is well put together and all and I think it captures frustration with AEW. I'm also surprised you mentioned Tranquilo Club too. I hang out with him and well, while TK does listen to Tranquilo Club. It's usually for a short while until Tony forgets the suggestion he gave him like the rankings and ideas he posts on YT.

I remember when they did that press conference I think it was in Florida I’m probably wrong lol. And if I remember correctly they were doing a roster reveal with Cody, Jericho, the bucks the hype was real back then. It’s so disappointing because Omegas run in Japan is what made me interested in wrestling again after just cruising through yt and seeing highlights form wwe shows. Now WWE has got my interest complete. While AEW has so many stars with them but Tony can’t book for shit. Did anyone see that match between jay white and Billy gun? That was unnecessary loss for jay white.

AEW is having an identity crisis. At the start, it had its own unique aura, fresh everything. Lately, it's been oscillating between PWG, WCW and ECW. Somehow, it needs to get back to the original format.

I thought I heard that the company AEW contracted to set up the explosion match screwed up. The tested it earlier in the day and it went off well but shit the bed when it was supposed to work

There was an alternative before AEW existed. It was and still is New Japan Pro Wrestling. NJPW built everything from the ground up and was prepared for an international expansion that was going to change the industry for the better forever. Tony came in and gutted what was being prepared.

I agree

Seeing that Geekdom is huge on DragonBall, it's no shock that he can see the toxic BTE mob

I agree with you, man I like all wrestling are used to buy all AEW’s pay-per-view, I don’t hear anymore just because they’re adding more and they’re expensive not to mention they don’t do a lot of booking for every match on the card for dynasty. I’m not buying it or will I spray and Brian Danielson sorry for the typos. I have cerebral palsy so I have to dictate to Siri.

6:11 spot on Tony Khan impression

In 2019 he was sober

As a wrestler, not only do we need AEW, but we need TNA, MLW, NWA, etc. There's too much talent out there that will never be seen, get a chance, or have a shot at the big time. So smaller promotions like the ones mentioned (not calling AEW small but you get my drift) allows them to learn how to work TV, realize what works for a larger audience, and MAYBE gives them a better chance to be looked at by WWE. I'm not always a fan of how AEW is ran, but as a wrestler, we need promotions like that. Gives many a chance to be seen and eat.

You summed up the first part of the video really well. The thing holding it back is TK unfortunately. All he needs to do is write checks and let other people run the show. He legitimately changed personalities and did the exact opposite of what he said he would do. Him appealing to the internet fans instead of just making sound decisions

good listen

Spot on 💯 couldn’t have been more true. I was the same- AEW all the way and then AEW self sabotaged themselves and WWE started crushing it.

I think the stress producing 3 television programs, owner a NFL team, and a premier league team is too much. On a personal note, he probably developed an “addiction problem”. Which explains the personality change.

I felt like the interim title thing began alot of problems. He couldn't just strip his favorite CM Punk of the title so he basically put it on hold, only forcjis golden goose to get hurt again and he forced to vacate over extenuating circumstances. Then the same problem became of the womens title. If TK ran RAW Rhea would just have an interim champ until she came back.

The sad part about all this is Tony Khan is going to continue listening to the people like tranquilo club, WWE real one, and others on Twitter. Not because they support aew, they just generally hate wwe.

Tony Khan is the Tyler Perry of the wrestling world.

Who is this video for? Is it for yourself or is it just for other people?

Just saw the video about Khan not caring about the fans and how a rich kid doesnt care about the loss and I couldnt agree more. I used to defend the opposite of that idea saying that Khan wouldn't let his money diminish but boy was I wrong. Everyone on X talked about how he could run the company for years because hes so rich but thats a stupid business move and that reflects on who he is. All he wants to do is turn his investment into a billion dollar corporation and think of himself as a savior or the next Vince McMahon.

I don't understand why people have a problem with other people liking what they want to like, I watch WWE weekly and ppvs, and I watch aew ppvs (aew weekly is just not my style) and I love both, I've enjoyed every aew ppv and I love WWE, why can't all people just enjoy what they want without attacking others for liking the opposite

This is gonna go Over well on Twitter 😂

I keep saying it and wont stop Hire Scott Demore to handle day to day operations all tony does is crunch the numbers Scott runs the company

To be honest, I have not watched one single episode of rampage and for dynamite itself, and it's whole 5 year Inception. I probably only watch like maybe 5 episode at most.

I started a little before punk came. Glad to say I experienced AEWs golden age

I remember MsDBZbabe was so into AEW. Tweeting about every show, and now she doesn’t post anything about it

Maybe Tony Khan should let his dad booker the company

Triple H grind at will Assprays age:flying from city to city,hiring countless rental cars, wrestling 5 nights a week,gym sessions,building his career,missing family,doing television and housework shows As‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌sprays grind:Works 1 night a week,flying back and forth from uk to see family,1show appearance,no house shows. +--------------------------+ AEW=Absurd Egoistic Whiny AEW=Afraid Embarrassing Weak AEW= Alarming Endangered Wanton AEW=Abysmal Empty Wasteful AEW=Awful Elder Wasteland.

It was better in the early years. It still felt like a cosplay cruiserweight division tho

WWE had better shows during pandemic, to me. It's just a shame they didn't think of the Thunderdome until it was too late. Because if they had done that to begin with, Pandemic Era wouldn't have failed so much.

AEW or WWE or NFL

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but the absence of Cody Rhodes is severely felt after he left, and it's probably not a coincidence that this was when AEW's honeymoon period came to an end. Of the original EVPs when AEW started, I am starting to believe Cody was the glue that held everyone together, and his influence is the reason for their hot starts. Once Cody left in early 2022, the slow decline of AEW's product and Khan's need to stamp his mark everywhere became evident. Even though I admit I prefer WWE better, I am in the camp that advocates for alternatives, cause not only does it mean more jobs for wrestlers and other personnel, but healthy competition can also help with improving the quality of the wrestling product. Once again, I need to stress that my beef with AEW has never been with the product, the wrestlers (especially since there was a lot of WWE alumni that Vince ran out, sometimes for very petty reasons), or the presentation. It's the fan base, specifically the hardliners, the worst of the IWC, and the group that Khan desperately wants to be a part of. Even if my teams lose, I try to be gracious in defeat, rather than try and rub it in, which these hardliners absolutely relish in AEW's high period. Tribalism is a problem in the wrestling community, and I will be the first to admit WWE has its share of douchebag fans. However, as much as our product stinks at times, we do not cry victim when it gets criticized. Khan and his hardliner fans take any slight very seriously, like you just insulted their entire being (a trait of narcissism, which I have since learned). Their constant need to flex and posture over WWE is also getting very annoying over time, like a petulant child that won't let go of the slight until they get that final middle finger moment. Long story short, while I am certainly fine with AEW existence and its success, I would prefer it to not come with fueling the egos of these entitled and narcissistic hardliners, cause Khan is clearly taking pages from them, and it's hurting AEW's success and presentation at the moment.

Aew is the rebirth of WCW because they keep hiring ex wwe guys who aint gonna draw the needle start creating new stars who lead the company to greater heights.

The sport industry is not doing great as the movie and TV industry

I agree with everything you said except for towards the end when you said that Tony was disrespectful towards Cena and the Undertaker. Yeah he definitely was disrespectful but lets not sit here and pretend like The Undertaker was respectful. He on multiple occasions had made comments about AEW a couple times on his podcast. I'm just saying lets not sit and pretend like it's always been AEW doing things

You know, I remember the days when I loved AEW.... hell, I praised AEW and heralded it as a silver lining to the generally stagnent professional wrestling industry at the time but now I look at what happened to it and I can't help but think that maybe AEW was flying too close to the sun.

33:54 he reminds me of me when I was strung out on amphetamines, in my opinion.

I appreciate your wrestling takes geekdom, im a aew fan from day one but i will never lie about how bad this shits been for me over 2years and i keep watching cause i like alot of the wrestlers and i want to support the boys but its been dogshit for awhile and idk how much longer i can watch it

Vince Russo of all people left WWF because he was gonna have to HELP book 2 shows per week ( yeah money was a factor) here you have Tony booking 4 per week and a PPV. His promotion would be failing if he was playing EWR or TEW, never mind in real life.

My parents have been helpful to get me to earn my keep. Tony's dad didn't do that. Tony is an example of a big baby, that my nephews (at 6 & 9) are becoming men. Young men, but men nonetheless.

It started great and at the right time. Some of the issues i have relate to booking, long matches and lack of interesting rivalries. It's good entertainment for those that like pure wrestling, but to me watching a 15 minute + match with a top star having a tough match against a random just doesn't work in my eyes. Some matches are too intense in my opinion, intense long matches should be more exclusive rather than weekly. Too many No DQ matches. I got the impression that AEW was for me at first, but i now see i wasn't the target audience.

As long kenny omega, jobber bucks and hangman still in AEW, im gonna bash them all day long.

Take away the money and swap wrestling with Sonic/Pokemon and Tony would just be Chrischan

I stopped watching wrestling during the pandemic because one 1) empty shows are not the same 2) when wwe started adding fake audience noises.

Your assessment is spot on

My only problem with Aew is that they are lacking of identity if you back in 2019 to 2024 you can see the downside of the product casual fans are not tuning in heck even hardcore fans are slowly turning their backs on them.

Boy I was stoked for AEW in 2019. WWE was absolute shit and they were putting on a sports centric product. They lost me within the first year.

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He honestly making the same mistakes Elon Musk is made. He’s gotta keep a check on his ego and management needs to stop him if he’s about to do something like using the Punk footage.

200 likes your welcome

The top 3 worst things to happen to AEW 1. Losing Cody, Punk and Jade 2. Vince McMahon getting cancelled 3. Focusing too much on pointless “dream matches” instead of providing decent storytelling

Everyone from Konnan, Bischoff and Jericho say Tony is a genius, big brain, the Rain Man of wrestling but he does nothing but stupid stuff on his tv show

AEW needs to find the magic they made them the draw they were in the beginning. Play Tony Khan not staying in his Lane and poking at WWE because he got CM Punk out of retirement he took his eye off the ball and now the product is totally suffered from it

Anxiety and yayo messing Tony mind up

I'm not going to piss of the AEW fanboys and say their favorite company's dead because I don't think it's going to happen as long as Tony Khan keeps pumping money into it. I AM going to say, and this isn't the first time saying it, that money dries up eventually, even a billionaire's money. So, for at least, AT LEAST, two years, AEW will stay alive.

Things wrong with AEW: 1. Tony 2. AEW Fans 3. No stars 4. AEW Fans 5. Dumb matches 6. AEW Fans 7. Tony

Imo AEW started to lose steam when the pandemic ended and the CM Punk stuff was basically the final nail in the coffin. Don't be surprise if you see most of the ex WWE guys back in NY in the next 3 years.

Babe. Wake up! Geekdom just dropped!

I used to like aew, but i hated tony khan. tk booking garbage. most of wrestler their just for a paycheck, no improve (wrestling, promo), no grind no passion, no drive. tony khan have worst booking decisions. foundation of aew horrible no real management skills

When you're a sports fan don't you hate football, wrestling, NASCAR and boxing and yada yada yada

I will be shocked if AEW is around 5-10 yrs from now as much as AEW is good for the wrestling business, Tony is too much of a mark to be a promoter and it’s shows by how AEW is being run.

The sport industry is not doing as well as the video game industry

I know Mike and other non wrestling channels think aew is a joke

The problem is AEW and their fan base get really tight in the gucci whenever any criticism comes out. They party their asses off when any kind of good news comes out and hide, spin or just flat out lie about the bad times. I was down with AEW AND Tony til sometime in 2022 when it started becoming bloated, too many matches where no one is dominate and way too random. If we can get back to the fun and storytelling while having good matches then cool. Half of solving the problem is Tony khan stop listening to the online AEW marks leading him off a cliff and soak in some of this massive criticism he’s getting from every direction. I don’t want AEW to die because I’ve seen what they’re capable of but if this is where we’re heading then it can die with WCW. Tony has shown he has some serious social and mental defects that I hope he can learn from and better the product.

Teanquillo club 😂

tony don't know you lil bro

Aew needs to stop worrying about wwe & paps h & focus on themselves

I agree with everything you said, and have felt this way for a while now. I've always considered AEW as an indie federation with an unlimited budget, but zero direction. TK wants constant validation that they're a "real wrestling company".

Cody Rhodes felt like the gules that held everything together

Tony khan ruining my favorite nfl team too

AEW only exist to please only one fan. Unfortunately, that one fan is the company’s boss.

I personally wanted to like AEW. But I think they fizzled out way too quickly. They have done great things. They clearly light a fire inside WWE. But Adam Page; his promo on Punk, and his inability to listen to veterans of the business, just made me see a different side of AEW and Tony. Tony should’ve definitely pull Page a side and let know know he need to be very careful about the things he says. Adam Page attitude is definitely a problem. Punk should’ve never went off the way he did. But let’s face it. Vince would’ve gotten in Page face.

Never been an AEW fan, but I do agree that a 2nd strong company that could be an alternative to WWE is needed. Whether it is TNA, NWA, AEW, or NJPW me as a consumer just want a good show. Tony Khan is definitely not the guy to lead the charge in AEW, he's a goddamn manchild mark that only cares about "dream matches" rather than making a good coherent stories, he should not book the show anymore.

Funny thing is Ryback said that AEW could eventually surpass WWE if they keep signing so many big names.

HEAR ME OUT......." CEO JERICHO " / gimic of him taking control over Tony and runs the company.

tk's just a pseudo matchmaker... booker? he's as much a booker as I could be a brain surgeon. if there's no Shahid, there'd be no aew example, the bloodline angle has been goin for almost 4 yrs and once again, its just getting started

Last episode of aew was just beyond abysmal. It's thanks to TK. Thanks guys.

They need stop trying be number 1 over wwe & papa h bc it will never happen

BTW many AEW wrestlers have praised how smart Tony Khan is, it wasn't just Dave Meltzer. 1 of those men was Bryan Danielson and Miro just said this week that Tony Khan is very smart and he hasn't even been on TV since Andrade left AEW.