WORLDS FASTEST SUR RON vs KTM 450!

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Jack Cecil

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@Jared-pr6hr 6 ай бұрын

This video with the vibes is what I needed today, Educational, Passion driven and entertaining. Glad I'm coming back to Jacks channel

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Thanks! That means a lot.

@notsoanonymous2458 6 ай бұрын

Very cool video. I love all of the numbers comparisons and then the real world comparisons.

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@ckfpv 6 ай бұрын

Yall guys think a 450 gas powered motocross bike is faster than a surron thats been Jacked up 😂 lol

@nickh5450 6 ай бұрын

Jack gives the ppl what they wanted !!! My dude !

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Gotta give it to em!

@robharrison1191 4 ай бұрын

Insta-sub! Great stuff right here. Glad the algorithms blessed me this morning

@upshiftclutchups665 6 ай бұрын

Well this makes me much more excited for my 72v chi battery to arrive. Never would have guessed a surron could compete with a 450

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

What a time to be alive. But to be clear, I'm using the NexBat from Darwin EV.

@e-mxshop3459 6 ай бұрын

Still can’t believe how close it is, the Sur Ron is in a class of it’s own

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

It really is!

@cingkole7893 6 ай бұрын

Can't wait to see you tune an ERide Pro

@RP-xb3vh 6 ай бұрын

Great informative content! Beast setup on the Surron! 💨 Maybe you can drag race both bikes together next video? Surron is the most fun you can have on two wheels IMO!

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Wanted to keep the comparison technical. Not a "race". That's why we chose this format.

@Doctorbasss 4 ай бұрын

Nice explantation and demo Jack. But what you compare is a Tuned pimped sur ron vs a stock 450.

@RaksasaMentawai 3 ай бұрын

Epic❤💪 What's the torque difference?

@scottgiebler5858 6 ай бұрын

I love my turbo fz09, but get way more seat time and enjoyment on my electirc cr80 and modded razors riding the woods in my neighborhood. Without the noise it's basically our private track.

@BenjySparky 6 ай бұрын

Jack, you rock! The Surron is a beast to be electric. Peace ✌️

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Thanks man!

@colegilbert3439 6 ай бұрын

I’d love to see you Dyno the acclaimed “80hp electric stark varg”

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

I'd love to!

@maarkkkm 6 ай бұрын

Bryan haskell has already dynoed it. 67hp

@surronzak8154 5 ай бұрын

It's only 60hp

@louietramposch4559 6 ай бұрын

Excellent Presentation. Would love to see a brushless gearless hub motor test up against them as well. Cough cough qs273

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

That would be cool

@mundosworld8445 6 ай бұрын

Let’s goooo Jack!!

@AdamOpheim 6 ай бұрын

That's scoot'n! Was the draggy recording the 0-30, 330, and 60' times? Is that with or without roll out?

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Yes Without rollout.

@Alex-oy6wb 3 ай бұрын

What’s the power to weight ratio?

@Nismo-gy3wz 5 ай бұрын

Is that an R32 on the hoist?

@pnewt8458 5 ай бұрын

Close comparison cool

@stockey 5 ай бұрын

Add a hub motor to the rear or maybe the front wheel. with the Surron mid-drive, it would work, and would be fast as hell.

@josteincarlsen2905 6 ай бұрын

I still can’t believe you can do 102 on a Sur Ron!!!😂😂😂 and actually have the balls to do it!!!!!🤪🤪🤪🫡🫡🫡✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

😬

@therealboofighter 6 ай бұрын

Do you still own the shop? How come we never see videos from there anymore?

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Yes of course. I’m not interested in showing customer cars on here. Just my tech stuff.

@therealboofighter 6 ай бұрын

@@JackCecil that’s cool. Thanks for letting us know. I still enjoy the stuff you put out.

@Cantbecurious 6 ай бұрын

You should try and race a 450 in the 1/4, that would be great content!

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

450s run out of gear too quick.

@Cantbecurious 6 ай бұрын

@@JackCecilGood point, still be would pretty interesting to see, badass build man, be safe out there.

@cingkole7893 6 ай бұрын

u cant ride a 450 in the bike lane

@audidreamscometrue 6 ай бұрын

you cant ride a surron on mars

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Very true!

@RexerYTRexer 6 ай бұрын

@@audidreamscometrue actually you can, gas bike wouldnt work on mars tho. Electric however, it doesnt need o2 to combust

@legros731 6 ай бұрын

@@RexerYTRexerand you gonna charge it with what on mars

@legros731 6 ай бұрын

I ride bike to have fun in the trail running on the side walk is stupid if I need to go somewhere I use my car way better

@jumpheat 6 ай бұрын

the aerox might be faster then both ? but great video I need a surron👍

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Haha it would be right there with them.

@Bengy22 6 ай бұрын

My previous dirt bike made 58whp and could do 114mph if you had enough room. Surrons got it beat in the weight department though almost half the weight. You should do a 20mph roll on the throttle race and see how they compare

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Yea i wanted it as close to stock to compare.

@danielniemeier2061 4 ай бұрын

Need to factor the rider weight in power to weight ratio. With a 150 rider, the 450 is 400 lbs / 47 HP is 8.5 pounds per HP. The surron is 270 lbs / 26 HP is 10.4 HP. So with the rider the power to weight ratio is actually worse for the surron. Also in a drag race situation saying a electric vehicle has instant torque and a gas vehicle doesn't really doesn't make any sense. You can launch the bike at whatever rpm you want and when you dump the clutch you'll be at peak torque. Still very impressive how close the surron is. I would bet a more experienced rider would have that 450 time down around 4 seconds though.

@ediefreddie5438 3 ай бұрын

even if it had half the power its not even close to the same experience. both are amazing but very different

@aakashbakshi2469 6 ай бұрын

What’s the motor and controller?

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Check out the series! Torp stuff.

@James-sir 6 ай бұрын

This is like the 3rd or 4th version of the SurOn so you are over 10 grand into it including the purchase price

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

The total cost of the surron as it sits is under 10k.

@gert-janreinders1409 6 ай бұрын

@@JackCecil under 10k? that is not bad at all

@biggestthreattoyourexistence 6 ай бұрын

Are you worried about the batteries exploding

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Not at all.

@hyper8545 6 ай бұрын

What are the price differences

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

You could google it. The market is always changing.

@hyper8545 6 ай бұрын

@@JackCecil i can't find prices for all the upgrades you do xD thats why I asked

@ckfpv 6 ай бұрын

Hey Jack dont know if you heard or even know of these guys but this giy has a channel called E-bike Guy he builds batterys and e bikes custom kinda lol well his son is the guy who rode his ebike over 100mph passed away in a motorcycle crash aweek ago in the Fl. Area not exactlly sure this car pulled out in front of him and guess he couldnt get away from death that day it came for him .

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Very sad.

@je7647 6 ай бұрын

suzuki carry represent

@7CAJONEZ 5 ай бұрын

The 450 puked and sputtered and lost a full second launching, did not shift at max rpm. Also misfiring a bit in higher gears. Set playback speed to .25x 450 has top speed of 123, gear it for 102 like Surron and it could be 3 second bike

@legros731 6 ай бұрын

One is way more fun to ride and you can ride all day

@JackCecil 6 ай бұрын

Yea the SurRon is definitely more fun. I agree.

@legros731 6 ай бұрын

@@JackCecil lol I disagree

@surronzak8154 5 ай бұрын

@@legros731 cause you never experienced it ^^

@legros731 5 ай бұрын

@@surronzak8154 lol like your opinion mean anything with a username name like that lol Maybe experience the real thing with a real bike with a real engine No gear,no clutch,weak rim,small tire,cheap suspension no thank you.Can you do a 200 feet jump with your baby toy or ride more than 1 hour guest what my bike can do like 125 mile on a tank and it take 2 minute to fill and where are you gonna charge your toy in the middle of the wood and you still need to change the whole system to just get the same performance as a real dirt bike Driving on a bike path is boring as fuck if I want to go somewhere I take my car so I have a roof and heat or a/c and is way more safe that a bike in traffic And I would love to see you doing 100mph in a dirt trail in the wood going faster is not a plus clown And better keep it outside while charging it could burn your entire house with you in it lol