126 - The Formalization of Extermination - The Wannsee Conference - WW2 - January 23, 1942

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Nazi Germany's "Holocaust by Bullets" has already claimed over a million lives over the past 8 months; this week German authorities hold a conference to streamline and systematize the process of extermination. Gas will now be the preferred method of murder. The Japanese are murdering Allied soldiers that fall into their hands as they advance ever closer to Singapore. The Soviet offensive continues along the entire Eastern Front, but the orders and objectives grow ever more confusing and chaotic. In North Africa, Erwin Rommel launches a surprise offensive against the Allies and make a lightning advance the final two days of the week.
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@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
We will be covering more details on how the Wannsee conference fits in with the decisions to perpetrate the Final Solution in our War Against Humanity in this coming week. Stay civil and obey or rules of conduct - out of respect for the victims and humanity in general will be extra vigilant under videos like these, so don't even think about transgressing our rules by even a little. They are here: community.timeghost.tv/t/rules-of-conduct/4518
@CBielski87
@CBielski87 3 жыл бұрын
turns out the Polish were right to fear their former occupiers--Germany and Russia. wonder why this narrative isn't contextualized when speaking of actual Polish foreign policy. It was literally do or die, and not uniting vs the larger powers did ensure all these deaths.
@jtgd
@jtgd 3 жыл бұрын
@@CBielski87 it’s basically a repeat of the partition of the 18th century
@jacobmiller3675
@jacobmiller3675 3 жыл бұрын
"Cough cough"$50 first sergeant / master sgt tier. "Cough cough" great show.
@Lukeee91
@Lukeee91 3 жыл бұрын
@@CBielski87 yet many Poles had no problems helping the Germans in their genocide of the Jews.
@timmmahhhh
@timmmahhhh 3 жыл бұрын
Damn the troll-pedoes, full speed ahead.
@GaldirEonai
@GaldirEonai 3 жыл бұрын
Overheard on the Kalinin front: "Comrade Colonel! It's an encirclement!" "So? That's what Stavka ordered!" "They didn't order this one..:"
@andmos1001
@andmos1001 3 жыл бұрын
“Comrade Colonel, we are surrounded!” “Perfect, we now can shoot in every directions.”
@bsmith952
@bsmith952 3 жыл бұрын
“It’s not a retreat if the enemy is all around you.”
@panzerofthelake506
@panzerofthelake506 3 жыл бұрын
"Its a test of loyalty to the motherland"
@Valdagast
@Valdagast 3 жыл бұрын
"And the Konev front has to be in Berlin by mid-March! And then... to the MOON!"
@Aakkosti
@Aakkosti 3 жыл бұрын
Now to be fair to Stalin, they do need to take out the Nazi base on the dark side of the Moon to declare victory.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aakkosti 😬🇫🇮🚀🌝
@hojoj.1974
@hojoj.1974 3 жыл бұрын
Alice Kramden made it to the Moon ahead of the Soviets... 😜
@Raskolnikov70
@Raskolnikov70 3 жыл бұрын
@@hojoj.1974 LOL, that made me laugh. It damn sure shouldn't have, but it did. Very different standards of what was acceptable back then.....
@le_travie7724
@le_travie7724 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aakkosti they'll have to content with Herr Alder
@Its__Good
@Its__Good 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the balls of steel on the general telling Stalin he didn't like his plan.
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 3 жыл бұрын
Strangely enough Stalin was quite well known for having shouting matches with people and not holding it against them later, particularly if he'd had plenty of vodka. Zhukov did it pretty constantly (again often after vodka). Unlike Hitler he never trusted yes-men (well, never trusted anyone really). Always agreeing with him was more, not less, likely to incur his suspicion.
@deyangeo
@deyangeo 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the name coming to mind is Rokosovsky. He repeatedly opposed Stalin's stupidity and lived to win the war with operation Bagration . Hundred others soviet generals was not that lucky... Actually 230 000 soviet solders were executed from Stavka on various charges during the war. And this is only the official statistic...
@mgway4661
@mgway4661 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenoliver8913 yes, vodka is a key ingredient lol
@davidschaftenaar6530
@davidschaftenaar6530 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenoliver8913 I've read journal excerpts from a U.S. diplomat who met with Stalin several times over the course of the war. He was surprised and a little disturbed about how he found Stalin so pleasant to work with despite knowing of the atrocities Stalin had perpetrated.
@davidschaftenaar6530
@davidschaftenaar6530 3 жыл бұрын
@@deyangeo Rokossovsky actually convinced Stalin at a Stavka meeting at one point, a meeting whose purpose was to intimidate Rokossovsky into following their (no doubt asinine) plan for the upcoming Operation Bagration. Rokossovsky wouldn't budge and Stalin stuck up for him to everyone's surprise, overruling Stavka in his favour.
@ARSamogin
@ARSamogin 3 жыл бұрын
The Stavka plans looks like mine when I'm playing Hearts of Iron, pockets everywhere
@leothecat9609
@leothecat9609 3 жыл бұрын
Stalin rate my pocket
@Mr.Bellafante
@Mr.Bellafante 3 жыл бұрын
My first time playing the Soviets, when I didn't know what I was doing, played out remarkably similar to actual history.
@Custerd1
@Custerd1 3 жыл бұрын
Hot Pockets! I'll show myself out...
@grandadmiralthrawn3164
@grandadmiralthrawn3164 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Bellafante same for me, since when you get more experienced you destroy Germany
@warwickeng5491
@warwickeng5491 3 жыл бұрын
If only had Hitler Trucked to Moscow, the war would have been over sharpish
@Mr_Bunk
@Mr_Bunk 3 жыл бұрын
“Comrade Colonel, where are advancing to?” “...Yes.”
@TheEngwall
@TheEngwall 3 жыл бұрын
"Comrade Colonel, where the blyat is Yes?"
@IJustKant
@IJustKant 3 жыл бұрын
You know it’s bad when there’s no telephone
@rashkavar
@rashkavar 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was worried that they scrapped the bit, because I like trying to figure out what he's referencing with the phone dialogue before it comes up in the video, but....this is not a week for levity.
@MichaelDavis-mk4me
@MichaelDavis-mk4me 3 жыл бұрын
I never liked the telephone, so it does not mean much to me.
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me I'm more of a telegraph/pigeon man, myself. Some secrets are more trustworthy with a bird than a big mouth.
@MichaelDavis-mk4me
@MichaelDavis-mk4me 3 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzydunlop7928 A telegraph is the least secure thing ever though.
@Buffalax
@Buffalax 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell Indy has been wanting to bust out that Impersonation of Churchill for years.
@TLOK1918
@TLOK1918 3 жыл бұрын
Sounded a lot like Palpatine from Star Wars too.
@lordofthemanor4082
@lordofthemanor4082 3 жыл бұрын
I love this series because growing up you are left with the impression that the Germans completely dominated the Russians. Then as soon as the winter hit, the Russians immediately started dominating the Germans. this series breaks it down and shows that it is a lot more nip and tuck and competitive than i previously thought.
@tsaoh5572
@tsaoh5572 3 жыл бұрын
Cameron Elliott Well... yes and no. And yes. The invasion of the Soviet Union was simply doomed to fail. They could never reach the industrial Ural region before exhausting their resources and before winter (or actually even worse: Russian late-autumn mud) hit. BUT the initial period of operation Barbarossa was perhaps the greatest military (tactical) victory in human history. The Soviet army performed incredibly poorly and within a few months the Germans had occupied the majority of all farmable land in the Soviet Union - and killed many millions of Soviets, without losing incredibly much themselves. The Soviets had basically proven that their whole army and state was rotten from the inside, prone to collapsing. They made so many catastrophic blunders. I find it often downplayed how horribly led the Soviet Union really was, with often a total disregard for reality (for example google: Lysenkoism). Many Soviet policies caused the state to merely be functional on the surface. The Soviet leadership wasn’t totally unaware of this. They signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact to bide their time and reorganize their country. Likely, they were planning an invasion of Germany themselves, but were years away from being able to launch any kind of offensive. Hitler had been wrong though: rather than causing ‘the entire rotten structure to collapse’, the German war atrocities and overall brutality granted the Soviet central government the authority they needed to recuperate and reform their armies and many policies. BUT then again it is true that the Soviet army strength in the early stages of the war is underrated. Much of their material (infamously their tanks) was simply of higher quality than the Germans. Many of their divisions were also well trained and had seen battle before. Their industrial capacity far outweighed the German capacity, and they were far richer in important resources. Stalin’s purging in the 1930s caused this proper army to be led by horrible commanders and officers, though, which led to the horrible display of the Soviets early in the war. Hitler, on the contrary, hadn’t purged his army and his army was mostly led by highly trained, experienced officers. Some Russian men learned on the job during world war 2, others who laid low during the purges now finally rose through the ranks (like Zhukov), gradually diminishing the German advantage in leadership over time and showing the true geopolitical potential of the Soviet Union.
@aussie870
@aussie870 3 жыл бұрын
The Soviet Union's ability to wage offensives in the winter is down to their acclimatization. They are used to the cold, the Germans are not which weighs the fighting in the winter months in the Russian's favour. However there are still plenty cases being shown of the Germans being able to conduct successful defenses against breakthroughs even in the winter, contrasted with the entire Soviet front being on the retreat for a full 6 months without many successful defenses, even if temporary. So I'd be willing to say that the Germans as of early 1942 are much better trained and have far more actual combat experience from the previous three years of combat compared to the Russians.
@nattygsbord
@nattygsbord 3 жыл бұрын
The Germans did win many easy victories in 1941. In 1942 they continued to win, but things were not as easy as before, and victories was often won with large losses also on the German side. In early 1943 could Germany still win many battles, and sometimes show brilliance like in the earlier years. But after that had heavy losses made the German army weaker. Untrained men with no combat experience had to replace veterans that had died or been taken prisoners. So the German army was no longer a high quality force to the same degree as before. And the enemy had become much stronger, and they had learned to copy the best tricks in military tactics from the Germans. So now was the fight more even. And the war was probably going to end with a victory for that side with most men, tanks and resources. Germany was a respectable opponent. But the other members of the axis did not have the resources to be seen as equals with the allies. Italy and Japan was poor countries, with less resources and smaller populations than USA and Russia. And the lack of oil and food did not make the game easier to win for the Axis.
@MichaelDavis-mk4me
@MichaelDavis-mk4me 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that's the impression this series gives me too to be honest.
@mailman63155
@mailman63155 3 жыл бұрын
In a one page summary of the circumstances we can say Cameron's post is true. But that's all a general world history textbook can do... Give a sweeping summary of major events. That's why special interest groups' (black, gay, women) issues sometimes seem ignored, but also why we all have the power to go to the library to read on our own.
@brianhum8765
@brianhum8765 3 жыл бұрын
Churchill almost gets shot down by Britain's own planes. Response: "They failed in their mission". What a chad.
@onylra6265
@onylra6265 3 жыл бұрын
He really was. He fucking flew into France, and back again when it was already basically fucked and the whole airspace was swarming with enemy fighters (no real reason, maybe just to flex?); on D-Day he wanted to get on one of the invasion ships to see shit go down, just because; when the Allies were in Germany he insisted on visiting the front-lines (within artillery range) and when they tried to make him leave he sulkily wrapped his arms around the pylon of a ruined bridge. Always pissed, chain-smoking, and wittily dissing everybody right to their faces. Earlier in life he went to Cuba to 'observe' their independence war, but joined the Spanish to suppress the insurgents (nobody ever accused him of not being an imperialist arsehole), joined British cavalry in Sudan to suppress an Islamic uprising (like, riding a horse and slashing at people with a sabre), he covered the Boer war as a 'journalist' and got captured as a POW, then escaped, and re-enlisted to keep fighting in the thick of it, in WWI he resigned as an MP and went to war. John Cleese himself plays Churchill in this historical documentary: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ob9zZ5p1vrLVYn0.html
@HHindsight
@HHindsight 3 жыл бұрын
John "One eye on Straya, One eye on Japan" Curtin
@kiandocherty3589
@kiandocherty3589 3 жыл бұрын
You could say this may be Curtins for the Japanese.
@panzerofthelake506
@panzerofthelake506 3 жыл бұрын
Lazy eyes lol
@ninaakari5181
@ninaakari5181 3 жыл бұрын
He was wide sighted
@arclightredux6088
@arclightredux6088 3 жыл бұрын
He was a lousy PM.
@vishnusnair3698
@vishnusnair3698 3 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather's brother was one of the soldiers killed in Singapore in 1942 . RIP
@gunman47
@gunman47 3 жыл бұрын
May they rest in peace, coming from a Singaporean here. I shudder to think what will happen to Singapore in the upcoming episodes in the next few weeks...
@kingcobrajfsfan2543
@kingcobrajfsfan2543 3 жыл бұрын
He was a brave man
@sleppy_piggy
@sleppy_piggy 3 жыл бұрын
We’ll never forget their sacrifice
@adameckard4591
@adameckard4591 2 жыл бұрын
RIP from USA.
@Nmax
@Nmax Жыл бұрын
Humanity is thankful for his bravery and service
@jeremyglass4283
@jeremyglass4283 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that there is no joke skit at the beginning of this episode. The topic is one where full respect needs to go to the victims of such atrocities and the video's serious tone reflects this.
@Dostwyn
@Dostwyn 3 жыл бұрын
I recommend watching the German movie "Die Wannseekonferenz (The Wannsee Conference) from 1984. It's available on youtube with English subtitles. It's based on the protocols of that conference and gives you a good insight on how a bunch of guys around a table casually decided to murder millions of people.
@pastlife960
@pastlife960 3 жыл бұрын
Can you link it? Thanks.
@fincorrigan7139
@fincorrigan7139 3 жыл бұрын
@@pastlife960 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i7iDgbFm0tStYps.html
@kaltaron1284
@kaltaron1284 3 жыл бұрын
@@pastlife960 German: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lc-Vgc-byNDcYqM.html English: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i7iDgbFm0tStYps.html Not 100% sure these are the right ones.
@XavierY828
@XavierY828 3 жыл бұрын
Is the extermination of the Jews explicitly mentioned in the official minutes of the meeting do you know?
@fincorrigan7139
@fincorrigan7139 3 жыл бұрын
@@XavierY828 The minutes used non-specific language. The intention to implement the Holocaust was confirmed by Eichmann at his trial in 1961.
@Masada1911
@Masada1911 3 жыл бұрын
“Its not a spoiler. You know what happens” That hit me really hard
@james_chatman
@james_chatman 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many people act like they didn't know what happened, or just flat-out deny what happened.
@balcazar586
@balcazar586 3 жыл бұрын
@@james_chatman Communists are also guilty of denying what they did to Ukranians, which was the same if not worse.
@lycaonpictus9662
@lycaonpictus9662 3 жыл бұрын
@@balcazar586 Whataboutism.
@3xoticG4m3r
@3xoticG4m3r 3 жыл бұрын
@@lycaonpictus9662 not whataboutism. You just deny the other thing. Nothing should be denied. Every incident of murder and hate should he remembered. But we don't do anything. Uyghures in china suffer the same fate today as once the jews, irish, arminian, west africans and so on. But no one does anything. We just let it happen and in 30 years we act in youtube comments like we are so much better. We are not. Nothing changed.
@lycaonpictus9662
@lycaonpictus9662 3 жыл бұрын
@@3xoticG4m3r This video is about the Wannsee Conference and the decision to industrialize the then ongoing genocide of European Jews. Going into the comment and section and stating that the Holodompr was just as bad "if not worse," was whatboutism. Maybe that was not your intent, but it's a common tactic used by modern day fascists or Nazi sympathizers to deflect away from discussion of the Nazis' atrocities. Discussion of the Holodomor would be more appropriate on the videos devoted to that.
@gardreropa
@gardreropa 3 жыл бұрын
It's scary to think that the conference lasted roughly 90 minutes, if I remember correctly... a tragic day for humanity indeed. Never forget!
@robert48044
@robert48044 3 жыл бұрын
90 minutes to change the world forever
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it's no wonder. Some people are under the mistaken impression that the Wannsee Conference was an event where decisions were taken to implement the "final solution." It wasn't; the decisions had already been made. You'll note that the attendees, apart from Heydrich, were all mid-level officials. You have to remember how the government of the 3rd Reich functioned: Hitler deliberately gave his subordinates overlapping areas of responsibility, and often vague directives to keep them competing with each other for power and influence, and thus preoccupied with each other, no one of them could amass enough power to threaten him. But this could sometimes lead to the Nazi leaders frustrating each other's efforts to accomplish this or that project as they sought to expand their own power at the expense of their rivals. The Wannsee conference was organized to ensure that didn't happen in this case, and it was just a meeting organized to get all the various bureaucracies which would have to cooperate on the same page, so that the usual Nazi bureaucratic infighting didn't slow things down. It's horrifying that they cooperated best and worked most efficiently at something so unspeakable.
@Daniel-kq4bx
@Daniel-kq4bx 3 жыл бұрын
Just think about how disturbing this is. Its like a Buisness or school project but its a conference about murdering people. The pinnacle of Inhumanity
@scutumfidelis1436
@scutumfidelis1436 3 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-kq4bx Somebody should tell Morgenthau to cool it with the anti Germanic remarks.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 3 жыл бұрын
There was a follow-up meeting and many of the participants had meetings of a superficially similar nature several times a week. This was unusual in that the minutes were supposed to be destroyed - Luther's copy was the only one that was not.
@kskdtr
@kskdtr 3 жыл бұрын
when i was in Berlin visiting the Wansee Villa, i had the chills walking around the table were they had the meeting, reading all the place holders, and thinking about what they decided in that very same room... and reading on an information table "...and after they had a light breakfast" hit me hard... they did it like it was just business.
@duckdockdank5206
@duckdockdank5206 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the "New Episode" and clicked it so fast and said WUNDERBAR out loud then i saw the title and went "oh, oh no thats not wonderful at all"
@vittoriolepporio122
@vittoriolepporio122 3 жыл бұрын
This makes dillon laugh,
@AndrewH2791
@AndrewH2791 3 жыл бұрын
The Japanese were beyond beastly in this war.
@tigertank06
@tigertank06 3 жыл бұрын
That's Bushito for you.
@belbrighton6479
@belbrighton6479 3 жыл бұрын
Have you been watching the ‘War against humanity’ playlist too? I didn’t know about burning wounded soldiers alive. I knew about the Burma railway etc but Russel Bradon’s book. But not the conduct of some Japanese soldiers at that time. I am grateful to the Indy and Spartacus and team for the historical inquiries they do.
@maximilianolimamoreira5002
@maximilianolimamoreira5002 3 жыл бұрын
@@tigertank06 *Bushido
@ringowunderlich2241
@ringowunderlich2241 3 жыл бұрын
@@belbrighton6479 But you did know about dropping Napalm on villages, burning civilians alive, did you not?
@thebog11
@thebog11 3 жыл бұрын
@@ringowunderlich2241 Not exactly the same thing. The Americans in Vietnam and Russians in Afghanistan believed those villages housed military targets. They were generally wrong, of course, but there is a world of difference between dropping napalm on a village and burning alive a POW who poses no threat. This should in no way be construed as a justification for American or Russian actions.
@joshhairr9558
@joshhairr9558 3 жыл бұрын
We must never forget the price paid by millions and the depth of which humanity can sink to
@Silverhks
@Silverhks 3 жыл бұрын
Never Forget
@Tearsofsoil
@Tearsofsoil 10 ай бұрын
The last 2 minutes really had me emotionally... U r the best narrator I know of. Also, u rightly said never forget...
@muf3211
@muf3211 3 жыл бұрын
Heydrich’s end cant come soon enough
@stellarwind1946
@stellarwind1946 3 жыл бұрын
Not for the people of Lidice and Lezaky.
@tasosfran2791
@tasosfran2791 3 жыл бұрын
I am overwhelmed by the quality and the depth of your work. There are times that I ask myself how is it even possible to complete this task and how underrated this channel is. I think that everyone should know about you and that your work is a gift to humanity.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these very kind words.
@kaj4501
@kaj4501 3 жыл бұрын
The sadness in your eyes... this is too important to forget. Thanks Indy & the team.
@gunman47
@gunman47 3 жыл бұрын
4:45 When the trees and grass start speaking Australian: "G'day mate..." The Japanese: Cries of "Tennōheika Banzai (天皇陛下万歳)!" when the trees and grass asked them to surrender. Pretty sure that won't be the first or last time we will hear of the Japanese not surrendering easily.
@principalityofbelka6310
@principalityofbelka6310 3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure about that? The Japanese are now in full attack mode and it doesn't look like they're stopping any time soon. After all the Japanese are masters of jungle warfare right?
@TheGM-20XX
@TheGM-20XX 3 жыл бұрын
That's not Australian. "Oi Cunt, get in the back of the Ute!" - the last words Private Hiroshi Yananaba ever heard.
@gunman47
@gunman47 3 жыл бұрын
@@principalityofbelka6310 Well the funny thing is that actually many of the Japanese troops in the Malayan Campaign were veterans of the Second Sino-Japanese War, but jungle warfare was actually still something new to them at the time. It was just that they happened to use their veteran fighting skills to the jungle well better than the British and Commonwealth did.
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 3 жыл бұрын
*Pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew PING "Tenno heika banzaiiiii!!!!!"
@gunman47
@gunman47 3 жыл бұрын
@@yourstruly4817 Ah a man of the Garand culture I see :)
@FlyingDwarfzz
@FlyingDwarfzz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning Australia's situation within the British Empire in this episode. Although its taught by an Australian-centric point of view and that will certainly muddy the actual history, Australians are taught in school that moments like those described around 3:40 are immensely important in how our country was shaped after WW2. Australia, and Australians, appeared to be under threat of invasion, and Australia started pulling troops and supplies back from Britain, even though Britain itself was under threat. Australia decided that its own sovereign security was more important than the protection of the "Mother Country" and her interests, and that our own decisions needed to be prioritized to defend Australia. And when Australia was threatened, when Singapore was attacked, when the Japanese seemed unstoppable, it was the United States of America that was sending tens of thousands of men to Oceania to fight the Japanese - not Britain. To be fair, the British were kinda busy at the time, and they did what they could. My History Teacher summarized WW2 as the true moment that Australians stopped being British, even if only in heart, and became our own thing - and started a relationship with the United States that was more mutually beneficial than Australian/British relations had been for a long time. It makes me wonder whether places like India have stories like the ones Australians have about defending their homeland themselves when Britain couldnt. Im sure they do, but ive never heard them.
@porksterbob
@porksterbob 3 жыл бұрын
MacArthur would then do his best to break the new comity between Australia and the United States. India doesn't have the brave tales. Subash Chandhra Bose is a nationalist hero in the popular consciousness. Many Indians are bit embarassed that they don't have an independence story that involves shooting British people in the face, so Bose fills the gap.
@tsaoh5572
@tsaoh5572 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’ve been impressed so far by the Australian effort in the war. It seems like Aussie divisions were better prepared for the war than most British ones, with the Aussies being the only ones mounting a real defense in Malaysia and North Africa at the initial stages of Axis invasion. As for your comment on how history books treat the Britain - US - self-sovereignty discussion; I am from the Netherlands and even we have the same discussion to some degree. World War 2 marked the period where we became less dependent on Germany or Britain, and relied more on ourselves and the US. Although our national identity had formed centuries before, I believe the second world war did trigger our country to ‘wake up’ both culturally and economically after having been asleep for centuries.
@Darrenbatteson.531
@Darrenbatteson.531 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about canada
@bobs_toys
@bobs_toys 3 жыл бұрын
@@tsaoh5572 When you're a veteran of the Emu wars, the Japanese seem easy.
@3dcomrade
@3dcomrade 3 жыл бұрын
@@tsaoh5572 Well tbf. The reason we, Indonesians became free is due to the US to. We got our freedom, you got the marshall plan. They do know how to play politics
@Perkelenaattori
@Perkelenaattori 3 жыл бұрын
There's a really good English film about the Wannsee Conference starring Kenneth Branagh as Heydrich and Stanley Tucci as Eichmann called Conspiracy. I think it's an HBO production so it can probably be found there.
@halepauhana153
@halepauhana153 3 жыл бұрын
I have watched this film a number of times. It is excellent and riveting. It never ceases to amaze me, how a bunch of people could sit down over lunch, and casually discuss the elimination of millions of people, over a meeting that lasted barely an hour and a half.
@Solidoaf
@Solidoaf 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, gonna give it a go right now
@thegunslinger1363
@thegunslinger1363 3 жыл бұрын
There is also a German made film from 1984. Simply called The Wannsee Conference. You can find it on KZfaq.
@McDragoneer
@McDragoneer 3 жыл бұрын
yup, great movie on an revolting subject
@rosgill6
@rosgill6 3 жыл бұрын
outstanding acting in that movie. not sure it could be made today
@ethanhatcher5533
@ethanhatcher5533 3 жыл бұрын
No phone call uh oh
@maddiewadsworth4027
@maddiewadsworth4027 3 жыл бұрын
I know I thought what's going on there's no phone call and he looks super serious.
@Lukeee91
@Lukeee91 3 жыл бұрын
How's Dubois working out for you guys?
@kaga_me
@kaga_me 3 жыл бұрын
Tfw you will never receive a phonecall from indy... Why even live?
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought too.
@ethanhatcher5533
@ethanhatcher5533 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lukeee91 well, thanks
@merdiolu
@merdiolu 3 жыл бұрын
About the new offensive of German-Italian Panzer Army Africa (as it was renamed by Axis ) on 21 January 1942 and its immediate sucess , there are a few factors that should be considered. After the sucess of Operation Crusader and advance of 8th Army all the way to El Aghelia , British Commonwealth supply lines were over extended again all the way from Egypt and after heavy fighting and long marches both men and machines were exhausted , former needed rest , latter repair and replacement. Plus with Japan opening up attack in Far East , several reinforcement units slated to North African Campaign (6th and 7th Australian Divisions , 18th Indian Division , and at least eight RAF fighter and bomber squadrons plus additional artillery and especially new and improved 6 pounder anti tank guns which British Commonwealth felt a dire need in desert campaign) were diverted to holding India , Burma and Malaya. Royal Navy Mediterranean Fleet suffered heavy casaulties in November-December 1941 and Luftwaffe and Italian Air Force and Italian Navy with help of German U-Boats started a new and much heavier bombing/blockade of Malta in December 1941 so Axis naval supply lines in Mediterranean became a lot more secure. All these factors above played important roles in sucess of Rommel's Panzer Army before El Aghelia against recently arrived and complately inexperienced 1st British Armored Division (as Indy noted British generals had no prior experience in handling large scale armored formation or maneuvers till so far against battle hardened German panzer divisions under an agressive and very effective command. British learning that aspect of war on the job from hard way like Russians learning since June 1941 but in a much smaller scale) BUT real reason of British defeat on El Aghelia (and incoming routs in Battles of Gazala , Fall of Tobruk and Mersa Matruh till 1942 summer) was not due superhumanness of Rommel or Afrikakorps (though post war Western oriented writers wrote so especially British ones to save the honor of the army) neither due to because Germans were supermen or geniuses in warfare (Rommel took a lot of unnecessary risks in El Aghelia offensive again ) The real reason is relatively rotten command structure of British Army command in North Africa starting from Mediterranean High Command in Cairo to all the way to 8tth Army fighting in desert. British Mediterranean and Middle East commander General Claude Auchinleck was stubbornly selecting his own handpicked favorite officers despite their ineligibility to command the formations they were assigned (like current 8th Army commander General Ritchie who was very young , inexperienced , not ready for army command yet and supposed to command 8th Army briefly after taking over during Operation Crusader then handing it to someone else but Auchinleck kept him in army command since by doing so he could actually command field operations and interfare with battlefield decisions all the way from Cairo therefore unknowingly or knowingly undermining authority of Ritchie. In all operation and defeats afterwards till 1942 , no one under his command was listening poor Ritchie and there was a lack of command or existence of a command muddle and lack of authotity in 8th Army. Decisions in army was taken in comitee manner and orders of Ritchie were constantly disobeyed because he couldn't impose his authority) or despite their downright incompatence (British armored division and brigade commanders like General Strafer Gott who was very courageous on battlefield but couldn't figure out an exact working organisation of armor and Generals Gatehouse or South African infantry general Piennar who were both constantly disobeying orders) , and then despite their ineligibility or unfitness to command in field , Auchinleck kept them in their position due to "their loyalty" or "morale reasons". On that regard Auchinleck was also receiving and listening very bad advice from his own Chief of Staff Eric Dorman Smith who was more interested to prove his theories about armored maneuvere warfare rather than winning the war and recommending British armor or infantry to operate in small units therefore dilluting their firepower and effectiveness and making them easy prey against Afrikakorps (after the war Dorman-Smith became an IRA symphatiser) Constantly wrong British generals were being assigned to the formations they did not know or were not trained or experienced to command by Auchinleck and Eric Dorman Smith. For example commander of 4th Indian Division (infantry) General Frank Messevry was assigned to command 7th Armored Division despite his inexperience to command tanks. General Norrie constantly failed in command of armored 30th Corps during Operation Crusader but he was again assigned infantry heavy 13th Corps while previous commander of 13th Corps General Godwen Austen who actually saved the situation during crisis of Operation Crusader , reached Tobruk , repulsed Axis counter attacks and won the battle was relieved of command and sent back to UK. (Godwen-Austen only British commander who had operational sucess in land battle against Germans during Operation Crusader) meanwhile General Strafer Gott was promoted to command 30th Corps. New commander of 4th Indian Division General Francis Tuker ruefully noted about loss of Godwen-Austen : "His going was the latest of many misjudegments which had started to shake confidence in the leadership. We lost the wrong man"
@merdiolu
@merdiolu 3 жыл бұрын
Last and most importantly British Army still lacked a common operational doctrine even at this stage of the war . British armor , infantry , artillery , engineers , RAF still couldn't cooperate together efficiently and figure out a workable operational doctrine compared to highly lethal and well drilled Mission Oriented operational doctrine German armed forces and British still could not cooperate and lacked a firm hand to command from above. Every arm in 8th Army (infantry , artilley and armor) was fighting its own battle and RAF Desert Air Force was not even consulted by Auchinleck or his subordinates. British armor was especially a problem. Not only their tanks were still unfit for desert campaign (M3 Stuart tanks were too light and lacked range and British model Crusader tanks were constantly breaking down and mechanically unreliable due to lack of sand filters , only British made Valentine tank was kind of good for operations) but British armored commanders still in Napoleonic war mind set making wild charges unsupported by infantry or artillery or air force against German units which were faking a retreat and luring them to highly effficient and lethal German anti tank gun screens and trapping them , destroying British armored brigades one by one meanwhile leaving British Commonwealth infantry and artillery naked and defenceless. Until the end of First Battle of Alamein and relief of Auchinleck in August 1942 , 8th Army will learn these lessons slowly and from hard way. Due to neglect of British army during peacetime before the war , lack of funding and lack of maneuvers in 1920-30 era , there was no other way left)
@ivvan497
@ivvan497 3 жыл бұрын
Nice essay m8
@andyvalenzuela9763
@andyvalenzuela9763 3 жыл бұрын
I like how in the corner there are km and miles which move and resize with the maps... Nice touch.
@beanacomputer
@beanacomputer 3 жыл бұрын
This is the point at which the severity and sincerity of each episode starts to grow exponentially. The war against humanity just spirals out of any semblance of control from here on out.
@Snootyboss
@Snootyboss 3 жыл бұрын
I'm ashamed to admit that I've watched so many of your uploads and learnt so much more about different theatres and never left a comment. I absolutely love the uploads and never fail to gain a that little bit more understanding. A much overdue thank you! Credit where it's due!
@nattygsbord
@nattygsbord 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Even if I also have also posted very harsh criticism under this video. I learned much from Indy, and from Spartakus too
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you to both of you (nice to see a positive comment at this instance on this topic from you Nattygsbord). 😉
@sherirobinson6867
@sherirobinson6867 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent... Indy does a Winston, "They failed". Superbly done!
@pnutz_2
@pnutz_2 3 жыл бұрын
7:00 That could be quite a setback, I'm confident that the Allies will quickly recapture this port
@garygriffiths2911
@garygriffiths2911 3 жыл бұрын
I'm genuinely touched by Indy's - obviously deeply felt - reaction to the awful displays of sheer wickedness any worthwhile account of WWII must sooner or later face. I myself first underwent exactly the same emotions when - as a young child growing up in the 1970's - I saw an old British TV history series called 'The World at War' and was forced to confront the profound realisation that we Human Beings are quite capable of terrible things given the right circumstances. I've been attempting to reconcile that awful revelation about the nature of humanity with the mostly kind and humane people I've encountered during everyday life ever since. Alongside that profound capability for evil 'The World at War' also taught me that the Human 'will to survive' is a indeed a powerful force. A traumatised Concentration Camp survivor recounted how he'd done awful things in the camp in order to make himself useful and hence survive the day. It turns out that a Human Being will do ANYTHING to live another hour and that truth too needs to be remembered. That war teaches us that life is somehow both cheap and incredibly precious I suppose. Make of that what you will but whatever you do, never forget.
@greybirdo
@greybirdo 3 жыл бұрын
I also saw the World at War as a teenager, sitting beside my mother who had lived through it and lost her brother at Cassino. I can still remember the sad reverence in Lord Olivier’s voice when he introduced the series with Oradour sur Glane. That series was the turning point in my generation moving on from adolescent cynicism to start to see our parents as the greatest generation. Lest we forget.
@petedudson6671
@petedudson6671 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great series and had a profound impact on myself as well growing up. In NZ at the time we only had the one TV channel so nearly every kid in class had watched it. Also had family members and friends of family who had fought with the 2nd NZEF and as aircrew in the Pacific. Enjoyed reading your comment.
@nickthenoodle9206
@nickthenoodle9206 2 жыл бұрын
As usual, this episode did not disappoint at all.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick
@johnlarson111
@johnlarson111 3 жыл бұрын
my father fought in the pacific. Marshall and Solomon islands. he said "quarter was neither given or expected in the Pacific"
@legodrakie
@legodrakie 3 жыл бұрын
I know wansee is the name of a lake, but to me it always sounded like the Dutch word waanzin, which means madness.
@hobofactory
@hobofactory 3 жыл бұрын
The word exists in German as well, wahnsinn.
@kamilkrupinski1793
@kamilkrupinski1793 3 жыл бұрын
Very apropriate.
@emmano6340
@emmano6340 3 жыл бұрын
The conference of madness... yeah, that's what it was pretty much
@Johnny-Thunder
@Johnny-Thunder 3 жыл бұрын
Perekop sounds even better in Dutch. (Pear head)
@Darwinek
@Darwinek 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't (wasn't) the lake a popular summer tourism destination for Berliners?
@saltmerchant749
@saltmerchant749 3 жыл бұрын
Indy, I commend you for giving the topic under discussion the appropriate gravity it deserves.
@blahlbinoa
@blahlbinoa 3 жыл бұрын
"When freedom burns The final solution Dreams fade away and all hope turns to dust"
@nefasto11a
@nefasto11a 3 жыл бұрын
When millions burn, The curtain has fallen, Lost to the world, As they perish in flames. (Sabaton remembers, as we all should)
@khata_yaburyana
@khata_yaburyana 3 жыл бұрын
There was a country in depression There was a nation in despair One man finding reasons everywhere Then there was rising hate and anger The Führer's orders still applied Who was to be blamed and sent to die
@j.m.f5451
@j.m.f5451 3 жыл бұрын
Bracing myself for this week's WAH episode... will certainly be a tough one to watch, but we all owe it to ourselves to see it, so we may expand our knowledge of history and never forget it.
@wietse1113
@wietse1113 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Those episodes are always hard to watch. I never look forward to them, but I feel I can't in good conscience watch the rest of the series without watching these darkest sides of history too.
@TxCwby
@TxCwby 3 жыл бұрын
“Never forget”! And, yet, there are those who wish to erase it all. Thank you for your homework, and excellent presentation of this historically critical information. I have just found your channel, so much to catch up on... :-)
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan, we appreciate the support! :
@chriscarlone527
@chriscarlone527 3 жыл бұрын
Brings tears to my eyes when I watch this series and I realize the scope of the destruction this conflict brought on the world. Thank you guys a bunch for doing this. It makes me happy to be able to get to experience all of this history at one go.
@billd.iniowa2263
@billd.iniowa2263 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best series on KZfaq. In fact, it is one of the few really good things KZfaq has to offer. We all know about their broken algorithms system. But they can be proud of offering this kind of content to the Net. I just wish they knew it. Keep up the excellent work. You can be proud of your efforts.
@philip8498
@philip8498 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaqs algorithym was actively supressing this series for a long time. We can be thankful that indy and crew keep on wirking despite this
@CivilWarWeekByWeek
@CivilWarWeekByWeek 3 жыл бұрын
And thus the war gets worse and worse
@MikeJones-qn1gz
@MikeJones-qn1gz 3 жыл бұрын
It’s going to get a hell of a lot worse before it can end
@sladjanteodosin4607
@sladjanteodosin4607 3 жыл бұрын
@@MikeJones-qn1gz "I started this war killing Germans in Africa. Then France. Then Belgium. Now I'm killing Germans in Germany. It will end, soon. But before it does, a lot more people gotta die."
@leonidartemiev5668
@leonidartemiev5668 3 жыл бұрын
That solemn opening made me shiver
@williamdonnelly224
@williamdonnelly224 2 жыл бұрын
I stumbled across this series yesterday by accident, and have been watching almost non stop. Thank you so much for putting this together, so that amateur historians such as myself can learn and enjoy. Indy, you have a very scholarly and interesting way of presenting this material. It also seems, to my eyes at least, that you are struggling just a bit with your emotions whenever talking about the Holocaust. My mother in law was Filipino and lived through WW2 in Cebu, which is in the central Philippines. A few times she spoke to me about the atrocities the Japanese committed there. She said, somewhat bitterly, that after the war was over, Japanese officials tried to blame Korean conscripts for the atrocities committed in the Philippines.
@maciejkamil
@maciejkamil 3 жыл бұрын
After I read the title and when Indy said 'the final solution' I thought that this is a WaH episode, but hosted by Indy instead of Spartacus for some reason. Only after the Intro did I understand that I was wrong.
@pnutz_2
@pnutz_2 3 жыл бұрын
sparty earlier did a regular special instead of indy
@ikoko3
@ikoko3 3 жыл бұрын
It could also be a sabaton history episode. This specific one kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qsCjlKmUrODPlYE.html
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
We deliberately include key moments of the War Against Humanity both here and in the dedicated series to make sure that we don’t whitewash the war.
@maciejkamil
@maciejkamil 3 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo And I'm gratefull to you for doing so!
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of "never forget" here. History over the last 15 or so years show that we have forgotten. Or at least have forgotten how humanity could go so far; the processes that drove us to insanity.
@classyrassy1790
@classyrassy1790 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, its exactly for this reason my blood boils whenever I see someone try to defend Trumps attempted coup. His MAGA cultists are Nazi's and anyone who isn't blind and knows the history and character of the Nazi party can spot the obvious parallels from a mile away. But he was allowed to get away with it for so long cause people are more scared of being seen as "unreasonable" and "combative" then they are about fascists coming to power. Compare the reactions people have to anti-fascists VS MAGA's, very clear who people are biased against.
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 3 жыл бұрын
@@classyrassy1790 I have called them fascist for five years. But caught a lot of FLAK for it even when presenting the evidence. People are willfully blind.
@classyrassy1790
@classyrassy1790 3 жыл бұрын
@@PalleRasmussen Yeah, feels like most people these days are so desperate to "Own the libs" they will tolerate literal fascists.
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregorywade1559 Wat is a medieval English name and a Cambodian type of Buddhist temple. Anything else I can help you with?
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregorywade1559 I cannot say what you specifically has forgotten, but I can see that we democracies have forgotten the underlying causes and processes even down to Ontologisation and Potensation as well as the concrete ones, that gave rise to Fascism and Nazism. It is mostly in evidence in the US, but we all suffer from it to some degree.
@joncurtis199
@joncurtis199 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic deliveries again Indy. This may be the more important weekly episode yet.
@jimmyguitar2933
@jimmyguitar2933 2 жыл бұрын
Indie, I just stumbled on this series a couple of weeks ago & have been listening avidly ever since. I very much appreciate your "Just the facts, ma'am" approach with an occasional bit of humor (or a deft Churchill impersonation). And Spartacus' series is just as informative, if much, much more grim. He treats the horrifying details with the seriousness it deserves, and the humanity that makes it bearable. Never forget!
@hamtaroSUS
@hamtaroSUS 3 жыл бұрын
And again, thank you for not shying away from the more serious topics
@ISawABear
@ISawABear 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Props to pronouncing Bataan properly, my mom (filipina) was happy about that.
@alexamerling79
@alexamerling79 3 жыл бұрын
When freedom burns, the final solution, when dreams fade away and all hope turns to dust. When millions burn, the curtain has fallen, lost to the world as they perish in flames....Never again. Also Reichenau's death and the Wannsee conference is a fitting metaphor for the transition from Holocaust by bullet to industrialized killing centers.
@TWHueyGuitar
@TWHueyGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
Once again, Indy and company - great history program. You always know when to bring it back to reality. Keep up the tremendous effort.
@pg3384
@pg3384 3 жыл бұрын
I've never been so excited yet terrified for an upcoming video before.
@coppercore6287
@coppercore6287 3 жыл бұрын
It makes my stomach churn in revulsion the more and more I learn about what these sick bastards did almost a century ago to so many innocent people. Never forget. As uncomfortable as it is to learn about these things, thank you Timeghost for what all you guys do.
@Psychiatrick
@Psychiatrick 3 жыл бұрын
Vatican put Hitler into power Janus 30 1933. Once this went down Hitler concentrated the large corporations and trusts into State control. July 20th., 1933 VonPapen signed the Reich Concordat with Fascist Pacelli. Article 10 means a priest's geddup is a military uniform (enemies inside the gates of the cities). Once the Concordat was signed, Vatican permitted Hitler to print DeutchMarx with the large corporations and trusts used as collateral. Hitler loses the war and the collateral is turned over to the Vatican: I G Farben, Siemens, Mercedes Benz, Telefunken anon ... Now you know!
@ahmadhadi177
@ahmadhadi177 Жыл бұрын
coppercore6287 You're talking about both the Germans and the Japanese who committed such horrific atrocities,right?
@Nmax
@Nmax Жыл бұрын
The Nazi monstrosity is a culmination of centuries of European cruelty towards the Jewish people. Ghettos, massacres. Eastern Europe and Russia were notorious for programs and massacres. . The Nazis took it to a while new level of
@Nmax
@Nmax Жыл бұрын
​@@PsychiatrickThe Nazi symbol is a hakkenkreuz or crooked cross
@reginaldcrane4853
@reginaldcrane4853 3 жыл бұрын
The Japanese were the most Sadistic.
@mikebrownhill8955
@mikebrownhill8955 3 жыл бұрын
I think the red army wins that one Read about what they did when they invaded eastern Germany in 1945.
@MikeyD8716
@MikeyD8716 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, everyone involved in making this series is awesome at their job. Great work.
@voiden3338
@voiden3338 3 жыл бұрын
Great work with this video, keep up the great work.
@gidifihrer3966
@gidifihrer3966 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for using the word murdered when discussing the Holocaust not using the word killed which sanitizes the evil horror.
@Kay2kGer
@Kay2kGer 3 жыл бұрын
Never Forget
@ankitmahajan4036
@ankitmahajan4036 3 жыл бұрын
That h failed his mission and the world is suffering it's consequences.
@Kay2kGer
@Kay2kGer 3 жыл бұрын
@@d.watamate8231 jeah why is everyone so edgy here
@user-rr2eo9sk4w
@user-rr2eo9sk4w 3 жыл бұрын
@@ankitmahajan4036 we're still here and there's nothing you can do about it.
@ankitmahajan4036
@ankitmahajan4036 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-rr2eo9sk4w maybe tell me more. Something specific? I may be able to cure you
@roymartin500
@roymartin500 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing attention to detail on maps, writing & delivery!
@rocketman48
@rocketman48 3 жыл бұрын
great historical info,thanks Bill
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 3 жыл бұрын
You guys really ought to get a 48 star US flag for your set, given that was the current one during the war.
@jguenther3049
@jguenther3049 3 жыл бұрын
"Shining Through," the WWII spy movie, had a 50 star flag in an office. Easy to spot.
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 3 жыл бұрын
My father was a loader for one of the two pounder antitank guns at Bakri. He said the range was point blank - they could hear the screams of the burning crews. War is terrible.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 3 жыл бұрын
The two-pounder was showing its relative ineffectiveness - Japanese tanks were quite lightly-armoured but even so it was hard to knock them out unless they were close.
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevekaczynski3793 But the two pounder was the world's best hole-puncher for its size (37mm). It could certainly destroy Japanese Ha-Go tanks (and the Pk2 and 3 tanks that were the bulk of the panzer regiments in 1939) at range. The short range at Bakri was because of jungle conditions.
@michaelsaunders2648
@michaelsaunders2648 3 жыл бұрын
Thank God for you making these videos, making lockdown more bearable keep up good work team!
@ThroneOfBhaal
@ThroneOfBhaal 2 жыл бұрын
16:45 "We humans know our past, even when we're ashamed of it." None of this should ever be forgotten.
@OnionChoppingNinja
@OnionChoppingNinja 3 жыл бұрын
(no phone call) "January 23th 1942, the final solution" (roll intro) good lord it's gonna be one of THOSE episodes (IE another low point for humanity when we thought we couldn't get any lower)
@samuelgordino
@samuelgordino 3 жыл бұрын
Probably The low point.
@vksasdgaming9472
@vksasdgaming9472 3 жыл бұрын
It gets worse as The Final Solution really gets going...
@kayt9627
@kayt9627 3 жыл бұрын
There was a television movie made about the Wansee conference. It does a good job at getting across the bureaucratic nature of how the final solution was implemented. Everything seems routine and normal to the German command. It’s available on KZfaq right now, with English subtitles and all. I recommend giving it a watch.
@MikeJones-qn1gz
@MikeJones-qn1gz 3 жыл бұрын
There’s also an English movie on HBO same idea, it portrays the entire thing as a business meeting it’s scary
@icemachine79
@icemachine79 3 жыл бұрын
@@MikeJones-qn1gz "Conspiracy" made by HBO in 2001 and the OP is talking about "Die Wannseekonferenz" made by German television in 1984. I would definitely suggest "Consrpiacy" for English speakers. It drives home the banality of evil in a more relatable way for Britons and Americans.
@rantymcrant-pants9536
@rantymcrant-pants9536 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you guys are doing alright. Life busy serving up fresh strife while you all explore one of the darkest periods of our shared history. Love your work, thanks for all you do.
@georgegaiennie3747
@georgegaiennie3747 3 жыл бұрын
Great video - comprehensive and sober. You’re doing a good job.
@vksasdgaming9472
@vksasdgaming9472 3 жыл бұрын
This topic will make man sober or make him wish he wasn't sober.
@LightxHeaven
@LightxHeaven 3 жыл бұрын
The most infamous conference in history is finally being covered. I’ve been waiting for this exposition.
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 3 жыл бұрын
The tug of war in North Africa is fascinating
@tominnis8353
@tominnis8353 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely well informed . . . Brilliant archival footage too . . . . .
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom, it's only thanks to the generous support of the TimeGhost Army on Patreon and TimeGhost.tv that we can afford to access these archives. It really helps us bring history to life.
@printhelloworld1413
@printhelloworld1413 3 жыл бұрын
Great job! Love your work.
@rare_kumiko
@rare_kumiko 3 жыл бұрын
So the Rzhev meat grinder keeps grinding. There'll be more casualties for both sides on this area during the next year and two months than in the battle of Stalingrad. With regards to the Wansee Conference, I have to say that the WAH episodes so far have all been heartbreaking, and it's incredible that it's going to get so much worse... This war was horrible. Never forget!
@alexamerling79
@alexamerling79 3 жыл бұрын
Bleeding the ostheer dry...
@CallMeTheAnswer
@CallMeTheAnswer 3 жыл бұрын
I did it ! I finally made it from ep 1 of The Great War all the way to the front line today, nice to meet you lads !
@Martmns
@Martmns 3 жыл бұрын
Indy, i love this channel! Excellent material!
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 7 ай бұрын
That general who told Stalin he didn't like his plan had balls of steel
@clydecessna737
@clydecessna737 3 жыл бұрын
Bob Hope said at the time that Germans were discovering that "Crimea doesn't pay!"
@davidgriffin7649
@davidgriffin7649 3 жыл бұрын
You're a really punny guy. Underrated comment lol
@gianniverschueren870
@gianniverschueren870 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it's a tie or a fish around Indy's neck. 2.5/5
@gianniverschueren870
@gianniverschueren870 3 жыл бұрын
@@yourstruly4817 Congratulations, you can read
@gianniverschueren870
@gianniverschueren870 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffslote9671 Yours Truly has been badgering me about it for some time as well, and no matter how many times people (including the actual creators of the videos) tell him off for it, he/she just doesn't get the hint
@ahmadfairuzmohammed8101
@ahmadfairuzmohammed8101 2 жыл бұрын
as a native Johorean, I'm quite impress your pronunciation of the battle locations in Johor. Well done!!
@liortisson8007
@liortisson8007 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@odysseusrex5908
@odysseusrex5908 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like Stalin was, at this point, making much the same kind of mistake that Hitler began making a few months before, ordering his armies to capture every objective he could see on the map, regardless of if there were really men and materiel to do it. Was the Soviet term "Front" roughly equivalent to the western term "Army Group"?
@caryblack5985
@caryblack5985 3 жыл бұрын
Yes front is army group. Stalin was making a similar mistake in overestimating what his troops could do and underestimating his enemies.
@odysseusrex5908
@odysseusrex5908 3 жыл бұрын
@@caryblack5985 Thank you.
@docvideo93
@docvideo93 3 жыл бұрын
Introduced last week, Operation Paukenschlag heads south. Admiral Dönitz, had set up a line of 5 U-Boats to scout the North American coastline for the status level of the antisubmarine defenses from Newfoundland to Cape Hatteras, NC. While not the easternmost point on the US seaboard, Cape Hatteras is home to a series of sandbars called the Diamond Shoals which can stick out as much as 16 miles, 25 km, off the Cape. This is a well-known bottleneck for coastal navigation along the US and the storms along to two ocean currents nearby have given the water there the nickname, Graveyard of the Atlantic. Thanks to reports from WWI where Imperial German U-Boats sank ten ships in 2 weeks, Dönitz has U-66 stationed near the Cape. On January 17, U-66 sinks the tanker Allen Jackson just as U-123, having left New York City harbor, arrives in the area. On the night of 19th and running on the surface attack, U-123 will attack 4 ships, sinking 3, in what U-123's commander will call 'the night of long knives'. In 7 days, the two U-Boats have attacked 7 ships, sinking 6 within sight of the North Carolinan coast before returning to France. Over the next 6 months as more U-Boats hunt in the Cape Hatteras area, the Graveyard of the Atlantic would receive a new nickname from American merchantmen: Torpedo Junction. The 5 Paukenschlag U-Boats, with no causalities, will return glowing reports to Dönitz about the ease of hunting off the US Coast.
@scromtrulescent
@scromtrulescent 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode, and thank you for including the Wannsee conference into your coverage of the War. I would love to see some more coverage of the SS officer, Reinhard Heydrich; and his role in the Nazi hierarchy. From what I understand, he was the most senior officer at Wannsee... and an instrumental figure in the implementation of the Final Solution. I'd also love an expose on the Czech commandos that assassinated him shortly after Wannsee... as I view them as truly underrated heroes for all mankind. Keep up the good work, guys! You're really creating tremendously-valuable content that presents history in a compelling, new way.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
We've done already an episode about him kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jsuPatiK2bbOiZs.html
@nicknoga564
@nicknoga564 3 жыл бұрын
Great! You guys are the best!
@xboxisbetta
@xboxisbetta 3 жыл бұрын
The ending of this episode was so well done.
@w-james9277
@w-james9277 3 жыл бұрын
Im looking forward to your coverage of El-Alamein.
@j.e.clockwork3058
@j.e.clockwork3058 3 жыл бұрын
When a video's opening hits harder than any of the offensives in the war so fa- "It's not really a spoiler is it?" Ow, never mind... I'm gonna call it now, someone is gonna start a comment chain featuring lyrics from "The Final solution" when the war against humanity series reaches that point...
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 3 жыл бұрын
You're correct. Spotted a few OP's above you.
@biglos9d
@biglos9d 3 жыл бұрын
Indy I just found out you voiced Quaestor the Elf. Love it!
@gmshadowtraders
@gmshadowtraders 3 жыл бұрын
This video is blowing up! Congrats
@redarmy1698
@redarmy1698 3 жыл бұрын
Watch the 1984 film of the same name it’s script is the EXACT minutes from that record of the meeting. It’s crazy.
@primkup
@primkup 3 жыл бұрын
This is going to be a good year for Reinhard Heydrich for sure.
@ATINKERER
@ATINKERER 3 жыл бұрын
I think that in 1942 Reinhard Heydrich will win the much coveted "Creep of The Year" award.
@wetlettuce4768
@wetlettuce4768 3 жыл бұрын
He will be fine it's not like he drives the same route everyday in his convertable without an escort in occupied lands....
@vksasdgaming9472
@vksasdgaming9472 3 жыл бұрын
@Nihil Patel He's "Aryan" superhuman who kills to prove it. Of course he will kill those who dare to attack him.
@eskimojoe37
@eskimojoe37 3 жыл бұрын
Your maps showing divisional movements on the various Battlefront’s are some of the best I have ever seen! How are they made?
@mikenaydenov2971
@mikenaydenov2971 3 жыл бұрын
ah indy i really whis you where my history teacher back in the day ....
@sidmetall3771
@sidmetall3771 3 жыл бұрын
Im a pilipino i live in BATAAN Philippines. My late great grandfather was a Guerilla in times of japanese occupation of philipinnes
@billhuber2964
@billhuber2964 3 жыл бұрын
God bless your family.
@Username67357
@Username67357 3 жыл бұрын
I hate these episodes (The content, not your work!). Fuck, its so dark.
@Jake-rm4be
@Jake-rm4be 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. It’s disgusting to just how things slowly deteriorate into despicable evil. It gives it a whole new light when you go step by step and see in real time how they slowly descend into more and more cruel practices and the brutality they do it.
@andmos1001
@andmos1001 3 жыл бұрын
It’s gets worse.
@adelkheir
@adelkheir 3 жыл бұрын
It always gets worse and not the first time in history mind you. And it's not going to be the last time as well. From the Romans burning Carthage to the Byzantines nearly exterminating the bulgarians to the Mongols descending on the world like death to the European and later American settlers driving the native North and South Americans to near extermination to even more modern times of the Rwandan genocide and the Yugoslav wars. Humanity has always too eager to indulge itself into senseless slaughter for whatever reason it is justified for.
@theoneduckson2312
@theoneduckson2312 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the seriousness of the intro. No phone call. Simple the Final Solution.
@jonkline709
@jonkline709 3 жыл бұрын
Wow very well done. Very direct.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
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