A CONVERSATION BETWEEN FRANCIS AND THE CHIEFTAIN JUST BEFORE THE VIDEO GOES LIVE. Francis: Chieftain, would like to write the pinned comment for this or leave it to us? Chieftain: I'm happy to leave it to you. If I strenuously object to what you come up with, I'll be sure to let you know. Francis: Looking forward to it. THE END. Please read our rules of conduct before you comment: community.timeghost.tv/t/rules-of-conduct/4518

"The engine cooling system DIDNT." Lmao

For discussion on warships you should get Drachinifel. He’s good.

I think you guys should do a collab with Drachinifel on anything related to ships!

It's fascinating to me how we end up from the shitty panzer 1 and t-26 to the king tigers and the is-2 just in 4 years

Last time I was this early, von Moltke was still trying to capture Paris so he could swing east to meet the Russians in Silesia.

"Something of a failure to meet design specifications..." True lol!

I really appreciate that Chieftain, even though his focus is on armor, is very up front that armor alone is not the sole determining factor in a conflict. So many times, whatever a person's area of interest suddenly becomes the ONLY important factor in determining who wins battles, campaigns, or even wars (i.e. COMMANDOS WON WWII! YARR!).

It is surprising how creative the Soviets were in the manufacture of armored vehicles. Clearly the Soviet engineers were very good at their job.

When the time comes for warships, go to Drachinifel!

Trying to watch this episode of WW2 and an advertise from The Great War start.....I’ve seen everything now ;)))

Wow, I never knew Indy has a brother named of course Indy

Nice collaboration. Thanks for reaching out to Chieftain on this one. Reading up on it a bit, the T-50 seems to be a casualty of the complexity of the engine, the shift in focus to T-34 production, and more speculatively, perhaps the need to focus on putting radio sets in the latter. But man, what a beautiful vehicle, especially for an early-war light tank.

Okay, this is interesting. I just had an ad from The Grest War Channel for their new project (Rhineland 45) when I clicked to watch this video.

I like chieftan's doctrine videos, but this kind of editing is also something I really wanted out of them, thanks guys!

"The engine cooling system didn't" lol

7:30 The image presented clearly lacks the sponsons and sloped armor mentioned regarding the model 1940. That image is the earlier model 1938 mentioned just before 14:36 typo on the infocard, should say T-38 not T-36

At 6:52 you can see soviet Daniel Craig on the left hand side of the picture

I'd love to see a Chieftain video explaining what reconnaissance units actually did. I know it should seem obvious, but the actual day-to-day details of where they went and what they were looking for would be fascinating to me, as well as the chance to find out the difference between reconnaissance and "heavy reconnassance".

I love that Conrad makes an appearance (painting anyways).

I hope you guys start doing episodes on the small arms of WW2 by country like you did for the Great War channel soon. Using the guys at Forgotten Weapons/InRange and C&Arsenal again would work great I think.

Funny how the Soviets were busy catching up, the Germans were also noobs still... the US was missing out, the French are still cloning landwhale offshoots with single man turrets and the British... less said the better. It's _almost_ like no one knew how to design tanks back then. :P

So anyone about wondering Finnish T-50, it was not the only T-50 that was known to roam in Karelia but it was the sole example that was taken when Finns captured the city of Petroskoi (Äänislinna to us Finns) in October. But it was not until February next year that Finnish repair depots somehow managed to get it running (probably involved some voodoo magic) and as it was more spacious then T-26, it was employed as command tank. The crew would name the tank "Niki" although everyone else would call it "Pikku-Sotka", after the similar looking but bigger T-34 "Sotka". But unlike in this video, T-50 was not in Finnish inventory into the 1950s, mainly because the tank had suffered from catastrophic engine failure after leading a counter-attack in summer 1944 (quite famous counter-attack actually) and for very good reason the tank was never repaired. And if you wonder with that one picture with grenade hanging above the hatch, it was self-made imrovement to counter any sneaking infantry that tried to get too close. Unknown if it was used agaisnt anyone (friend or foe).

Can you imagine Indy, the chieftain, drachinifel, lindybeige and gun jesus all in the same collaboration?... that'd be magical...

Typo at 14:34. At the top of the side bar it reads “T-37A and T-36 fleet” when it should be “T-38” instead of “T-36”.

Thoroughly enjoyed this. Best article on Soviet Light AFVs in WWII I've seen in a while. Keep up the good work guys.

This one looks like a good one! A collaboration between two of my favourite KZfaq channels :D I can't watch it at the moment, but I'll be sure to stop by later 👍 PS - I've liked the video anyway, because of course it'll be good!

"Basically, Sherri's idea had to do with bringing Fat's mind down from the cosmic and the abstract to the particular. She had hatched out the practical notion that nothing is more real than a large World War Two Soviet Tank. "

Googly eyes on the round to the right.

A very good and interesting video, thanks for the upload!

I love your videos...avid fanatic from the philippines

Always love the details you guys get into!!

T50: *exists* Chieftain:" This puts a smile on my face"

Great video!

12:22 That's why in 1937 the Soviet tank designers started the A-20 proyect, which would lead to the heavier, better armored and more reliable T-34.

Excellent Episode Indeed Most informative and Enjoyable. The vast fleet of early War Soviet light tanks and armoured cars are often overlooked. We have two T-34 / 85's here in London one is in the Imperial War Museum and the other is in some ones back garden in East London which is Uber Cool!

Awesome video

I used to follow the great war channel a lot and I just found this channel yaay!

I've long suscribed to World War Two (previously One), Ghost Time History, but also Military History /(not) Visualized; The Chieftain; Military aviation History; Drachinifel (plus kings and Generals, Invicta, and asome others). And I am very pleased to see that it seems they got to know each other and made some collaboration. When passion and quality are putted in someone's effort, I think in the end it will always reach the people that are looking for it.

It took me way too long to realize Chieftan had a haircut. He looked off, but I couldn't place it. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GLORIOUS HELMET CUSHION?

A fun and informative video. I liked it. Hey Indy is that Conrad von Hotzendorf's picture next to your chair? Great video.

Did anyone else get a pre-video ad for the Great War channel's Reinland documentary? Looks like a lot of fun, and a lot of work.

Damn you Indy! I already had five great history channel's to which I'm addicted and now you just had to introduce me to Chieftain as my sixth. When the hell am I supposed to sleep? I hope you're happy!

Fantastic video, would love to see features for small arms with Ian from Forgotten Weapons, or Karl and also Ian from In-range TV.

The guy that does Dark Seas is good for warship special as well

Indy this is fantastic - thanks!, and thanks Chieftain!

Very informative.

Thx, both.

Tanks a lot, Indie!

nice video

Good one, thanks.

It’s so delightful to see those two military history giants in one video.

Very underrated!

Thanks for this.

T50 is cool. Will have to look into it more.

Chieftain, I enjoy your videos and was curious as to whether you ever did a modern tank design. You could give a preview of what's coming.

A great video.

That infrared was badass!

Are you guys going to do a gun special with C&Rsenal? I really enjoyed that from the Great War.

finns especially loved those flamevariant T-26:is on mannerheim line :P finns are known for polishing soviet stuff(ak-rk, mosin-m/39) but then we have the unsung hero of finland BT-42(Based on BT-7), vehicle that makes bob semple smile :P. Mentioning this because alot of soviet tank doctrine and tanks were tried in winter war period.

I like the stetson to his left. IF YOU AIN'T CAV, YOU AIN'T!

am i the only one who thinks that shell looks like a kerbal astronaut? XD if this is what he's going for, hats down to you sir!

9:50 "Had periscopes, but lacked cupola for all-around vision" Well, those PT-series periscope could be used for 360-degree observation (user's end remains stationary), as well as a gunsight, linked with the gun elevation mechanism. Thats a really advanced piece of gear for the time, and I don't know any other country using anything like it.

Very interesting! ❤

" Armoured cars, and tanks and guns, they came to take away ours sons...", oh, wait, wrong war, wrong region.

At 14:30 there's a mispell The T-36 is supposed to be T-38

14:14 - "The engine cooling system didn't," HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nicee, chieftain is here

You should work with Forgotten Weapons (Gun Jesus) he could tell us about the firearms used in the war

Very nice quarantine haircut there, Chieftain.

I like Chieftain's presentation persona.

The T-50 cost almost as much to produce as the T-34. Hence it was dropped.

You guys need to do an episode about Schwerer gustav heavy german gun they used in the invasion and bombardment of many countries in the begging of the war. Not many people know about this gun!!

I noticed on the shelf behind Chieftain is the most ferocious enemy known to man -- the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog!

Nice

Most of us who play games are here for this I mean... War Thunder, WOT, HOI4 etc.

Like this intro much better than you faking a conversation on the phone.MPOV.

Design on paper is one thing, look at the early T-34's...How was the quality of the those few T-50's made?

600hp out of a V12 in the late 1930s is very very good!

17:57 I see that picture of Conrad Von Hotzendorf. Least he didn’t design any tanks.

Hey World War Two gang! I was a fan of the videos/crossover that was done with the C&Rsenal guys back on The Great War channel. Any plans to bring some that back?

6:38 That's T-26A, with T-26B (45mm cannon) and T-26M (45mm cannon, upgraded armor and turret, ability to be fitted with radio) being more common.

5:55 man that T-28 is zooming

How I wish Chieftain could cover a breakdown on Indian Arjun 2 !! Wish this happen..

Indy is the greatest analyst & commentator of all time. Next to howard cosell.

Regarding the T-40S: Shall we assume that the "S" stood for "Sinking"? ;)

I haven't looked up the specifications on the T-50 though I had the impression it was not as effective as the T-34 (narrower tracks smaller cannon possibly less reliable). I shall reexamine it I just presumed it was another also-ran till now.

I need more.

Question for OOTF (I also put this on the forum but I figured I might as well also leave it here): It's interesting to see how different tank models would be given radios at higher or lower rates to each other. How did the Soviet Union decide which units received radios and which did not? Was it by model (e.g. BT-7s get priority), by unit (e.g. border units get priority), or something entirely different? Love the channel BTW.

9:45 The "model 1932 gun" was officially denominated "19k", and a later, upgraded version was introduced in 1941, the 20k, with same caliber but higher muzzle velocity allowing for more range and accuracy.

Here is a thought exercise for how the Soviet Army should have used their light tanks and armored cars in the western frontier zone. It was a blunder for Stalin to have deployed his Soviet Army forward onto the western border of 1939/40 in the Molotov line of fortifications hastily constructed. The Soviets should have kept their entire army groups center on the old 1938 border with the Stalin line. Cavalry units could have been deployed forward with some infantry divisions and armored trains from border patrol. If or when the Germans attacked, the cavalry divisions maintain contact but retreat burning the land as they go. Most of the western zone acquired in 1939 should have been stripped of industrial goods, raw materials, and people of military age. Farmers should have been allowed to raise crops but nothing more. So the old Stalin line of fortification should have been built up rapidly with slave labor and army troops working around the clock with minefields, field fortifications, pillboxes, antitank ditches, trenches etc. The Soviet strategy was to fight a defensive war when the Germans attacked, move their industry to the Urals, and mobilize their forces from the protection of the fortified Stalin line of fortifications. I am thinking about defensive belts 50 to 100 miles deep around Smolensk with heavy Maginot type fortifications around Leningrad and Moscow. The Soviets should have kept their light tanks assigned to their rifle divsions for infantry support. These light tanks could have been dug in all along the Stalin line with redundant fall back positions protected by trenches, mortar positions, infantry entrenchements and fortified machine gun posts. The light T-26 tanks if protected by earthen embankments could have served as "mobile defensive pillboxes" to augment the Stalin line and field works. As the Germans advanced through an area multiple redundant fallback positions are made for each T-26 or BT tank. These BT tanks and T-26 tanks are organized into tank brigades of about 3,400 soldiers with about 90 some tanks in them. These are attached to support Soviet rifle divisions or have Soviet infantry rifle brigades assigned to them. Soviet armored corps were difficult for inexperienced officers to manage. The T-26's and BT's tanks should have been broken up into small modular armored brigades attached to Soviet rifle divisions or at least had a Soviet infantry brigade assigned to them to fight together in a defense war multiple entrenched positions forming a defense in depth. These light tanks were good for defensive pillboxes to reinforce field fortifications for the Soviet infantry or local counterattacks against German Wehrmacht infantry. However, they aren't worth much else in 1941.

Like,Chieftain

Cool cowboy at the bottom right!

The 45mm is no joke and if the RA had supported their tank attacks, some frontier battles might have turned out quite different.

Arty - Queen of Battle, not King (that's infantry, I believe). At least I remember they called it that in a class I had to sit thru in Basic. It was shot (no pun intended) at Ft Sill, Oklahoma, home of the US Artillery school. Sorry to nitpick. Everybody's an expert, right? Great Video! You have an excellent speaking voice. Bol'shoe vam spasibo (Thanks large). Wrong about this. Chieftain is right. See below. My bad.

At 10:54 infared for night driving and I thought the Germans where the first to use infared on there Vampire system but for shooting the enemy at night late in the war. First Ive heard of this was it common place and only used by the Soviets. I had to pinch my self I've never read about or seen this.

an underexamined aspect of this war is the use of armed and armored trains especially on the eastern front. often they would have tank turrets mounted on them for protection armor plate added howitzers etc. its a warhammer gamers dream in fact.

Those armored card certainly remind me of Dale's. I can see Stalin having them drive through the Soviet countryside exclaiming "Exterminate, Exterminate" :-)

Nice shirt Chieftain. ALLONS"

Prior to the blood purge of Tukachevsky the USSR was pursuing a strategy best translated as "deep battle"; the basic idea was to penetrate the enemy line at multiple points, drive deep into rear areas and sow chaos among command and communications (HQ, supply dumps): implicit of course is the idea of inciting and supporting rebellions by various proletarian forces. This is why we see so many 1930s fast lightly armored and heavily armed USSR vehicles. Of course when Tukachevsky and his confederates were all taken out and shot the USSR no longer had the commanders whereby to institute deep land battle, not even at the battalion level(!) though at that rank the purge victims were largely internally exiled, not shot, unlike the general and even field grade officers. The only truly brilliant commander left was Zhukov I do believe he was already a general officer at this point. In any case he may have been spared or overlooked because he was stationed in the far east. Soviet tanks are in search of a doctrine or leadership from 1937 to about 1942. With the rehabilitation of lots of company and even field grade officers and the training of new cadre by 1942 the USSR can go back to and implement deep land battle.