10:18 - 10:30 Math a smart man!!! He's telling Ole boy remember this conversation? 😆

"Everyone wants to be black, but nobody wants to be black?"

These are the kind of conversations that need to take place more often in order to progress the understanding of true and actual race relations. No better place than a barber shop for it to happen. Love it!

Man I remember bringing black kids over at a young age and my grandparents were very weirded out. They never had seen Black People before because they came to America in their50’s. Lo and behold one of them ended up becoming my best friend since I was 6 years old and they ended up loving each other. My grandma would bring over treats to his house for Christmas and his Birthday and I didn’t even know sometimes. Makes you realize we’re all just human.

I'm just blown away with the lucidity, nuance and honesty in this conversation. It takes alot of lived, multicultural experience to speak so passionately and critically about the aforementioned issues, without coming off as detached and/or naive. Both men killed it.

Math didn't jump out the window like Mac did , he just dropped a clip with China Mac's own words that he CANT deny...Well played sir...Well played

Respect to China Mac for keeping it 💯 with what he was taught about African Americans. Most people would of dodged that question

China Mac basically saying instead of waisting time reaching out for support from other communities reach within and get the community to build and protect it's self first

China Mac is 100% correct. We have to get ourselves right before we can ask for help because others helping will ultimately be a crutch that will get in our way. The best thing the others can do for black people is get out of the way. Glad the others want to help, but only black folks know what black folks need. I say all of this from an former activist pov. Great video. We definitely need more discussions like this.

“Community is not a color or race”. ❤️❤️ thank you math

I love being black y'all can throw it away I'm going to pick it up #proud to be black 🖤

China mac right....most problems in the community are internal. We gotta learn to be independent n self sufficient....

I’m a fan of the show 💯 & im a native New Yorker born and raised still livin here today in my 30s; and I gotta say I’m a fan of what China Mac has been doing. Keep doing your thing China Mac. Math love what you doing brotha’ all your shows have been dope especially Method Man’s (my favorite) & Wiz… but that’s awesome to hear and see that you brought up China Mac. For some reason I just would not have expected this but I’m glad to see it. 🙏🏽✌🏾

THIS CONVERSATION WAS TIMELESS!! AGED PERFECTLY!! I THOUGHT IT WAS A NEW LOADED CLIP, FOR A FULL 30 MINUTES.. REALIZING I HEARD THIS SHIT WAYYY BACK...

I agree with china Mac people have to stand up for their own communities. Math’s outlook is the problem with black people now looking for help from other people instead of taking accountability and standing for ourselves first. If we don’t show solidarity ourselves as black people and unify we’ll never get anywhere

LOVE REAL CONVERSATIONS/ REAL INTERVIEWS /OUTSTANDING!!!

I understand Mac, as a hispanic, I educate my people first because they are not always receptive to those outside of their ethnicity

Great conversation. Math Hoffa pulled out the archives for this situation.

HOFFA!!!! Salute my brother 🙏🏾💯

What a beautiful conversation ❤ MATH put god first & always make sure your heart is clean. You can help a lot of us learn #NBL

I remember this episode. This was before Math learned to shut up and let his guest finish their sentence and tell their own story. Thank god for his growth. Perfectly timed clip drop to capitalize of the lil China Mac controversy. "Worry bout ya own people" is hilarious, petty but hilarious.

Great timing bro! Them archives come out quick! 🤣🤣🤣

Math said “Checkmate!” 😂

Like the raw ness of this conversation, the stars got a image they be tryna maintain

Facts I had to check myself at some point. Like why am I relaxed around these people but I’m on alert when I’m around people that look like me. That simple acknowledgment changes everything because now i look at you as my brother.

This here is one podcast to have an open mind to look at things from both points of view and not with emotions due to the facts that theres two different cultures that have try to live together just like others but theres always experiences from others that influence other peoples way of thinking

HOFFA has solidified his spot wit Gorillaz..

Great throwback and topic of discussion!

I was coming out of construction and a group of youngins were congratulating me for going to work. There's a reason for things.

YOU HAD ME NERVOUS FOR A SECOND MATH........NOW I SEE WHATS GOING ON 🤣🤣🤣 #readbetweenthelines 💯

this was an excellent show with a much needed dialogue...keep the bar raised high @Math Hoffa (I love that you NEVER STOOP TO THE LEVEL OF YOUR HATERS)

Born and raised in the south, we love being around our own black people. ✊🏾✊🏾

Can you believe these are the people that got an anti hate crime bill. When their the ones that teach their children to hate!! In the black community we don’t teach our kids to hate anyone, but to treat people how you want to be treated. Unbelievable!!

This level of petty is world class. Salute to Brooklyn 🤲🏿

This is such a big talk that those who lacking behind will never understand. We all need to all fight to be better human beings #fallenondeafears

This is an interesting interview. I think I'm going to watch the entire interview.

I thought this was new for a second. I was gonna' give Math SUPER props because that move would be the definition of business, all feelings aside. still the fact its not new doesnt take away from Math but that would've been hard

I stumbled upon this conversation and I wish I could have been sitting in one of those chairs. I As I age, I appreciate the events I have witnessed and lived through. The lessons I have learned. Dialogue is the key to correcting some of the ills we have in the US particularly when it’s about race. Math a lot of Asians regardless of their age are racists. Straight up. Cube rapped about it while in NWA. Latarsha Harlin’s case in LA. They have no reason to be, but they were taught by the media, the colonizers to fear us. They will until they get to know us. My best friend Is from Osaka, Japan. We met in college. I mean Yuki came home to Alabama with me and mom had her washing and cutting up collard greens for dinner. She explained that their are warnings given to Japanese citizens who are traveling to America for the first time. Also, if you talk with young people in Japan or SK, they will tell you the images of Black people in the media shape their beliefs and unless they study abroad they have a very negative view of us. Also, the entire world has problems with colorism. The standard of beauty in SK involves White skin, double eyelids, keen jawline, small face. If you watch a K-drama, you may notice in a close up the appearance of White powder makeup. They are known for their skincare products. A lot contain stuff to whiten your skin. They have makeup for men and women. Huge makeup and skincare line. They want flawless faces as much as possible. Plastic surgery is a must have in some cases if you want to work in movies and TV. If you are bullied in school too. The darker you are, the less desirable you are. May even be called a Monkey by and elder. The elders think if you marry a Black person, it’s shameful, but okay if it’s a White man. Young guys stereotype Black women, so women who move their to teach May encounter getting played. They just want a taste and they go through all kinds of hoops to try to get it. Africans who marry SK the female is in danger of being kicked out of the family. SK males too. Lot’s of 20 somethings when asked disavow racism and admit it exists a lot, but say it’s mostly with the elders. It’s all taught by the media. The majority of citizens have never met a Black person. China Mac has zero education about what it takes in THIS country for change to happen. UNITY Jewish and Black college students from the North going down South to help Black people register to vote. The young men were murdered, but they believed we needed them and that the fight for civil rights would have to be undertaken by more than just Black people. When these overt incidences against the Asian community began, some people commented ( I interact globally) on the difference between the response to racism against Blacks and the response to Asian hate. I made this comment: When you sit by and watch the injustices done to other people and do nothing but continue as if it doesn’t matter because it’s not you, what do you expect when it’s your turn. When you live in a White Supremacist country, Black people are one of the groups, but eventually the hate mongers are going to look at you. Eating in your restaurants, doesn’t mean a patron won’t attack you, you are not immune. Black people have been building bridges since well before we were born. Those relationships we built help us protest and fight for Justice. Whatever gain Black people make, it benefits white women and other races and ethnicities. Affirmative action helped more WWomen than us. Helped minorities. I do agree with China Mac that Asians need to fight for themselves because maybe if they do, it will extend to rest of the nation. I felt this way with Kanye. Jewish people have a pact they made in the 30’s. Someone come for you, is the same for us, so we fall in line and start using our power to show him, you are not sole responsible for your come up. Black people upset because they didn’t do that when he dogged out Harriet Tubman, minimized slavery, disrespected George Floyd. Jewish companies/Allies are not obligated to help us when we don’t help ourselves. We all over social media trying to really glorify a narcissist who “evolved” from GB is racist to talking about us and distorting our history. He gave the Proud Boys and other Aryan groups the co-sign. He validated their hate. Kanye is Uncle Rukus. He will turn on you for a dollar and a dime. WE should have checked him with our power. We have spending power. It was true 30 years ago and is true today. All we have to do is stop buying. Black men defending him like he is a victim. There are consequences to your actions. If we didn’t sit Kanye down, why should someone else? We give the queues. Everybody Black ain’t for us. Everybody White or Other are not against us. I learned we have to teach people how to treat us. Unity is the key. Read how the concept of race was constructed in the US. You will understand the need for Unity that you Math are talking about. #MATH I am subscribing and turning on notifications.

Salute to Math Hoffa, seeing that he wants to talk sideways 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾 #PleaseRemember

Fear for so long it turns to hate, everyone hates what they fear💪🏾

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Great job Hoff

Always tuned in Math. Love

Math really turning this KZfaq shit up 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

These conversations are golden

To speak about like this in this End of time in this life we live is key to well being and understanding divided can break us we need to work together and understand each other difference’s period 🔐

GREAT CONTENT 👍. We need to speak about the divisions that OTHER people have taught us.

Every episode is a gem! keep networking king 💯

This is so good!

Everyone instead of talking about what our community doesn't do, we need to just do work in the community.

Great conversation

Opened KZfaq and man math made my day with this one 😂😂😂 and plus math left the comment open 😂😂😂

3:32 props to Maff for checking himself. I’ve had to do the same brethren.

Math said why Am I uncomfortable around my Own People 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Strategic move Math. I bet Mac will watch the show again after this 🤣

This conversation needs to be on pbs or shown in a college humanities course somewhere. thoughtful and thorough on topic of race. Well done.

Salute to Math For this. Not only do You gotta call ppl out on there bullshit but u gotta show ppl there bullshit.

Don't worry Hoffa, we know the real! Ppl can only fake who they really are for so long! Salute

Salute to China Mac I hope y'all can settle y'all differences like the kings y'all are

1:12 My friends from NYC always give this reaction when Brownsville is brought up 😂

I've never appreciated petty like I do right here.... Salute Hoffa!

This is dope Shout out matt Hoffa I actually like his content specially hip hop related

Informative and insightful

I don't want to see two righteous brothers beefing... too much positive to be done in this world... nyc we don't need more drama RS! #spreadlove

We been stopped playing checkers 💪🏿 well played 💯

salut6e hoff! love you bro!

I'm from San Francisco... Born and raised... Grew up diverse. Went to school with everyone! Any and every race out there. I always thought racism was old news. Wasn't till social media that I started seeing it. I would tell people that shit is fake and this and that. They had to school me to what was going down. I'm saying this, cause I grew up with not a worry of this type of stuff. Now, so many folks are moving all over and this crap is happening all over. It's gettin wild even here. Really wish we could all just be koo. But this country loves division. I've seen so many things now that social media helps promote it. It's crazy! I've always lived life like I'm koo with you as long as you're koo with me.

Salute to China Mac & Math Hoffa.

I am very happy to see this interview! The only way to combat ignorance is to confront it and reason like adults who Actually want to SOLVE the problem!!!! Not just keep up the nonsense and BS

Yo, im glad ya'll had this conversation and learned some shit. I'm from the sf bay area and grew up in and around every type of culture you can think of. I can't imagine going through the world with such a skewed view of other cultures and how they view us, themselves, and others. Mfers need to talk to people more.

China mac father was an informant for the authorities against another Chinese faction in NYC. The paperwork is our there look it up. Says a lot bout this guy. Peace, Math!!! Love your channel and content!

Math, I remember when you was coming to underworld studios in Brooklyn.....way before all the podcast shit...salute

"WHO'S THE BLACK PEOPLE IN YOUR CULTURE?" YO MATH GOTTA CHILL 😂

I had a rebuttal for Math about the "coming out" perspective, but he hit that on the nail.

You can’t take care of nobody that don’t wanna help there self. Take care of yourself. That’s all that matters. 2023

Was his point THAT hard to comprehend???? Self-reliance first! Every single community needs to practice this. I am at a lost why Mac had to explain and defend his position so many times. He's absolutely right.

This shit is 100% These conversations need to be had

Great conversation!

China didn’t say anything out of line and kept it 100

Yeaa this is a full blown CHESS MOVE. Salute to you Math🫡🫡

Math turning into Hov in front of our eyes😂😂😂

I appreciate his Honesty he could’ve sugarcoated it, but he kept it real,I salute china mac.

China Mac is right 100%!! A person needs to fix their home or community FIRST before outsiders can join in. The source/the people need to be on the same page first before others can help.

Shit crazy Hoffa the more money you get the more hate you get! Niggas wasn’t hating like this last year..soon as the bag going up all of a sudden new devils popping out! Keep winning bro

"This shows how two men from different ancestoral backgrounds can have a conversation on a difficult subject in today's society".

Great topic…Would love to be present during this Conversation.

the issue there having in this video is the meaning of community. MAC IS SAYING THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, MATH IS TAKING THE WORD COMMUNITY AS MEANING RACE. MAC WASNT TALKING ABOUT RACE, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ((ALL)) PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE. WHICH HE WAS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT💯

People forget he's a battle rapper at heart 😂

Very Interesting topic for once

Shout out math Hoffa and China Mac remember watching yall on respect life

Bro's facial expressions behind Mac are priceless 😂

I remember this when it came out. Salute China Mac for having Authentic convo that other folks aren’t having.

Big Ups 2 China Mac!!! You held it down my dude!! Its bigger than what the eyes see plus 2025 is the year the big showdown happens nah mean! prepare for the ENEVITABLE...

Both sides are understood, good convo🔥🔥

Bro we need more from this one.🙏🏾🔥

What China Mac said is true! Even Yeshua said I've come to the lost sheep of Israel, basically my people. Black folk always looking for help from the outside instead of saying we have the power to stop this ourselves if we stand united against drugs, rapes, murder, robbery, trashy neighborhoods and schools etc. Taking accountability for your own actions.

Math we need you back in battle rap you was one of my favorite but keep doing your thing bro 💯💯💯💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

This was heavy math!! You dropping nukes!! Keep evolving !! We sre you!!!

Hoffa dug in the crates for boy to remember his words in person lol

This was how China Mac was suppose to respond to Hassan. Salutes To Math for setting an example of how you handle someone talking down to you. Why fight Hate with hate if you hate the hate

Hassan Campbell gonna go in on the next live 💯✊🏾, China definitely watched that live & took notes on how to go about this interview, shout out to Math man 💯👊🏾