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Hi! Delivery station warehouse worker here :) (I did 1 flex shift before I switched to warehouse and I wasn’t having it LOL). I’m one of the people who put those bags together and then build the carts that you load your car with. The only thing Amazon takes into consideration is how long your block will take. If you’re driving far away, then fewer packages. If you have a super close route, 40-50 stops. The mileage and cost of gas isn’t factored into profits; only time if that makes sense. But I can confirm that the DSP drivers and actual Amazon van drivers also get far away/crappy routes. I hear them complain about it all the time. They also have to return their undeliverable packages and when I scan them, I see they’re far away as well. So, really not sure the algorithm that decides which packages flex drivers get vs. Amazon van drivers. Just be nice to the warehouse workers because we don’t try to screw you over with far away routes. It’s just that we grab the first 3 hour cart we come across so we can get all of you in and out in the 30 minute block before the next wave comes in :) I don’t like getting cussed at for things out of my control lol

they should definitely let people know beforehand that it is a faraway route and offer more pay just for it being far away as incentive for people to actually acknowledge that they know what theyre in for and accept it

AMAZON NEEDS TO PAY FLEX DRIVERS MORE! Amazon have the nerves to flag you late knowing the delivery runs is so spread out from each other. And also the time spent at the station getting the packages, we can’t forget the congested traffic you may be driving in.

I do believe tho that Amazon needs to pay more for farther distanced deliveries. And depending on the load too. It would also be nice if they told you at least the city in which your delivering, so you could plan accordingly

From running one shift with them I figured out that they give the flex drivers the worst routes to save money for their drivers. I had a horrible first shift and I probably wont do it again.

i've been doing it for a week and can confirm over here in Detroit we just load up what we got and then go

Did my first one a few days ago, 4 1/2 hour block. Took me ridiculously far away from not just home but from the warehouse and through 3 cities for deliveries. Ended up driving 159 miles total, spent a little over $45 in fuel and the block only paid $76 (it was all that was avail pay wise at the time, about 9 jobs paying same for the same time) Since I wanted to try it out I took it but of course, had no idea the route until they rolled the cart out for me and I scanned the paper. Ended up taking me closer to 5 1/2 hours with 47 stops. (many of those stops having 3-4 packages) Not doing it again here unless they start pushing better payrates in my area, been waiting days and the highest I have caught glimpse of was $98 for 4 hours 30 minutes. Definitely would not cover bills not to mention wear/tear on the vehicle such as tires. (posted this on another vid) came to see if it was a 1 off or typical scenario being new to the gig.

Thank you 😄 your explanation was helpful & easy to understand. Yes I feel your pain.

Hey Mike,I'm in Portland and used to do Flex. I stop doing it exactly for the same reason you are talking about. Also they send you very rural areas where virtually no roads. I had to toe road places with my BMW 320. You are correct, all the best route goes to the Amazon Vans. Very disappointing to be honest.

Oh and a tip for the routes where you get nothing but un-numbered/sorted boxes, e.g. you see something like "UP123A" if you go to My Itinerary and scroll up until the drop down menu shows the Refresh button and a little bar code symbol. Press the barcode symbol and scan the QR code closest to the address and it'll tell you the order in which the route has you doing it in. I always use it to write my numbers to save time looking for a package. So instead of looking for a "UP123A" you can sort it as 1,2,3,4 etc..

Hi, good info I’m thinking about doing Amazon flex. You helped me on how to start. Thanks

An occasional bad shift is going to happen for any kind of delivery work so you just have to be able to deal with it

You can also consider a stat that will go great with your Shift Summaries for Amazon Flex blocks. Record the ACTUAL work time you do for the blocks. A Mileage app usually records your business driving time. Most of the time you can finish earlier than the block time. I go based on that when I calculate my hourly rate. Generally, Amazon pays $22 per hour. But with the real work time that I do, I make an average of $35 per hour.

So I deliver for Amazon as my day job and you absolutely can reroute. If you click on your itinerary the click map you will see exactly where your stops are in relation to each other. Then do them in whatever order you wish. I just did my first flex block yesterday though. But like I said my day job is with a DSP so I have done hundreds of full day routes

Also wanted to add I have done a few deliveries for them they'll put you in a certain area and you deliver anywhere from 17 to 30 packages in a 3 3 1/2 hour time pay is similar but I've had drop offs that are right next door to each other 3 minutes down the road my farthest one has been 25 minutes away. Why not give them a try!!

here in norcross in atl you go inside and pick up your basket take it to your car and once you are done scanning your packages you can head out and start delivering.

Glad I watched this today will be my first block and I don’t have a Tesla or vehicle ran off water well not yet

I’ve done flex since 2017 and it’s became progressively worse. Waiting to leave is another example of how it’s deteriorating. Also, I always reroute my blocks

I've done my Amazon flex for about 2 months now. Very easy with great routes in my area and always finish my routes at least an hour early. I enjoy the drives and have no issue with it.

Im in Pittsburgh too. I had the Butler drive from Swickley. I had everything in Butler though 24 packages 4 hours

Here in Arizona , I have the same situation is times the you don’t have options because they assign you the route but when you have the option stay away for those routes . Also every time the I have the option to reroute my trip I do it is no a problem

Try doing routes in Denver Colorado. Some routes need a 4x4, especially in the winter months.

I’ve had one like that. Went from one town to come back past the station and go to cites over

I’ve been to two warehouses where I live. The first one I went to had the cars line up like you described , the second one we actually go in the warehouse to get our packages and then leave once we’re loaded up. I guess it depends on the warehouse.

And yes Flex drivers do get the odds and ends type of deliveries, they aim to keep the DSP drivers with as much of a grouped route as possible, i know they try to do the same for flex drivers but it's really difficult because the DSP driver has most of it already. Also if a certain area has a higher volume Flex drivers can easy a DSP driver's load by doing deliveries on their route as well. There's been many times I've seen flex drivers delivering on my DSP route too

Depends on the station you go to as when you get to leave. I typically only take routes that are 30hr+ and rarely take anything above 4hrs. I don't get very many crazy routes many times I have only 20 stops for $100+ but I only work stations that send me to residential areas and pay high. You can deliver in any order you choose just go on the map screen and click the stop you want to go next I do it all the time. You only can get dinged bro if you deliver after you schedule ends not when the package is due I have been perfect standing for 5 months now.

Yes we can re-route in Jxn MS. We only deliver in our metro area. If your are out of the area they mail it with USPS.

Hi Mike, I second John Fanning's suggestion.

ive had a 3 car grid at dpp1 before. also you can go to initiatory click the stop you want next, also i wont accept anything under 88. overall amazon isnt bad, you can tell right away. if your cart is full your getting 40 stops, if you only have 18 stops your more then likely in a rural area.

plymouth MA , yes have to wait, although they will start letting us go once 3/4 done

They should seriously work on their logistics and let people know the package count and location area, this happened to me and even though I only had 8 packages they were all almost an hour away from the wharehouse😑🤦🏻‍♀️. Thankfully they were all in the same vicinity.

Here in west palm beach-Miami area. They sent you as far as 1:30 hours (40 miles or 50 miles from the warehouse)

Amazon flex is getting rough now. They want more done for less money 😱😱

I felt your pain 🥴 and gave you a thumbs up

I feel your pain!!! Been there... Done that...and got the T Shirt lol. I am back in the Philly market again now thank goodness. You have to re-route it and don't go out of your way to deliver a time specific package just stay on course. In this area we don't wait for everyone else to load and launch. DPP7(S) is less stops, more stacked stops, and local, but I don't think they surge much but you're always done early DPP1(C) always is completely random and alot of Valencia, Mars, Butler, New Castle which blows....especially on the back country roads and the hills and mountains 🤦‍♀️ Tell everyone on the 5p-9p at DPP1 Sewickley that Stephanie from Delaware says hello 👋 that I miss them but not those Routes 😄 they'll know exactly who you are talking about

I've been doing Amazon Flex for a couple days. I do agree not knowing where your route is until you scan that cart is a paint point. It's a challenge for me because I drive an electric vehicle that I usually keep at 50 - 60 percent charge. So in order to be ready to work I have to make sure my car is at least 90%.

It can take almost 40 minutes for me to get from station to my first stop depending on the route and I'm a DSP van driver. We also get called back to station around 7:15 and sit in traffic for another 45+ minutes to get back to station. Generally don't get loaded up til 10:30-11:00. 150 grouped stops, 300+ packages. If a DSP driver has to return undelivered totes they will often construct a Flex route using those the following day.

Hello. I deliver in Vegas. One warehouse allows us to leave when we are done unloading. The other warehouse makes us wait

I do same day delivery for flex and we come and go as we please. No waiting for others. We also have to go inside and then return our cart.

I did Flex on the Gulf Coast from 2017-2019. I finally stopped when they would give us a route in the next state(s) over. Literally driving a couple hundred miles. I rerouted almost every batch to work best for me. Couldn't imagine how bad it is now...

You should’ve delivered that Pittsburgh one that had the 5pm deadline first!

I did my first flex gig yesterday don't think I'll be doing it for a while them apartments are a time killer and leaving the building stuck in traffic for like 40 minutes whew them amazon lockers are a head ache too

This is why I quit Flex. Believe it or not, it can be worse. Much worse. Try being sent out over an hour to extremely remote locations in the desert with dirt roads that honestly require a 4x4 to drive on.... And then picture yourself creeping up to a property with no homes around for miles, in a regular sedan, that isn't marked "Amazon",... I never felt so unsafe delivering before in my life. One home owner came out and aggressively asked "who are you?! What are you doing here?!" Some of these dirt roads were horrendous and scraped the hell out of the bottom of my car and I almost got stuck trying to get across a particularly bad patch or dirt road. I for sure did some damage. By the time I was done it was really dark, I had no reception, and my car was completely covered in dust. Never again

You can reroute it by simply going to you itinerary and pick which drop you want to hit first.

No, I'm a DSP Driver and sometimes my stops are spread out like that. Mainly in Rural Areas not so much residential. You may have had replacement orders that have to be delivered.

You don’t get dinged for delivering after 5pm if your shift ends at 6. It happens to us all the time at Sub Same Day. Most our packages we pick up already show up as late. No dings unless you deliver after your shift end time.

I used to do 50/50 Amazon and Instacart. Because of the terrible $ to miles Amazon pays I only do 1 or 2 a month now. I have been to 7 different Amazon warehouses and only 1 usually has the lowest miles driven per shift.

I worked for the post office 7 years and had to work with parcel post, I work the midnight shift and had to empty out postcode full of packages. We had to put the packages according to the address and had to sort it out for the driver in the morning their trucks would be full of packages and they would take a little time to see what they had and go out to deliver.

Here in Orlando Fl .. we load and leave right. Away

I feel your pain lately all I been getting is low packages low pay and high miles

Smooth in indianapolis…we walk in warehouse check in really smooth load up your car and leave immediately

It varies. I'm in Houston and each station is different, in one station they have the cars lined up like u stated in others u park and simply organize the packets and leave when u r done. Another thing is in some warehouses u scan each packet before u leave in others u just gotta organize the packets because u simply have to scan just the barcode and automatically scans all packets rather than doing it one by one

Remember what you said you said YOU HAVE TO. You don't have to do anything unreasonable. I would just re route it and then email them and escalate it even go on social media and @them. They thrive off making people feel guilty and exploiting them with the standards rubbish.

Love your videos Mike, thank you for the work you put into them. These companies like Uber and Amazon etc should pay miles for drivers who use their own vehicle on the return when its far out. Or... they should pay a minimim per hr. I do feel your pain

Yes, you can absolutely re-route yourself! I do it every block.

I was sent to Butler/Mars from DPP1 with 46 packages. Worse roads and driveways possible with minimal maintenance. I had to quit after delivering half the route because my car was getting damaged from bottoming out, so I called emergency support and they sent me back to the station. Employees were extremely rude about the situation but I still got paid (ended up getting paid double after pleading my case to support) with no effect on my standings. Also that routing was awful for you, no one should have to put up with that.

The warehouses I've gone, we get in line to pick up a large, heavy cart that's a little far from the parking lot, then after we are done loading our vehicle, we have to walk back to the warehouse to drop off that heavy cart, AND we have to walk up and down a long, angled ramp with the heavy cart. Half my energy went on that process alone. Also, very time consuming, even when going 15 minutes early. That process alone was approximately 25 minutes, but because they often gave me packages that weren't a part of my route, I had to take even longer to scan them, try to find someone who knows where a scanner might be, then they had to do something on their computer, then they had to do some stuff on my phone, but I had to wait in line first just to return those packages that were not a part of my route, all before leaving to finally start my shift which was usually not on time, and I was always late because of the beginning process. They don't take any of it into consideration, so my score for my performance was always affected. I was on the below average range.

Wow... I had my first block Tuesday for 4.5 for 142.00 went to the warehouse and sent me home paid...Today 4.5 for 124.00 and boom 55 packages all local took every bit of time. Thank for video...not much training on app navigation

I feel your pain. I've had blocks where I've driven 100+ miles and it took an hour just to get to the first stop. I take the good with the bad because I've had a lot of good blocks as well. I usually finish my blocks early. One thing I always do is go to today's itinerary after i finish picking up to look at the due times on my deliveries. That way I can route myself to do everything on time and not zigzag all over the place. Amazon sometimes likes to have fun and put packages that are due first right in the middle of a route.

I'm currently running 40 hours a week doing flex. I tent to like the spread out loads. They at least dont uasially suck like the downtown phoenix / scottsdale loads. I had a load just yesterday that gave 40 packages and each and every one of them was a pain to deliver. I literally had to climb fences, beg other people who live at these locations, and bribe doormen to get the whole list delivered. The 5 hour block had only 13 mins left before end.

Have never had to wait for anyone else here down in Phoenix

A few things. Done Flex a few weeks now. Two different locations in the Midwest. Each are about 20 minutes from my home. I drive a 2018 Mazda 3. So an economy sedan. With routing, I'm going off to small towns and homes out in the middle of nowhere more often than not. The furthest I've been sent out is about 40 miles away. The closest I've had was about 6 miles, heading more into the city. That's my first destination. Not the total drive. The longest I've had in one trip was about 140 miles round trip (from my house included). Which sometimes is in my favor if the area I go to is closer to my house than the warehouse. One big issue I have is I go down dirt/gravel roads pretty regularly with Flex. Now I don't mind THAT much because I slow down to around 30MPH on them and have plastic guards in the wheel wells to prevent any denting and all, but it's still uncomfortable if you care about keeping your car pristine. And sometimes Amazon will happily route me to roads that are not passable with a normal car (think old farm roads that are muddy and you'll sink into in anything other than a tractor or wide tire pickup). This leads me to have to detour and support will NOT mark these roads as impassable for future drivers. Also I have poor reception regularly, if not outright a lack of service. This isn't so bad as long as you don't make the mistake of closing out of the Flex app or try to reload it in those areas. Otherwise it won't load back up until you have data again. So don't play around with your phone in those areas! At one station when I pull up, they don't check IDs and will quickly lead you to what lane you pull into as soon as you're able to check in. They have much lower volume than the other location and this leaves neighbor lanes wide open that you can leave at any time when you're loaded. At the other station I'm at, they tend to have three lanes they use at a time mostly or I keep getting lucky next to an open lane. When you're loaded and there's cars in front of you, sometimes an attendant will move a cone to the side and let you out from the next lane. Sometimes not. But I've had more of an issue with that location checking people in much later than the other (you can usually check in 15 minutes before your time and start loading. There, I'm usually getting in to load right at my time or after). Number of packages? I'm usually getting about 40. Sometimes this is really easy to fit into my car. Sometimes I have a particularly big package or two that I have to work around or throw in the trunk. I've only had one time where I couldn't fit everything because one package simply couldn't fit in any of my doors or the trunk. The staff simply removed the item and I moved on (the staff can be wildly hit or miss on being quick to help). I did have one time the route scan didn't work. This was my second time going and the guy comes back with two packages and says "today's your luck day" and it took me a half hour to get those done and go home. That was also the best paying day I've had to date ironically. Alright. The routing. More often than not, it's best to leave it alone. But you CAN change which delivery you're on. So Amazon likes to send you to the furthest location and work your way back. And while this may bug some people, there's good reason to do that and it will make your return trip a little shorter. Does it save time? Not really since it's still the same loop. But there's specific reasons. Also Amazon might seem to be sending you on a zig zag or circling around an area. The reason is it's trying to route you doing right hand turns. Long story short, it's found that doing right hand turns is faster than left hand turns and is a technique all delivery companies use (FedEx, UPS, DHS). That said, I've had deliveries where it's trying to route me to the furthest location last when I'm closer from a sooner location and I've rerouted to grab that one. It'll look like I'm taking longer on Amazon's records, but sometimes it does like to leave you further out from your return trip on that last drop off. Oh, how to access that route? When you start the route (or anytime really), swipe from the left to right. You should get a menu. Select "Today's itinerary." It'll list all of your deliveries. But you can select the map on the top tab and see where you're going and in what order. From here, if you want to reroute, you can select a different location in either the map or the list and head to that. Just be warned, it will continue to go down the list where you jumped to. So if you're on delivery 3 and you skip to 11, it's going to send you to 12 next. So make sure you go back to 4 and on when you're on a good way to it. Otherwise you might be far out and stuck having to go back for them. But again, I leave it alone in most cases. Sometimes I'll be passing right by another stop and I'll reroute to that, but know that when it does that, it means you're coming back down that road and it's sending you to the further stop first and grab that one when you come back. I'm suspecting the Flex deliveries are more same day shipping and just generally picking up the slack. There's a serious shortage of drivers (truck drivers and otherwise), and demand for deliveries is only skyrocketing. So that's where Flex drivers mostly come in. I never noticed the "deliver by" time. I've had the app say I've had deliveries that are late and to call the customer to ask if they still want it. I called twice and both customers were mystified why I was calling. Of course they want their delivery. If they didn't, they'd cancel it. With that in mind, I haven't bothered calling any others. Maybe not what we're supposed to do, but I feel I'm more annoying the customer with asking than anything. Support. They're often pretty useless. Had a hub I delivered too (those things are both weird and neat). Two of the four packages I had, the doors didn't open, I guess because they were frozen closed (it was pretty cold that day). I finally got a third one in by trying again, but the fourth refused to be recognized and my app was saying the package was "missing." I ended up just taking it to the apartment itself because I thought it was insane to bring it back and have it go out tomorrow at best. I called support for all of this and they sounded completely lost on what to do. I also got an email a few days later reminding me to return undelivered packages (I haven't had any I haven't delivered, but three so far that software issues caused problems). If it's something like a delivery that's out of your area (all deliveries have a circle around the estimated location of the building that's about 100ft diameter or so), you can call and they'll mark it as delivered for you (sometimes the software lets you move the pin yourself). That's really something when you do rural areas like I do and the pin is marking their barn when their house is a football field's distance away. Or is simply pointing to the wrong house (which happens a bit more than it probably should). Honestly I'm having a great time doing Flex. It's great money for me, I do my own taxes and know my writeoffs, which is a huge boon when I go long distances and to know I'm writing off half of my income when my car sips fuel (averaging about 34 miles to the gallon). But I will say it's not for everyone at all. Especially if you don't like dogs, going to pretty run down places that might seem shady or creepy (oh boy do I have stories of some weird looking places that have made my hair stand up and I'm a pretty big, confident guy), or generally not comfortable having to get out of your comfort zone sometimes. Oh, and a huge tip for those who do dive in: organize your orders! Seriously, it'll save you tons of time and trouble. I like to scan all the boxes and lay them on the ground, grouped based on their numbers (so if I have 2675, I'll put it in a pile of 2670's. And my 2680's, etc. Sometimes one of the stations I go to has them numbered 1 though whatever, so that makes it much easier). I then scan the envelopes and bags and sort them based on the numbers I saw in these two plastic containers that I grabbed at Walmart specifically for this (they're both shallow, like used to store shoes under the bed or sometime. One is bigger than the other). After they're all scanned, I check what's delivered first (sometimes they'll be in order, sometimes in reverse. Sometimes it's batched). With that in mind, I put those first 10's in the front seat and floor the first of the plastic containers up front on the boxes on the seat facing the drivers seat so I can just grab them and go after parking and scan on the way. If I have space to fit the next 10s, I'll put those in first, then the first group so the ones on top will go first. From there, I like to put the next ones on the passenger back seats and work across until I have all my packages in. Any particularly big packages go in the trunk (and it's worth remembering what number that one is if you have one). When you do all of this, you should have all of the front emptied before having to worry about the back. And usually I'll just get to a stop that clears the front and move several boxes from the passenger side back to the passenger side front. Until it's to a point where I'm just putting the last of the batch in the front and I can reach over and grab what I need and go instead of having to play around looking for it in my car. And even better, say the delivery isn't in order. You at least have a good idea where in the car you need to look to find the package (and will also know that your next deliveries will be there too). I'm honestly amazed how many people I watch at stations who scan something and throw it in their car, then scan the next and toss that in. They must be searching so long to find anything!

click one of the stops on the map, or on the list, hit preview route and then navigate.

That is the one thing I don't like, you don't know where you are delivering until you get to the warehouse.

It would be great to see you do some Veho. I'm almost thankful I don't have an Amazon Flex warehouse near me. That's ridiculous right there.

Hi here in Delaware you can load your car and go you don’t have to wait for everybody else

It really depends on the warehouse because each has very different pickup procedures. A few locations I can park remotely load up and go but there’s a select few you have to park in line and you have to wait to it’s weird 😂

One of the warehouses i go you go in get the cart when it is ready and take it out to your car load up and leave

I started amazon flex just 2 days ago in the UK. My second delivery shift was a nightmare. I had 32 packages and the first drop was 50 minutes away! Then a road where I was supposed to deliver several packages was closed having repairs done so I had to take an alternative route. Then I had 2 packages that needed to go into an amazon locker and I didn’t understand how to use it and I spent about 15 minutes trying to figure it out 🤣 Eventually I realised once you click check in you then scan the actual packages. I went over my time by an hour and a half! Hard learning curve that’s for sure.

Our flex income covers our fixed monthly cost. We have other Avenues or hustles if you will to supplement and really boost our income. We do get some bad runs but like you said the ability to kind of predict the money you have coming is a good insurance policy. It also gives me a schedule I have to stick to unlike the ability to sign off anytime on door dash or other platforms.

Thanks Mike for the video unfortunately it is literally impossible to run a courier business on a gamble, and that’s the position that amazon has taken for amazon flex drivers. The lack of transparency when the offer is made and the way the offer is based on (time per hour)in my mind it is something that can’t be done. Any company conducting business needs to know the all of the details prior to accepting the job. Something very similar happened to me and that was the end of flex for me. Until they change their deceptive conduct I personally will not be taking any orders based on a gamble. I’m running only a for profit business just like them period.

That's one of the reason what I only take very good pay out offers. Because you don't know how many miles you're gonna drive. I know that in this job you haven't see the miles like the food delivery apps but now the gas price high is one of the thing that you need to consider.

Another thing in warehouses here in NY is when they give you late packages, after you been sitting about 20 min in the warehouse, Amazon workers rush you up to load the packages. 😡😡😡

Yes you can change the order of your route and you must always watch at your maps before you start your route especially if you got small amount of stop whit great distance in between them you could have done your second stop at first and the 2 other stop in the north and the last one where ever it is

It depends on time of day for the staging of vehicles. Morning they line you up like what happens with you. Afternoon and evening, they tend to have more shifts that pop up and pay a little more because they’re trying to get as much product out to customers as possible. With those kind of shifts there are less vehicles in staging so they just let you come and go as you get there.

In my marketplace San Jose we have like 4 different warehouses. It’s different from warehouse they deliver to different regions. Also usually the 4/4.5 hr shifts are the worst

I live in the Nashville TN area, I had 3 packages... the last package was 3 hours away!! I have been very hesitant to do pick up any shifts since then.

I do flex in San Diego right now they have it extremely streamlined where I can just show up check in (15 mins early only) and scan my cart directly off the floor and wheel it to my car myself - scan packages into my car and then im gone

In Fort Wayne Indiana, every route is four hours and NEVER!!!! less then 100 miles usually at least 125 miles

In NC we scan ID and get a cart thru the app within minutes then take to the car scan and leave. Can’t believe they make y’all wait for everyone load

As an Amazon Flex driver you're definitely getting the sloppy seconds. The DSP drivers get the nice, tight routes with minimal miles and maximum deliveries. Flex drivers get everything else including far away deliveries and packages that DSP's couldn't deliver.

You can select whichever stop you want. Just look for those pesky priority deliveries. You could probably get a little better mileage if you start with the closer one and go the furtherest one. Still that is crazy for a 3 hour shift. This is why I always wait for surge pay! Lol

I live in Dallas and each warehouse is different. Some of them is like your location, and some you pull up go get your cart load your car and just leave.

Ya that’s lame having to wait. I have a warehouse in my area that does that. Honestly they all hav a different process which is crazy.

So the route you got is called an ADHOC route ... sometimes amazon gives these route out to thier drivers usually 10hr shift 60 to 80 packages max and the down side instead of putting you in a neighborhood they make you drive around the entire county in multiple cities and w.e they don't finish or ends up getting returned they give it to the Flex drivers .

Thank you 🙏 much for all the info. I have been driving for over 20 years and I just signed up with Amazon Flex I can tell you that I am quitting now before I even got confirmed. To me any delivery that doesn’t pay at least $1.85 per mile is just not worth it. You’ll be killing your car and yourself too. This is not sustainable at all, worst than Uber. and all its products. Delivery business is first and foremost about MILES than + time.

You don’t necessarily have to drop off by the drop off time. I’ve had shifts were I start at 5:15 and lots of my deliveries say Deliver by 5pm. I’ve delivered many packages that says it like this. And I don’t have any dings on my account and I have excellent status

I had a 2 hour shift and it was only 3 packages. The first was 35 min away from the station. The next was 45 min away and the 3rd was only a few minutes but then I was an hour and 5 min from home. Totally sucked!

Here in South Florida, you enter the warehouse and scan your ID yourself, and get your cart of packages yourself as well. After you finish loading it into your car you can leave.

Ive never had a problem with a ding on my profile from late deliveries. Only thing that seems to effect it for me is returned packages, undeliverable.

I forfeited my shift after seeing this. Ain’t no way

Thanks for the truth, exactly what my sister said. Finally someone telling it like it is👏👏👏👏

Here in broward florida which is above miami it is u and only u that u depend on just grave ur cart with packages load ur car amd drop off cart and u start no waiting that very strange

I just want to say that you can generally know how your day is going to go in the Seattle market. I didn't have a route for my full-time delivery job so they sent me home with 4 hrs pay. Most blocks were already taken by 7:30AM, so I took a $20/hr 3.5-hr block that ended at 2:30PM and started a $23/hr 3-hour block for 3PM at 2:45PM. The first block I was told I should have took a 4 hour block (no choice it wasn't available) because there was a 1-stop locker drop where all 45 packages went to the locker. Instead, I had to drive far for 28 stops, 40 something mostly heavy boxes all down off driveways by a lake. These would have been hard but I did similar ones in a van so long that I just drove down their driveways cuz fk walking. I got done pretty early with this 3.5 hr block and had to time drive 50 minutes and still wait another 30 to start the next block early. The next block was literally one package that was 9 minutes away in the next city up and once I delivered it my day was done and I was home around 3pm. This is only the second time I had barely any packages because at a other warehouse in July they had too many drivers and gave us each 4 boxes, so I stopped at a car wash literally in between stops. Yesterday I had an off day and did two shifts of a same-day sub warehouse for $216 and it was 150 miles by the time I came back. Luckily I have a hybrid so gas today was $37 for 7 gallons from 1/4 of a tank to give me another 550 mi range. Just know you're mostly gonna earn it but I don't regret moving out of the country to have a better pick on where and when I want to work. Don't be 5 or more minutes late or go to the wrong warehouse or cancel routes hella like me and your standing will be solid

its the same for DSP drivers, you have to wait until everyone is loaded up before you can leave the warehouse

I do Flex in Ohio and we have to stand in line to get our carts but we get and push our carts to our cars ourselves and as soon as we load our vehicles we can GO we don't have to wait 👍😊

Yes you can just look for info for the delivery

I think we all start off wanting to do the best we can, on time deliveries, fantastic rating, etc. I learned on my first shift, full of apartments with access issues and multiple calls to support… worked over my hours to complete route, then had to fight for appropriate pay after their initial $9 comp, that they aren’t going to look out for us, we have to calculate and do what works for our bottom line. I would not have driven the additional miles to make that delivery by 5pm. After doing so, the package was still late and you had to go out of your way, on your dime. I’ve written emails explaining the blocks start time and mileage or any other factors that contribute to what I consider unreasonable expectation. They have often removed justified late deliveries or other matters outside of my control. I reroute according to my convenience and if a package needs to be returned to the warehouse, I ensure that is completed during contracted hours. Going so far as to cease deliveries with enough time to commute back to the warehouse. I used to try to report mishaps in app, delays, etc. now I don’t try to fix or resolve their problems and am not doing favors as none are done on my behalf. So much less stressful and frustrating and I am typically home by the time my blocks end time or before. Thanks for sharing your experience

I use a dollars to minute ratio. More miles, but fewer stops may take less time than fewer miles but more stops.