Worst Weapons In Helldivers 2!

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NatePlaysEm

2 ай бұрын

Nobody Uses these.
Buff Them Already!!!

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@rhett3185 2 ай бұрын

What’s funny is the Las Guard Dog “Rover” is actually a beast at clearing little bugs, and it’s the SAME GUN as the Scythe.. why can’t the scythe itself be as good or better?

@spectator3272 2 ай бұрын

Because we're human and the dog's aimhack

@maryceleste_aghost 2 ай бұрын

You will know why you need use it when illuminate release. Their psychic unit can teleport await it you don't use continous weapon

@porkerpete7722 2 ай бұрын

Im saying!

@jtrei1737 2 ай бұрын

second sub bro good vid

@jaythario4326 2 ай бұрын

Yeah I’m definitely using the scorcher now. This dude really puts you in the perspective of the overall layout of the meta in the game. Couldn’t find a good guide like this anywhere! (The flashlight portion was so damn true lmao).

@igreshi 2 ай бұрын

I agree with you wholeheartedly I'll take it one step further EVERY weapon should have options in the reload menu No matter how big or small

@datbird7797 2 ай бұрын

I love your idea for the senator reload thing. It would be so nice when you're just in the middle of a fight to be able to just waste rounds for more shots but when you're safe to swap and save the unused bullets

@DustyOrange 2 ай бұрын

Personally, think it would be cool if the Scythe's beam mode ignited if held on an enemy for some time. Like, idk, 2 seconds? And for it have an alternate fire similar to the plasma cutter from Dead Space, something that would actually make it make sense to be called a Scythe!

@kiki_de 2 ай бұрын

The Revolver should at least stagger enemies. For now is no reason to use anything else then this pistol machine gun as a secondary.

@Casualbystander 2 ай бұрын

Fr, make it ANYTHING more than what it currently is lol.

@87mc12 2 ай бұрын

I love the scorcher, been using it since I unlocked it

@porkerpete7722 2 ай бұрын

They literally just released a patch. No Psycthe buff tho.

@pavlycksmith7780 2 ай бұрын

Those were all soild takes and suggestions. Nice!

@kbutta01 2 ай бұрын

I’m perfectly fine having weapon be enemy specific. I think adding ammo types could help certain weapons that are good against one enemy type be usable against another.

@porkerpete7722 2 ай бұрын

Nah, what if the new enemies require certain weapons? That creates another toxic META.

@Casualbystander 2 ай бұрын

I agree with your points and also think the guns could benefit from more style, or give players options regarding how they want to use them. Some of these in the vid just got patched tho :p

@porkerpete7722 2 ай бұрын

Scythe still sucks tho

@isThreeman 2 ай бұрын

Like the revolver suggestion. Potentially waste ammo but faster reload or swap to top up the ammo slowly.

@pluviarium 2 ай бұрын

I try my damndest to make that counter sniper work on bots but MAN that handling. It can double tap headshot a devastator, but what's the good in that if half the time you get blown up before your reticle lands on the target like you're aiming a tank?

@bl00dydruidgaming70 2 ай бұрын

solid points. I think P-2 is fine damage wise. I do headshot, 1 tap hunters. IDK why i does not do so for you. LOVE the alt for that one specifically

@swampcastle8142 2 ай бұрын

Developers need to stop developing weapons and start developing ammo instead. Armor and damage setup would be more sane and be more consistent across weapons, since any tweaks would happen across the board for that type. As it is now they just play wack a mole with the nerf hammer.

@karathkasun 2 ай бұрын

Dominator is already not hitscan, try hitting anything past 50m. It supposed to be similar to IRL gyrojet guns.

@Darksiege357 2 ай бұрын

Damn, the curse of posting a video right when a patch comes out. They still didn't buff the scythe tho

@oQuindo1 2 ай бұрын

I do not think the senator is supposed to be used to clear small enemies. I think its actually better to use on mediums and rely on something else to kill small stuff.

@jakeslamakowski6990 2 ай бұрын

100% also the video isnt exactly accurate when he doesn't even fight or talk about bots at all.

@oQuindo1 2 ай бұрын

@jakeslamakowski6990 it being bad at weak bugs is correct. I have been rolling with the shotgun and senator on bug missions and focus on medium and heavy targets while my friends focus on the lights. I do normally bring a guard dog so that lights will not overrun me due to not shooting them.

@porkerpete7722 2 ай бұрын

@@jakeslamakowski6990 he literally said the Senator is good at bots. Wtf are u on?

@jakeslamakowski6990 2 ай бұрын

@@porkerpete7722 that's it, did you miss the part in the opening where he said he basically only plays against bugs? WTF are you on!?

@motzibcek 2 ай бұрын

Little late though. Dominator is now pretty good, and the Counter Diligence now does medium armor penetration damage.

@porkerpete7722 2 ай бұрын

Still sucks

@GutsgyattEnjoyer 2 ай бұрын

they bugged some of these in the latest patch, but the Counter-Sniper STILL SUCKS

@evildaddyz 2 ай бұрын

scorcher 15x6=90 shots while slugger only have 76 shot the dev need to increase more ammo for all weapons

@manubour 2 ай бұрын

they...just buffed the dominator 2 hours ago it still doesn't do AoE damage but now the damage is at least a lot better, took it on difficulty 7 in the current op and it feels a lot better now as for scorcher, while I agree that 5 more rounds would greatly help, it's my go to weapon and that of a lot of people that play vs bots due to the AoE meaning that it can take care of walkers. it's also no slouch (though harder to use not killing yourself) vs bugs due to explosion having bonus damage on weak points. also it destroys easily clusters of eggs

@fireemblemaddict128 2 ай бұрын

Yeah Scorcher is fine. It has situations where it outperforms and some where it doesn.t

@generaljedi8691 2 ай бұрын

Scorcher and Breaker are probably the hardest hitting primaries Meta wise. It doesn’t really bother me that they also run out of ammo quickly. Gotta trade your dps for something

@porkerpete7722 2 ай бұрын

18 shots per mag would be perfect though

@alexanderfurrows7946 2 ай бұрын

The Scythe is often shat on, and while I wouldn’t claim it to be good, it is much better than people generally claim it to be. I can consistently exit bug suicide missions using the scythe as my main weapon and have 400+ kills and few deaths. While I can’t rake in the same killcount against bots, I don’t feel underpowered when I bring it. The Scythe is a high damage weapon, the 300 dps isn’t lying. It’s true issue is that it has 0 stagger, meaning that enemies will overrun you if you overuse it. When combining the scythe with an ems mortar or teammates proving stagger on enemy hordes, the Scythe while cut through enemy hordes like a scythe through wheat. High dps, no recoil, perfect accuracy and heat packs mean that when engaging at mid range with fire discipline, you will tear light enemies apart and weaken medium enemies while your squad mates with different load outs shred the heavy and mediums without fear of light hordes swarming them.

@josephburchanowski4636 2 ай бұрын

300 dps is nearly equivalent to the dps of the Liberator concussive which is a low dps weapon. Meanwhile the sickle is over 650 dps. However the scythe does pop heads pretty quickly if the beam is well aimed; however if the enemy is a jumping hunter and you end up spreading your damage across multiple body parts or missing, the weapon can feel quite bad. It is mostly a matter of aiming. Two reasons the guard dog rover feels so good is that it has good aiming, and will continue firing as you are running away from an enemy allowing you to keep distance. Against bots, it can be really good at popping their heads as well or blowing up jetpacks. Suffers massively against berserkers (chainsaw guys). The weapon likely needs a buff even though it isn't as bad as some make it seem.

@alexanderfurrows7946 2 ай бұрын

@@josephburchanowski4636 I agree with you here, with the exception of jumping hunters - I find the scythe to be the best way to kill jumping enemies as while it’s harder to aim for the heads, it tears off limbs in the air really easily from what I find. You are especially correct about the Bezerkers - the scythe is completely countered by them and simply is unable to do the damage to kill then or even easily take off their limbs. Personally I believe the scythe should get a damage buff to 400 dps, a bonus to tearing off limbs, armour stripping (weakening the armour of where it hits) or increasing the damage the longer it fires. Any of these buffs could put what I think is a generally C+ to B- tier weapon (personally an A+) into a solid A tier weapon.

@josephburchanowski4636 2 ай бұрын

@@alexanderfurrows7946 Just tried out the weapon again, and frankly it felt much better against bots than bugs. If there is a limb damage stat, it certainly needs it upped; as it felt nearly useless once you get a few brood commanders and hive guards. Against bots, its only saving grace is how weak their heads are and blowing up jetpacks. I know there is a stat for damage against durable enemy parts; but I don't know if that applies to limbs of common enemies and what not. Now I could just be crazy, but it feels like it preforms worse than the las cannon against shriekers; which for an rifle against a light enemy, is pretty bad. I won't be surprised if we see another +50% damage weapon buff (which is pretty crazy of a percentage change when you think of it; but it happened to the flamethrower and the dominator).

@Narwhaloffate 2 ай бұрын

Diligence got buffed to medium pen

@porkerpete7722 2 ай бұрын

The handling is still terrible tho

@ricardobimblesticks1489 2 ай бұрын

So helldivers, do we want generic weapons that are more or less the same in all players hands, to hell with the skill floor and ceiling? Or are we going for a game of 'Whac-A-Mole' where watching a simple video will let us know which flavour is on special this month?

@porkerpete7722 2 ай бұрын

Wtf are you talking about 😂

@ricardobimblesticks1489 2 ай бұрын

@@porkerpete7722 Not something you need worry yourself with ;-)

@armchairtony 2 ай бұрын

Massive disagree on everything here thats "good for one faction, trash for the other." Bugs and bots should wildly change what gear you bring.

@porkerpete7722 2 ай бұрын

Nah. What if the Illuminate require certain weapons? That woukd instantly create another toxic meta

@armchairtony 2 ай бұрын

@@porkerpete7722 the same way the bugs and bots incentivize certain weapons? If you bring precision weapons to the bug front: you should have a bad time. Same if you're bringing flame weapons to the bot front. I expect the same for Lazer weaponry on the illuminate front or however that's gonna shake down. I think this is good. The same build in every aspect of the game would get boring (Looking at you, Destiny 2).

@porkerpete7722 2 ай бұрын

@armchairtony it's not about copy/pasting a build with every enemy, but having every weapon function against every enemy GREAT! Even if it needs a different approach.

@ijsbeermeneer9952 2 ай бұрын

Lel im a bot main but play bugs with friends. Dilligence cs works amazing against hive guards, but ye it still nog an amazing gun. Breaker is better in almost every way