Would a Leverkusen unbeaten treble be the greatest club season ever? 🤔

Would a Leverkusen unbeaten treble be the greatest club season ever? 🤔 | ESPN FC

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Gab Marcotti and Julien Laurens react to the weekend’s Bundesliga action, as Bayer Leverkusen’s epic unbeaten run hits 50 games with a 5-0 demolition of VfL Bochum.
0:00 Leverkusen’s unbeaten treble edges closer
1:33 Benjamin Sesko’s streak continues
2:34 Serhou Guirassy’s release clause
3:25 Bayern’s teenage stars show up vs. Wolfsburg
4:28 Bayern’s manager search
5:28 Dortmund embarrassed by Mainz
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@dentonyoung4314 16 күн бұрын

If "Neverlusen" goes 53 games without a loss and wins the treble, there's no question it's the greatest club season ever.

@sifathasan7360 16 күн бұрын

An European club that is not playing in Ucl can never have the greatest club season ever title.. Don’t get me wrong i am a huge Xabi Alonso fan from his time in Real Madrid.. And i love what he has done for Leverkusen.. Maybe next year..

@timberhoff 16 күн бұрын

100% agree. You cannot say this without a ucl title. Europa cup, while prestigious trophy to have, is still much much much weaker than champions league.

@ilcarcerieredimauri79 16 күн бұрын

@@timberhoff you are missing the point. No team in history has ever went a full season completely unbeaten in all competitions before. Regardless of being in the CL or not it will still be the best ever club season in history. Until another team eventually goes unbeaten in the league, domestic cups, and CL. But until then it's Leverkusen who are the best in history.

@ateeshh4002 16 күн бұрын

Still A GOLDEN European Treble. Unique if not THE Greatest still A G.O.A.T Season @@timberhoff

@ateeshh4002 16 күн бұрын

@@sifathasan7360Still A GOLDEN European Treble. Unique if not THE Greatest still A G.O.A.T Season

@cfcufc007 16 күн бұрын

With all due respect to people claiming this is not impressive, you can only win the competitions you are a part of. No team has done this yet and probably won’t be achieved again. We’ve had plenty of treble winners now. Wouldn’t call any season greatest ever but it’s great to see something like this unfolding.

@Youafool500 16 күн бұрын

Guess who could make a good attempt at repeating this but including the Champions League, will be good odds to put down for Alonso to do it with Madrid when he gets there

@monokumaxd1943 16 күн бұрын

@@Youafool500Leverkusen are playing in the UCL next season. Why can’t they do it again? How do you know Alonso won’t snub Madrid like he snubbed Liverpool and Bayern? Yes, Madrid is no doubt the biggest club in the world. But the difference between Madrid and Liverpool/Bayern is far less than the difference between Liverpool/Bayern and Leverkusen.

@Youafool500 16 күн бұрын

@@monokumaxd1943 The odds on them going another season unbeaten is doubtful, like you said they will be playing in the champions league next season so defeats is already a certainty there, amazing season but they won’t be able or replicate it. As for Alonso, he’s not going to stay at Leverkusen for long, if the Madrid job gets offered to him, he will take it. He moved around as a player so no doubt he will do that as a manager

@cameronpeterson5961 16 күн бұрын

While you’re correct, it’s also correct to call it “a treble” and not “the treble.” There’s a very big difference between the EL and the CL.

@monokumaxd1943 15 күн бұрын

@@Youafool500 I agree that he’ll move around, but I think you’re very bold to say that if Madrid comes knocking he’ll definitely take it. Bayern are in a state of extreme turmoil right now and there is a real possibility for Xavi to establish a new dynasty in the Bundesliga if he stays and keeps his team together. I have no doubt that he will eventually manage Madrid, but I think that it won’t be immediately. I think he will spend at least another 4 or 5 seasons at Leverkusen, working on the project and establishing Leverkusen as the Bundesliga’s ruling dynasty given Bayern’s inability to effectively challenge for a title given their inner turmoil

@marsspacex6065 16 күн бұрын

The golden treble will go down in history.

@richi1235 16 күн бұрын

Its the small treble though (EL instead of CL)

@KarlTiti 16 күн бұрын

@@richi1235 Everyone knows, yet it would be one of the most impressive seasons in history.

@kayceee6770 16 күн бұрын

@@richi1235 Even still, that's just because of one title which would be between equal level opponents. The domestic double going unbeaten in the league would be a massive achievement in Germany, plus competing in Europe without a loss there too

@willg1088 16 күн бұрын

@@richi1235 but the team is mid and winning golden treble is something that never happened before especially that we almost got a ucl german final so the bundesliga is still good.

@zenmonk5403 16 күн бұрын

@@richi1235 If they win Club WC it will be viewed like the full deal.

@2bocamipalo 16 күн бұрын

yes, if i was a bayern munich, a man city, real/barca you would say they needed an ucl instead of europa as these teams have massive budgets and salaries but for a team like leverkusen then yeah this is huge and historic

@PheraAustiger 14 күн бұрын

Yes its historic. They don't have oil money or billions,they worker with what they have and they've been very much impressive. They deserve the utmost respect

@alexanderhoyer1924 16 күн бұрын

Yes, an unbeaten Treble at any level would be amazing and anyone stating otherwise is a fool. Leverkusen haven't lost since May 27th 2023. They are about to go a WHOLE year without suffering a defeat. That is insane.

@ryanchikomba597 13 күн бұрын

Gab and Jus are disgusting haters. Gab didn't even give a shred of credit. How can hê say Leverkusen only drew with Roma because Roma were chasing a winner.

@peacefulliberal5641 16 күн бұрын

Greatest club in football history! Incredible! Bundesliga produces again.

@dvm007 16 күн бұрын

🤣😂

@NoxiousRob 16 күн бұрын

In my opinion, if they win the treble undefeated, even though it's only the Europa League and not the CL, it probably outranks teams who've won the treble including the CL. To do it undefeated adds an extra dimension. I'm really hoping they can do it, as it's stories like this that make football so great. One league game left at home to mid-table Augsburg, a German cup final against 2nd tier Kaiserslautern, surely those are in the bag and it all boils down to the Europa League final against Atalanta. The crazy thing is, Leverkusen could be 2 down after 85 minutes, and I'd still fancy them to win it.

@dacrib5350 16 күн бұрын

Not really.. CL is the best competition and what teams actually want to win. The rest are just stuff the top teams settle for. Maybe it's the historian in me but there's just no way this team with who they have actually had to play is the best club season ever. Best club season ever that didn't include Champions aka the TOP tournament of the world? Yeah I can accept that. 😂

@denisl9946 16 күн бұрын

@@dacrib5350 What happens if Leverkusen decisively beat Madrid in a potential super cup? Still won't concede?

@paulharrington2867 16 күн бұрын

Obviosuly not. They wouldn't be unbeaten if they were competing in the Champions League

@NoxiousRob 16 күн бұрын

@@paulharrington2867 that's your opinion, they aren't competing in the Champions League, so no one can ever know how they would have performed.

@dvm007 16 күн бұрын

Nope they haven’t faced Madrid

@simonshipway1964 14 күн бұрын

Very few have gone undefeated in there domestic leagues let alone the cup and Europe. Bayern won 11 straight Bundesliga’s and never went undefeated. Unbelievable season from Bayer Leverkusen

@ThomasSamoth-ls8ed 16 күн бұрын

What even is a 'covid-treble'? Roma got literally manhandled by Leverkusen over the two legs and were very lucky to even get their 2 goals. Gab won't mention that though while in his Serie A bias desperation. Leverkusen should have scored 5 goals, at least. Roma got lucky that Leverkusen didn't play Wirtz, Boniface, Schick and instead played 3rd striker Hlozek who missed sitters.

@malzagod1429 9 күн бұрын

FatGab is a known anti-German. He is salty Bundesliga is better than Serie A.

@PheraAustiger 14 күн бұрын

Leverkusen Deserves the utmost respect. No Oil money,115 Charges or world class players like Madrid or Bayern. They worked with what they have. Im a die hard Madrid Fan,but this season Leverkusen has Earned my utmost respect and deep adoration!!!. My God this football Club made me so happy 😊

@Zossel99 16 күн бұрын

I would like to take this opportunity to talk about Eric Dier, as I feel he is being overlooked :) Eric Dier is undoubtedly one of the standout defenders of his time ( meaning the second half of the season ). His exceptional ability to excel both tactically and technically makes him a true giant on the field. His reading of the game is unmatched; he often seems to anticipate the opponent's movements in advance, allowing him to make crucial interventions and disrupt attacks before they even begin. His ball control and passing accuracy are equally remarkable, and he possesses the rare ability to stand defensively solid while also actively participating in the build-up play. Eric Dier is not just a defender; he is also an architect of the game, shining on the field through both his leadership qualities and impressive technical mastery.

@Ramkeev 16 күн бұрын

Winning every game possible everywhere with no astricks. Yeat the GOAT

@douglasharley2440 16 күн бұрын

short answer: *YES.*

@chrisk-rs8xw 16 күн бұрын

for now yes until a team wins the big treble undefeated

@Nice-ou8ps 15 күн бұрын

Far less likely to happen now with the new UCL format.

@Brad_Pittstop 15 күн бұрын

50 games unbeaten and winning 5-0 is just perfect.

@ianmccartney1974 16 күн бұрын

Yes

@mehedi8331 16 күн бұрын

Again they scored after 90 mins😱😱😱😱

@davidt3956 16 күн бұрын

Who cares? They scored.

@khondwanibanda5537 16 күн бұрын

Short answer: YES.!

@Sascha_Germany 16 күн бұрын

Even a bad bayern side has not lost in group stage since aeons

@mathemen3011 16 күн бұрын

Was verstehst Du unter "bad" Bayern? Ein Kader der knapp eine Milliarde wert ist? Die können jede Mannschaft schlagen an einem guten Tag. Seit wann gibt es denn die bad Bayern? Seit 2017?

@edderwright9042 16 күн бұрын

Sixtuple that Pep did at Barca and Hansi did at Bayern are number 1 & 2. What Leverkusen is doing will probably go down as the most impressive if they go unbeaten, but definitely not the best achievement in a single season.

@tb2571 16 күн бұрын

Heynckes treble in 2013 was AS good AS flicks Bayern treble in 2020...

@edderwright9042 16 күн бұрын

@@tb2571 Difference being is Flick winning six trophies that year

@d3niilii114 14 күн бұрын

Hands down, the greatest season performance, setting the par and I challenged any team in the world not only soccer any team sport to emulate it or even to do better, even my beloved The Arsenal fc.......

@user-oj4xp2lh4d 15 күн бұрын

At last a small mention for VfB Stuttgart. An amazing season rarely talked about..

@polkadotcat 15 күн бұрын

Maybe greatest club season, but certainly greatest for a season ticket holder. The amount of late deciding goals must be unprecedented. I watched every game of theirs this season and think a more fitting name is "Nervekusen"

@joe2snj 15 күн бұрын

Barcelona, Inter, Man Utd, Man City, Ajax, Celtic, Bayern Munich, PSV Eindhoven have all won the treble. None of them went the whole season unbeaten in all competitions like Leverkusen might well do. The question is would you rather your team lose a few games but win the Champions League, League and Cup or remain undefeated all season and win the League by well over 10 points, Cup and Europa League while beating teams who went far the Champions League?

@JR-sj1jz 16 күн бұрын

If you are a team in desperate need for a striker and a player like Guirassy is on the market for £17m, you would have to be crazy not to make the deal even if he is 28. There are teams spending double that amount for just a squad player, let alone a potential starter. If the gamble doesn't work out, it's fine because he probably won't be on crazy wages. A lot of big teams are looking for strikers so if you are West Ham or a team of that nature for example, you rush to get him.

@davemariano5763 16 күн бұрын

If not the greatest one of the greatest. Only asterisk is not Champions League treble but they beat both Champions League semi-finalists (one in the final and the other very close).

@jamesinhenley 16 күн бұрын

Came here from the podcast to say Jules is totally correct about the ladies old Trafford no show. Fuzzy thinking gab

@codedsoul7360 16 күн бұрын

Yes it would.

@rbo87 16 күн бұрын

Yes, as a bayern fan. 53 games unbeaten and treble win would be historical. Its not easy to win Europa League as many think. Big teams failed in that competition before Liverpool. Congrats to Leverkusen so far. 🇩🇪

@richardhenderson1902 14 күн бұрын

Yes, clearly

@Thomas-ow4wc 16 күн бұрын

If they get 54 simply yes, for that they need to beat the CL Winner.

@pennywise1682 15 күн бұрын

If they manage to achieve that, then yes. Its even more remarkable in todays football, so imo it would be the greatest season ever played by a club

@strangehousefl 16 күн бұрын

easily greatest club achievement of all time

@AlexOjideagu2 16 күн бұрын

They didn't win the UCL, so no it's not

@LawrenceTJadezweni 16 күн бұрын

Jeremy Doku...???

@cy_pher03 16 күн бұрын

EL is underrated. Leverkusens opponent in the final is a team that managed to beat Liverpool 0:3 at home.

@BlitZkrieG988 16 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@thedarkcranberry 14 күн бұрын

Nah. They can try again next year in the CL.

@pheaseyy 16 күн бұрын

I don't think it's really fair to call any of these teams the greatest ever club season cause there are too many different factors, but it should definitely be in the conversation in the least

@Schminz 15 күн бұрын

In this episode of the Yap & Juls Show: "It only came because Roma were behind on aggregate." "It depends how they win it. I would have to review that. It depends who the opponents were..." "That was a covid treble though" The disrespect is insane in this one. Football heritage apparently just exists when it occurs in the UK. Ignorant, arrogant, borderline delusional.

@user-od7fz3tz2t 16 күн бұрын

But don’t undermine Atlanta! They are not easy to mess with remember they destroyed Liverpool at Anfield.

@LiliKoue 16 күн бұрын

What is Atlanta? The MLS club?

@LunaDaSavage 15 күн бұрын

Leverkusen Neverlusen 🔥👏🏿

@LunaDaSavage 15 күн бұрын

Funny part is there's actually a team named Neverlusen FC 😂

@michaelclaus 16 күн бұрын

When they win the UCL next year, it will be their greatest season.

@afolabilevi7109 15 күн бұрын

Imagine... Dotmund winning the Champions League.

@danielcarlier183 16 күн бұрын

Yes end of

@hoerstle6636 16 күн бұрын

Haven't seen it yet, but the answer is probably "Naaah no Champions League and more important, not from the premier league....so...no..." ^^

@ntokozohlatshwayo165 16 күн бұрын

took out of my mouth 😂😂😂😂

@russellward4624 16 күн бұрын

Because the ucl is more important and better than the europa league. I'm sorry but beating Aston Villa isn't the same as beating Real.

@ntokozohlatshwayo165 16 күн бұрын

@@russellward4624 image if they win the Europa League this season and win the Champions League next season. Porto did it under Jose at the time, it was still named the UEFA cup

@ThomasSamoth-ls8ed 16 күн бұрын

Gab tried to go that route, but Juls didn't wannas hear that nonesense. So in the end he simply suggested it by saying: 'we'll have to review their opponents'. Which is a sensible thing to do, but then please also do it for the other unbeaten teams + you could have done that before the podcast. Was just an excuse for Gab to dismiss Leverkusen's season and brush it aside... Going unbeaten like that is great even if 'only' Europa League. I mean why couldn't any big club manage that when they were playing Europa.

@ntokozohlatshwayo165 16 күн бұрын

@@ThomasSamoth-ls8ed valid.

@pierrebussien553 11 күн бұрын

A good story for Hollywood

@Tony.L9793 16 күн бұрын

They missed out winning the treble in 2002 now they are going to win back the treble they have lost😂

@Tebohomotitimi 15 күн бұрын

who needs a champions league when you can with the Europa league universal title?😂

@ryanchikomba597 13 күн бұрын

The two are some of the worst pundits couldn't even give leverkusen some credit... Going unbeaten is tremendous cause if it was Bayern with the same record this season they would off been gloryfying them.

@ryanchikomba597 13 күн бұрын

Gab and Jus are disgusting haters. Gab didn't even give a shred of credit. How can hê say Leverkusen only drew with Roma because Roma were chasing a winner.

@user-fj6wt8vv1q 15 күн бұрын

Yes, but only if they were in UCL. Tbh, they could win the UCL this season if they were in it.

@asfn8r 16 күн бұрын

Gab is such a hater

@sivaramlord9151 16 күн бұрын

Nope. Farmers leauge title and Europa league title does not compare to the sheer difficulty in winning the EPL and the UCL

@altafahmad8578 16 күн бұрын

you mean the epl that was terrible in all european competitions while the "farmes league" has one team in both the champions league and europe league final?

@sivaramlord9151 16 күн бұрын

@@altafahmad8578 So what a farmers team don't win the EPL and the UCL this season. Dortmund is a rubbish team that got lucky. Real Madrid will thrash them like they always thrash Bayern.

@rmv9194 16 күн бұрын

Nah, It would have to be the UCL instead of Europa League

@AlexOjideagu2 16 күн бұрын

No it wouldn't. Leverkusen didn't play in the Champions League, and nearly lost in the Europa league many times. To West Ham, Roma, Qarabag etc they would never have had an unbeaten season in the UCL

@ThomasSamoth-ls8ed 16 күн бұрын

Gab Marcotti's ant-Bundesliga bias through the roof in this video. Why's this guy even covering the league. Guy is a stain and annoying and then constantly adds disinfo on top. Are people even supposed to enjoy your 'shows'? I doubt that at this point. This annoying unproffesionalism is why me and so many more every single day don't even tune in to ESPN anymore and just occassionally watch some YT vids we get clickbaited into.

@KLHK1981 13 күн бұрын

You enjoy😂😂😂

@KreyzAim 16 күн бұрын

Silver treble is impressive. The golden treble is the main goal

@Henry-to6yz 16 күн бұрын

It's the going unbeaten part that moves the goal posts when it comes to the golden and silver debate.

@johnjones9673 16 күн бұрын

madness,so it does,nt matter what competition.or what opponents you play.if leverkusen played last season in premier league would they have won it unbeaten,and won fa cup and a european cup unbeaten. i have to find something else to watch, this is provocative to cause interest. the english press do this all the time.i need to find a serious channel.

@RobH1628 16 күн бұрын

Impressive but no UCL means not the greatest

@thesuperheroteacher6101 16 күн бұрын

Atlanta will beat them. Atlanta in Great form

@paulharrington2867 16 күн бұрын

Obviously not given it doesn't contain the Champions league. Every treble winner had a better season. Munich had a better season in 2013. Thy won Bundesliga with more points and the Champions league over the Europa league 🤷

@tb2571 16 күн бұрын

I am a Bayern Fan ...but u cant compare IT...Bayern Had and has a far bigger Budget...this IS Bundesliga...the Teams are very poor...Last Spot in England get more Money than the First in Bundesliga. Besides english Teams have Investors unlike in Bundesliga. Leverkusens top Players salary would be one of the lowest salaries in munich. They achieved Something really great. Leverkusen always was a top Team in Germany but they are Like Tottenham. The clear number 4 or 5 in Germany with ni Chance of winning any silverware...Bayern Leipzig Dortmund and even Wolfsburg can pay more and have more Budget...while Bayern Dortmund and Leipzig we're clearly above them in the Last years and it seemed like they are even Miles away from Dortmund and Leipzig in the Last 5 years ...even Clubs Like Frankfurt or Freiburg seemed to step on the Same Level or even above them in the Last years

@paulharrington2867 16 күн бұрын

@@tb2571 you're misunderstanding the point. Bayern had a better season. Barca, Utd, Inter and City too. Leverkusen's season is impressive for many reasons but it's not the best. They aren't competing in the highest level of competition so it couldn't possibly be the greatest. Sorry.

@tb2571 16 күн бұрын

@@paulharrington2867 cant agree with that... Imagine Bilbao win la Liga the Cup and Euro League undefeated...demolishing real Madrid and Barcelona....who reach the final and semi final in ucl... Or AS Roma in italy ....u can Not compare Premier League with other leagues...IT is Like cheating...they have 20x more Money Bundesliga Serie a and laliga have together...man City didnt achieve anything.

@paulharrington2867 15 күн бұрын

@@tb2571 stop talking rubbish. When teams have won the treble containing the Champions league, a treble without it isn't as good. Simple 🤷

@GD-Yurawalu4951 15 күн бұрын

They're doing it in a terrible league whilst playing in the Mickey Mouse europa league.

@jjagweshuaib8734 12 күн бұрын

With a ucl semi finalist and a finalist !!!

@hansmuller3604 16 күн бұрын

the dortmund behavier in a league match against a opponent fighting relegation with other clubs was disgusting

@Raydensheraj 16 күн бұрын

It will be on the Level of 1FC Kaiserslautern under Otto Rehhagel....but sorry....the golden triple is unbeatable in terms of prestige. Making it under the last 4 in the Champions League means more than a Europa League Trophy. Just FACTS. But it is definitely one of the greatest Bundesliga stories....besides 1FC Kaiserslautern and Bayern München collecting triples...Werder Bremen winning the European Trophy of Cup winners back in the days....and the FC Schalke 04 Uefa Cup win....

@misterbeane 16 күн бұрын

No, because winning the Europa League is not part of a real treble. While it's still a decent feat, it's not in the same stratosphere as winning the CL in a treble.

@MemoTea 16 күн бұрын

Corresponding budgets to corresponding tournaments. Leverkusen's achievement in EL is as big as City's achievement in CL. Only they did undefeated.

@wokeaf1337 16 күн бұрын

The definition of Treble is 3 titles, doesnt specify which titles and if it is unbeaten then it is up there at the top.

@tb2571 16 күн бұрын

@@MemoTeaIT is bigger Bro...give Citys Money too any Bundesliga Club and they will do the Same without any Problems....abu Dhabi owners came in 2008 and spend more than whole Bundesliga in the Same time....German or spanish Club wouldnt need AS much time to win the ucl...16 years .....boy the Last place in Ur epl earns more Money than the First in Bundesliga.... Besides u have Investors for each Club while Bundesliga Clubs have to sell their key Players every season...havertz diaby and Bailey were there a few seasons ago.

@richardhenderson1902 14 күн бұрын

“A decent feat”? 🤔

@russellward4624 16 күн бұрын

No because the europa league is like the league cup of cups.

@hansmuller3604 16 күн бұрын

thats the conference league bbro... Both champions league finalist should not play the competition because neither was a champion last year! Its the League Cup of the old European Cup of national champions.

@ThomasSamoth-ls8ed 16 күн бұрын

then why couldn't anyone else go unbeaten there. not even sevilla or any great pl club like liverpool, man u , chelsea, arsenal

@ThomasSamoth-ls8ed 16 күн бұрын

neither barca

@russellward4624 16 күн бұрын

@@ThomasSamoth-ls8ed because nobody cares about going unbeaten. Barca were unbeaten a few years ago and rested Messi for a post season friendly. That's how unimportant going unbeaten is.

@ThomasSamoth-ls8ed 15 күн бұрын

@@russellward4624 every football club cares about not being beaten

@A_Petit_TV 16 күн бұрын

Still Real Madrids run is more impressive. Champions league is the pinnacle! And knowing that Real has just 1 loss…. Against Atletico… and probably setting up for their 15th… its far bigger achievement… despite Leverkussen never lost…

@mole1596 16 күн бұрын

No. With all respect, it would be incredible, but winning a treble with a Champions League trophy and losing 1,2,3 games during the season is much more impressive. Real Madrid are on the way to do it. But for a smaller club like BL, a treble without losing a game would be phenomenal.

@DrumVibes 16 күн бұрын

Nope, going unbeaten is 10x more impressive. Multiple teams have won b2b ucls, but no club has ever won a european trophy without losing a single game all season.

@kibbit1373 16 күн бұрын

No. It would not be more phenomenal, since you would most likely lose in the league if you have 1,2 or 3 losses. Also, 1,2 or 3 losses has been achieved multiple times.

@mole1596 16 күн бұрын

Champions League is a whole different animal. You can’t compare it to the Europa League. Leverkusen would’ve been knocked out already if they played in the CL.

@kibbit1373 16 күн бұрын

@@mole1596 That is a ridiculous statement considering they haven't lost. They beat Bayern 3-0 and 2-2 and Dortmund 1-1 and 1-1, both of which were in the Semis. One beat PSG 2-0. The other one barely lost to a Real Madrid side mainly because of poor ref decision.

@jorgehoek8486 16 күн бұрын

All who root for that club that has been buying games since the 50's has no self Dignity