Georgian wars and the conflict in Ukriane are a result of the plans of NATO and EU for inporporation of those counties. There is (and was) no democratic will for it without the massive funding for NGOs in those coutries from the west to fuel those hopes. Like it is somehow normal that half the US congress and their families has buisseness ties in Ukraine. Russia cannot, geopolitically, let that happen. You are right that it's a purely geopolitical play of the EU to expand their borders. And like with a lot of the balkan countries, the standards that should be met are but a formal apeasement for current citizens and are ignored the moment it's against other interests.

What standard? Double standard?

Georgia will never fully reach EU standards. Besides, Georgia is in Asia, not Europe, so it doesn't qualify. Mistakes were made with Turkey as a candidate member, wihch has been so for over two decades.

@@frcluc there's nothing that says the European Union needs all its members to be in the continent of Europe.

@@Masterrunescapeer It's in the name: EUROPEAN Union, not European-Caucasian-MiddleEastern union.

Good point, they are in a really difficult position

i hope the balkans,cacuses (and maybe Turkey if they stop their democratic back sliding)ukraine, moldova can join the Union...who knows maybe the brits come back after they realise that acting like a reactionary does no good

Georgia already had its territory invaded and occupied by Russia, how do you expect them to stay neutral?

Exactly!

As a French I support them to join the European Union 🇪🇺

Stalin would be rolling around in his grave if they become part of the EU. LOL

Be serious ... look at a map , the world has shifted SHORT supply lines .. Join EU ?? ... there is NO way that can work ...

European union false hope

Other than feeling bad for the Georgians, is there a legitimate reason you think they should join the EU. My sympathy is definitely with the Georgian people, as they are very likely to be taken other in our lifetime.

In my POV georgia is a small country with no natural resources along with boarder dispute no chance to eu

They do care now. Russia will never win another war again and never be trusted again if ever.

Let's be real here, Russia attacked georgia to stop them from getting into the EU and its has worked. It is a common trend. It's putins way of saying 'you ain't joining the EU because you're mine' and ukraine is another example of that. Both countries aspire to join the EU and NATO and what so you know, the Russians attack to ensure they can't do either. It's not a mere coincidence

facts

they just want everyone of them to die and kill as many russians as possible while doing so just like ukraine, they gave false hopes to Ukraine, neither they got NATO membership nor EU membership their country is in shambles and west want them to fight till the last ukrainian is alive so they can drag russia western companies will make money as the so call aid means contract to western companies

Different leaders, Ukraine was also not supported in 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea and sponsored Donbas separatists.

*EUROPEAN doesn't necessarily mean Western.*

Georgia is geographically very far away from the European Union, though.

Okay go add them to Europe ASAP fools everywhere.just fly into Europe and leave their

Georgia developing? You need to get up from you chair and see the world. Georgia has slid to stone age after it gained independence from USSR. All infrustructur is in decay and Turkey is taking them over.

It wouldn't be worth it they are completely surrounded by Russian allied countries. They should just not get involved and stay neutral. Maybe in the future but right now is a bad time.

@ZDF same as Turkey 🇹🇷.

And get invaded by Russia.

I don't think Stalin would had like that. Considering the fact that he himself was georging and started the Soviet Union which is one of the reasons why the West is enemies with russia. Stalin definitely wouldn't be pleased

@@Alex-pj8nz They've been invaded 'because' they're not a member of the EU or NATO.

@@Alex-pj8nz although the EU is not a military Alliance, it would be quite impossible for Russia to invade a member of the EU. I believe Moldova will be next on Putin's hit list..... but he'll come back to Georgia before his death.

NATO why not but let them first be another state of America before joining the EU...

Same with Ukraine, Ukraine would have probably a better chance to join EU in the present if they would have given up on Donbas and Luhansk back in 2014.

It's a bit different though: Georgia is the victim in those territorial disputes, Serbia is the potential aggressor who just doesn't want to accept reality.

@@marioreds7826 Kosovo is the agressor, Serbia is just aggressive.

@@marioreds7826 no , secesionist states are inherently aggressors since they want to take territory

@@marioreds7826 There absolutely no difference betwean Georgia and Serbia's territorial dispute. Serbia wanted to keep Kosovo as part of Serbia and was attacked by NATO , and Georgia wanted to keep Ossetia as part of Georgia and was attacked by Russia. If you have objective view It's same story.

Same I want this answer too.

Trying to join NATO like in 2008 most certainly wont keep him out. Guaranteed.

@@henrymorgan9797 bro they cant challenge and go into conflict with russia that will go nuclear very fast and europe as well as russia and usa will cease to exist and will be wiped out it's a big risk

And bravery and challenge will not keep him out it will turn europe into nuclear waste land with little to no population left and all destroyed

@@broperfect7669 everybody dies sometime, what matters is to live and die free.

@@henrymorgan9797 This time it will, Russia is done. They just don't know it yet, you should move there and let us know.

No, the EU doesn't need an other Hongary or Poland.

@@johnjanssens8998 What you need is a couple of lessons in spelling :)

@@branimirgenev8019 NEW WAR, MONGER MONGER! NO LONG TERM THINKING! NO LOOKING INTO HISTORY! THINKING THERE ARE "GOOD MORAL" NATIONS!

@@branimirgenev8019 At least I speak more than one language.

@@johnjanssens8998 So do I, you want a medal or what?

freedom of speech cant be stopped no matter how hard they try

Cost of living in EU is much higher than Russia

@@xo121w Freedom of Speech is useless if Government doesn't provide services

Georgian have more properties than European countries,

High living costs in EU soak up any extra money they may get. Russia has low living costs so they probably have a higher standard of living even though they have less income.

@@kreight_ rich ?? It's just Germany that is rich and powerful, the rest are 🥴🥴🥴 If it wasn't for Their Euro which RUSSIA accepts as mode of payment for his oil which creates demand for it and it's healthy stability. Euro would have fall long time ago , just the way it did a few weeks back, When Euro and dollar is same price now. This is nothing but the start of the fall of Western Euro and dollar.

@ZDF no they weren't they only occupied crimea and Ukraine didnt fight cause of the huge power gap but russia didnt change the government so ukrain got aid and military support and equipment for the last 8 years from the west to over come the power gap and maybe scare Russia but yet their still doomed

@ZDF nah only 7.5% of russian army in urkaine you can search it up thier is 190k troops but full russian army 3 million and thier already 1 step away from declaring donbas region as a separate country 2 days ago zelensky said on BBC "you can search it up" thay Russia will soon occupy Donetsk which is the last holding place in donbas almost 40% of ukranian territory has almost been occupied in less than half a year by 7.5% of Russian army I dont think Ukraine is doing any better than holding on for a few month

Strongly no one is getting attacked until NATO starts staging coups and brings the weapons in

You are welcome. Goog neigbhours

@@davexorus9836 Many thanks! I am in love with Georgian culture and nature! And yes, we are great neighbors! AZE-GEO🤝

Why can't an 80 pound child effectively defend itself from a 200 pound predator? Must be the child's fault if it is abused or killed.

Because they don’t want to work and build up their own country, they always want to be dependent. That’s is so obvious

Staying neutral is new trend..yep..no need to ask anything or no need to bow down to anyone

There is no way for it. This is europe my friend where your neighbour are Austria or Slovenia... Our neigbhours are Russia, Turkey, Iran. See the difference?

It would hold putin off if they were a member. getting candadate status is only the first step unfortunately meaning putin could still invade during the time it takes to join, and it takes years.

please than change from nato to world military alliance to protect from russia

@@zytoses9223 Putin already invaded in 2008. That's why they will never have NATO membership because Russian soldiers occupy South Ossetia and Abkhazia. EU isn't a Military alliance

@@zytoses9223 Putin is in no position to invade anyone else at the moment.

@@latymz : Not right now, no. But if he takes all of southern Ukraine including Odessa, then Moldova could be next.

Because neither EU officials could name the exact reasons. They underlined that Georgia has the best results and meets most of the criteria, but... (It must be noted that before granting Ukraine and Moldova with candidacy, Macron said in his speech that unfortunately Georgia's geopolitical situation is quite problematic).

Does Canada want to completely open their borders-and make economic (give them CAD) & defence commitments-to country with an average $4000 annual GDP per capita, and that’s in a regional dispute with Russia? Convince Trudeau, be my guest 🤷‍♂️

NATO can't even protect itself.

@@maleknen1599 botski

@@maleknen1599 1. Why? 2. How does that change anything about Georgia not deserving to be on its own?

Because South Ossetia is NOT Georgia and didn’t want to be part of Georgia 100 years ago when they were forced to became autonomous region of Georgia, South Ossetia even then wanted to be part of the Russian Republic, the same as North Ossetia. Those were political mistakes of the then soviet leaders - separating South from North Ossetia. But probably they thought the USSR would never collapse

Who doesn't it ? With EU, NATO comes as a free package 📦📦

You seem to want Georgia to win the next Eurovision. We saw how mistreating Russians for 8 years worked out for Ukraine. Surely, more Russian discrimination is the answer 😂

And Yet , they gave it the the war torn Ukraine, the most corrupt country in continental Europe, being run by oligarchs’ clans . War torn country, occupied by Russia at this very moment. Apparently Eu’s co-called important standards , as you call them , didn’t not apply that much , when it came to the Ukraine’s membership.

@@henrymorgan9797 he has no common sense.

Heading gives it away: the aim of EU is NOT to help Georgia, but to fight Russia. Poor Georgians who are still fooled by hypocrite words from EU

@@henrymorgan9797 mistreating Russians?? You must be high

Russia is not after their religion.

Russia is not invading Ukraine because of religious differences, since Ukraine is also Orthodox

@@stevenkraft8070 Ukraine is largely Catholic

@@stevenkraft8070 nah...that is argument is wrong...Russia is homophobic that is why they invaded Ukraine

No, it is a dream, and the Georgians have showed how much they would fight for that dream Economics be damned, it's about the people

@@Pedanta I support Georgia where reasonable! But do we open ourselves up to every country in need? Who’s gonna pick up the tab for all the above? We’re heading towards a recession and have our own issues. The EU isn’t a charity organisation with loads of free money to hand out and jobs for all foreigners-but some seem to think it is. Ask first what Georgia can do for the EU and not vice versa.

@@matthewe467 I'm sorry life in the US is tough But the EU was not meant for war or power, but for peace. In that regard it is a mesmerising success. America helps defend the EU militarily through a mixture of lobbying from military firms and cultural ties. If this ends, very well, the EU is starting to pick up the slack already

@@matthewe467 Lol I wonder how it's possible to be this wrong. Brexit has been a resounding failure and the UK has been plagued with instability and a declining economy since the vote. Saying EU is a failure is nothing but a complete lack of understanding of geopolitics. The USA is failing to offer its citizens a good economic situation because they don't want to. Because they are a hypercapitalistic society where corporations hold power, and not the people. Fix your failing democracy first before criticizing others

@@matthewe467 Bot and his silly talking points. Would suggest that you write a book but it won't sell in the USA.

Georgia's military has the opportunity to do so.Russia moved most of their soldiers and equipment from their to Ukraine.

@@richlopez5896 No they didn't. That's a lie told by Western Media to incite countries to go to War only to have them end up like Ukraine. Russian Military is still in Georgia. They only use old Soviet Military equipment in Ukraine

as all the warmongers hope for

Who on earth can do that...not the Georgian military!

There are no russian separatists, as you said, there are two local nations on their historical land, so you are calling for a deportation of Georgian minorities. Where did l see such judgments...

Georgians are smart enough to be neutral. Switzerland was when it was tough time. Look at Switzerland now!

You can cancel trade agreements with Georgia and Russia has no say about nato membership as well. All countries are sovereign states and can decide by them self. Maybe u guys learn that after ur army burns down in Ukraine till the last person.

@@johanhirte9661 All countries are sovereign states ?? ASK Bush, Tony Blair, Sarkozy..!!

EU does count Turkey as a European country. EU accepted Turkey as a candidate to join the EU, but Turkey hasn't complied with the Copenhagen criteria (EU rules) required of new EU members yet. Basically Turkey hasn't passed the entrance exam.

@@timonsolus not talking about that, there are European countries that are not in the EU

Europe and asia are a single continent their division has historical reasons not scientific ones and the EU itself writes the caucasus countries and even Kazakhstan as possible future enlargement candidates

@@KennyNGA Kazakhstan is completely ridiculous. It is by no standards a European country.

@@markusberzborn6346 well if you look up what the meaning of the word continent is it's all ridiculous

@@KennyNGA You must be the smartest person in the room no one likes.

@@ChocoLater1 sorry I didn't know that you have a mental handicap but that was dumb it's so obvious

Well south ossetia and abhakzia already broke away from Georgia if u go and say that they are part of Georgia they will kill u and in the case of South ossetia they want to be part of their people in North ossetia and abhakzia want to be independent

"South Ossetia recently discussed holding a referendum on separating from Georgia and joining the Russian Federation" They already had the referendum of secession when Russia invaded

@@Alex.af.Nordheim The initial attacks were by the Georgian government on the break away areas before Russia intervened

Georgia meets many criteria and is even above of some EU member states, the problem is deeper, it's a geopolitical problem.

@@filiushermesio discounting balkans, which country are they above and in what criteria?

Neutral = destruction of your nation. Georgians and Ukrainians learned this the hard way. Never again.

You are right but this separatist regions are invented by Russia. We want peacifull life who wants to face this giant country? we are not mad but we have already lost huge chunk of our lands and we dont want more.

Will Russia let IDPs return who will quickly make Abkhazian majority ethnic Georgian again, just like how it was before ethnic cleansing? Let's see how that self-determination thingy plays out after that. Russia made 300k Georgians homeless and settled those two regions with even more of its loyalists, if you get rid of the unsympathetic portion of the population by genocide and mass expulsion, then settle the regions by your loyalists, you are gonna get those independece wannabes, sure.

@@davexorus9836 actually it was not a Russian invention... South Ossetia is a region in Northern Georgia and North Ossetia is a region in Southern Russia... They're more together than South Ossetia and Georgians.... And I know Georgia wants to live in peace. Georgia is my favourite country to visit. Extremely cheap extremely pretty. But 2008 crisis was not just Russian invention.. Georgians did try to take the separatist state by sending their army and also Georgia wanted to be part of Nato which obviously irked Russia. Moreover, why can't South Ossetia and Abkhazia be independent..? Their people wants independence and after the fall of USSR so many states got independence why not the states within the states?

@@davexorus9836 How i see this whole crisis Georgia, Armenia, Chechniya, Ukraine It's a bad divorce from the fall of USSR... So many people moved here and there and suddenly borders went up in a matter of days... Somebody should have negotiated. Redrawn the borders after looking at geography, ethnicities, religions etc etc.... Same thing is happening in Donbass where many don't want Ukraine now or in Moldova.... At the time of USSR fall Boris yelstin couldn't care less but this mess is because of lack of negotiated settlement after fall of USSR

It's pretty obvious that the Georgians are desperate since they are protesting for entrance while EU denied them. Boy what an upside-down reality you suffer.

EU and NATO should reject Georgia, and they should have rejected Ukraine. Russia is a superpower, if you provoke it you will pay a high price.

@ZDF Several thousand nuclear warheads speak loudly.

@ZDF Oil and gas. $200 billion of it a year. And North Korea's nuclear weapons does not even come close to compare with Russia's.

@ZDF Western technology is complete BS, Russia is completely capable of extracting oil and gas. Russia just wanted to be nice and let western powers share the spoils, but since that got no reciprocity, now westerners are out. Cause damage? No it's mutually assured extinction.

1. LGBTQ+ rights is a problem in Georgia yes 2. abortions are legal and have been for a long time now and no one is talking about changing the law 3. check 4. check 5. check 6. as soon as the govt. changes 7. as soon as the govt. changes 8. as soon as the govt. changes conservative majority right now is in their 50s-60s im talking about those who were born and raised in the ussr and have been subjected to the brainwashing for years. candidacy doesn’t mean acceptance and a country can have a status for 10+ years without becoming an eu member. a lot can change in that time

US-EU should stay out of it!! They should NOT fund any anti Russian activities including NGO's!!

Don’t people here are racists

@@varundwivedi3197 lol. How true is that

Well, it's not that hard.

they have tiny land in europe and also they are close enough, but they should wait till 2030-35 at least

@@e.v3832 Maybe My 2035 EU will Loose it's Relevancy .... Just Like BREXIT , Other Important Countries Could Exit EU

it is

Poland seems to be doing its part fairly well. Cooperatively nationalistic. It fascinates me. I think of Estonia, where I spent a lot of time. A lot of Americans look at Europe and the European Union as a sort of post national Utopia, and are throwing their Facebook pictures behind Ukraine without realizing that a lot of Eastern Europe is in the EU because of nationalism. The history between Ukraine and Poland isn't all hugs and kisses, which makes it nice to see how much Poland is trying to help. It was the first, I believe, to diplomatically recognize an independent Ukraine and Lithuania. I know there are other issues, but Eastern Europe definitely has its own perspective. It strikes me how poorly Americans, a lot of Europeans and even Russians don't really know the messy history of Eastern Europe very well. One fascinating tidbit I always throw out there is how differently we conceptualize World War I. Here in America November 11th is veterans Day, as a way to remember those who died... and basically the pointlessness of World War I. In Poland, it's Independence Day. World War I didn't solve everything, and it was horrifically violent, but it was an opportunity. 1939 wasn't just about how Germany was treated. 1939 was about the collapse of empires, movement of peoples, and the reassessing of the rights of people to be nations. Of course, Poland wasn't entirely innocent. But for me that's another important thing about the European Union. It's not just formed from a struggle with nationalism, but also from a struggle for nations to exist. There's a lot of complexity in balancing that. Fascinating to me. Utterly fascinating.

Plus we don’t want more (relatively) poor Eastern European / Asian nations to dump more of our tax money on, and open the borders to.

We don't care if Georgia become a EU member. We only care about NATO military bases.

Well Europe should be scared, and learn to treat Russia with respect it deserves.

@@nintendokings Read one history book about georgia please and where are you from?

@@henrymorgan9797 they tried. look what came out of it

Where have you been ? Russia already invaded them not so long ago for no reason so ofcourse they want safety from EU

@@joesantana6429 Or if I say will to have NATO membership, threaten Russian federation... Ok even if its EU the most hypocrite organization in the world regarding human right and international law...

@@joesantana6429 ignorent statement. In September 2008, Miguel d'Escoto Brockmann, the president of the UN General Assembly, claimed that Georgia "committed an act of aggression against South Ossetia and violated UN Charter."[155]

@@joesantana6429 They were invaded because the same reasons as Ukraine.Trying to join nato when you're Russias neighbor is not a good idea.

They are not European. They would like to be, because Europe is wealthy, free and not run by corrupt dictators

Politics

Becoz if u accept LGBTq then ur in eu directly

who says turkey isn't ? turkey much european than these nations

@@e.v3832 becoz of asian minar..other than nothing same like georgia or Armenia

@Elena D honestly I know about the history but in my opinion Georgia 🇬🇪 is so far away from the EU in thinking of the map alone. It has its very unique language and making enorm progress in the last years in terms of literally anything also tourism. It should be neutral and be in the EU like Norway with special economic relations and friendship.

@@mcmurdostation7134 ur correct..it's very far away from mainland Europe

That is a dream..first read about terms and conditions of eu

Poor insignigicant poland should first take control of Stepan Bandera fascists groups in Poland and Lviv.

They should be helped in creating governments that function better but they can't be granted membership at this moment. Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe, everything is so god damn unfair to their citizens.

Russia will never allow Georgia or Ukraine to be in EU. Forget it.

@Katye Dyakova why didn’t the US allow Ukraine to keep their elected president in 2014?

Russia would invade Georgia if EU did what they did in Ukraine.

because that s justice

The only things that do....are negotiations. Look at what Erdogan did last Friday

@@babblo1389 Erdogan has no problem tweaking Putin. I can't say I mind that.

@@williamtell5365 Westerners usually don't have any understanding of geopolitics.

Georgia is bound to be high up on Putin's hit list of countries he wants to conquer for his new Russian Empire.

Guess you really want Georgia to win the Eurovision, huh?

And watch Georgia go up in smoke, just like Ukraine.

Get my country's flag off your profile pic!

Open boarder policy is gone buddy

no no and no! UK must never be allowed to come back and I look forward to trading on WTO

@@rustypipe Of course they should and of course they will. The next generations there have all grown up as Europeans and they will vote in favour of anything required to bring UK back. Plus, the multilateral economy benefits all sides.

@@rustypipe lmfao the eu would jump at the chance for the uk to rejoin. i wouldnt keep your hopes too high either, since they just got a new president who wasnt in support of leaving eu :)

They're protesting against their own government, not the EU.

@@wamingo "EU should have accepted us to send a message to Russia"

@@waynebruce24893 It's still a protest against their own government. They (and Brussels) believe Georgian government isn't sincere in their application. The EU thinks they just want to be a troublemaker if given membership.

@@wamingo per the EU, they can't join given the instability and conflict that Georgia has with Russia. They're protesting their own government, but if anything they should be protesting against EU since it's EUs decision. Georgia can't stop Russia alone. The Georgian govt is in a catch 22 situation with Russia.

integration, centralisation and cooperation lead to efficiency. Imagine a time where countries did not yet exist. Now imagine how inefficient their societies were. With centralisation an entity gains efficiency. Yes, not everything may be perfect but a system doesn't need to be. USA is one of the most prosperous countries in the world yet there are many flaws in their system. The EU is the same. Being bigger, being able to pull more levers increases control over a society which in turn increases its efficiency. This allows an entity to prosper. Imagine how destructive it would be if all states of the USA would decide to not be the USA anymore. They would be 50 small countries, leading to a horrific loss of efficiency.. think trade barriers, war, many different types of territorial disputes and lack of cooperation. Things naturally expand as they do well. Its one of natures laws.

EU's Mutual Defence Clause - Article 42.7 Basically NATO, minus US, Canada, Turkey and some other non-EU countries

@@Habib_Osman time of eu is over..it's multipolar world baby

Good point. The EU is not the only economic union. Why not BRICS? Or not EEU? Instead of begging and asking "please take us to the EU", why not just make an effective, self-sufficient economy? Instead of depending on someone else.

Georgia is working hard by themselves to meet EU requirements and would be an great member of the Union. If they join the EU can help at certain parts to start up the economy and eventually Georgia will be just like the others. Every country started like that and transforms that way to a member. Together strong! I mean look at places like the Baltics or Balkan how much progress can be made simply by becoming a member. It definitely helps.

They won't be independent, they will be absorbed into Russia.

Georgia is Europe, so is Armenia.

You 're a little bit naïeve. You can't talk with Russia. Its their way or terror.

Good leadership is the central point , people . Go get good people to become your leaders

@@soepdurp Agree . But good leadership can do a lot of things to your country

Russians can't even have a negotiation with Russia.

They do.

You're wrong

Currently europe is a bankruptcy

Indeed, because Kosovo isnt a country, you cant have a territorial dispute with your occupied province.

@@henrymorgan9797 Kosovo is recognized by more than 100 countries including the majority of Western ones.

@DolphinsWIthIgloos accepted as a candidate nation, but it amounts to the same thing for Ukraine. no one will have the guts to vote against the most corrupt country in Europe being fast tracked and admitted.

@Elena D no one is arguing that corruption doesn't exist in some countries, but we all know it exists to a lot greater extent in some countries rather than others. I don't know where Russia and Ukraine are in the "Corruption Table" but I know Russia is not a candidate nation for the EU, but Ukraine is, so from a European perspective, it's Ukrainian corruption that must be scrutinized.

@DolphinsWIthIgloos i disagree. i don't think saint zelensky or his successor will have to do any cleanup. with "Russia bad, Ukraine good" as the narrative of the West, Ukraine will be admitted no problem. just like Ukraine won the Eurovision Song Contest, a political decision, no questions asked. we'll see.

Albania is in a much better state than both Ukraine and Georgia. It’s far ahead in judicial and political reforms required by EU. It’s GDP per capita is more than double , it’s already a reliable NATO member, and geographically is surrounded by EU and most importantly, doesn’t have any territorial issues with its neighbors. Having said that though, i wish good luck to both Ukraine and Georgia in their process of joining NATO and EU. As a NATO member Albania already supports their accession to the alliance.