fred smith Thank you for being the comic relief in this comment section. LOL

Your ability to hate is what impresses me even more!

fred smith 😂😂

YouAreNotCool 😂👏🏼

Lmao u funny

But you have to be fair to him, by that he did not mean she should affirm the wedding, but he only meant she should do it as a demonstration of love. His advice is still disagreeable, but we should be accurate about what he precisely meant

@@ead630 agreed and thats a fair point. however, showing up is affirmation in and of itself which would not be a demonstration of love.

Amen.

Yes, you're right.I just came across Pastor John now , as one does on this platform..Bless you.May God keep you in good stead

Nice story lol

Exactly!!!

Modern day Pharisee ..when jesus went to the home of the tax collector they said exactly the same thing to him ......

Aren't you *so* brave?

Nik L amen I'm with you I'm tired of cowards and people that's not standing up for truth

This pastor believes Catholics will go to heaven

@@mayacharrat6401 Why would God call them out of Babylon if there were none to be saved there?🤔

A real man of God....??? Really

So it's okay and not foolish if you sell your Daughter as a sex slave, who can then sell her to his son when he is bored with her too as per Exodus 21:7?

@@j.n.3577 Why does it matter ro "you" what she takes literally...? 🤔

@@msladymack1960 She's making a hypocritical point on a public comment forum, I'm calling it out. SIMPLE. What point are you making other than posting a useless question?

​@@j.n.3577 You have to understand the Bible and the sequence of events. Old Testament deals with Israel being under "The Law". They were far from perfect people, but they were chosen by God. For them, God issued 10 commandments and 600+ laws because they were so corrupted in their hearts that no one would survive if every sin was punishable by death. Those laws were made for Israel and they are not to be taken out of context. Those laws don't reflect the personality of God, they just reflect the corruption of Israel. Jesus on the other hand reflects the personality of God, He gave the 2 commandments that overwrite all 600 of them. Matthew 22:37-40 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments. People try too hard to depict God anything else but love. You have to study the Bible and see for yourself.

@@tygerovi Those evil laws cannot be dismissed since it was cruel behavior condoned. There isn't any context that makes it morally acceptable unless you condone/passively endorse human (sex) trafficking which the Scripture there clearly does. I'm not claiming it reflects any god, esp. since the Bible was written by men. Ceremonial laws may have been abolished, but that is the only thing I've seen, such as certain dietary and clothing restrictions.

An easy search: BIBLE + FREEMASONRY, through which lies and truth becomes easy listed. So far i have listed 28 lies and 28 truth. Have you started to dig? What have you found? What do you know about masonry club? About the evil rulers of this world, masons, what you know about them?

Walking with Christ as He commands will only get harder, but the cost of falling away is just too great to go any other way

Amen

@@josephzanes7334 So true and when you love God and are in a relationship with Him, being without Him is not an option...

It is really tough I also have a prodigal cousin, and No did not attend, but love him with all my heart❤

@@ToninoterRessort We put our complete trust in Christ, turn from our sin and to His righteousness and He will change us! I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

Please may I share my testimony with you. I always knew that I was gay, and from a very young age I prayed to God asking Him to take these tendencies away. Many years later on one particularly bad night, I believed I was going to die. In the depth of my despair, I asked Lord Jesus for forgiveness and to my surprise He answered me. My spirit has burst into such powerful flames of love and mercy that it has seemed as if I was totally dissolved in Him. By this stage I was already in a loving relationship with my partner, and when I asked Jesus if I should leave my partner. The Lord told me to regard him as my husband

@@jean-pauldebeer8151 God can not more clearer on teaching of sexual immortality.

​@@jasonhockly8655 Unfortunately many do not possess the correct orthodox understanding on scripture and Christians feel that repentance is a once off act. Repentance is a life long struggle, one that continually demands that we analyse the sinfulness within our selves and seek the mercy of God to overcome these sinful tendencies. Pointing out the sinfulness in others is a judgmental sinful tendency that needs to be repentances of. The Pharisees were very happy to point out the sinfulness and shortcomings in others but failed to see their own. Jesus condemned this behavior. By pointing out the sinfulness in others we become like the Pharisees who were very happy to have St Mary Madelaine stoned. We behave the same way when we throw scripture to others to highlight their sinfulness. But Jesus said that those are are free from sin may cast the first stone. I always find it helpful to regard myself as the worst of all sinners. As this puts me in a position of humility and powers where it makes it easier to never judge others.

Mesopotamians defined marriage as they had the first documented marriage thousands of years before Christianity even existed.

@@sjoperdje God is technically before the age of Christianity.

It really doesn't apply. While he quotes 1 Cor 6 he forgets 1 Cor 5:9-12 I wonder how many people invite unbelieving friends to their Christian weddings, does that then make their wedding acceptable and unbelieving, well looking at the divorce rate maybe they are unbelieving to begin with, or valid why would we think our attendance in some way means affirmation. When you protest something you can do it in many ways I would have taken a Bible as a gift and highlight every passage. We are to make disciples use your opportunities as you can. Maybe it would be good to sit and cry at these physicalist humanist "weddings" or "marriages" or "unions" because it is truly a sad occasion. It should be attended as anyone attends a funeral.

​@SavioursWon but what you're saying when you state, "use your opportunities as you can" is that the end justifies the means. But we know that we have to do what is pleasing in the eyes of the Lord. Just because we we might be able to "disciple" them by showing love at their wedding (if we can call it that), doesn't mean it's the right thing.

@@mhwt565 ("use your opportunities as you can" is that the end justifies the means) that is clearly a false equivalence, making disciples is pleasing to the Lord. It is the duty of all Christians. Further "17But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” 19These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. 20But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, 21keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life. 22Be merciful to those who doubt; 23save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear-hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh." Try to understand, Christians are like people who have a cold and are contagious and they go around to others who also have a cold and they sit there giving each other c cold when what we are supposed to do is be contagious to others. You cannot live in isolation and be effective in the ministry. This is the reason I previously posted 1 Cor 5. God bless.

​@@SavioursWon Watch Justin Peter's pastoral response to Beggs. This should help to unpack the deeper principles of what is acceptable/unacceptable and why according to the Bible as long as you are one of us that follow that, not our own understandings or feelings

@@KNIGHTFOX80 yeah long winded and sorry they never once show why going to this event was actually sinful, they just make weak analogies and make up things about what Jesus would or would not doand try and say that the gospel accounts for everything that Jesus did, they poison the well, make strawman arguments about what the sermon was about and I get they felt offended by his response but he really never needed to respond to begin with or apologise, nor should the church act like cancel culture thugs we see running around, what they have to do is show the sinfulness of being in attendance is sinful and this they are unable to do, the only reason I would not send someone to this event is because it may affect them seeing the degradation but not everyone is so thin skinned that they are unable to stand firm on the truth in the face of evil and show God's love that He came down and walked among filthy disgusting constantly sinning sinners in all their daily and constant filth and hatred and blasphemy of God. Please we really need to see God's love clearly and not invent this idea to not infiltrate and influence the culture the world or the church will become irrelevant. Hey but maybe I'm just not so bright and all these clever people are just far too smart. You have to deal with 1 Cor 5 and other passages which tell us to influence the culture. Please notice not once didBegg and neither have I affirmed this marriage as such or claimed it tobe a valid marriage/wedding etc.

+Cindy w Thanks - the truth is homosexuality is not in the original text of the Bible, its not a sin to be homosexual

Whether it uses the term or not, the meaning is still the same. The original text was translated so all can read it and understand it, not to change the meaning. If we are going to follow your logic then maybe stealing and all the other sins should be thrown out as well because it was originally written in a different language.

+imdaboss426 Amen! That's true!

+imdaboss426 Amen! That's true!

imdaboss426 He never used a word that said or means homosexual - that is the point. It has been re and mistranslated to say something that is not in the original text. Homosexuality is not a sin in the original text of the Bible.

God doesn't exist

Amen

He is right though! I am conflicted by attending one myself so I think I will stay at home.

He is a clown

@@cfoodsmella1041 i think you are

@@blossom86branche70 I bet you do, I think your full of hate

Just like in Elijahs time God is showing us that there’s many still out there who have not bowed their knee to the false gods of this generation

Okay Karen

Lucarara you're welcome, Karen 😆

sad to see a young lady indoctrinated with this kind of hatred. I hope you will spend time to think about the evidence for your specific God and the inexistence of the thousands of others you just happen to not have been born into.

you're gonna have to explain to the big man one day why you had so much hate in your heart during your time here

Hey Craig, Wow. Someone's done some research here. I'll reply to this but I really can't let it turn into a debate. As for it being my opinion, the Scriptures say what they say. It's pretty clear. Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Judges 19: 22-23, 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10, and there are a couple of others. The scriptures never use the word "homosexual" in the original languages because the word wasn't used then, just as it wasn't in many of the earlier English translations. But the truth is there. As for them being "unchanged by man," they were translated into English. But that doesn't invalidate the meaning. God intended man to be with woman in marriage and sexual intimacy (which is only within marriage). I highly recommend reading the scriptures I listed above in many of the translations you listed. Read them in light of both Romans chapter 1 and Jude vs. 7. And also search out the meanings of the words in the Greek and Hebrew, including the moods, tenses, etc. Honestly, I doubt either of us will be able to change the opinions of the other but as I said in my previous comment, if the scriptures contradict what I've listed or said here, I'm certainly open to seeing them. And please understand, as I said, it's not about opinions. I follow Jesus Christ as my King. He is the Word of God. And if God says something is against His will, I must line up with it. Thanks for the comments Craig.

@@SuperFreeamerican And what were marriages, in Deuteronomy 21:13, and Numbers 31:18, intended to be there, and executed how, and how consensually, also? Expansion potentially desired, here. Also, what was His will, during the blood libel, Inquisition, and the slave trade, within past Christendom? That was explicit, I mean? Rather than inferred.

My sympathy for you.

Please don't stop praying and loving on your son!

Why are you sick at heart ? There is not one of us without sin ...your son you say is angry at god for making him gay ..... understand please ...his anger is because man judges him so called Christians judge him ...n yet ...whom of us can say we no longer sin ,? If the lord met with him n he will .his response to him would be very very different from the response of the church that he was brought up in ....pray for him ....yes but also I pray for all those whom made him feel the worst ..and excluded.. actually Paul said he was the worst of sinners ....don't worry ...his ways are not our ways neither his thoughts ours ....my prayers are for healing for you ...nnin so too healing for him

Unconditional love ...that is the lord's way ...I sense in your heart your inclined to that ...n it is right ...do not do not say look your wrong it's against God ...unless you yourself are totally without sin ....because even a thought a passion a small sin is still against God ....n we all fall short...but the problem is your telling him he falls way shorter than you ....missing the mark is missing the mark ....that's why he came ...for all of us n that's why Saint Paul in the new testiment said he was the cheif of sinners ...may God bless you n trust he hears the heart of man humbled xxxxccmuch love ...ask God to deal with you .n me ...n then once that happens healing will come....I can tell you this because me n my family have been thru this

Unconditional love that is the lord's way

Thank you for sharing your experience. New-ish to Christ 🙏 and this comment helped me. Gracias

Isn't it awful to have a mother who doesn't share or at least understand your reverence to God's will? The Bible says that He will come between a father and son, a mother and daughter...etc. and that we are to choose God first over everyone, including ourselves and our families. I hope all is well with you since that day 40 years ago. The reward for your faithfulness is waiting for you!

I came across your comment as i was watching the video. Currently my fiance is in a similar situation, his sister is getting "married" she invited us both, in which i say thanks for the invite but i can't attend. But his mother said he needs to go, even though she knows he does not agree with this union to begin with, she "believes in God' but she is not a firm believer. My mother in law is permitting this, and she is okay with it or seems like it, and i think her way of showing love is by going and being present. My fiance's dad is more of a solid believer and sound in scripture but he pretty much does what the wife says or feels obligated to go because is his daughter and also bc my mother in law makes it seem like a "you must go" My mother in law even told my fiance that she wouldn't come to our wedding if he doesn't go to his sisters, that broke my heart tbh. We both know we would not feel comfortable at all attending and pretending to be okay with it and how piper mentioned "lying" about it being okay. I can see he is very hurt by this because is his family and to be put in a situation like this "if you dont go... then i wont.." especially from his mother. I just pray the Lord continue to give him the strength to stay firm and faithful to the Lord and do what honors him.

@@saturn722 However, after 2 Samuel 24, and Hosea 9, why on Earth should I do that? And how do you view 'marriages' such as in Deuteronomy 21:13, and Numbers 31:18, also?

@@chrissonofpear1384 Why don’t you just ask me your question?

even though u should go to a friends same sex wedding eh

pastor brian Who even said that? You must have been listening to an entirely different video.

@@drdianneLc on this video.

You seem like a Karen

Kindness? Fuck off

Yes Amen!

WAIT! So your saying that not accepting someone for who they truly are is full of LOVE? How does that make sense? If anyone in the comments can answer me that, I would greatly appreciated.

Alex, you can love someone but disagree with them, or believe they are doing something wrong. If your dog chews up your living room, you think that was bad of your dog but you still love him. If someone you love killed someone, committed adultery, robbed a bank, etc., you might think those actions are wrong, but you still love them and care about them. Tolerance is being civil with that person, even if they are doing things you don't accept as moral. If your brother keeps annoying you and you take it patiently, you are being tolerant. To be tolerant suggests there is something you are being tolerant of that you dislike, or else there's no need to tolerate it. You are happy! Did that give clarity? Another thing to note is that there is no evidence of a gay gene. People are not born homosexual or lesbian. It's certainly a multifactoral thing, very complex, but this is something that God can heal.

Dawn, I fully accept that the reason you think that homosexuality is wrong is because of your religion. It says in the bible that it is wrong, ergo it is wrong. But I do wish that people of your persuasion would not then make unsubstantiated statements such as ' people are not born homosexual or lesbian' Really? Are you an expert on homosexuality? If not, what research are you quoting? I assume you must be quoting convincing scientific research, otherwise you wouldn't make such a statement as if it were an undisputed fact. And what exactly do you mean by it's a 'multifactoral' thing? Explain, please.

John, that's a fair question. Yes, I have done research on this very topic as I wrote a book called, "Fully Persuaded." www.amazon.com/Fully-Persuaded-Dawn-Foss/dp/1632688875. I had a section on homosexuality in this book. I'm also a family nurse practitioner. Here is a link from the Christian Medical and Dental Association, of which I'm a member. which will give you a wonderful outline about the basic beliefs from a medical standpoint, with a biblical worldview. You see, science doesn't change, but perspectives on the data do. If you are anti-God, you will view it through those lenses. If you are pro-God, you will view life through those lenses. It's called a biblical vs. secular world view. The links below are statements from the Christian Medical and Dental Assoc. and then I also included a link to Focus on the Family's site on this topic as well. Let me know if you have any questions. cmda.org/resources/publication/homosexuality-ethics-statement www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues/sexuality/understanding-same-sex-attractions/are-people-really-born-gay

All you can do is share the Word of GOD with them. After that your job is done, it is now their decision to make

Good Grief….

Im sure those baby girls are going to grow up loved and free to find Jesus just the same. I have several friends of same sex marriage raising children and those children are precious and perfect and doing perfectly fine. Celebrate their life as much as you can without judging their circumstance because that’s the true way to love others in the face of disagreement

Perverse and mentally sick world we live in, when we even consider the abomination of 2 men getting married as even close to legitimate. Marriage is for a man and woman. Adam and Eve, NOT Adam and Steve.

I didn't go to my sons either.I couldn't pretend I am happy with it....

Brick Shots TV is it unloving to not attend because of their orientation?

@@mnight207 No. It would be unloving to condemn them though. It would also be unloving to condone their sin which would ultimately destroy them (unless they repent).

But if you believe in the bible then you're contradicting yourself it is a sin to follow false prophets right so how do you know these were the prophets of god who wrote this bullshit you don't because no man can claim theyre the prophet of god I listen to god not men #Getwoke

Your son was lucky then. Hope he and his husband had a lovely day. You are the one that missed out on one of the most important days in his life and he was better off without you there.

Awwww, so sorry ☹☹

Sounds like your dad was the man. I believe you’ll see him again.

If an all BUT “Baby Christian” couldn’t give this answer they, and/or their pastor are guilty of inadequate or poor Bible study and teaching. Maranatha!

Really? It just seemed nasty and full of hate. Oddly the bible does not mention lesbianism, although obviously this represents the patriarchal time in which it was written.

Actually paster I think if you read the words of Jesus he said in heaven no man or woman will be given unto marriage so maybe you may not know him ..as you think you do we should all be careful to not make god in our own image or understanding ....now I know the typical protestant answer ...but we have the mind of Christ .....so we can say n declare ....jesus wrote on the sand when the prostirute stood accused ...turned to the pharacies n said let the first among you without sin cast first stone ...n then he turned to her n said woman were are your accusers ...? So therefore you have none ..neither do I ....go n sin no more .....sin ? What is sin ? .it's the act of selfishness ..doing something to put yourself n own needs before another ..or God ....when you judge these people paster ...be careful ...you do not know what is within there hearts ..n trust that in many hetrosexual relationships there is the seed of terrible self gratification ...

@@93Current Oh but it does. "That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other." - Romans 1:26

Steven Mcleish lol it seems full of hate... sheesh. Someone is overly obsessed with modern living and doesn’t understand the Biblical literature. He said it as politely and calmly as possible, just clarifying that it is a sin based on the information found in the Bible. That, to God, a marriage is between a man and a woman. So while the “marriage” is a cultural, or lawful marriage in the eyes of the culture or government, it is not a Marriage as defined by the Old Testament nor New Testament. In fact, both Testaments define it as sin, so to attend and pretend it isn’t sinful in accordance to the Word of God is just that, it would be pretending.

So if you're gay and get killed in a car accident, do you go straight to hell since you didnt have time to repent your sin of being gay?

+Claudia Romanov Biblical fact - homosexuality is not wrong. Piper needs to repent for spreading false Gospel

Sarah Flara If you say Piper is not wrong - then you are saying God is wrong. God never said 1 word about homosexuality why is Piper. God said many kinds of relationships, marriage was ok. Fact is the Bible does not say or mean homosexuality is a sin - in the original text - why do you and Piper thing otherwise. It is not Christian to go against God. Its time real Christian step up and stop the crap dogma this is not Christ Like.

Sarah Flara If you believe homosexuality is a sin - then yep you are not with Christ; you are not a true Christian. Like Piper you twist and turn God's Word. Just like when you say read Rom. In the original text homosexuality was not a sin - so how it is a sin in your Bible?

Sarah Flara There is no argument - Biblical fact - original text - homosexuality is not a sin. Yes, God gave you free will, believe as you wish. What I, and many others are doing and will continue to do is untwist what has been twisted. Know God loves you no matter, same as God loves me. Bye

***** Homosexuality is not a sin in the original text of the Bible. If you knew the Word of God like you claim - you would know the truth.

Great, well articulated response.

Greg Miller Thank you... You have a blessed and wonderful day.

Well said!

I totally agree! Well said!

ORIGINAL MAN CONCEPTS / DIATRIBE Your kids are gay

This is why i love john Piper!

Truth, truth? From who’s perspective.

@@davidmeyers8230 the Bible

No as in what? What are you saying no to? The video?

@@JesusisLOVEJohn- I would never attend a gay wedding. no. never and no!

@@justtony21 Oh, yeah agreed. I just didn't know what you were saying "no" to.

@@JesusisLOVEJohn- its all good!!!

It is sad that we've got to point that America is so unrepentant that people are prideful about it.

While it should be obvious, so many have been deluded & are afraid of “offending” anyone. There are so many who fall for the lies of the devil & bow to the desires of man.

I think they ask the question so that non believers can understand why we think the way we think.

@@drdianneLc yes i agree.

@@truth-Hurts375 true and good point.

One of the pastors at our church said she went to one to let the people know she loved them, right where they were. I had a hard time understanding her because just showing up is affirmation.

But Piper is not speaking the Truth.

hate and homophobia doesn't make me feel pride

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Yes!!! Finally someone not afraid to tell the absolute truth! I have honestly never heard many pastors speak about this topic so honest and raw...so there is NO confusion about what he believes. I honestly think some of these high profile pastors should take notes. Imagine the deliverance and salvation as a result.

@@Natasha-kg1zw assume lies are truth then for u?

@@pastorbri Not sure what you mean here but I see you are all over the comments with this homophobic rhetoric. Either way, I still stand by what I said. Praise God for the undiluted word of God!!! Hallelujah!! I guess the truth makes people feel uncomfortable. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

+Coby Vance he is not bronze age, you're the bullshit

LINDSAY BENITEZ you’re right on, it’s the same thing! Marriage is a covenant & when you attend a wedding you are being a witness to the covenant. So it’s definitely important for us to be in prayer and have discernment about whether or not to attend a wedding!

Yes exactly. I agree with everything he says but your question is so valid too.

Just a quick thought but I disagree. Whenever a marriage occurs with one man and one woman, God recognizes that as a marriage whether they attribute it to Him or not. Versus a "same-sex marriage" is more just a worldy ritual and doesn't have any Biblical support whatsoever.

@@wengel_eth I think theyre referring to cases like say a divorcee who is remarrying.

@@ayoiawe Ahh, I see. If that's the case then it depends on the life status of the other divorcee (if the former spouse is dead then the marriage covenant is broken). But otherwise I would treat it the same as the same-sex ritual.

That's the best insight into the Christian view of this topic I have read, and it didn't come from a Christian either.

You’re so right. Thank you

The way you explained it was beautiful!

Well, sexuality and relationships derived from it are not analogous to math. Secondly, a belief system that does not distinguish between consenting adults and what they do and people transgressing others in some way isn't one I have any interest in at all.

homophobis is not truth

Just because you do not join in to other peoples activities does not make you prejudice . Its called keeping yourself unspotted from the world.

and homosexuality is not a sin. This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.

homophobia is neither love or compassion

@@craigd9896 Did you ever read Judges 9:23? Or Amos 9:4? Or 2 Kings 10, too, potentially? There is more muddiness, here, than you might think.

Because in every wedding there is a ceremony of procreation, but in a gays function, there is no such procreation ceremony and so it cannot be called wedding.

Because of love. People can get bornagain anytime. www.anewcreationinchrist.nl/english

You weren't asked.

@@tofunwatoyinbo Yes I was, the question is the title.

Kenny Johnson lol true

I doubt it is healthy to automatically assume that someone is more important than you

@Mason Moore yeah but if you are wrong about this whole god thing, then you are wrong for eternity. If the believers were wrong, well, then it would have only mattered to them for the life they lived, for how many years, but it wouldn't have mattered anyway because their existence doesn't exist anymore.

mans love > god's love apparently if people are able to accept homosexual love but god isn't

@@jmalta2 Where do you think, we have a sense to love? Where do you think it comes from lol

Given that there is no god, this comparison is false.

Its hard for them to understand that unfortunately. Love is no approving of someones self destruction but they see it as us destroying them by not going along with it. The normalization of this prevents people from taking a proper stance.

@@enriqued8220 The truth that God sent His sinless Son into a sinful world you would think that we be enough to convince people that with drawing our (God's people) presence from those who are still dead in their as we once where would be enough to show that God's mercy triumphs over judgment and that if we truly hope for the absence of evil in a person's life them we as God's people must bring the Presence of God into their lives Yes God's love and Him Presence is certainly not approval for our sins Where would be now if God had abandoned us when we were once lost in our sins My brother died 12 years ago he was gay but because of God's love shown through God's people and their prayer's of faith hope and love for him he repented and turned back to Jesus Christ before he died If we totally reject the sinner who will they turn to when they begin to reach out to God 🙏❤️ The prodigal son left the father the father never left the prodigal son I will never leave you or forsake you is God's promise to us If only we could be more like God Jesus Christ is Alive 🙏❤️

@@satellitesurfrockanthonyak5738 God hates the sinner not the sin. This isn't personal I try to tell people but people are so attached to their sin that it becomes personal to them unfortunately. We need to teach grace before judgment but if we reject grace judgement does come eventually and im happy your brother was able to repent from his lifestyle. Sin at the end of the day is just selfishness. People have becomes lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God. Theres a fine line between being graceful with people and being cowardly. If there's a hole in front of your brother or sister it is your duty to tell them about that hole in front of them and not let them think that you agree with the lifestyle. The reality is some people just haven't had their ideas challenged and we shouldn't sacrifice telling the truth in order to appease a lifestyle we know is wrong for fear of offending someone. The worlds normalization of this lifestyle has really blurred peoples lines of whats acceptable and not when just a couple decades ago the answer was clear but now people are too politicaly correct to rebuke the LGBT religion. They've moved the overten window and im not moving with it.This is bigger than all of us and the sooner people realize that the better. Grace is important but just as important is the fear of God and thats the key element thats missing from people that live this lifestyle. We don't want people to deal with God's wrath because it is the worst thing that can be upon you. We want them to remember to appreciate God's grace and let those things go so they don't have to deal with that wrath that's coming. People are too shortsighted to see this thats why its our job to remind them because if you don't then you have blood on your hands but only God can change someone's heart. Its our job to remind people of God's grace but also his judgement. And if you understand God's judgement then it leads you right into his grace. Scares you straight so to speak no pun intended lol thankfully God's grace is amazing and people still have time to repent and im thankful for that and thankful your brother had one last shot before it was time to leave from here. Long story short you either get convicted of your sin in this world and repent from it or you'll face God with it when you leave and we all know thats a recipe for disaster. This is why Jesus said to forgive them for they do not know what they do. Because if they did know then they wouldn't be doing what their doing but let's hope and pray more people see the error in their ways so they may too be apart of eternity with God and not sacrifice is for temporary wicked pleasure.

For judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment James 2:13 Take notice, therefore, of the kindness and severity of God: severity to those who fell, but kindness to you, if you continue in His kindness. Otherwise you also will be cut off Romans 11:22 Whether saint or sinner we all desperately need God Lest we forget ❤ Jesus Christ is God

@@satellitesurfrockanthonyak5738 thank you for those verses they were edifying to me. This verse from Matthew chapter 10 really spoke to me id like to share it with you. Its something I truly feel at this time and its the words of the Lord Jesus Christ who is God.Amen. ssage Resources Hebrew/Greek Your Content Matthew 10 King James Version 10 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. 2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; 3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; 4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him. 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. 8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. 9 Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, 10 Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat. 11 And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence. 12 And when ye come into an house, salute it. 13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. 16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. 21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. 23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. 24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household? 26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. 32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. 39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. 40 He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. 41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward. 42 And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward. God bless you and thank you for the verses. Mercy truly great thanks to God. It is one of many and maybe the most important gift of them all. With that being said may God have mercy on all of us. And we may he wise enough to ask for it.

Charlene Bains:stay the course, run the race, endure. We are to love God more than man, even our very own family. If your Dad truly loved with the agape love he should have for his child, then your opinion of his lifestyle would not stop him loving you. Sadly the human heart is more wicked, more deceptive than most of us begin to acknowledge. Sexual preference is not something we are born with. This one of the greatest lies of the devil. If people were born 'gay' then people are born 'pedophile'. Taste for certain things is not what we are, it is simply we get a taste and a liking and so have preferences through experiences and by how our minds process these experiences. Love your Dad, pray for him daily, never give up hope. Being reborn in the spirit changes not only hearts (love of evil) but changes mind (having the mind of Christ in us) and we turn from sin which is essentially everything that harms us and separates us from God.

I really have sympathy for what u going through with ur father. But also i praise u for standing so strong and so bold in ur faith. U can do exactly what our Lord has warn us in Matthew 10:34-39. i doubt that i can do the same if i were in ur place. so cheer up and always look to our Lord Jesus face, let the holy spirit comfort u n give u strength. u have experience what a follower of Jesus must experience. Let's what is said in acts 5:41 comfort u, that u were counted worthy to suffer shame for His name. Keep pray for the work of Holy Spirit so ur father can know and accept the truth n changed.

Charlene Bains good for you Charlene! What you did was actually much more loving and caring than attending would have been. Love is seldom about going along with what looks good, sounds good, or feels good.

Praying for you and your father. Hoping that the relationship may not sever any deeper and that reconciliation may happen.

You did NOT do anything wrong. I pray that your dad will see the error of his ways and repent knowing that God loves him very much but not his sin. Most of all I pray that you are alright and that you never ever give up...give in...or compromise because those who are in sin have a tendency to make those who are obedient to God feel bad. And make you feel the emotional blackmail. But you are not alone. Know that there are other ppl facing the same test and trials in their walk with God. Amen.

Sorry, he is not speaking Biblical fact.

Yes, he is and you know it

N.... No

@@erinisatree9970 y...yes and if you read the bible you would know it to.

its rare for homophobics to speak truth

Karen alerttt!!!

The man is a bigot, and hateful.

no, he is not. maybe you are though

RebekahSing I am not preaching / teaching and twisting the Bible as Piper the Bigot does.

you're the one who is twisting the bible!! it's clear on homosexuality!

RebekahSing I am not preaching / teaching and twisting the Bible as Piper the Bigot does. Its very clear to those with their eyes open, homosexuality is not in the Bible.

@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?

but we should go to a friends wedding

Fair Point 1 second ago The usual unoriginal thoughts of those inured in Bronze Age fairy tales. Not one iota of tangible evidence to support their flatulent musings.

You obviously missed the point.

Who cares about disrespecting “man”. Respect God’s truth

@@thevulture5750 When did he say that? Just curious I genuinely have yet to see where Jesus has said anything like that in the Bible.

The truth is never out of season

Yes,amen!

Ps is not preaching the truth, he is preaching his truth, not God's truth. No where in the Bible does it say - two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning. Homosexuality is not a sin, love is love, and God is love

@@craigd9896 Exactly!

YEAH! Tell him to preach shit!

The truth hurts them

@@bil.johnson_ Truth may hurt, but if you are talking about homosexuality its not a sin, and therefore, not hurtful in the least. Be who God created you to be, not what someone whats you to be.

Same

What would you even do? You'll love who you love when you love them, there's not much else you can do.

Just go. You will 100% regret not going,

homophobia is a sin .....even more clear an answer

meinerHeld I agree, but Piper is not speaking the truth.

***** Did the God of all, the Father of Jesus the Christ tell you that?

meinerHeld The original text of the Bible tells me, the Bible is silent on homosexuality, and does not mention - 2 of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning. Actually God is all about love, so how can two in a loving and committed relationship be sinning or against God - can't be. Piper is a bigot.

***** I want to give you advice directly from the Bible. This is meant in love and completely truly. "Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." I Corinthians 6:9-10 Be blessed, friend.

meinerHeld What you are sending is not the original text of the Bible therefore cannot be the True Word of God can it? The Greek word malakoi, which is the plural of malakos, and the Greek word arsenokoites are both used in 1 Cor 6:9. Here is how the KJV translates I Cor 6:9. "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate (malakoi), norabusers of themselves with mankind, (arsenokoites)" -1 Corinthians 6:9, KJV Malakoi In 44 Translations The Apostle Paul - AD 55 - Greek - malakoi Wycliffe - 1380 - neische Wycliffe - 1388 - letchouris ayen kinde Tyndale - 1526 - weaklinges Martin Luther - 1534 - weichlinge Coverdale - 1535 - weaklinges Matthews - 1537 - weaklinges Great Bible - 1539 - weaklynges Swedish Version - 1541 - weaklingar Geneva Bible - 1560 - wantons Bishops Bible - 1568 - weaklinges Valera Spanish - 1602 - effeminados Rheims-Douay - 1609 - effeminat King James Version - 1611 - effeminate Portuguese - 1690 - efeminados Daniel Mace New Testament - 1729 - the effeminate Darby - 1884 - those who make women of themselves Darby French - 1885 - effemines Young’s Literal - 1898 - effeminate ASV - 1901 - effeminate Weymouth - 1903 - any who are guilty of unnatural crime Louis Segund French - 1910 - effemines Moffat - 1913 - catamites (boys who have sex with men) Lamsa Translation - 1933 - men who lie down with males New American - 1941 - sodomites Revised Standard - 1952 - sexual perverts Amplified - 1958 - those who participate in homosexuality NASB - 1963 - effeminate New American Bible - 1970 - boy prostitutes New English - 1970 - guilty of homosexual perversion NIV - 1973 - male prostitutes NKJV - 1979 - homosexuals JW-NWT - 1984 - men kept for unnatural purposes New Century - 1987 - male prostitutes Green’s Interlinear - 1986 - abusers NRSV - 1989 - male prostitutes Bible In Basic English - 1994 - one who is less than a man CEV - 1995 - pervert NLT - 1996 - male prostitute Complete Jewish Bible - 1998 - active or passive homosexuality International Standard Version - 2000 - male prostitutes The Message - 2002 - those who use and abuse each other World English Bible - 2005 - male prostitutes God’s Word Translation - 2006 - homosexuals The NET Bible - 2006 - passive homosexual partners The Remarkable Semantic Shift The remarkable semantic shift in the meaning of malakoi, which by 1958, came to equate malakoi with homosexuality instead of softness, moral weakness or effeminacy, was not prompted by new linguistic evidence. Instead, cultural factors influenced modern translators to inject anti-homosexual bias into their translation. In ancient times, the malakos word group never referred exclusively to homosexuals and lesbians. The malakos stem rarely, if ever, referred to homosexual behavior. Further, I have never seen any indication that the ancients used the malakosword group to refer to lesbians. Yet, translating malakoi today as homosexuals causes the word to include lesbians, something the original text never said and translations never said for 1900 years. It should be clearly understood that most antigay Christians today interpret 1 Corinthians 6:9 as a universal prohibition of homosexuality including lesbian relationships, this in spite of the fact that most of our spiritual ancestors did not understand the text to say that. Scripture cannot mean now what it did not mean then. Translating malakoi as homosexuals imposes a twentieth or twenty first century cultural meaning on the text which malakoi did not mean in the first century. If malakoi was not a universally understood reference to homosexuals in the first century when Paul used it, then malakoi does not mean homosexual today. The Malakos Word Group The word malaka, with the general meaning soft, is used three times in the New Testament, Matthew 4:23, 9:35, 10:1. It is translated disease in the KJV and sickness in the NAS. The Greek word malaka has nothing to do with homosexuality The word malakos occurs four times, in three verses in the New Testament. In Matthew 11:8 and Luke 7:25, Jesus uses the word to refer to soft clothing. In the Bible, Jesus never used the malakos word group to mean homosexual. Paul uses malakoi (the plural of malakos) in 1 Corinthians 6:9. Some translations translate malakoi as "male prostitutes." (NIV, New Century, NRSV, NLT, ISV, WEB). However, that malakoi means male prostitutes in Paul's usage is highly unlikely since Paul has already mentioned pornoi, meaning male prostitutes, in this vice list. Because Paul's reasoning is tight and his writing style spare, it is unlikely Paul would repeat himself by using malakoi with the meaning of male prostitutes. English translations did not translate malakoi to mean homosexual until the Amplified Bible in 1958. The word malakoi in New Testament times, was sometimes an epithet for being effeminate, not homosexual. The ancients did not equate effeminate with homosexuality. Some of the mightiest warriors in ancient times were homosexuals yet they were not called malakoi. Our ancestors used the malakos word group in a way similar to a high school baseball coach who chides a lazy jock by saying, “You throw like a girl” or a drill instructor barking at his male, boot camp recruits, “Okay ladies, drop and give me 50” [push ups]. The coach isn't calling his players homosexuals and the drill instructor isn't calling his recruits homosexuals. The truth is, the word malakoi, in antiquity, was rarely, if ever, used to indicate homosexuals. How Was Malakoi Used In Ancient Times? Pericles, 495-429 BC, in his funeral oration, lauded the Greeks because they cultivated knowledge without malakia,meaning softness or effeminacy. Here malakia referred to intellect, not homosexuality. -Thucydides, The History of the Peloponnesian War, 431 BC, Book Two, Chapter VI. Plato, 427-347 BC, in The Republic, has Socrates opine that too much music effeminates a warrior, causing him to be malakoteroi, soft, feeble, sensitive. Plato expressed an ancient Greek concept, that too much music made a man soft, not homosexual. -Plato, The Republic, 360 BC, Book III. Aristotle, 384-322 BC, in Nicomachean Ethics, used malakos to describe lack of restraint and excessive enjoyment of bodily pleasures. Aristotle wrote: He “who pursues the excesses of things pleasant, and shuns those of things painful, of hunger and thirst and heat and cold and all the objects of touch and taste... that men are called 'soft' [malakos] with regard to these pleasures... Now of appetites and pleasures... with reference to all objects whether of this or of the intermediate kind men are not blamed for being affected by them, for desiring and loving them, but for doing so in a certain way, i.e. for going to excess.” -Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics, 7.4.4. Dionysius of Halicarnassus, 60-7 BC, in Roman Antiquities, explains how Aristodemus Malacus, 504 BC, tyrant of Cumae [situated northwest of Naples, the first Greek colony on the Italian mainland], made the male children of Cumae effeminate (meaning soft or womanly, not homosexual), so they would not rise up against him. In ancient Greek society, the education of young men involved separation from effeminizing, womanly influence. Young men were educated by older male friends of the family, who taught sports, ethics, fighting and philosophy in the gymnasium. Aristodemus suppressed the all-male gymnasiums and limited male influence by giving male children into the care of female governesses. “3 These children, accordingly, forsaking the houses of their fathers, were brought up in the country like slaves, serving the murderers of their fathers. And to the end that no noble or manly spirit might spring up in any of the rest of the citizens,he resolved to make effeminate by means of their upbringingall the youths who were being reared in the city, and with that view he suppressed the gymnasiums and the practice of arms and changed the manner of life previously followed by the children. 4 For he ordered the boys to wear their hair long like the girls, adorn it with flowers, to keep it curled and to bind up the tresses with hair-nets, to wear embroidered robes that reached down to their feet, and, over these, thin and soft mantles, and to pass their lives in the shade. And when they went to the schools kept by dancing-masters, flute-players and others who, like these, pay court to the Muses, their governesses attended them, taking along parasols and fans; and these women bathed them, carrying into the baths combs, alabaster pots filled with perfumes, and looking-glasses. 5 By such training he continued to enervate the youth till they had completed their twentieth year, and from that time permitted them to be considered as men.” -Dionysius, Roman Antiquities, Book VII.9.3, p. 172. Josephus, AD 37-100, used malakosto describe men who appeared soft or weak through lack of courage in battle or who were reluctant to commit suicide in defeat or who enjoyed too much luxury. This usage does not indicate homosexuality. -Wars of The Jews,7.338; Antiquities of The Jews, 5.246; 10.194. Epictetus, AD 55-135, used malakos to refer to soft-headed persons, whom he regarded as unable to absorb true philosophy. This usage does not indicate homosexuality. -Epictetus, Discourse 3:9. Dio Chrysostom, AD 40-120, used malakosto refer to those made soft by too much learning. This usage does not indicate homosexuality. -Dio Chrysostom 49:25. John The Faster, around AD 575. For centuries, malakia was said to mean masturbation. Use of malakia, with the meaning of masturbation, is attributed to John the Faster around AD 575. The Catholic Church has long interpreted malakia to mean masturbation. -John The Faster, Penitential. Does not indicate homosexuality. Our honest factual conclusion about malakoi The citations on this page indicate that the malakos word group was not used by our ancestors as a general reference to gay men and lesbians. When anti-gay conservative Calvinists like Phil Johnson support the gay Christian view, that the cultural, historical, religious context of 1 Corinthians 6 was temple prostitution, that is an important admission. It is historically inaccurate and factually incorrect to translate the malakos word group to mean homosexual. The evidence indicates that 1 Corinthians 6 is dealing with temple prostitution - even our most ardent foes agree with us about that. Christian honesty requires non-gay Christians to come clean on this issue. Non-gay Christians must stop wresting 1 Corinthians 6:9 from its context to assault gay and lesbian Christians. God Love you as God loves me Bye

but we should support love

pastor brian what do you mean by love?

@@williamkilgore6899 try 1 cor 13;4-7!

pastor brian if you’re saying we should support gay marriage I would ask where? It says it finds no joy in unrighteousness but rejoices in truth. And chapter 6 speaks of this

@@williamkilgore6899 should we support people who are left handed? If so Id ask where? Don't laugh as religious folk also condemned the left handed too.....so we should condemn homophobia yes.

Exactly!!

Precisely. Gods way over anything!

I'd like to hear a response to this

To make it even more general, would Piper say that a Christian should not attend the wedding of a non-believer? How is their union (or perhaps he would say "union") as unrepentant sinners, any different than a gay couple marrying? Equally, would he claim that sitting down to dinner at a gay couple's home is sinful because it "blesses" their sin? I think his approach to this question leaves a gaping hole regarding how Christians love sinners even in the midst of their sin. Which is, of course, exactly what Christ did for us.

@Ann As a devout christian, I see no problem with attending a marriage where the couple sinned before their union they will have together with themselves and with the Lord. Sinning or making a mistake does not make their marriage any less valid or beautiful or real in God's eyes. But when talking about a gay "marriage" the whole thing is an absolute fraud and a rebellion against God's holy created order. God defines marriage because he created it, we have absolutely no right to change it or practice it in any other way then he decreed.

Morlovitch that is exactly how I see it too, but I am open to being corrected.

I agree with you @swtor. Paraphrase the bi le if you are burning you should get married. That means to correct all wrong. So if you are in fornication you get married. Marriage is still to create union, if they marry then it is a repentance because they will have sex the way it was meant.

you have an issue with love?

pastor brian We have an issue with going against God!

@@Pbs-xs4xk then repent of ur homophobic lifestyle, as its against Gods word. SIMPLE.

Absolutely yes. Without hesitation. Think about the change you have among all those people at the wedding sharing the truth about a transformed divine life. Epic! www.anewcreationinchrist.nl/english

@@ToninoterRessort well said, christians should support love.

In the original text of the Bible homosexuality is not a sin. Piper is ignorance, and flat out wrong. Don't take my word, and sure don't take Piper's word - check it out for yourself in the

Thanks, Craig. As of today, I'm convinced the passages referring to homosexuality (especially I Cor. 6:9) are teaching us that the act of homosexual intercourse is a grave sin. It makes sense with what I see in the natural world and it aligns with God's plan for marriage way back with Adam and Eve. But I have a lot to learn and am continually open to new and different views. You are right to remind me not to simply take Piper's word for it. We all need to study hard and ask God for help in discerning what the truth is.

I wonder how much the bible has changed to suit the needs of others. the original script is probably long gone in mistranslation.

Scarlett Clay You can hold your opinions as wrong and ignorant as they maybe. God gave you free will. One cannot change God and Biblical Fact - homosexuality is not a sin in the original text. Oh hell make it easy just choose the Word of God, the Holy Bible use this one: World English Bible of 2005 when it says Male Prostitutes. Oh maybe the New Century of 1987 where is says Male Prostitutes. Then there is the New American Bible of 1970 where is says boy prostitutes. Choose any of those, they all say they are the 'Holy Bible' 'The Word of God', and its all good if one is a homosexual - as long as one is not a prostitute. There ya go - even in todays Bible homosexuality is not a sin - unless ones is a prostitute. In all cases female homosexuals are given a pass by God. There you go, fact check it - homosexuality not a sin in the above Bibles and in the original text - although the words differ. Done

amen sister

Yep Piper the bigot lies really well.

gay marriages do exist

Amen. he means they do not exist because it is not considered a marriage, but a funeral. Very well said. It it a shame that in todays "Christianity" this is still a question asked.

atheistsrnumber1 Interesting I am married - Iowa - married in a Christian Church before God. A trio of Iowa-based religious scholars penned an op-ed, reminding readers that despite popular opinion, the Bible does not simply define marriage as between one man and one woman. The argument against same-sex marriage is wholly unsustainable debate about marriage equality often centers, however discretely, on an appeal to the Bible. Unfortunately, such appeals often reflect a lack of biblical literacy on the part of those who use that complex collection of texts as an authority to enact modern social policy. The Bible's definition of marriage can be confusing and contradictory. A primary example of this is the religious book's stance on polygamy, a practice that was embraced by prominent biblical figures Abraham and David. Various Bible passages mention not only traditional monogamy, but also self-induced castration and celibacy, as well as the practice of wedding rape victims to their rapists. There are some people he may never be able to convince. Many politicians have made a career out of using the Bible to justify opposition to hot-button topics like same sex marriage. Those that use the Bible aren't necessarily interested in the truth or the complexity of the Bible. They are looking for one ancient sound bite to convince people what they already believe. Anyone who argues that "the Bible speaks plainly on one issue, especially something as complicated as marriage ... haven't take the time to read all of it.

kate shk A trio of Iowa-based religious scholars penned an op-ed, reminding readers that despite popular opinion, the Bible does not simply define marriage as between one man and one woman. The argument against same-sex marriage is wholly unsustainable debate about marriage equality often centers, however discretely, on an appeal to the Bible. Unfortunately, such appeals often reflect a lack of biblical literacy on the part of those who use that complex collection of texts as an authority to enact modern social policy. The Bible's definition of marriage can be confusing and contradictory. A primary example of this is the religious book's stance on polygamy, a practice that was embraced by prominent biblical figures Abraham and David. Various Bible passages mention not only traditional monogamy, but also self-induced castration and celibacy, as well as the practice of wedding rape victims to their rapists. There are some people he may never be able to convince. Many politicians have made a career out of using the Bible to justify opposition to hot-button topics like same sex marriage. Those that use the Bible aren't necessarily interested in the truth or the complexity of the Bible. They are looking for one ancient sound bite to convince people what they already believe. Anyone who argues that "the Bible speaks plainly on one issue, especially something as complicated as marriage ... haven't take the time to read all of it.

Jesus responds differently ...if you recall ..he went to the house of the tax collector ...the sinful ...n ate n dined with them ....which the Pharisee s of the time spoke the same things yo...I wee....

Which Jesus you talking about?

Please may I share my testimony with you. I always knew that I was gay, and from a very young age I prayed to God asking Him to take these tendencies away. Many years later on one particularly bad night, I believed I was going to die. In the depth of my despair, I asked Lord Jesus for forgiveness and to my surprise He answered me. My spirit has burst into such powerful flames of love and mercy that it has seemed as if I was totally dissolved in Him. By this stage I was already in a loving relationship with my partner, and when I asked Jesus if I should leave my partner. Jesus told me to regard him as my husband.

@@jean-pauldebeer8151 Jesus, who rejects the unrepentant, does not accept your union. Your position is not supported in the Bible, regardless of your preferences.

Thats actually so true, unique way to think about it.

@Mason Moore Hes saying if followers of Christ really truly hated the LGBT community we would not warn them of the coming danger and salvation is only through Christ.

@Mason Moore Can you elaborate?

for homophobia?

pastor brian you’re problem is with the Bible and God, not John Piper, who is merely a believer in the word of God

@@jtgrace10 NOOOO YOU'RE problem is with the Bible and God, PERIOD

@@pastorbri and homosexuality they don't like that

@@asterkuriko585 if its not heterosexual, they hate it

Yup

Amen!

@@asterkuriko585 well said.

@@asterkuriko585 disagreeing with a lifestyle isn't being rude. Abusing people for their lifestyle is.

@@vchow6749 no you're right it's not rude, it's wrong. which is my point. and yes harming and killing people for their lifestyle is also wrong so stop disagreeing and try to do something about it.