So choker isn't prio to casters but accuria is prio to tanks. Great guild you got there mate.
@MaynardKeenanX2 жыл бұрын
Gearing tanks in most guiIds is a smart thing to do but you dont reaIIy think of that you just want your fucking own rogue / hunter gear right? Jesus fucking christ some peopIe are braindead
@drachenrecke50902 жыл бұрын
Should both go to hunters anyways. What would a hunter do with the choker? Pet heal equipment.
@manafront Жыл бұрын
FYI in you are supposed to gear your tanks and healers first this is why back in the day a tank leaving messed up progress
@sofaking9404 Жыл бұрын
@@manafront I mean both tier 1 and tier 2 warrior are tanking sets. Ofcourse you should give those to your guilds tanks lol
@manafront Жыл бұрын
@@sofaking9404 we talking period not just tier loot and this was done even after 60 cap
@Orotigentz4 жыл бұрын
trash guild. "this is not loot council" proceeds to have tank prio lmao
@Star-gr4fk4 жыл бұрын
>dkp system >discussing loot pick one
@IvoOtt4 жыл бұрын
What I find more impressing then the drama, is that you did a full MC run with all your quests enabled on the screen.
@TacoMaster073 жыл бұрын
LOL
@BovineIntervention6 ай бұрын
I always do
@fraeyaaa4 жыл бұрын
Yeah my raid doesn't let healers roll on it because they can just get Animated Chain.
@Christisking17764 жыл бұрын
Lock def got screwed.
@Motivic1673 жыл бұрын
choker of the firelord to a healer (unless its a holy/disc priest who plans to change to shadow at some point) is absolutely hilarious
@Simon-pg1bm Жыл бұрын
It's more mana than animated neck from Startholme. Mana is pretty effin important in Classic unlike that easy as shit retail game.
@horstwurst3131 Жыл бұрын
@@Simon-pg1bm Saying you haven't played serious retail in ages without outright saying it. :D
@nickt933111 ай бұрын
@@Simon-pg1bm Giving this item to anyone but a Mage is actually mentally retarded
@brandonkruse641211 ай бұрын
@@horstwurst3131You don’t go OOM in retail 😂
@Despond11 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a joke, they removed so many ARPG elements. Threat not an issue, and you might as well just remove mana bars because it's just there to look pretty. @@brandonkruse6412
@kalif3214 жыл бұрын
Warlock got screwed by these guys.
@Veritassify4 жыл бұрын
lol Buffoons, the winner here is the warlock.
@SublethalCat3 жыл бұрын
"It's got intellect on it." "Mana pool is fucking important for healers." Yeah, because your mana pool is totally strained during those 60 second boss fights in Molten Core...
@SublethalCat3 жыл бұрын
I also just looked up the logs from this raids and I wasn't wrong. The fights are literally 1 minute long. classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XkT8zfjHyCAtcW13
@Notpoop9062 жыл бұрын
DKP is always like this. The item never goes to the person with the most DKP. There's always roadblocks like "max bid" and "class prio" put in place.
@radkex70653 ай бұрын
Lmfao horrible guild call
@TH-dg2mm10 ай бұрын
Giving choker to a healer because it has 7 int is completely unhinged lmao
@DawkinsTools4 жыл бұрын
Imagine using Choker of the Enlighenment as a healer when you can get something thats x2 good from Strat UD. That's the biggest KEKW I've had in a long time.
@BlancoJustin4 жыл бұрын
Yikes, using DKP without any sort of class prio. Your healers sound super selfish. Provide an update on how many people left your guild when you gave DFT to a Hunter
@Syphonfllter4 жыл бұрын
Give that to your caster dps, the amount of Intel really isn't that big.. plus you get early healing power to bracers from the Argent Dawn.. casters gotta wait for that, and animated chain is much easier to get and comparable.
@Realzezro4 жыл бұрын
Salty warlock? lmao a resto druid OMEGALUL
@dkrab9506 Жыл бұрын
Cliff was right to leave such an odd guild with different rules.
@johndickenson62674 жыл бұрын
Yeah choker having intellect, therefore it’s good for healers... healers are probably feeling pretty bad upgrading their “BiS” choker neckpieces with Jindo’s neck right now while their casters are stuck with garbage blues
@devonc39483 жыл бұрын
Poor Cliff
@jeeshhseej93473 жыл бұрын
And thats why this guild didnt make it pass phase 3
@itzFenners4 жыл бұрын
The 70 mana from choker does nothing for a healer. Animated necklace is popular for good reason. Tanks got prior but not casters, casual guild which is fine. But hurts the loot distribution if people just want the epic rather than who it's best for
@malazan60042 жыл бұрын
LOL I play a healer in tbc and in classic you think I would be biased but that is clearly a caster neck....
@dragonflyBMX2 жыл бұрын
DKP is the worst system for gearing out a raid.
@ArnBry4 жыл бұрын
that guy who argued that choker was better for healer cuz int is srs so loot horny its disgusting. its 1 healing power better than a dungeon item while casters get 16 extra spellpower from it from the other neck in mc. also bis until friggen aq, while healers gets better in ZG, a friggen 20man raid. that. is. bull. xD
@PD-yd3fr10 ай бұрын
....did Snaker ever get his tank for Deadmines?
@DogoodPOG4 жыл бұрын
imagine given choker to a healer rofl make some BWL videos if you guys make it that long =D
@mwa5704 Жыл бұрын
Wow you gave that to a healer! WTF!? Even a shadow priest its shit you want to stack spirt
@notjoelgraham85624 жыл бұрын
AnImAtEd ChAiN hAs No IntEl
@integralmath3 жыл бұрын
I think the officers need a 50 dkp minus.
@jamessarrasin45004 жыл бұрын
listening to the end dialogue of this at 15:00 and later, is painful to anyone who knows how to play the game... just sad
@radkex70652 жыл бұрын
This dude arguing about mana pool is hilarious. Never invite that dude to anything lmfao
@LinkLich2 жыл бұрын
only scam guilds use dkp
@TheBFGHarrison4 жыл бұрын
After getting the world first/fastest MC clear and having a drunk officer/ missed previous 3 raids get Mageblade, I said fuck it next with this game lmao
@AndyO05202 жыл бұрын
what a terrible guild hahahahahaha
@kma7410 ай бұрын
the guy who was talking about ''loot isnt more important than our bonds and community'' seem to dont understand that the guy who quit the guild actualy valued the rules and care about the game couldve just given him the choker and its bis even in bwl but no instead y guys decided to be greedy cows and break the bond between the guy ''who was creating drama over loot'' Imagine being stupid enough to give choker to a healer when bwl is a few weeks away =D
@acheronnchase62203 жыл бұрын
Most of these guys probably didn’t clear MC in retail until Wrath
@NeiasaurusCreationsАй бұрын
Free my boi the healer. All loot should go to healers and tanks. Everyone else is easily replace cannon foughter who will step into bad and than be SHOCKED when they die... Okay my bias is over. But for real, fighting over 1 and 0's in a game you'll just eventually replace is craaaazy.
@meepsheep36553 жыл бұрын
Why do a dkp system then 😂
@sofaking9404 Жыл бұрын
Shit guild making up rules on the spot, "it has been given to casters before so now out of the blue we are only giving it to healers" total bs lol.
@Luccen692 жыл бұрын
The real winner is the warlock who is not with the shitty guild who gives caster item to healer and tank prio on BOA HAHAHAHAHHAHA
@0121d18 ай бұрын
I guess the officers want gear in this guild
@charleslobster3592 Жыл бұрын
This happens when you play with people with a ui like this.
@Notpoop9062 жыл бұрын
lmfao DKP is such a trash system
@sparkymanjosh4 жыл бұрын
questioning if BoA goes to the main tank and then giving choker to a healer xD i gotta know if this guild cleared BWL.
@seanmitchell79014 жыл бұрын
Bet they let a healer have a spellpower ring too ;)
@horstwurst3131 Жыл бұрын
Tank prio on accuria, but choker to healer. Lol. One of the two would be fine, but both at the same time is bonkers.
@empire09 ай бұрын
"some people have done Strat multiple times and their neck hasn't dropped". Oh wow, "multiple times". I think i've run it over 20 times in Classic and it finally dropped after I got Jin'do's Evil Eye. Not a healer item, but definitely not worth quitting over, especially as a warlock, one of the classes that can get geared to the balls in a few raids.
@Danny_ll3 жыл бұрын
That guild sounds dumb, good decision to leave
@ryuranzou4 жыл бұрын
I play warrior so I don't know the struggles of a healer or casters. Just reading the wowhead on this item I see a lot of people getting screwed over like the guy in this video. Animated chain necklace like they said you can just farm the dungeon and eventually get it and 1 heal spell power difference doesn't matter enough to warrant this.
@GeneralGhandi2 жыл бұрын
Or 7 int lol u still get the spirit with animated chain too
@MalcomMalediction Жыл бұрын
ESO may have some horrible flaws thanks to the devs but its still better than WoW cuz we dont have loot drama like this at all. Each player gets their own loot...no rolling the dice for it or whatever.
@sachiel19954 жыл бұрын
And Im stuck with Star of mystaria. Healer have other way better necks in the game like this neck is litteral BiS for warlocks.
@kevinpedersen52903 жыл бұрын
imagine using dkp lol you guys are roleplaying 2006 or something?
@COREcasual9 ай бұрын
This is why I will never raid. Too many people fighting over too little loot. M+ is so much less stress lol. (I know it's classic, but I'll also never play classic...I don't have time for that)
@jeeshhseej93474 жыл бұрын
Would of said cant hunters bid on bindings then? Or druids on hand of rag? ITS DKP!!!
@julesmartin69724 жыл бұрын
/leave lookingforgroup
@Despond Жыл бұрын
Private loot was the best system and now they are removing that. Loot councils, raid wide loot, DKP are all extremely flawed systems when the pool of human common sense is low.
@SUPERMAN23054 жыл бұрын
Always add prio to your DKP/EPGP.
@user-tm5io3xo5n2 жыл бұрын
wtf sneakyshark this is how i find you?
@fredflintstone67292 жыл бұрын
haha, had leather wrists for my rogue taken in ICC multiple times by warriors, just for the armor pen.. At least the choker was a legit healing option!
@pirategoku6238 Жыл бұрын
What’s your Ui for the Health bar I must know
@MultiCueneyt2 жыл бұрын
how did u guys find 40 ppl rdy to raid with u if u got such a disgusting dkp system wtf
@Abalamski4 жыл бұрын
if im not mistaken, you have choker of enlightment? you def didn't need that necklace. i'd rather someone get it.9
@DarokTheMaul Жыл бұрын
All these PUGS crying over how a guild runs their raids and the standards they use for DKP.... If the guy didnt like the guilds rules im glad he left and possibly found a guild that better suits his needs.
@thebigzdog08 Жыл бұрын
Both sides had very good and fair points do i blame the lock from leaving? No, not really if your using a dkp system then wtf are you using loot council to work out loot??? Makes no sense its bad enough that no system is perfect but wtf are you using two systems at once? You either DKP or LOOT COUNCIL not both thats just making shit worse and gonna 100% cause loot drama as you see in this vid. My opinion though i feel like loot council is the best loot system as long as its not been abused by the officer team. Also it did seem like there was some dkp manipulation but i could be wrong oh well glad im not in that group haha.
@AS-sw3tk3 жыл бұрын
classic.warcraftlogs.com/guild/us/arugal/supernova This guild's logs LOL nuf said
@Cobalt_0273 жыл бұрын
Lol who gives that to a tank? Absolute mongs
@cjwars2828 Жыл бұрын
warlock crying about gear lol whats new my main but only time i try if its other locks but all the others yep last every update lol
@chromeshellking4 жыл бұрын
/smiles in mage. I haz it.
@stevegarcia31743 жыл бұрын
Gear should go to the specific class not to a class that can’t use it especially if your a certain class that can use it coming to raids when you have drama to favorites it’s time to find another guild that’s fair
@fnuttskallen3 жыл бұрын
This is us server right? How come you all have shitty internet? 800 ms wtf!
@joeycrow4 жыл бұрын
Dkp does not care about your feelings. My points, my gear period.
@yeee3214 жыл бұрын
dkp blowssssss
@foulmouthgamer42044 жыл бұрын
To much salt is bad for you. This is hilarious. SuperNova i want in.
@Fantadizzy4 жыл бұрын
+7 int is a good reason to get it as healer :D
@garywilson15474 жыл бұрын
That's only 105 mana ):
@Gobblesthepatient4 жыл бұрын
No, it’s not
@itsLeoAngelo4 жыл бұрын
Clif (the Warlock) should probably go see a doctor....that amount of salt can be deadly.