So choker isn't prio to casters but accuria is prio to tanks. Great guild you got there mate.

trash guild. "this is not loot council" proceeds to have tank prio lmao

>dkp system >discussing loot pick one

What I find more impressing then the drama, is that you did a full MC run with all your quests enabled on the screen.

Yeah my raid doesn't let healers roll on it because they can just get Animated Chain.

Lock def got screwed.

choker of the firelord to a healer (unless its a holy/disc priest who plans to change to shadow at some point) is absolutely hilarious

Warlock got screwed by these guys.

lol Buffoons, the winner here is the warlock.

"It's got intellect on it." "Mana pool is fucking important for healers." Yeah, because your mana pool is totally strained during those 60 second boss fights in Molten Core...

DKP is always like this. The item never goes to the person with the most DKP. There's always roadblocks like "max bid" and "class prio" put in place.

Lmfao horrible guild call

Giving choker to a healer because it has 7 int is completely unhinged lmao

Imagine using Choker of the Enlighenment as a healer when you can get something thats x2 good from Strat UD. That's the biggest KEKW I've had in a long time.

Yikes, using DKP without any sort of class prio. Your healers sound super selfish. Provide an update on how many people left your guild when you gave DFT to a Hunter

Give that to your caster dps, the amount of Intel really isn't that big.. plus you get early healing power to bracers from the Argent Dawn.. casters gotta wait for that, and animated chain is much easier to get and comparable.

Salty warlock? lmao a resto druid OMEGALUL

Cliff was right to leave such an odd guild with different rules.

Yeah choker having intellect, therefore it’s good for healers... healers are probably feeling pretty bad upgrading their “BiS” choker neckpieces with Jindo’s neck right now while their casters are stuck with garbage blues

Poor Cliff

And thats why this guild didnt make it pass phase 3

The 70 mana from choker does nothing for a healer. Animated necklace is popular for good reason. Tanks got prior but not casters, casual guild which is fine. But hurts the loot distribution if people just want the epic rather than who it's best for

LOL I play a healer in tbc and in classic you think I would be biased but that is clearly a caster neck....

DKP is the worst system for gearing out a raid.

that guy who argued that choker was better for healer cuz int is srs so loot horny its disgusting. its 1 healing power better than a dungeon item while casters get 16 extra spellpower from it from the other neck in mc. also bis until friggen aq, while healers gets better in ZG, a friggen 20man raid. that. is. bull. xD

....did Snaker ever get his tank for Deadmines?

imagine given choker to a healer rofl make some BWL videos if you guys make it that long =D

Wow you gave that to a healer! WTF!? Even a shadow priest its shit you want to stack spirt

AnImAtEd ChAiN hAs No IntEl

I think the officers need a 50 dkp minus.

listening to the end dialogue of this at 15:00 and later, is painful to anyone who knows how to play the game... just sad

This dude arguing about mana pool is hilarious. Never invite that dude to anything lmfao

only scam guilds use dkp

After getting the world first/fastest MC clear and having a drunk officer/ missed previous 3 raids get Mageblade, I said fuck it next with this game lmao

what a terrible guild hahahahahaha

the guy who was talking about ''loot isnt more important than our bonds and community'' seem to dont understand that the guy who quit the guild actualy valued the rules and care about the game couldve just given him the choker and its bis even in bwl but no instead y guys decided to be greedy cows and break the bond between the guy ''who was creating drama over loot'' Imagine being stupid enough to give choker to a healer when bwl is a few weeks away =D

Most of these guys probably didn’t clear MC in retail until Wrath

Free my boi the healer. All loot should go to healers and tanks. Everyone else is easily replace cannon foughter who will step into bad and than be SHOCKED when they die... Okay my bias is over. But for real, fighting over 1 and 0's in a game you'll just eventually replace is craaaazy.

Why do a dkp system then 😂

Shit guild making up rules on the spot, "it has been given to casters before so now out of the blue we are only giving it to healers" total bs lol.

The real winner is the warlock who is not with the shitty guild who gives caster item to healer and tank prio on BOA HAHAHAHAHHAHA

I guess the officers want gear in this guild

This happens when you play with people with a ui like this.

lmfao DKP is such a trash system

questioning if BoA goes to the main tank and then giving choker to a healer xD i gotta know if this guild cleared BWL.

Bet they let a healer have a spellpower ring too ;)

Tank prio on accuria, but choker to healer. Lol. One of the two would be fine, but both at the same time is bonkers.

"some people have done Strat multiple times and their neck hasn't dropped". Oh wow, "multiple times". I think i've run it over 20 times in Classic and it finally dropped after I got Jin'do's Evil Eye. Not a healer item, but definitely not worth quitting over, especially as a warlock, one of the classes that can get geared to the balls in a few raids.

That guild sounds dumb, good decision to leave

I play warrior so I don't know the struggles of a healer or casters. Just reading the wowhead on this item I see a lot of people getting screwed over like the guy in this video. Animated chain necklace like they said you can just farm the dungeon and eventually get it and 1 heal spell power difference doesn't matter enough to warrant this.

ESO may have some horrible flaws thanks to the devs but its still better than WoW cuz we dont have loot drama like this at all. Each player gets their own loot...no rolling the dice for it or whatever.

And Im stuck with Star of mystaria. Healer have other way better necks in the game like this neck is litteral BiS for warlocks.

imagine using dkp lol you guys are roleplaying 2006 or something?

This is why I will never raid. Too many people fighting over too little loot. M+ is so much less stress lol. (I know it's classic, but I'll also never play classic...I don't have time for that)

Would of said cant hunters bid on bindings then? Or druids on hand of rag? ITS DKP!!!

/leave lookingforgroup

Private loot was the best system and now they are removing that. Loot councils, raid wide loot, DKP are all extremely flawed systems when the pool of human common sense is low.

Always add prio to your DKP/EPGP.

wtf sneakyshark this is how i find you?

haha, had leather wrists for my rogue taken in ICC multiple times by warriors, just for the armor pen.. At least the choker was a legit healing option!

What’s your Ui for the Health bar I must know

how did u guys find 40 ppl rdy to raid with u if u got such a disgusting dkp system wtf

if im not mistaken, you have choker of enlightment? you def didn't need that necklace. i'd rather someone get it.9

All these PUGS crying over how a guild runs their raids and the standards they use for DKP.... If the guy didnt like the guilds rules im glad he left and possibly found a guild that better suits his needs.

Both sides had very good and fair points do i blame the lock from leaving? No, not really if your using a dkp system then wtf are you using loot council to work out loot??? Makes no sense its bad enough that no system is perfect but wtf are you using two systems at once? You either DKP or LOOT COUNCIL not both thats just making shit worse and gonna 100% cause loot drama as you see in this vid. My opinion though i feel like loot council is the best loot system as long as its not been abused by the officer team. Also it did seem like there was some dkp manipulation but i could be wrong oh well glad im not in that group haha.

classic.warcraftlogs.com/guild/us/arugal/supernova This guild's logs LOL nuf said

Lol who gives that to a tank? Absolute mongs

warlock crying about gear lol whats new my main but only time i try if its other locks but all the others yep last every update lol

/smiles in mage. I haz it.

Gear should go to the specific class not to a class that can’t use it especially if your a certain class that can use it coming to raids when you have drama to favorites it’s time to find another guild that’s fair

This is us server right? How come you all have shitty internet? 800 ms wtf!

Dkp does not care about your feelings. My points, my gear period.

dkp blowssssss

To much salt is bad for you. This is hilarious. SuperNova i want in.

+7 int is a good reason to get it as healer :D

Clif (the Warlock) should probably go see a doctor....that amount of salt can be deadly.

Salty caster KEK.

Trash guild