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I Don't Want To Like It.... Breakdance WordPress Builder

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@sam-harrison
@sam-harrison 2 жыл бұрын
Ha I was thinking this too. For the kind of builder it's trying to be, it does it well. But that only really rubs more salt in the oxygen wound.
@ARNBNDL
@ARNBNDL 10 ай бұрын
What does that mean Sam? Oxygen is better to use? Sorry im new.
@wittywolk
@wittywolk 10 ай бұрын
@@ARNBNDL depending on what type of user you are.
@maxziebell4013
@maxziebell4013 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same… it is better than you'd expect. Only thing is the repeated way Louis handled his entry in to the market is a little concerning, but on the other hand he feels like a very particular, but authentic character. Either way, I consider him a very talented developer and the things he put into the product are really thoughtful. On the marketing front, his skill apparently could improve. I still think he could have handled the transition to a new builder and subscription model with more delicacy.
@ARNBNDL
@ARNBNDL 10 ай бұрын
What happened with Oxyegen and Breakdance Max?
@maxziebell4013
@maxziebell4013 10 ай бұрын
Too be honest, I am generally feed up with the features and new builders marketing… I come from old school traditional programming and with AI and instant solutions/plugins/tutoring on the rise I am fine sticking with that and flexing my dev skilled from time to time…
@maxziebell4013
@maxziebell4013 10 ай бұрын
… I don’t user either for new projects. I use Bricks and Kadence. Sometime Brizy for a quick brochure site. Got Cwicly and aspire using it more…
@ARNBNDL
@ARNBNDL 10 ай бұрын
Yes ok. Bricks in near to Gutenberg system?@@maxziebell4013
@johanw2267
@johanw2267 2 жыл бұрын
Good informational video showcasing all the features we Oxygen users got robbed off.
@WPTuts
@WPTuts 2 жыл бұрын
I can't argue with you there. Looking at the many requests for features that never materialised in o2, you can see that they are now being implemented into BD.
@elevateyourcreativeness
@elevateyourcreativeness Жыл бұрын
Fasten your seatbelt Paul. Here goes! 🎉 After watching several videos on Breakdance, I am giving serious consideration of adding this to my stack of tools 🛠️! Particularly, the way and flexibility of using CPT’s with ACF and various components!
@vegardbell
@vegardbell 2 жыл бұрын
I have invested too much in Elementor, for me to switch now. I have the cheap $99/year license with 1000 sites. I also have Bricks Ltd just in case. But, the good thing about Breakdance and Bricks etc, is that it will trigger a better Elementor. Competition is good. I still have faith in E. They will release a loop builder, nested elements and mega menu soon 😊 And, another thing. If I switch tech stack every year, it will cost way too much. E still does a very good job for my business.
@MRJMXHD
@MRJMXHD Жыл бұрын
Everything you predicted Elementor to release, they did. Legend!
@cmdaltctr
@cmdaltctr Жыл бұрын
Stay with E. Greater marker share and long term sustainability. So many products or plugins are built E first. Its silly to ignoremE and jump to the BD
@billgrey
@billgrey Жыл бұрын
@@cmdaltctr Yeah, I feel the same way. Just sit tight and wait for the features to come.... which they are. Who can afford to jump all over the place and be paying for three or four page builders. I'm just sitting tight.
@elongtusks
@elongtusks 4 ай бұрын
one year later and elementor has gotten WORSE !!! Elementor used to be great around Version 2 and 3... now it's a pure money grab Soulless POS.
@robertwattner
@robertwattner 2 жыл бұрын
A rocky past doesn't inspire confidence but also isn't a deal breaker. They're definitely not afraid to do what they think is best.
@cmdaltctr
@cmdaltctr Жыл бұрын
Even if it means shoving early supporters down the drain 😂
@benjisify
@benjisify 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I jumped at it from the first announcement and I have used it constantly and truly i find it really refreshing comparing it to the stale elementor
@MRJMXHD
@MRJMXHD Жыл бұрын
Bro called Elementor stale 💀💀
@benjisify
@benjisify Жыл бұрын
@@MRJMXHD well it 2023 it was stale in updates until Nov. 2023
@ARNBNDL
@ARNBNDL 10 ай бұрын
Breakdance still good in 2023 Benji?
@benjisify
@benjisify 10 ай бұрын
@@ARNBNDL honestly am still using breakdance and I am still loving it. Yes I have a lot of client website built with Elementor, and i see all the latest updates with Elementor but Maybe when elementor handle some matters of bloated code and less dependence on 3rd party plug-ins to handle small issues. But for now, breakdance is primary builder
@vovi547
@vovi547 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand what all the stress is about. Choice is good. We don't need to be fanboys , let's just use the right tool for the project in hand and that best for your business. Louis is no doubt a very accomplished developer. I wish him well.
@ipixel777
@ipixel777 2 жыл бұрын
I have played around with it and the more I do the more I find myself liking it. It’s really difficult not to like it.
@digwillhachi
@digwillhachi 2 жыл бұрын
and Elementor still no native loop builder 😅 This and Bricks are looking so good. I only use Elementor these days if i need Jet Engine suite.
@MRJMXHD
@MRJMXHD Жыл бұрын
Elementor finally has a native loop builder.
@boxoffisa
@boxoffisa 2 жыл бұрын
This is the future. Been using breakdance and it’s better than elementor. In my opinion.
@ARNBNDL
@ARNBNDL 10 ай бұрын
What is your opinion in 2023 about BD?
@wpglob-wordpresstutorials
@wpglob-wordpresstutorials 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is greater than I would even imagine. Thanks for your fair review, Paul.
@sousen.oficial
@sousen.oficial 2 жыл бұрын
Heard several positive opinions of the builder regarding the quality of the websites and the functions it has. However, I would not trust a builder who treats their clients like they did with oxygen. I am full with bricks who is very, very slow in development but I am liking designing with bricks. I have a friend who, if I buy oxygen, feels betrayed and thinks about buying BD in its "pirated" version (gpl) instead of paying the developer. It's good that I decided to pay for bricks and not oxygen if I wouldn't be the same as him haha.
@cmdaltctr
@cmdaltctr Жыл бұрын
I agree I do not support soffly product from now on
@ARNBNDL
@ARNBNDL 10 ай бұрын
What happened with Oxygen?
@martinkaspar5095
@martinkaspar5095 Жыл бұрын
Paul - honestly - this is excellent 👌👌 don't know what to say...Just simple perfect video 👍👍👍👍 : Its great 👑💓🕊!: would love to see a new vid that covers the new version 6-1 that arrives next week
@kylevandeusen
@kylevandeusen 2 жыл бұрын
Fool me once, shame on me... I haven't watched your video yet but I felt the need to comment preemptively 😅
@KariposTheOne
@KariposTheOne 2 жыл бұрын
I think Breakdance is going to become a better version of Elementor
@elongtusks
@elongtusks 4 ай бұрын
one year later and it already is ..
@AdamSLowe
@AdamSLowe 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so conflicted over this whole Breakdance/Oxygen thing. Thank you for your perspective. At the end of the day though, Soflyy has lost my trust, and it's going to be hard to get it back.
@cmdaltctr
@cmdaltctr Жыл бұрын
One bitten twice shy. Better options in the market anyway.
@ARNBNDL
@ARNBNDL 10 ай бұрын
Who is Soflyy ? What happened to Oxygen / Breakdance?
@adamu6941
@adamu6941 Жыл бұрын
the only thing that should count for us, developers, web designers, etc... is: is the code generated by this or that builder more SEO friendly, faster? Personally, selling 10ths of sites per year, the internal stories of this or that company do not matter to me. All that matters is the cleanliness of the generated code because in the end, it's the SEO result that counts for our clients. So in the end, compare to oxygen for example, what does Breakdance bring to this plan?
@tomwrn1
@tomwrn1 Жыл бұрын
I'm no expert but my research so far says that its cleaner faster code than oxygen and much faster than others like elementor.
@jamesw.kahwai8669
@jamesw.kahwai8669 4 ай бұрын
This is quite an intuitive insight and would really want to know your finding 1 year later. I'm Pro SEO oriented as well and that aspect is core. Kindly share any insights you have figured since then
@adamu6941
@adamu6941 4 ай бұрын
@@jamesw.kahwai8669 BD respect webcore vitals, as BricksBuilder too.
@andytaylor8802
@andytaylor8802 Жыл бұрын
After watching the first few seconds I had high hopes of a simple or as you keep saying "easy" way of doing things. BUT sadly it might sound easy to you or any number of experts out there but not normal humans..lol For example all I want to do to start with is follow the break dance tutorial by Louis that shows how to make the woocommerce store more modern as he puts it. Sadly I cant even find out how to establish a starting point as in his video of a simple woocommerce store front . I really had high hope for you video to enlighten me but sadly ,whilst it seems simple to you, its like rocket science to me. :( Hopefully after a period of time I can revisit your videos and understand what you are saying is simple and easy, Thanks for your time though.
@rocaivan
@rocaivan 2 жыл бұрын
Looks very inviting. How about the page bloat, if there is any? How does it compare to a Gutenebrg page speed load?
@digwillhachi
@digwillhachi 2 жыл бұрын
its from the oxygen team so next to no bloat and clean code.
@elongtusks
@elongtusks 4 ай бұрын
Its faster than Elementor. and I dont even own breakdance still.. but willbebuying it today.
@jamesw.kahwai8669
@jamesw.kahwai8669 4 ай бұрын
@@elongtusks Glad I found a recent comment. I'm as well thinking of building a project at hand with BD. Been a Gutenberg and Elementor fanboy but I fell it's the right time to diversify and have my own reference point.
@Perpetuallearner1
@Perpetuallearner1 Ай бұрын
@@jamesw.kahwai8669is elementor still slow? Do you have any worries about breakdance being so new they’re maybe not stable and won’t be around tomorrow
@jackies35
@jackies35 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha! An Elementor ad just came on before this video. So, I went ahead and purchased it.
@design126
@design126 2 жыл бұрын
Breakdance is very intriguing to me. Paul how is the page load speeds with Breakdance vs Elementor or similar builders?
@joey_williams
@joey_williams 2 жыл бұрын
In my tests is on par with Oxygen and way faster than Elementor. 100% GPSI mobile isn't hard, especially with WP Rocket.
@abdullahX001
@abdullahX001 2 жыл бұрын
Louis said some features wouldn't be in Breakdance because Breakdance is intended for a different market.... yet here we are, loads of those features appearing in Breakdance.
@vpsa111
@vpsa111 2 жыл бұрын
Comparison between Bricks and breakdance?
@coleford6197
@coleford6197 Жыл бұрын
First impression: Bricks is further along and has more fine-grain control than Breakdance. Plus, I can't find a way to import or export anything via Breakdance, while everything in Bricks can be imported or exported. I think Breakdance has potential, but I wouldn't abandon Bricks for it anytime in the foreseeable future.
@davidson7838
@davidson7838 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, You are right, Break Dance is dancing but I don't think we can own all the page builders in the market, but I am really sorry to say I really don't trust this company any more as we were waiting for Oxygen to be something like Break Dance, but after years of waiting, instead of improving Oxygen, they came up with a new page builder and they dump all of their Oxygen customers. Everyone will have their own opinion, but as an Oxygen full license owner, I am really frustrated about this. Actually all the features in BD should be implement into Oxygen as they have promised in Oxygen website, but instead they took the advantage of new features to get more profit. Everyone let's start using gutenberg editor instead of those page builders. 👎👎👎
@cmdaltctr
@cmdaltctr 11 ай бұрын
Well said, a year later, I still couldn't agree more!
@elongtusks
@elongtusks 4 ай бұрын
oxygen is literally a POS
@michellaigrand5767
@michellaigrand5767 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very good video as usual. Indeed Breakdance has a nice UI. However for me BreakDance is lost somewhere between the pagebuilder and Gutentenber as you have to lauch a special UI to use it. I don't understand why they didn't build BD features and UI directly on top of Gutenberg. Personaly, even if I have my free licence of Breakdance as a formal lifetime user of Oxygen, I don't think I will use it.
@babyyoda2219
@babyyoda2219 Жыл бұрын
What are you using now? you mention "Pagebuilder and Gutenberg" but which Pagebuilder are you talking about?
@michellaigrand5767
@michellaigrand5767 Жыл бұрын
@@babyyoda2219 I use Cwicly (more close to Gutenberg)
@flowmaintenance
@flowmaintenance 2 жыл бұрын
Elementor is in trouble
@EarlJames
@EarlJames Жыл бұрын
Hahaha...I feel the EXACT same way!
@Kh4N
@Kh4N 2 жыл бұрын
I really hate how good it already works and looks.... really, really great... and it's still in beta
@Tallbloke1976
@Tallbloke1976 2 жыл бұрын
You've pretty much nailed how I feel about it, you could almost describe using it as a guilty pleasure! Noticed you didn't use their header element in your header. That's pretty nifty as well. I also like the way it handles responsive typography and presets and classes work ok as well.
@WPTuts
@WPTuts 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I forgot to include the fluid typography options. That does look really useful. 👌🏼
@jessicazuniga461
@jessicazuniga461 21 күн бұрын
Hi! I'm working with the migration mode. The website had a mega menu, in order to save some time I imported a temple from the design library (after reading the pop-up that it could be restored from the trash). Now that I see that doing that wasn't a good idea because I lost basically all the previous work/information and just got left this new design without the content being substituted/transferred I'd really appreciate if someone could please guide me on how to restore all the templates. Headers, footers, content, etc. from the trash (I've been trying to find where or how to do it but haven't figured it out yet) Thanks!!
@ivanbarta2821
@ivanbarta2821 2 жыл бұрын
Oxygen is an excellent pagebuilder, but it fails because it didn't have a good business plan. Why should Breakdance succeed? Does his suspicious start look like a good business plan?
@polarxta2833
@polarxta2833 Жыл бұрын
The yearly cost and non LTD is a clue.
@cmdaltctr
@cmdaltctr Жыл бұрын
It had a business plan if Soffly wasnt stupid to split the market share. Should have stayed at Oxy, rewrite and introduce subs for new users. Now Oxygen market share is dwindling, and BD will take yeaaaaarrs to carve bit from Elementor which has tonnes of integrations. Its a stupid move.
@EwanGilmour
@EwanGilmour Жыл бұрын
any update on this in the past 8 months? has oxygen been developed much since this video was created?
@polarxta2833
@polarxta2833 Жыл бұрын
Yes Oxygen is being developed and getting more features, and Breakdance is being heavily enhanced, a new version due soon.
@wptonic
@wptonic 2 жыл бұрын
Its totally up to users however personally I wouldn't use it.
@rebelinc
@rebelinc 2 жыл бұрын
BD seems very well designed and already with a large amount of features already built in and rapidly pushing out new stuff. Also Louis seems very respondsive and ready to implement what is needed. The builder seems fast. I don´t really get why Oxygen users get that upset, its called progress and as far as I know Oxygen still works. I have had Oxygen for a long time and never really got into it. Most have paid 99 to 149USD for a lifetime deal and that is cheap as in very cheap if you earn a living from using it.
@michalgazdik9103
@michalgazdik9103 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously, you do not understand the whole thing so do not comment on that, please. We wanted a rewrite and subscription model (and some long-requested features like form builder -_-). They said no. Instead they released a new product and stated it is not a rewritten Oxygen 2.0. It is for "Elementor users" with functionality like guess what...form builder for example (-:
@lunatunes2
@lunatunes2 Жыл бұрын
Dan, here's a short summary of Michael's comment; "We wanted, they said no.....Waaa😭 How dare you Dan post a comment if you're not whining and complaining and angry that a company did what they wanted to do with their company and didn't do what you wanted them to do........lol
@michalgazdik9103
@michalgazdik9103 Жыл бұрын
@@lunatunes2 xD
@cmdaltctr
@cmdaltctr Жыл бұрын
@@michalgazdik9103 exactly some pricks who dont understand why we hate breakdance should keep quiet. All the fixes we wanted for Oxygen was in BD. They could have rewrite Oxygen and sell the new stuff for new users with subscription. And oxy users would support them by promoting it plus new users. Gaining larger market share altogether. Soffly is just greedy, selfish and you can see the way they launched BD it was a slap to our face. They bought BD name for 20 or 30K usd? That could be used for development of Oxygen. They use the money from Oxy to BD. Another spit to Oxygen user face is that they slashed the price for Oxygen. This is the first time I see that early adopter pay more than new adopter. Well done 😂 I choose to stay away from this type of company. Support Bricks, Cwicly, Pinegrow.
@davidrobertson6371
@davidrobertson6371 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say Lewis and the team have built and impressive builder in a crazy short period of time. I still wouldn't trust Bricks with a production site and it's been out of RC for well over a year.
@Joe-ss9cr
@Joe-ss9cr Жыл бұрын
I like both, but there's nothing to not trust on the Bricks end. Just something people say, I've found nothing missing, apart from a decent mobile header builder - which Bricks Extras solves.
@goannacs6861
@goannacs6861 Жыл бұрын
I understand that Oxygen Users feel betrayed and the marketing here isn't the nicest way. But consider one thing. Page Builders like oxygen which are on the market for long get not only bloated but also the code becomes more or less chaotic when there is added more anf more stuff und bugs are fixed by huge third party updates and so on. So from time to time the best practice would be to rewrite the whole program. Either you stop updating your software for 1-2 years and leave your customers alone and come back with a clean code or.. you simply open a new chapter and rebuild a new project and make everything better. Also: Oxygen Lifetime is a cheap deal. When everyone has his lifetime license and nobody puts more money in the pot, you have to do something. Else your company dies and so does the theme and then you have neither oxygen or breakdance. Think about Divi. How are they gonna make the cut? Everyone has lifetime. The thing gets bigger and bigger. New Devs choose different paths for Performance. Divi will die in their current state, sooner or later. So what will happen? They will create a new software without lifetime licenses. Lifetime licenses will die sooner or later. Its not rentabel. It helped to get bigger in short time, but you have to choose another path at some point.
@bougelemouge
@bougelemouge 10 ай бұрын
Is padding only available in px? That doesn't seem very current?
@meltedhousedigitalltd218
@meltedhousedigitalltd218 2 жыл бұрын
Breakdance or Elementor? Is it worth the switch?
@Truax_Drone
@Truax_Drone 2 жыл бұрын
Gutenberg :D
@SiteswithNatalie
@SiteswithNatalie 2 жыл бұрын
@@Truax_Drone Completely agreed on.
@oberaij
@oberaij 2 жыл бұрын
Elementor
@adamu6941
@adamu6941 Жыл бұрын
if you want clean code and a fast website, forget about elementor. Bricks, Gutenberg, Oxygen, Divi or yes Breakdance are the right way to go by far. But for now, with the new FSE in wordpress, maybe it's time to drop all those builders for almost simple projects. I've built several websites for over 20 years, and tested elementor pro once for my own compagny website: I lost 15 SEO spots! I went back to oxygen, and I regained position 1 and 2 or 3D.
@twistedmonkey2645
@twistedmonkey2645 2 жыл бұрын
I'll give it a try but one year free at this point just means bug hunting, regardless of the "politics" Isn't it another Elementor and Divi but better? I feel it may be market driven but that doesn't matter if the product is sound.
@TheDesignCreative
@TheDesignCreative 2 жыл бұрын
Haha 😂 I really like Breakdance tooo I can’t lie. I’m throwing Elementor away when this goes live . But I will keep my license
@WPTuts
@WPTuts 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised to hear that you're leaving Elementor behind in favour of something like Breakdance. 😳
@TheDesignCreative
@TheDesignCreative 2 жыл бұрын
@@WPTuts Elementor gets on my nerves and it's making me lose my love for WordPress. I'll be honest.
@EduardoPereira-iy7js
@EduardoPereira-iy7js Жыл бұрын
@@TheDesignCreative You are not the only one having problems with Elementor. While watching the Elementor videos everything seems so easy and smooth to use. But when it comes to reality...a lot of surprises do happen. This week, with all my experience, I lost 2 Elementor websites, which crashed. Not to mention the speed problems found on Elementor.
@Perpetuallearner1
@Perpetuallearner1 Ай бұрын
@@TheDesignCreativehi I’m new to Wordpress and researching if I should get elementor bricks breakdance 🤯💆‍♂️ can I ask what frustrates you about elementor? Also what are you using now? Do you think breakdance is trustworthy enough to be here tomorrow? I don’t want to invest time and money into something that isn’t stable like elementor is. Bricks seems good team and product but I’m not that techy.
@pottiBoo
@pottiBoo Жыл бұрын
On what Framework is breakdance based? Bricks on Vue which is good, Oxygen on Angular which people dont like. Can't find informations to Breakdance?
@1YAKUZI
@1YAKUZI Жыл бұрын
vue
@polarxta2833
@polarxta2833 Жыл бұрын
Oxygen was AngularJS which had issues. Angular is fine.
@ysintos
@ysintos 2 жыл бұрын
There a lot of things done great from people that I don't like because they screwed me in the past... I NEVER do the same mistake twice...
@cmdaltctr
@cmdaltctr Жыл бұрын
100%
@shepdesign
@shepdesign Жыл бұрын
How did Lewis screw you lol
@clarkabella177
@clarkabella177 Жыл бұрын
Any update video about breakdance?
@Lee-ee
@Lee-ee 2 жыл бұрын
Breakdance Builder is like a fun version of Oxygen. It has the potential to kill Elementor and any other page builder, especially because Breakdance though it is advised not to use any themes along with it, it still allows you to use themes - which isn't in the case of Oxygen which is what turned away many new WP users from using Oxygen. And yes, Elementor had and still has a free version while Oxygen and Breakdance don't. The reason why people used themes along with Elementor is that the free version doesn't build a Header and Footer. I think it's about time the Oxygen team's skills are rewarded moneywise especially because a lifetime subscription though it is a great deal for users, doesn't really help with future development of the product, which directly impacts users and results in slow or fast death of the product. Bricks is a great product with basic optimizations already implemented, but if you know proper optimization, after implementing all the available optimizations outside of the Oxygen Builder, Oxygen is still the king. Though I signed up for Breakdance and also downloaded a copy of it, I didn't test it until yesterday! You should know the reason. 😀I realized it's a new love child of Oxygen and Bricks. Anyways, I am a bit caughtup with the tendency of calling Breakdance, as Brick; and Bricks as Breakdance like most of the others. It reminds me of a famous site which had their competition using .net TLD while they used .com TLD and resulting in return-visitors instead of visiting .net visiting .com --- All-in-all, let's blame the Branding as the true and the only problem with Breakdance. The fault is in the Stars?! 🤣
@crisvis8905
@crisvis8905 Жыл бұрын
Oxygen is going to annual subscription sometime this year, for new buyers. All lifetime licenses will continue to be honored.
@Jeanpierre.michael
@Jeanpierre.michael 2 жыл бұрын
Brizy on steroids… so pissed off … that should have been oxygen 5 from the beginning.
@cmdaltctr
@cmdaltctr Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@nvammers9682
@nvammers9682 2 жыл бұрын
Why would the makers of oxygen build a new builder?
@thijs7504
@thijs7504 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t know but I can understand a business model where you start one business to learn and earn and start a second to learn from the failures of the first and move on. I can understand that scenario, but I don’t appreciate it..🤔
@forchettinastaff2626
@forchettinastaff2626 2 жыл бұрын
Best scenario should be that when you promise to improve it, you should do it. Not creating another one! Oxygen still be fascinating, but extremely slow, why didn't he improve that aspect? Money... just more money... I won't trust him anymore, even if breakdance could become the best wordpress editor in the world.
@21upbowls
@21upbowls 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe he did this to his loyal base, he should have spent his time developing oxygen for the past 3 years being he took peoples money for an LTD. I feel like I have funded him to develop this new product and I’ve been left with a chocolate teapot!
@johanw2267
@johanw2267 2 жыл бұрын
Greed (and envy of Elementor $$$).
@aloneinfiction4101
@aloneinfiction4101 Жыл бұрын
What happened with Oxygen????
@JonSmithchannel
@JonSmithchannel Жыл бұрын
I’ve wanted to properly look into break dance for a while but their constant elementor bashing adverts on Facebook really rub me up the wrong way. Just makes me feel as a customer at some point in the future they’ll treat me the same.
@WPTuts
@WPTuts Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. I’m not a fan of that marketing approach either.
@Syphronix
@Syphronix 2 жыл бұрын
I love the efficiency of working in Breakdance, but for me the lack of conciseness with the code output makes me lean toward Bricks for my new projects. Bricks just outputs far cleaner code, but does take a little bit longer to do some things.
@nvammers9682
@nvammers9682 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know they put out far cleaner code?
@DenisMcCaul
@DenisMcCaul 2 жыл бұрын
From all I was hearing about Breakdance, bloated code was never mentioned yet. What is it about their code that is going to cause problems?
@mrtnwolf8604
@mrtnwolf8604 2 жыл бұрын
What about Framer website?
@pjoterelcamino296
@pjoterelcamino296 Жыл бұрын
still i want other, easier to use builders... bricks and breakdance is not for me at this moment... too complex and too hard to use. When i need advanced builder... i will definitely choose one of them
@junglestar
@junglestar 2 жыл бұрын
I have no doubt it’s an awesome builder, I mean they used the oxygen community suggestions and requests to build it. Ethically I can’t support this project and nor the developer…
@junglestar
@junglestar 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickpaz9113 That's what oxygen users did and got screwed in the end, so......
@AndreSjoberg
@AndreSjoberg 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickpaz9113 The developer makes BOTH Oxygen AND Breakdance - and many things in breakdance is based on feedback to oxygen, which they originally sold as the «end all, be all» until they discovered that a full site editor solution like oxygen had a tad bit smaller potential customer base, so many features suggested by the oxygen community was then baked into breakdance, leaving paying lifetime license oxygen users hanging without those features they where thinking might be included in the product they paid for and was promises would be actively developed
@fatjay9402
@fatjay9402 2 жыл бұрын
Well Elementor really need to get their shit together... all builers are getting better from the start....
@vegardbell
@vegardbell 2 жыл бұрын
Patience my friend. They know about the competition, and they will deliver. I have faith in them.
@fatjay9402
@fatjay9402 2 жыл бұрын
@@vegardbell lets better hope so
@jthomaskay
@jthomaskay 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you not want to like it?
@tonybp
@tonybp 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain the "controversy" about Breakdance?
@MoeZainal
@MoeZainal 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, me too.
@marionpaolo319
@marionpaolo319 2 жыл бұрын
You've heard of Oxygen builder, right? Well basically the owner of Oxygen created another builder which is, Breakdance, and implemented all the features the people asked for Oxygen (for a very long time). So basically, instead of having improved the builder, they created another one. Which of course made the Oxygen builder people angey and lose trust since they felt betrayed as well as doubt the future of Oxygen.
@tonybp
@tonybp 2 жыл бұрын
@@marionpaolo319 Ah OK, interesting... thanks for clearing that up 👍
@MoeZainal
@MoeZainal 2 жыл бұрын
@@marionpaolo319 Thank you, very interesting. Do you think it's because of the one time license fee?
@marionpaolo319
@marionpaolo319 2 жыл бұрын
@@MoeZainal yes, probably because Oxygen started as an LTD. BD is a subscription-based builder on the get-go. The devs promised that they would still support and update Oxygen in parallel with BD. But honestly, people are losing their trust. You can see it on the comments.
@AJ-Pixelyze
@AJ-Pixelyze Жыл бұрын
Would this work with crocoblock?
@WPTuts
@WPTuts Жыл бұрын
I’m doubtful about that right now. Some functions may work, but I don’t think there will be full support.
@MaliceVanRow
@MaliceVanRow 2 жыл бұрын
Meh. Moved from elementor to bricks with pretty good results. But ultimately, Gutenberg is the future of this platform. I've permanently moved over to the block editor via generate press and blocks and I'll never go back to a page builder. These builders I think will soon be obsolete. I also believe they will suffer the same fate elementor has with shit performance. After using gutenberg for a while and converting all my sites over, it's truly a powerful editor. Breakdance is no different. It's created by devs that have made shady business decisions and is to new on the market to really trust with live client sites. Just my thoughts
@adamu6941
@adamu6941 Жыл бұрын
I am of exactly the same opinion. The only thing about FSE for me is: is it too soon and is it enough to get to do what we can do with oxygen or bricks and so easily and quickly?
@cmdaltctr
@cmdaltctr Жыл бұрын
Builders may not be obselete. But Bd is just an unnessary builder that exist.
@ARNBNDL
@ARNBNDL 10 ай бұрын
You mean BreakDance? Its bad ? I just tested it right, and i tought he have good flow.@@cmdaltctr
@polarxta2833
@polarxta2833 10 ай бұрын
There is nothing shady about BD or its owners. BD is well built, very few bugs, updated regularly, properly tested, and fast. Each to their own but BD is a great tool and a brilliant replacement for Elementor, whiel we wait for Gutenberg to get to the point where its usable without Cwicly or others.
@michalgazdik9103
@michalgazdik9103 2 жыл бұрын
I would rather use Elementor again than Breakdance or Oxygen. Rather use investors supported products than ever money hungry rude one-man show.
@polarxta2833
@polarxta2833 Жыл бұрын
He has 5 devs. Brekdance is actually very good.
@cmdaltctr
@cmdaltctr Жыл бұрын
Exactly and stupid ceo. Instead of increasing market share of Oxy, he split it into two. Now Oxy market size is dwindling, and BD for sure wont beat E wirh tonnes of integrations and every plugins are built to be Elementor and Gutenberg first.
@julio7410
@julio7410 2 жыл бұрын
No, thanks. It's not about the product. It's about the developer. I don't want to get stabbed again. I'm happy with Bricks.
@shepdesign
@shepdesign Жыл бұрын
Lol “stabbed”. So dramatic
@thijs7504
@thijs7504 2 жыл бұрын
Honest, but unfair towards the development of oxygen
@WPTuts
@WPTuts 2 жыл бұрын
By me or the people behind Breakdance?
@thijs7504
@thijs7504 2 жыл бұрын
@@WPTuts not you! The developers behind breakdance
@rebelinc
@rebelinc 2 жыл бұрын
So a company are not allowed to built new software.? Oxygen still excists and works. As I recall BD is built on another framework?
@thijs7504
@thijs7504 2 жыл бұрын
@@rebelinc naturally they are allowed to make new software. It’s not about rules or laws. I was mentioning my opinion. I think the new software development is taking resources away from the ‘old’ software and it further development.
@imanol4468
@imanol4468 2 жыл бұрын
Can't trust this company and don't want to support it either. There are tons of options with nice developers behind the product like Kadence, Cwicly, Bricks, Generatepress and so on. Not interested
@glenhouse46
@glenhouse46 Жыл бұрын
I jumped to Kadence lifetime. Really excellent. Can recommend & I have a Bricks sub to and am watching it develop fast
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@vanjakrstonosic7315 Жыл бұрын
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