minitstop De' Nada' Homeslice!! I wish there was a better way to help people understand what it "feels like" with a good suspension....I sure love yours on Daisy Chain!

MrDuhfactor Your suspension work makes riding feel like a hot oil massage from Kate Upton. Although I've never had a hot oil massage from Kate Upton, I'd imagine that's a close comparison. That's what it "feels like" :) Only those who have tasted of the goodness know!

osimnod Thanks buddy..... believe it or not, I've pulled brand new fork legs apart on modern MX race bikes of a local racer I sponsor, and found one leg to have little to no oil in it...blows my mind dude.....

DirtHog365 Thanks my man..... Can't help but tweak stuff.....

Jeff Katzer You becha buddy.... that is an excellent bike, and will treat you well.... this is only for those who are nerds like me who can't leave well enough alone...Lol

Hermit DaVlog Lol... I'm not sure which forums there are for the WRR/WRX, but hopefully someone who knows their way around those parts will get around to it someday. I was really surprised how much more controlled the bike felt after making the gold valve and shimming changes..... I absolutely loved the bike after the suspension and motor work.

David & Elizabeth Ayeee!!! Thanks guys!! I've been missing the 80's rock myself.... I guess we better get back to the roots aye?

DRZcoffeegirl Ride Ha Ha! I love editing out all the mess ups I do...Lol

Tankerman I'm sure you would smack down on anything you put your mind to buddy.... Heaven knows, I've screwed up tons of important stuff.... Lol

Dr. Dual Sport Did it put you in a trance my man?

ColoradoDualSport Lol, that is true bro, spending more doesn't necessarily mean better.... It does however cost a fair bit of money to R&D suspension, and to end up with a quality product out of the box, the most applicable example is KTM. Their WP stuff is actually pretty good out of the box. I think companies try to balance budget, cost, and sellability etc, just like all other products we buy....maximizing profit... Oh boy....see how easily distracted I am??????

FRAG-AFE Dude.... I've messed my suspensions up a lot of times in the past to finally get a "feel for it".... It's like trying out different jetting and realizing.... "nope! that didn't work!" then going back to the drawing board and changing things up until it was golden..... I figure, it's o.k. to mess around with it...the worst thing that can happen is I learn something, aye?

MrDuhfactor totally valid point sir ☺

***** I wondered when anyone would notice, LOL.... My wife actually bought that shirt for me..... After I saw it for the first time I asked her, "You really want me to wear that around in public"? She's like, "Why not"? I'm like......O.K..... I'm so going to wear this around...... which I did, all the while having a little chuckle inside..... Now, it's relegated to wear out it's last days as a "Shop Shirt".....Lol

This portion of the video was only included to show the problem in an exagerated way, and wasnt the only place tested for rebound. Rebound is best tested on successive whoop sections, but you cant see how fast the rebound happens in whoop sections well in a video, even when you slow it down, we tried. Casing it in the first place is due to inadequate compression control.

THEDUDE! Ah man.... you're too kind.... Just like sharin' the love....

No, while hitting like that might be a harder slam, if you look at trial riding, they do that kind of thing all the time. Proper suspension should not turn that slam into a power-vaulting. Notice that he didn't bounce on the seat. He was compressed down on it and then it power-drove upward. This is almost exactly like a judo hip-throw. Hip to hip, tight, and a quick pop; it takes surprisingly little effort to sent someone sailing hind over head. The scary part is the bike goes from normal "it's fine" just sometimes slapping you in the but over woops - to a sudden power launch powerful enough to make you completely clear the bars and it happens so fast you can't do anything about it. Sure he could have gripped the bike more, but even with that it was still powerful enough to launch him and leave him with airtime - no control of the main body of the bike to try land on the seat and recover his feet/pegs, which if you think about airtime is all going to be happening as the bike is going over the next hump! So he's going to land on the seat just in sync with the rear compressing again, so he'll have a loose uncontrolled bike that may be trying to fall over to try to grip as quick as possible while it is mid-vaulting him a second time. That's not even balanced either. If you jumped high and landed hard but even/flat, both ends evenly compressed and you smashed down on the seat, the back end is going buck to try to launch you forward.

b1pig Did you see the other part of the shirt? Cracks me up, my wife gave that shirt to me.... "Big Daddy Damon's Butcher Shop.......The best meat in Town...." I guess subliminally, she had to get it...... She didn't want some other woman or man wearing it around..... Lol

I would call racetech, I think they are the same.....

@@MrDuhfactor I did and it only goes up to 2018 and mine is 2020 says it don't fit

Matt Tolman Hi Matt, Usually, People can use a lowering link for their rear shock, and slide up their fork tubes in the triple clamps to drop the bike down. minitstop 's WR has a lowering link, and forks slid up about 1+" and he rides it very well, I think he is about 5'5"? He recommended somewhere to use a lower cut out and narrower seat, which helps, and I've seen some people use smaller diameter wheels, like supermoto wheels with knobbies in order to get the bike even lower. How tall are you, and what bike do you have??

I'm 5'4" and 190lbs. Don't have a bike currently, it has been several years and I'm looking to get back into it. My kids are at the age where it can be fun family activity. I've owned Yamaha 175 in past.

E mail me at MrDuhfactor at gee mail dot com buddy....

+Bill Knighton We use the type 3 valves... the type 2's have smaller ports and are better at bottoming resistance, but more harsh. If you go to the racetech.com site, it will usually suggest the type 3 valves. good luck!

Not to my knowledge, I believe the rear shock is unchanged..

Alex Jones Dunlop D606 buddy.

Racetech

if your not going to do it yourself, you can't beat the price of sending them to Racetech themselves. if I weren't doing them for myself, I would send my stuff to the experts at RaceTech. good luck!

This bike, we used a glod valve kit, which comes with shims from racetech.com

Not to my knowledge bud..... most people just live with it unknowingly.....

Yes, placed on the rebound side of the piston, if one wants to keep the original shock piston.

@@MrDuhfactor cool because I'm having troubles finding a valve.

+Nick Dole No, I didn't just put in a gold valve, maybe you didn't watch to the end? All good points, and understood. I like the bigger ports because even though I could have added more shims to slow down the rebound on the stock piston, those small ports always cause harshness that irritates me. I love the smoothness of larger ports, and covered with appropriate shimming to control both rebound and compression as needed. It would surprise me if someone actually would slap in a gold valve and leave the stock shimming, but I suppose there might be someone who would do it. I have tried lots of shocks with shimming designed on a shock dyno, and they are very helpful, but in the end, it's the rider feel and personal preferences that make the suspension good for them. I like using dyno recommendations as a starting point if I have no other option , but in the end, always deviate from it to find the perfect feel for what works best for the rider.

Do u get a shim kit and some recommendations on which shims to use with the gold valve?

***** I'll look up the exact part numbers for you bro.... Gotta go dig them out of my file.... give me a bit, and I'll get them for you, it's finally 3 am, and the garage is scary in the dark..... Lol

Lol 3am! that is commitment to the cause. Thanks for checking into it.

***** O.K., buddy, the front Gold Valve is part number "FMGV 2040" and the rear shock is "SMGV 4603" . If you decide to order them someday, if you go through Duffs Racing, specifically ask for Tom Hooker, and they will pay for your shipping, and provide your fork and shock oils for free!

That is great thanks so much I will be looking at two bikes this week.

***** Update! I picked up a 2008 wr250r, with about 10000km that is 6000miles, it needed some tlc in the cleaning department, I already put in a K&N filter. I am making a list of up grades for the winter.

+Ruger Luger For suspension? I like to look at www.racetech.com

+MrDuhfactor No sorry, i mean for things like mirrors, gas tanks, seats, stuff like that.

+Ruger Luger I like RockyMountainATV for other stuffs.... they have a huge local warehouse which I can drive down to, but they also do well with shipping orders. ..

We're talking about rebound valving Homie.... not compression......