The Day That WWE Lost Its Mind

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The Day That WWE Lost Its Mind

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Which was worse: Retribution or Raw Underground?
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Written by: Pete Quinnell
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Presented by: Pete Quinnell, Oli Davis, Luke Owen, Sullivan Brown & Tempest
Edited by: Adam Witney & Rich Goodyer
The Day That WWE Lost Its Mind
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@WrestleTalk 2 ай бұрын

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@poovanna4284 2 ай бұрын

Raw Underground was great thanks to Shane McMahon

@pdcookstar 2 ай бұрын

I swear it got bad in the 2000's

@ReggieKSanshire 2 ай бұрын

Retribution

@shadowandroid1823 2 ай бұрын

Do a video on the current Women's division being overrated

@belak217 2 ай бұрын

"I asked my victims next" f off Pete.

@wstine79 2 ай бұрын

Shane: "The first rule of Raw Underground is....don't tell Vince that we're inside the building."

@anonamus604 2 ай бұрын

"The first rule of RAW Underground is "Don't remind Vince that this was his Idea""

@poovanna4284 2 ай бұрын

I am preety sure Vince never this because this was Shane McMahon idea

@dragansnyder2786 2 ай бұрын

@@poovanna4284in storyline it may have been Shane's idea but I don't think it would have happened if it wasn't something out of Vince's mad musings

@zionkraze9965 2 ай бұрын

Shane: "The second rule of Raw Underground is... don't let Vince IN the building."

@ajboss924 2 ай бұрын

@dragansnyder2786 You don't know that. It still could've been Shane's idea in real life. But yall just love blaming vince for everything

@AliceWallace2 2 ай бұрын

“There’s something to this,” he says. And he’s not wrong; a more gritty, cinematic, edited format with a tight crowd in a smaller arena. It’s called Lucha Underground.

@luislima3476 2 ай бұрын

It’s Josh Barnett’s Bloodsport

@JakeDeMarco 2 ай бұрын

I recall the producers non stop instructing us in the first Thunderdome live show.... "Clap. Smile. Wave. Thumbs up. Thumbs down. Big energy....!" An attempt certainly was made lol

@shaneharrisnj3484 2 ай бұрын

The fact that you and others had to boo (this person) when you like (this person) is kind of unfair. They could've let the fans only tell them to bring the energy instead of alienating our own "favorites" and "mid" guys.

@apocrypha5363 2 ай бұрын

You can understand why, at this point, everyone was fleeing to AEW like it was the last chopper out of Saigon. 😂

@josephalexander877 2 ай бұрын

I now recognize Sully as the WWE Champion. Long may he reign

@stevencowan37 2 ай бұрын

7:20 as a former bouncer, I can confirm Sully's point: bouncers are just glorified password screens for real life rooms.

@IrishJaguar 2 ай бұрын

WWE Presents Bloodsport (without ever having watched Bloodsport)

@RGF91 2 ай бұрын

Bloodsport at home

@Federer20Goat 2 ай бұрын

Not my boy van damme

@frankinglese7100 2 ай бұрын

We are so far removed from this era that revisiting stuff like this is like we broke a dimensional rift when we weren’t supposed to.

@PedroBenolielBonito 2 ай бұрын

Demi Burnett is only a few letters removed from Demi BENNETT...causing me to momentarily be like 'wait...MAMI?! That can't be right!'

@BlindJedi 2 ай бұрын

Hard same

@joeyramirez.308 2 ай бұрын

I’m really loving these video series. Right now I’m still at work, about to clock out for the night, gotta get some McDonald’s breakfast and enjoy y’all’s work. Amazing content

@welikepie9422 2 ай бұрын

Same lol

@erockeek316 2 ай бұрын

You shouldn't be on KZfaq at work.

@MediCali951 2 ай бұрын

Same bro those app deals be coming thru after a days work and don’t feel like cooking or spending much

@joeyramirez.308 2 ай бұрын

@@MediCali951 yessir them $2 breakfast sandwiches or the 20% off your purchase are goated. As much as I enjoy homemade meals there’s nights where the workload drains you

@joeyramirez.308 2 ай бұрын

@@erockeek316 😂😂

@christophergraham30 2 ай бұрын

Im going to need the follow up ep be the Smackdown where the lady's sing karaoke

@julesrules7297 2 ай бұрын

I forgot about that! Woof...bad times

@ericivory2606 2 ай бұрын

I agree, bring back smackdown review

@rudeusgreyrat5236 2 ай бұрын

Pete doing his best Tom Burgess impression for this video I see

@thetribalist6923 2 ай бұрын

The soccer/football player?

@joshuacauser 2 ай бұрын

@@thetribalist6923you mean the ex Portsmouth CB who now plays for Union St Gilliose? 😆

@thetribalist6923 2 ай бұрын

@@joshuacauser I’m honestly unfamiliar with both but tried to find out who the impression was. It was an odd choice for Pete but I didn’t dislike it either.

@rudeusgreyrat5236 2 ай бұрын

LMAO in retrospect I should have known that Tom Burgess is/was a Rugby League player in the local nations competition. Tom Burgess (who’s name I searched for this joke) is a featuring performer on the No Rolls Barred channel that is closely tied to Wrestletalk. He’s known for (among other things) his deep voice and particular cadence when speaking

@VanGTO49 2 ай бұрын

I dunno if Pete is coming up with these or writing them or just the face of it but man these are becoming quintessential viewings. Good work to anyone and all that are involved!

@melkiah 2 ай бұрын

Underground would have worked as a gimmick match for something like the brawling brutes or even the current "new blood" version of the bloodline but as a segment on its own it was so ridiculous.

@MrGared22 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I mean, I think NXT used it as just that not long ago as "NXT Underground" and as a one-off gimmick match it isn't that bad.

@Steve-zr9wg 2 ай бұрын

The entire Raw Underground was one Big Lipped Alligator Moment. Came out of nowhere, had nothing to do with the rest of the episode, and later quietly dropped and never mentioned again.

@jamesmaclennan4525 2 ай бұрын

Except they brought the concept back on NXT. Lola Vice is fighting Shayna Baszler at Battleground in an Underground match on June 9th

@ianbyrne465 2 ай бұрын

@@jamesmaclennan4525You know though. I don't hate it in that context. Framing it as a match type works better than just some vaguely defined Shane McMahon fightclub thing that happened before. At least with the Underground match in NXT, it gives some sense of stakes. It feels different, but in a good way

@jamesmaclennan4525 2 ай бұрын

@@ianbyrne465 I actually agree with you and it suits Shayna's character

@blablablaa14 2 ай бұрын

It sounds like Shane was like "Dad dad please let me have this one thing" and so they tried it. The whole Shane impact was always terrible and he's so sweaty all the time

@kidiciris 2 ай бұрын

Need more of these. Especially for shows that didn’t make too much sense.

@Redlineshadow29 2 ай бұрын

When are you bringing back, WORST MATCH EVER??? This could be the re-debut???

@DREYBPT 2 ай бұрын

Day 5 Bring back the smackdown review

@papahenry744 2 ай бұрын

Why was it ever stopped????

@thetribalist6923 2 ай бұрын

@@papahenry744it wasn’t drawing the audience they needed to justify doing it. Apparently they do the review now as part of their podcast. I think they should do the Smackdown review in the Monday episodes. That way they don’t have to pay staff overtime to work weekends, they give the people what they want, and they have several days to think about the review.

@diakodana2962 2 ай бұрын

Please keep doing this i will look for this comment everyday to like so they know how stupid they are not doing it like thier normal programming 😐😅

@papahenry744 2 ай бұрын

@@thetribalist6923 so they do their podcast stuff on their KZfaq channel now and the KZfaq content on their podcast, got it.

@DREYBPT 2 ай бұрын

@@diakodana2962 day 6 comment up on Luke's video

@leehazell7633 2 ай бұрын

Massively enjoying these Wrestletalk Originals. A place free of tribalism and competition.

@HorribleSmileProductions 2 ай бұрын

"I just think having another Figthing promotion within your fighting promotion doesn't make any sense!" AEW (ROH) : 👀

@darkstarr2540 2 ай бұрын

I believe the first time Retribution did something was during the whole hacking thing during the Otis and Mandy Rose thing. Because much later on you found out that in Retributions intro that Mustafa Ali was the guy behind all the hacking things and the messages. So technically that wasn't their first debut.

@Macabresalmon 2 ай бұрын

my favourite bit of Retribution is Luke laughing at Slapjack, who was then referred to as Slapnuts but honestly stupid names

@dragansnyder2786 2 ай бұрын

The funniest thing about it is Apollo didn't actually keep both belts all the time, I think that they retire the old belt by saying that he's going to give it to his kids

@danwojcik8306 2 ай бұрын

This feels like the precursor to Control Your Narrative.

@MrAstro720 2 ай бұрын

This just proves that we need sully on worst match ever season 2

@FriendoSammo 2 ай бұрын

I dunno whether to be scared or turned on whenever Pete says "My victims" in that saucy dark voice.

@crimson-cloud 2 ай бұрын

Can be both!

@brentsmith9134 2 ай бұрын

Just saw the thumbnail and I already agree wholeheartedly 😂😂

@ShayeAntonStewart2002 2 ай бұрын

I remember this episode as the "Throw stuff at the wall and see if it sticks" episode because of all the desperate attempts they did at this time to gain interest.

@Lobossumi 2 ай бұрын

Oli thinking "theres something here" is the same kind of madness that makes him think Math > Pipebomb isnt true.

@jaykirizz219 2 ай бұрын

17:39 hilariously ironic how Luke has the EXACT same body language and expression as Swerve here 😂

@adrienneespinoza208 2 ай бұрын

This is my new favorite Halloween tradition...gather round as we remember the horror that was

@joeyattack99 2 ай бұрын

I'm gonna agree RAW underground could've been gold BUT it should've been what Shane saw ECW as: internet exclusive, short extreme matches

@poppaduxplays424 2 ай бұрын

On its surface, RAW Underground wasn't a bad idea. Holding worked shoot fights backstage in a Fight Club type setting could have been interesting. What killed it was the fact they presented it like a Shane McMahon acid trip with zero emphasis on the actual fights.

@krisnwo420 2 ай бұрын

It's weird how we laugh at 2020 Raw Underground, yet love Josh Barnett's Bloodsport which is basically the same thing without the WWE "appeal to kids" thing. And with it having Shayna Bazler at the last show, kind of has the approval of WWE.

@sonic5993 2 ай бұрын

I vaguely remember this episode, and it was the period when I just had this show on as background noise...

@JoeyBoswell89 2 ай бұрын

Im sure theres more episodes of raw which are mental so you could probably make a series out of this

@goodisgoog 2 ай бұрын

Another amazing video idea from Pete!

@boots8562 2 ай бұрын

House of Black turns off the lights

@Rodderz1992 2 ай бұрын

The was something in this Raw Underground think Oli, it's called "NXT Underground"

@gghun04 2 ай бұрын

This video and concept was fantastic.

@JMC1396 2 ай бұрын

Also in this episode Sasha banks used her video editing skills to make a perfectly produced video package about how great she is, but Asuka somehow hacked into the video to speak Japanese menacingly! Also there was a reporter because a box fell over which they referred to as many boxes!

@Dtrain10. 2 ай бұрын

Went and rewatched your immediate review, you forgot Montez Ford being poisoned before his match

@DjBoggLEMaN 2 ай бұрын

I wish Sat and Tempest were still doing a three segments on Saturdays 😢

@jordanschoepke1864 2 ай бұрын

Please do more of these this is hilarious

@notjpeg 2 ай бұрын

@WrestleTalk - First time ever comment. If you apply the 1999 movie’s logic, Raw Underground was connected to Retribution in the same way that Fight Club was connected to Project Mayhem.

@DCLK 2 ай бұрын

I remember watching that episode live

@BritneyBrody 2 ай бұрын

Raw underground is still around. There is literally an underground match on battleground this weekend with Shayna in it.

@martinmiramontes1067 2 ай бұрын

Sheesh I feel spoiled, need like a 40+ minute video for my Saturdays

@tevintyler3842 2 ай бұрын

I’m loving this type of content! The storytelling is amazing!

@jvfiuza8312 2 ай бұрын

Bring back the Smackdown review!

@PowerPackers90 2 ай бұрын

it's no monday

@seaogdiva 2 ай бұрын

Y’all are hilarious 🤣 😂😅thanks for the video ❤

@Knighttt662 2 ай бұрын

If possible can u guys give your staff off days on Sunday and Monday. And give us SmackDown review on Saturday

@greenbayracer 2 ай бұрын

There were even more zany moments from this episode that wasn't in this video like Montez Ford getting poisoned and Samoa Joe defending Tom Phillips from Seth Rollins (I will admit that was cool mainly due to Joe)

@stevencowan37 2 ай бұрын

10:40 to be fair to the ninjas, they're running afoul of the law of conservation of ninjitsu: In any fight, there is a finite amount of ninjitsu available to each side's ninjas to channel; this is why one ninja is an unstoppable killing machine (they can channel all of their side's ninjitsu), while a gang of ninjas are faceless cannon fodder (they have to share all the ninjitsu).

@ryanmclean2000 2 ай бұрын

Can we please get more of these I’m obsessed with this style of video

@emeraldninjalink6312 2 ай бұрын

I remember I defended the ninja stuff. I really really regret than now.

@Sam_Palmer 2 ай бұрын

I want more Sullivan in these videos 🤣🤣 "Why are there sexy ladies?" A totally legitimate question but just his reaction has me belly laughing 🤣🤣

@MrKDeevil547 2 ай бұрын

Raw Underground was a lame attempt to incorporate that scene in No Holds Barred, where they go recruiting to that dive bar and Terry Funk is fighting in an "UNDERGROUND fight club".

@ChrisDeRoin 2 ай бұрын

This feels like Art Donovan plopped into KOTR '94: "Hey Pete, what are these guys fighting for? Who's the tall fella at the door? Are the sexy ladies gonna wrestle?"

@melvinkachere8782 2 ай бұрын

I do love that Pete consistently calls them "victims"

@thberger61794 2 ай бұрын

Everything and anything Sullivan says is hilarious

@rallycapandstanding 2 ай бұрын

“Why are there sexy ladies?!” 😂

@ahchiu9 2 ай бұрын

Sullivan Bo Brown immediately brings the entertainment level up tenfold

@demarcoadkins 2 ай бұрын

This was a very fun and entertaining video to watch and relive some of WWE craziest, and wildest moments thank you Wrestle Talk.

@riotd.r.8363 2 ай бұрын

Raw Underground was a work that was supposed to be like a Fight Club, not a shoot. See Brawl for All for context on how it could've been worse. Side note: this probably may have worked in the late 90's.

@BigMike_HD 2 ай бұрын

God, this entire episode of raw felt like a bad trip.

@49ers_red_and_gold2 2 ай бұрын

I forgot about underground 😂

@thomaslippiatt4132 2 ай бұрын

Because of Covid and being stuck at home I watched every raw and smackdown live. I would say it kept my sanity but then again I was watching raw and smackdown and PLE’s so maybe I wasn’t lol

@johnhoneybun2433 2 ай бұрын

Amazing. Do this again for the full timeline of Retribution!!

2 ай бұрын

the fact that two guys with nothing of interest to say or do will become GREAT aew world champions a few years later blows my mind.

@vincentvalen72 2 ай бұрын

Also I see Pete is auditioning to be the host of the next Blood on the Clocktower

@hishark7082 2 ай бұрын

WWE's Retribution= AEW's Dark Order

@pinroshan020 2 ай бұрын

Not Dark Order, DORK ORDER. Get it!?

@ChrisFromTheBlackLagoon 2 ай бұрын

That was really fun. Thank you to all involved for making it happen

@VinnieBartilucci 2 ай бұрын

I still maintain that it's hilarious that they're using the Underground match format successfully in NXT now. They just make it about the wrestling, and not the pretty ladies.

@chuges 2 ай бұрын

How were there no drops from Oli's reviews at the time, "Look at the sexy dancers 😬"

@dylanecret1703 2 ай бұрын

These 3 are so great together! I wish they were on the podcast more

@Kaslo25 2 ай бұрын

Too be fair, I think there was something to Raw Underground, only because NXT Underground has proved to be a fun periodic match stipulation.

@Jimmiejam87 Ай бұрын

wow pete, good presenting voice here!

@miho022883 2 ай бұрын

RAW Underground would be a great place for a Brawl 4 All revival 😂

@Emryss1996 2 ай бұрын

The Main Event of Wrestlemania 41: Sullivan Brown vs Cody Rhodes For the Now Vacant Undisputed WWE Championship. Book it HHH!

@gablefanproductions01 2 ай бұрын

I remember Twitter got upset about the "Sexy Ladies" (because of course they did) and then WWE Talent tried defending it? Then the "Sexy Ladies" were dropped anyway and never mentioned again after they debut....

@randomguysays 2 ай бұрын

I'll never forget this episode lol, When Underground started I thought this is like a low budget UFC meets late 90s Shotgun Saturday Night! My gawd is was interesting but so hard to watch lol.. And Shane McMahon should of had his microphone turned off.. Man this was rough!

@diabeticman2194 2 ай бұрын

Raw Underground is one of the best worst things in wrestling, still can’t believe it happened tbh Edit: Swerve being involved in Raw Underground was not something I expected when watching this video

@TheMKZero 2 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed this. It's like the next evolution of "Worst Match Ever" which should also be brought back. Hope you do more of "Wrestletalk Watches Shit Wrestling."

@johnnydropkicks 2 ай бұрын

0:17 It might be a tad too dark, but I really like the lighting in these shots. It looks awesome.

@sheliamonette539 2 ай бұрын

I love this! More videos like this please

@babarazamsucks 2 ай бұрын

Oh boy do I remember this day.

@tombardsley3081 2 ай бұрын

24:00 Retribution is approaching the generator. The generator is losing power.

@Alucard-A-La-Carte 2 ай бұрын

It's INCREDIBLE to me that no one called this "worst than WCW in 2000." This is worse than ANYTHING AEW has done. That Retribution crap was worse than AEW airing the CM Punk footage.