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Former Greenville religious leader removed from public ministry

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@NiceDynomyte
@NiceDynomyte 2 ай бұрын
Upon Friar Review was my favorite channel on KZfaq for a long time. It had a great deal of influence on my coming to Christ. Was wondering why everything just disappeared. Prayers for Ft Patrick, and more importantly prayers for the victim. Such disheartening news.
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 11 күн бұрын
Me too, I was so sad. I pray for him and the victims but it's very vague if adults or children. I'm assuming not adult or he wouldn't be watched. What does that mean anyway? A woman posted he married her daughter and baptised her grandchildren and was always so nice and giving. I guess we can compartmentalize.
@deb9806
@deb9806 11 күн бұрын
I feel for Fr Casey too, they weren't in same place but it must be so hard for him. He talked about the abuse crisis a lot lately.
@splinterbyrd
@splinterbyrd 11 күн бұрын
@@deb9806 I gather Fr Casey has taken charge of Tuttle's former parish. Given his large viewership, and that he made videos with Tuttle, I think Fr Casey should make some sort of statement for his audience, although his superiors may be stopping him.
@deb9806
@deb9806 11 күн бұрын
@@splinterbyrd I thought he worked more with college kids. I don't keep up with things like that but he is part of a parish? How would he be able to travel so much or do you mean the area .
@splinterbyrd
@splinterbyrd 11 күн бұрын
@@deb9806 I'll try and get the details, but as I recall Tuttle was looking after a parish in Texas somewhere, until he was asked to step aside, about last November 2023. Fr Casey took over. I don't think he's officially parish priest, but he's saying mass and looking after the parish. And yes I think he's carrying on in some capacity in a college somewhere. Most priests are spread pretty thin these days
@indi_has_froggy_hat
@indi_has_froggy_hat 3 ай бұрын
I honestly did not know about this until a few mins ago when I couldn't find their KZfaq channel, so I did my research and came across this. I am shocked and i have no words to say after watching this and reading the articles
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 11 күн бұрын
I kept wondering why Fr Casey and him hadn't done season 4 of The Chosen. How I loved those videos. Fr Casey must be heartbroken too. He was away a bit but now back. He wont say anything and shouldn't but it must be very hard.
@indi_has_froggy_hat
@indi_has_froggy_hat 11 күн бұрын
​@@workinprogress-ye5or yes I too would have loved to see them cover season 4 of the chosen bc the season was good and had good topics like Ramah's death but also I think that God did what He did for a reason and I think its best that way Prayers for the victim and everyone involved
@Veritas1234
@Veritas1234 3 ай бұрын
Regardless of any wrongdoing, Fr Pat did an incredible amount of good for many people while in Greenville, SC. We don't yet know the facts behind the allegations but they were serious enough to have him removed from public ministry. Prayers for him, any potential victim of sexual misconduct, and for the community.
@Deemememe
@Deemememe Ай бұрын
Regardless…potential…people like you are the reasons why do many get away with being a monster. Shouldn’t matter if he has literally physically saved someone. Wrong is wrong. He destroyed lives.
@deb9806
@deb9806 11 күн бұрын
There a video on youtube of so many praising him when they had to move 4 years ago. I will pray for all involved.
@Veritas1234
@Veritas1234 11 күн бұрын
@@deb9806 He was a great pastor to so many. He changed so many lives for the good. From my understanding his misgiving was not criminal but civil, with an adult, and may not have involved any physical circumstances. However that would still be very serious for a Catholic priest.
@deb9806
@deb9806 11 күн бұрын
@@Veritas1234 That doesn't mean you are dismissed. That sadly happens with humans and being a priest doesn't keep relationships from happening. Marriage is supposed to be between husband and wife but many times another is let in. I can see counseling, retreat, etc but dismissal?
@Veritas1234
@Veritas1234 10 күн бұрын
@@deb9806 I agree
@mrmorningstar4216
@mrmorningstar4216 3 ай бұрын
Idk how to feel about this tbh...
@baldwinthefourth4098
@baldwinthefourth4098 29 күн бұрын
This is disappointing to everyone.
@furydeath
@furydeath 7 күн бұрын
Funny how this is the ONLY thing about it
@AzrielSword100
@AzrielSword100 23 күн бұрын
Ironic. I was just thinking about upon friar review, the spotlight, and how he sounded so hurt at the church pedophilia and child rape scandals and then i see that the channel is gone. Only to find this bit of news. Very ironic
@DivineKnight_115
@DivineKnight_115 19 күн бұрын
Well sadly this explains why upon friar review was taken down most likely by Fr. Casey. Hearing them both discuss this exact topic in the church leads me to believe this incident or case may have been a misunderstanding or something from far back in the past. I’m not gonna gossip on it because it’s not gonna help not knowing any facts. I’ll pray for Fr. Patrick because it could also be just bitter people who don’t want him doing good. Either way he helped me look at the world in a more open minded and healthy way and I pray this whole situation is dealt with justly and without corruption. God have mercy on us poor sinners.
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 11 күн бұрын
I remember them talking about abuse and celibacy etc. I'm sure if criminal it has to come out or at least that is what they promised. I saw a post where a woman was accusing him but I don't know if she was the victim or helping the victim.
@TheLuckyOne-rg4vk
@TheLuckyOne-rg4vk 3 күн бұрын
Look, i liked their channel. I found their perspectives fascinating. But someone being really nice and soft-spoken in public doesn't have any relation whatsoever to what they're capable of in private. Lots of SO'ers were believed to be nice people... that's how they get you. C'mon folks, you should not still be using "but hes so nice he couldnt have" logic. That fallacy has been refuted into the dirt, the discourse has evolved soooo far beyond that. If we could always tell who was *really* doing bad things just from their outward personality, then we wouldn't need a court system. Granted, there is no indication as of yet as to what specifically the offense was. But the church is acting suspiciously vague about it, and that is a huge red flag given their track record for covering up heinous things. If all he did was mess around or flirt with another adult, why don't they just come out and say that? It would help his case a lot more than staying silent. It's okay to have fond memories, and I think it's a damn shame this happened. But this is why you should never get too attached to your favorite youtubers.
@br.m
@br.m 5 сағат бұрын
A reminder of why we should call no man on earth Father
@shaunwest7784
@shaunwest7784 2 ай бұрын
This man is one of the people who brought me to the catholic faith, UponFriarReview was one of my favorite channels and it perhaps saved my soul 😢. I pray for everyone in this situation. Even if he's guilty, I still appreciate him for what he's done for me and others.
@damienasmodeus928
@damienasmodeus928 Ай бұрын
Everything you believe is based on lies.
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 11 күн бұрын
There has to be 2 sides, many priests who were accused weren't well liked or acted funny. I don't know him but I know a lot of people had him touch their lives and are heartbroken. I hope everyone is able to heal from this who was involved
@Xeavone
@Xeavone 14 күн бұрын
I was wondering why Upon Friar Reviews' channel was labeled as 'Blank Name' when cleaning out and organizing my subscription box. I'm not religious, nor attend any kind of church, but I very much enjoy learning different theologies, including major and minorital religions. How unfortunate, if the misconduct is true (which I wouldn't put it past the Catholic Church) I give my condolences to the victim(s) involved.
@hi2cole
@hi2cole 3 ай бұрын
This is hard to believe. I watched this guy a lot and even asked him a question over his livestream. I'm tempted to call this bs, but I just don't know.
@kingbradley9066
@kingbradley9066 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately he is human. A Sinner like the rest of us.
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 11 күн бұрын
Someone on FB when I googled his name said a woman was trying to get the charges not buried for a while. It's still so vague though. I'm not saying sexual misconduct is ever right or acceptable but was it against their will or grooming or with an adult who wanted to be with him?
@deb9806
@deb9806 11 күн бұрын
Well he's "accused" right now and being watched, I don't think they are done. There are priest abuse sites that list all accused and what happens. He just has "accused" right now.
@hi2cole
@hi2cole 11 күн бұрын
@workinprogress-ye5or I know. It's still wrong either way, but I have my doubts. I just want this to not be true. I admired this man before I converted. He just seemed so joyful and wholesome. If these accusations are true, which I hope they're false, I hope he at least confesses and lives in the truth again, even if he's removed from ministry.
@anthonylowder6687
@anthonylowder6687 11 күн бұрын
This IS bs on a grand scale…..don’t believe any of this my friend
@Andrea-cq6eg
@Andrea-cq6eg 5 күн бұрын
So, no updates....?
@nukebloc
@nukebloc 9 күн бұрын
NOOOOOOOO
@JBMystwind
@JBMystwind 3 ай бұрын
This is disconcerting... if there are even words for this. On one hand, I wish this were some sort of vicious lie. On the other hand, I hope any who were victim get some closure, sense of recovery, and semblance of justice that will help them through whatever it may have been they experienced. That said... I hope for recovery for Father Patrick as well, whether he strayed off the path or is dealing with slander against his name. I guess I just wish this wasn't true, but hope the best for all involved if it is.
@mrmorningstar4216
@mrmorningstar4216 3 ай бұрын
I agree. Ive talked with him alot and i just cant see him doing this
@Seek1878
@Seek1878 3 ай бұрын
@@mrmorningstar4216 Ted Bundy's friends said the same
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 11 күн бұрын
@@mrmorningstar4216 A woman posted on FB, he married her daughter, baptized the grandkids, she must be so shocked.
@jpbaugh
@jpbaugh 3 ай бұрын
Genuinely, we don't know what that actually means. It's very likely it wasn't criminal misconduct, but perhaps a moral failure on his part. I'm not Catholic, but I pray for his repentance and comfort to anyone involved with the situation.
@DeReAntiqua
@DeReAntiqua 5 күн бұрын
The post from his own buddies literally talks about an "abuse victim", guy...
@jpbaugh
@jpbaugh 5 күн бұрын
@@DeReAntiqua "abuse" can mean a lot of different things. In a setting where a church (Catholic or otherwise) applies scripture properly when dealing with such situations, the standard for what qualifies "abuse" can be much higher than just something being civilly illegal by the definition of local jurisdiction. It appears that he has certainly abused his power.
@DeReAntiqua
@DeReAntiqua 5 күн бұрын
@@jpbaugh That is some industrial-grade delusion right there. It's almost impressive.
@jpbaugh
@jpbaugh 5 күн бұрын
@@DeReAntiqua I have nothing to be deluded about. But I appreciate the ad hominem attack.
@DeReAntiqua
@DeReAntiqua 5 күн бұрын
@@jpbaugh You're in outright denial to the point where you try to twist his own order talking about an abuse victim into something that's innocent and "not really like that". That is about as delusional as you can get. He's a predator, and all the world knows it, but you.
@carolinet-s4866
@carolinet-s4866 22 күн бұрын
Praying for the truth to come out 🙏🙏🙏I sure hope it’s not true though.
@JustCarolS
@JustCarolS 9 күн бұрын
Keep in mind sexual misconduct doesn't necessarily mean he assaulted someone. It means he broke his vows to the church of celibacy.
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 7 күн бұрын
I wish they would have said a little more but I hope without criminal charges it isn't assault? I will check Bishop accountability site where they update if possible. I am still in the "denial" phase but almost out of it.
@DeReAntiqua
@DeReAntiqua 5 күн бұрын
When you're on the news, it's not because you had consensual relations with someone.
@deb9806
@deb9806 5 күн бұрын
@@DeReAntiqua I have a feeling it was unwanted advances but I hope they update. I hate for people to just makeup things in their mind and they said they would be transparent. But I don't know if orders are the same as a parish
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 5 күн бұрын
@@deb9806 They say they will tell you but I guess don't owe you if not criminal and charged. Then it's public. Time will tell. I didn't get a bad vibe from him the way I have with others but I know you can have many compartments as a human being.
@DeReAntiqua
@DeReAntiqua 5 күн бұрын
@@deb9806 His own order literally talked about an, and I quote, "abuse victim" in their statement.
@user-ul7ll6ud4n
@user-ul7ll6ud4n 17 күн бұрын
I thought he was one of the good ones. This is why I am suspicious of men who take vows of celibacy. Prayers for his victims.
@jalbertking5170
@jalbertking5170 2 ай бұрын
oh my goodness this is awful. I was wondering what happened
@deb9806
@deb9806 11 күн бұрын
Maybe more will come out later, priests are removed now quickly even before investigation is done fully. I don't blame them after they did such a deplorable job before. There are videos of the good work he did in various sites where he lived and people missing him. I know he helped a lot of people online. We can do good work and be disturbed in other areas though and I pray for the victims and him today. I hope the church is upfront what happened. They were with a priest from EWTN. It lessens the gossip and is better for everyone while keeping the victim's name and information safe.
@OrientL
@OrientL Ай бұрын
I'm completely shocked and disheartened by this news. I thought he was just on hiatus. I'm hoping that this was just a misunderstanding or a bad dream we all can just awaken from. My prayers go out to Fr. Pat and anyone involved in this. Let's move towards healing and forgiveness.
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 11 күн бұрын
His brother passed and Fr Casey said he was settling up things, he took it hard and maybe that was true but also other things going on with it.
@furydeath
@furydeath 7 күн бұрын
"god's plan" ~Patrick
@Deemememe
@Deemememe Ай бұрын
I loved their channel, his channel, listening to what he had to say and his sense of humor. But wrong is wrong. None of his good deeds outweighs this. He destroyed lives and y’all are feeling sorry for him. It’s sickening.
@chrisinreallife2022
@chrisinreallife2022 28 күн бұрын
What did he do? Its hard to expect total celibacy from ppl. It's normal and healthy to want those connections with other consenting adults. But he knew what he signed up for I guess. I really like him and their channel.
@donatella094
@donatella094 20 күн бұрын
100% this!
@mrmorningstar4216
@mrmorningstar4216 3 ай бұрын
Has there been any updates on this?
@generalpurpose772
@generalpurpose772 3 ай бұрын
@@NewZealandallblacks627 What sorts of things are they saying?
@CatMoves1
@CatMoves1 2 ай бұрын
@@NewZealandallblacks627 I can't find his Facebook page. Has it been taken down? I wondered what had happened to him and only just now came across this news brief. I am shocked at the allegations and refuse to believe them. Say it ain't so!
@splinterbyrd
@splinterbyrd 2 ай бұрын
​​@@CatMoves1 A statement from the Friars of the Province of Guadalupe on April 4 2024 says; _“During the independent investigation process and beyond, the province has offered outside pastoral care and counseling services to the abuse survivor who bravely came forward with the allegations.”_ That said, as far as I know Law Enforcement has not become involved, and he's not been chucked out of the priesthood (yet.)
@splinterbyrd
@splinterbyrd 2 ай бұрын
@@NewZealandallblacks627 Cheerz. No, there's no sense (so far) of anyone underage being involved.
@splinterbyrd
@splinterbyrd 2 ай бұрын
@@NewZealandallblacks627 I doubt the lawyers will answer either. Goodbye Fr Patrick, it was nice knowing you
@joshmccollen700
@joshmccollen700 21 күн бұрын
Damn. Really sad. I loved the old channel. And let's notice how the story made no mention of this being a criminal matter. It's purely a matter of whatever ethics the Church chooses to adhere to.
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 11 күн бұрын
I knew priests that people gossiped had affairs and they weren't sent away or duties removed but sometimes as with a priest at EWTN they have to be, when it involves a scandal or baby. I'm thinking a young adult or teen said something but IDK. There are priest abuse sites that post names of all priests accused, sued or convicted and Fr Patrick is just "accused" right now.
@TheTeddyBrosevelt
@TheTeddyBrosevelt Ай бұрын
Father Pat helped me a lot, and I can’t thank him enough for that help. Its allegations as of now, and his good deeds were numerous and I’m sure others can say he was a major impact to this world, however if this is true I don’t really care what you did and by doing this as a friar? Nope. I’m sorry but no , hopefully this isn’t true but jeez if it is yeah no that’s not okay
@ogar0930
@ogar0930 28 күн бұрын
I'm praying for you Father Pat. Keep the faith. God Bless and protect you always.
@luckystar9279
@luckystar9279 4 күн бұрын
It just occurred to me that I hadn't seen in a upon friar review for a while. Then I look it up and find this. O-O I hope he's doing alright. I'm still kinda confused
@Kayla-ey7zg
@Kayla-ey7zg Ай бұрын
This is so upsetting, as I myself knew Fr Patrick as well. What I will say though is that he wouldn't have been removed from ministry if the evidence wasn't truly bad, as the Friars statement said that it was a unanimous decision to remove him and have him under immediate monitoring. Praying for anyone affected by this, and also Fr Pat.
@deb9806
@deb9806 11 күн бұрын
Did they say "permanent" ? I wonder because a lot of priests are away a year or so and can't do mass etc. but later they find there wasn't enough. I fear there was then this time. The victims must have been truthful. A few weren't in the past it seems but most fight emotionally for a long time.
@yesstreasure
@yesstreasure 3 ай бұрын
According to the Franciscan friars?? 😢 let’s pray for him brothers and sisters 💔
@justinteehee4358
@justinteehee4358 3 ай бұрын
He belongs to the order of Franciscan Friars.
@Seek1878
@Seek1878 3 ай бұрын
pray for the victims
@BrandonMoki
@BrandonMoki 3 ай бұрын
Look at all the apologist in the comments. Good lord have mercy
@TheLuckyOne-rg4vk
@TheLuckyOne-rg4vk 3 күн бұрын
I scrolled through every comment just to find one other person who wasn't huffing copium. 😂
@splinterbyrd
@splinterbyrd 2 ай бұрын
It would be useful if the Friars were to be a bit more specific about the allegations; if not, rumour runs riot
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 11 күн бұрын
Yes, was it an adult or child? I know when a priest many years ago slept with a teen or young adult, he was removed because of the power structure. I get that but the church has been pretty open and if a child wouldn't there be criminal charges?
@splinterbyrd
@splinterbyrd 11 күн бұрын
@@workinprogress-ye5or Exactly. I've seen no information stating law enforcement has been involved.
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 11 күн бұрын
@@splinterbyrd Independent monitoring is something some orders do to make sure if criminal or credible the person doesn't do certain things but only criminal charges prevents someone from working places etc. I'm so confused. If they said "pending" or something like that. On Bishop accountability site which has a database it just says "accused".
@donatella094
@donatella094 20 күн бұрын
Yet another reason why I cannot bring myself back to the church. *grumbles in disgust*
@user-hv6yj6tu5y
@user-hv6yj6tu5y 5 күн бұрын
This makes me sad. While Fr. Corapi was a huge part in bringing me to the Catholic church, Fr. Pat was just seemed so lovable and good. It's sad that these two men who brought so many to the church or solidified their belief have both been removed from public view. I will not pass judgement until more is known, but I pray this isn't what is sounds like. So so sad.
@Jerseygirl777
@Jerseygirl777 Ай бұрын
I don’t believe it. There are evil people in this country and he’s not one of them. Stay encouraged Father Pat!
@damienasmodeus928
@damienasmodeus928 Ай бұрын
So naive
@Jerseygirl777
@Jerseygirl777 Ай бұрын
@@damienasmodeus928 Not at all. Unlike you, I’ve actually talked to father Pat and have known him for over a year. Don’t be so fast to judge.
@furydeath
@furydeath 7 күн бұрын
@@Jerseygirl777 so youre saying the chucher is lying?
@simplyjoe2757
@simplyjoe2757 2 ай бұрын
This is a lie he dwould never do such a thing.
@harryfaber
@harryfaber 2 ай бұрын
As things stand, we do not know what 'such a thing' it is alleged he did. It is right that any priest under investigation is suspended from public ministry, it is right that an investigation takes place, and it is right that if any person has breached law or perhaps just 'moral standards', they and any purported victims are treated with justice.
@splinterbyrd
@splinterbyrd 2 ай бұрын
An official statement issued by the Friars of the Province of Our Lady of Guadalupe says “During the independent investigation process and beyond, the province has offered outside pastoral care and counseling services to the abuse survivor who bravely came forward with the allegations.” (April 4 2024)
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 11 күн бұрын
@@splinterbyrd But has it been vetted and proven? Did he admit it? It just says accused on abuse site and they always update to "convicted" or sued or whatever the outcome is. Some priests are removed for over a year and cleared. They were vague.
@splinterbyrd
@splinterbyrd 11 күн бұрын
@@workinprogress-ye5or Well there's no information to say law-enforcement has been involved, so presumably no criminal law has been broken regarding age-group or lack of consent. It is of course just possible the law has been broken, but the victim has chosen not to involve police Sounds like Tuttle's either been having an affair with, or making unwelcome advances towards another adult. Can't be anything too serious or I guess they'd have booted him out of the priesthood. He's probably just been having difficulty keeping his pants on beneath the habit
@ryanscottlogan8459
@ryanscottlogan8459 10 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kbennett2587
@kbennett2587 16 күн бұрын
Him????!!!!!!! HIM !!!!!!!!!!???????? OF ALL THE WOULD BE PEOPLE ON KZfaq HE'D BE THE LAST ONE I WOULD THINK IT.
@lew115
@lew115 14 күн бұрын
A catholic priest??? LOL. Come on son.
@kbennett2587
@kbennett2587 13 күн бұрын
@lew115 you know, I get that, but he literally said repeatedly that sex was not a issue for him on KZfaq.
@lew115
@lew115 13 күн бұрын
@@kbennett2587 If he was saying it repeatedly, that would be a massive red flag in itself. The lady doth protest too much.
@user-dq5th7cz3c
@user-dq5th7cz3c 5 күн бұрын
He is a creep. Typical high and might d-bag who judges others while being an awful person
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