The better character won.

I don’t really see how you can just be so sure that he underestimated spargo. He just unfortunately didn’t make the correct plays at every opportunity, it happens to the best of us. If anything, he seemed very nervous to fight spargo. I saw him missing moves that he normally rarely misses.

@@asuuki2048 I'm basing my opinion off of what he said and his demeanor on Lights Out. Not really the set itself. But it's just my opinion.

As a gren player myself, cloud down air demolishes setups for that since cloud can then make himself safe afterwards. but yea they're so rewarding

It's called "Lament of Innocence", it's from Castlevania

monky

Lament of innocence

so greninja’s up-B Hydro Pump is like Mario’s FLUDD, where it basically pushes the oppenent with water. for some reason certain angles push oppenents who are recovering SUPER HIGH and i don’t understand it. maybe it’s like riding waves idk?

weird water physics in this game... been a greninja main and I got used to water shooting up people when they do certain up-b's. still a good option to kill confirm tho! (kinda like Mario's FLUDD)

Counter, as a move, on every character, sucks. Joker’s Arsene counter is the best one and still it’s rarely used. They’re only used against recoveries mainly. If you know your opponent will hit you, which I assume you do since you’re using the move that only works if they hit you, just move out of the way or hit them first. Don’t use a move which will make you more vulnerable than you will ever normally be during a match, even defensively it’s better to just airdodge than risk a counter. And they don’t hit that hard, since at the top level it’s so much more common to use medium or light hits against your opponent at high percentage instead of using a slow bit hit and counter scale with how powerful the hit is. It’s high risk low reward

@@turntech4776 then wouldn't that have made the perfect mixup during those last hit moments? To seal the deal? I know Greninja's counter can be very versatile since you can choose the direction of the attack

@@jimmydjomo1767 because you just die if you’re wrong, and you mayyybe kill if you’re right. Gambling like that doesn’t get you to the top level

@@turntech4776 ok but Cloud has some go-to kill options like that shotgun bair. I'm definitely a novice but a hard call-out from all the pressure can make the opponent think twice

@@jimmydjomo1767 it’s worse than just, playing an attack, if you’re confident they’re gonna hit you, just play an attack lmao. But I’ll tell you what, just go play against a lvl9 cpu even and see how often counter gets you hit

gren has a wack parry game

​@@SuperAaron360he does not

​@@a1marine105yes he does footstools arent good

No it's too safe

Space bair is pretty safe even on parries. It's also not really worth the risk if you aren't confident because Cloud gets so much off of hit/advantage.

took a game from sparg0 tho, not bad