WTTC: Zhang Jike-Timo Boll

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World Table Tennis Championships,08 May 2011 - 15 May 2011, Rotterdam, NED. Men's Singles Semifinal.

Пікірлер: 209
@MiguelVanEs
@MiguelVanEs 9 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best games in history
@gladman9634
@gladman9634 3 жыл бұрын
Haha
@drosenstroem
@drosenstroem 3 жыл бұрын
Truly
@YourMaster86
@YourMaster86 8 жыл бұрын
When interviewed not so long ago, Zhang was asked what the best match of his career was. His response was this match here, against Timo Boll.
@tianrongwang5061
@tianrongwang5061 5 жыл бұрын
It was the beginning of his grand slam.
@TheRafaelBond
@TheRafaelBond 5 жыл бұрын
source?
@PhiBrian
@PhiBrian 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheRafaelBond His imagination xD
@PatrickChoi
@PatrickChoi 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheRafaelBond In a butterfly interview, was long ago
@edwardshowden5511
@edwardshowden5511 4 жыл бұрын
@@PhiBrian No, he really said that
@lukeasuncion3163
@lukeasuncion3163 Жыл бұрын
Zhang Jike was unstoppable. So inspirational
@Chiaki324
@Chiaki324 7 жыл бұрын
There are too many top players in China, and Zhang was not given many chances for international competitions. This was his first WTTC men's single and he was 23. He caught the chance and he was just amazing. He is now the oldest player in the Chinese team. Hope he can overcome the injuries! I wish to see him on the match again. Wish him all the best!
@emersonsitorus1136
@emersonsitorus1136 3 жыл бұрын
He won gold medal in olympic
@user-lq2nu6cn7y
@user-lq2nu6cn7y 3 жыл бұрын
@@emersonsitorus1136 This match was 2011.
@user-gm2pb1tu9l
@user-gm2pb1tu9l 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah comparing to Ma Long which allowed to play in WTTC multiple time Zhang had only one chance.
@xingnanzav
@xingnanzav 7 жыл бұрын
Technical analysis. From the beginning, TB's strategy was to stay close to the table and play fast. This was to avoid ZJK's heavy spin rally. The strategy worked in the first game. ZJK couldn't get ready to launch powerful attack and TB won by superior agility. However, starting from the second game, ZJK improved the return of services with more backhand spin. TB couldn't generate high-speed returns and ZJK's rally strength started to dominate. This lasted to the end of the game. There are several things TB could have done to change the game. First, change the service style. TB tried a couple of time serve long into ZJK's backhand. However, the service quality was poor. The services were not fast enough. Lacking serving variety became lethal in this top players battle. Second, withdraw from the table. After TB lost speed advantage, he could have withdrawn from the table to avoid too many block returns. Block returns are ideal for ZJK's furious attack. Third, TB could have tried to place the ball more to the center of the table. In my view, strategy and coach were the most decisive factor in this game. TB had a good plan at the start but lacks the flexibility to adjust throughout the game. This game reminds me words of my coach. Play the way you feel comfortable. If that does not work well, play the way that makes your opponent feel uncomfortable.
@asiftamim4811
@asiftamim4811 6 жыл бұрын
Play the way you feel comfortable. If that does not work well, play the way that makes your opponent feel uncomfortable. This line is great.
@mustafagokalp1818
@mustafagokalp1818 5 жыл бұрын
great comment. thanks.
@tabletenniskid432
@tabletenniskid432 5 жыл бұрын
Nan Xing please make your game analysis channel to help amature players like me able to understand high level match like this.
@Dr.Murat-Korbai
@Dr.Murat-Korbai 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for analysis the game🙏
@edwardshowden5511
@edwardshowden5511 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Timo should have tried serving with more side-rotation or maybe to his wide forhand so it would be much harder to flick. Also he should changing more tempo plus rotation /easier said than done/ And stay closer to the table as he did in the first game. Unfortunately Timo played generally predictable tennis throughout his whole career.
@AndyJ658
@AndyJ658 10 жыл бұрын
ZJK's backhand was amazing as always.
@gustavmardby9364
@gustavmardby9364 9 жыл бұрын
Timo played really well. But Zhang was like a machine and still won pretty easily.
@dajiangliu9217
@dajiangliu9217 9 жыл бұрын
Timo actually played very well. If you looked at game 5, Timo must be like: what else can I do??
@maryamab9700
@maryamab9700 4 жыл бұрын
Its the 20th time im watching this game and its nvr get old for me . The best game between jike and timo
@user-pb8vo7vz4e
@user-pb8vo7vz4e 9 жыл бұрын
Best status of ZJK I have ever seen
@eduardolodato8932
@eduardolodato8932 3 жыл бұрын
Its Posible he was the most natural talent table tennis player, yours matchs with Ma Long are legendarys and they will be remembered as the best in the history of this sport
@yeagerist977
@yeagerist977 3 жыл бұрын
Keep spamming the same dumb comment
@DungHoang-js3cy
@DungHoang-js3cy 4 жыл бұрын
6:01 WTH??. ZJ played like a machine
@Mike-bt3ki
@Mike-bt3ki 4 жыл бұрын
Man that guy Zhang Jike in slo motion spins his racket and it rotates 2-3 times when the ball is coming towards him then he grabs the bat in a perfect position in enough time to hit a topspin forehand back. The natural instinct is crazy imagine how many hours they practice
@subandijosoprawiro514
@subandijosoprawiro514 Жыл бұрын
one of my fav. table tennis player, Zhang Jike
@skmajor7425
@skmajor7425 8 жыл бұрын
Zhang went into beast mode in this match
@clashwithgarry929
@clashwithgarry929 4 жыл бұрын
omg
@junior81291
@junior81291 2 жыл бұрын
Jike at the prime is the best table tennis player ever
@seeker3983
@seeker3983 2 жыл бұрын
@@junior81291 ma long is
@PongKingKong
@PongKingKong Жыл бұрын
Zhang Jike was a beast
@paddle_smith
@paddle_smith 5 жыл бұрын
I like the genuine eye contact Timo gives at the end of the match.
@rap4live39
@rap4live39 2 жыл бұрын
Thats real sportsmanship
@Fakeslimshady
@Fakeslimshady Жыл бұрын
Asserting dominance
@emersonsitorus1136
@emersonsitorus1136 3 жыл бұрын
Graceful as always. A true sportsman.
@pham1020
@pham1020 8 жыл бұрын
The fast and furious rallies in this match just show how the game is on a different level now compare to the 80's. I never see fast rally like that in the 80's matches footage that I watched.
@pkc456
@pkc456 9 жыл бұрын
amazing gameplay!
@JosephCPK
@JosephCPK 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic skills and match by both players !
@deviljones992
@deviljones992 5 жыл бұрын
Legend ❤️😖
@drlj
@drlj 5 жыл бұрын
peak time of zhang jike so young so powerful no fear
@user-su9dm2zt4m
@user-su9dm2zt4m 7 жыл бұрын
5:53 not human reaction . Best point of the game . You are welcome
@robertodinor5978
@robertodinor5978 3 жыл бұрын
zhang jike amazing game.
@christianadriananiceta2753
@christianadriananiceta2753 7 жыл бұрын
6:36 jesus look at those forehand topspins... so beautiful
@Glider12396
@Glider12396 6 жыл бұрын
Best zjk game imo
@gloinpower
@gloinpower 7 жыл бұрын
Nowadays ZJK plays like he doesn't give a shit. If he would still play like this FZD had no chance against him
@BurritoBrooks
@BurritoBrooks 10 жыл бұрын
Nice rally at 6:01
@mustafagokalp1818
@mustafagokalp1818 5 жыл бұрын
magnificent game. Zhang Jike is too strong.
@dinhthitran3000
@dinhthitran3000 7 жыл бұрын
*It seems this video disappeared for long time? Anyone can explain why?*
@kevinzhang3891
@kevinzhang3891 4 жыл бұрын
慢热,而后摧枯拉朽
@a1988ditya
@a1988ditya 5 жыл бұрын
Lol zhang jike was a beast back then ...
@tiayanger1
@tiayanger1 8 жыл бұрын
best player in the world
@KYchiu402
@KYchiu402 10 жыл бұрын
8:20-8:26 Xu XIn, Wang Linqi and Ma Long HAD NO RESPONSE!!!!!
@khanhsp
@khanhsp 10 жыл бұрын
They must be thinking: "That is easy. I can do it, too!" haha
@uchihamadara7248
@uchihamadara7248 5 жыл бұрын
@@khanhsp how is beating timo an easy task?
@khanhsp
@khanhsp 5 жыл бұрын
@@uchihamadara7248 I was just, um pretending to be a Chinese player :D
@hugohamonangan9639
@hugohamonangan9639 4 жыл бұрын
@@khanhsp 8:20
@magnushammersmith121
@magnushammersmith121 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Noticed that too. In fact, they are THE ONLY Chinese people caught on camera who didn't react at all. Everybody else is cheering and/or clapping.
@user-kp3ci8ok1z
@user-kp3ci8ok1z 3 жыл бұрын
best backhand of the world at 2011~2013.
@KarimVite
@KarimVite 4 жыл бұрын
ZJK the monster among men. G.O.A.T.
@yeagerist977
@yeagerist977 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah if Ma long didn’t exist ZJK def would be the GOAT
@KarimVite
@KarimVite 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeagerist977 Don't forget the ZJK injuries.
@shuishibiddd5539
@shuishibiddd5539 3 жыл бұрын
@@KarimVite I am zhang fan for sure but at that time ma long beat prime zhang so many time
@LeDrummerDu88
@LeDrummerDu88 9 жыл бұрын
Good chance for Asian Games ZJK ♥ (27 Oct) and for WTTC China 2015 => your third WTTC title ! in a row !!
@MuhtesemPapyrus
@MuhtesemPapyrus Жыл бұрын
I ENJOY THE ZHANG JİKE❤❤💪💪🏓🇹🇷
@user-hd2cy5gx8j
@user-hd2cy5gx8j 9 жыл бұрын
打不过就找别的理由,真是服了这些留言者了,看技术好不,再说张继科也没什么失礼的地方。
@kenzhou10
@kenzhou10 5 жыл бұрын
Godly performance
@alc2522
@alc2522 5 жыл бұрын
張継科がゾーン入ってる
@rohanaismail9011
@rohanaismail9011 4 жыл бұрын
Goooooooo!!!!
@aslamislam4562
@aslamislam4562 2 жыл бұрын
Smart zhang, first.attack the middle body of timo, and and then attack timo's forehand side timo's forehand was weak
@mr.chowderstreams2115
@mr.chowderstreams2115 5 жыл бұрын
2018???
@junior81291
@junior81291 6 жыл бұрын
Jike on fire
@unkounn
@unkounn 8 жыл бұрын
ZJK has special power to win.
@viclean2926
@viclean2926 Жыл бұрын
Boll will never forget this massacre. Jike made history. This chinese generaration now (except ma long & fzd) is ridiculously weak.
@vitaliykolisnychenko7156
@vitaliykolisnychenko7156 4 ай бұрын
Showing index finger is not the sign of apology, but the sign of arrogance. Strange that some players don't get it.
@suar99x29
@suar99x29 4 жыл бұрын
Today we had cloud walker and dictactor. Good play
@jk9111
@jk9111 3 жыл бұрын
100K!
@jonnybaumhaus3903
@jonnybaumhaus3903 9 жыл бұрын
Beste boll Form überhaupt
@TheJustin500
@TheJustin500 5 жыл бұрын
The transition to the polyball really destroyed Zhang's style of play.
@jatonator
@jatonator 4 жыл бұрын
Knight Davion please elaborate. Why so?
@type-b
@type-b 5 жыл бұрын
06:02 Rally of game
@PJ-kg2pw
@PJ-kg2pw 10 жыл бұрын
Chad Dammar I think it did, I am sure that it did but both players and everyone else clearly didn't see it at the time. Bad luck for Timo Boll.
@user-hr1os8ky3j
@user-hr1os8ky3j Ай бұрын
We can see how he works so hard through his tigh muscle
@scottlo211
@scottlo211 9 жыл бұрын
Lol after Timo won the 1st set, it just awoken the beast inside of Zhang! He was definitely sending a message to the German team.
@user-hv8bb5wk3c
@user-hv8bb5wk3c 7 жыл бұрын
7:35 ♥
@DenissGoodd
@DenissGoodd 9 жыл бұрын
надо подачи потренировать)
@user-zw5lt4nd6h
@user-zw5lt4nd6h 5 жыл бұрын
Boll is a gentleman, but unfortunately powerful kid is the most difficult to beat
@ayushverma2980
@ayushverma2980 5 жыл бұрын
He was in pressure at the last timo
@preult14250310
@preult14250310 8 жыл бұрын
Zhang Jike 4:39 Ma Lin mode, 6:01 SUPER MODE
@user-iy7xk5wp5q
@user-iy7xk5wp5q 2 жыл бұрын
the moment monster awaken
@evgeniakara1794
@evgeniakara1794 8 жыл бұрын
I wanted Timo Boll to win , but Zhang Jike played amazing
@user-kq1xt7sv1y
@user-kq1xt7sv1y 2 жыл бұрын
Жан,в отличной форме был.в то время соперников вообще не было.
@limwenhao1999
@limwenhao1999 9 жыл бұрын
U people not asians probably wants timo to be the best but asians dominate this sport juz like america dominates basketball
@riley1160
@riley1160 9 жыл бұрын
You do realise, arguably the greatest player for a long time was a swedish player called Jan Ove Waldner. Before Liu Guoliang became coach, Sweden was the number one country in the world of table tennis. Please don't go all around saying asians always dominate this sport because that's not hasn't always been true. China is just so ahead of the game currently because their coach and their devotion for the sport is almost un parrellel.
@sultanabran1
@sultanabran1 9 жыл бұрын
riley1160 so you're saying china IS dominating the sport
@kennethli8
@kennethli8 7 жыл бұрын
I'm American Chinese. China dominated most of the 60s and 80s. The Swedish men team dominated from 1989 to 1994. Overall China dominated since 2000 until now. In the late 90s, China was still the more dominant team compared to Sweden. With respect to basketball, USA men basketball IQ have been falling and the rest of the world are getting better and better.
@kennethli8
@kennethli8 7 жыл бұрын
Please disregard my prior comments but I think people should enjoy the game and stop trying to compare which country is more dominant in this sport.
@xiaoyuchen2967
@xiaoyuchen2967 5 жыл бұрын
霸气q
@user-fr1ri9gd9y
@user-fr1ri9gd9y 3 жыл бұрын
탁구라켓계의 양대산맥
@LordMiners
@LordMiners 6 жыл бұрын
put the best ma long in this game, it'd still be a 50-50
@Mbappe-better-than-jotland
@Mbappe-better-than-jotland Ай бұрын
3:30 he figured something And beats the hell out of him
@user-hr1os8ky3j
@user-hr1os8ky3j Жыл бұрын
his best condition in his life
@omaicatobi301
@omaicatobi301 5 жыл бұрын
Shit commentators... trying to make timo ball so good... you dont have to do that, he must show it up in the match... it was great match... but commentators didn't give Zhang his right in the comment
@jikezhang2995
@jikezhang2995 5 жыл бұрын
When I was destroying the whole table tennis world.
@bisujin1685
@bisujin1685 5 жыл бұрын
But you are still scared shitless when facing Ma Long. 😁😂
@kerimcabbar7159
@kerimcabbar7159 5 жыл бұрын
6:01
@danilrosser
@danilrosser 8 жыл бұрын
Жаль , что он теперь такого огня не имеет как тогда. Такой энергии , огня в глазах и движениях.
@user-xo5cu3jl4r
@user-xo5cu3jl4r 5 жыл бұрын
丟什麼球拍
@darkflamemaster7274
@darkflamemaster7274 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a Taiwanese, China's table tennis is very strong. Their player like Wang Hao, Zhang Jike, Ma long, Xu xin, Ma Lin..... can be the top players in the world! But our team, which is called Chinese Taipei, we still have a player called Chuang Chih-Yuan, he is one of the top players in the world, too. ...... Whatever, I just like Table Tennis !
@user-cx5sx9zz6l
@user-cx5sx9zz6l 6 жыл бұрын
Taiwan is a part of China no matter ROC map or PRC map , Taiwan also just a province😂
@spairlee
@spairlee 5 жыл бұрын
It's true. Taiwan is just a province of ROC. There are two Chinas in the world. Territories claimed by ROC are much bigger than claimed by PRC. And none of them is practical.
@user-uz5sl5no4r
@user-uz5sl5no4r 2 жыл бұрын
Тимо игра не агрессивна. Когда можно атаковать со стола,в верхней точке,он опускает мяч за стол и делает навесной топспин. Отсюда и проигрыши.
@user-tc4mp8pw4x
@user-tc4mp8pw4x 5 жыл бұрын
Poor timo
@katu9153
@katu9153 11 ай бұрын
人間味があるね、どっちも。
@ismaechegaray8165
@ismaechegaray8165 5 жыл бұрын
Enserio soy el unico argentino que ve esto????
@user-mw6xl3lo7n
@user-mw6xl3lo7n 5 жыл бұрын
when zhang won, malong and wangliqin didn't cheer
@user-jt9lw3hb1d
@user-jt9lw3hb1d 9 жыл бұрын
사스가 명경기
@user-jt9lw3hb1d
@user-jt9lw3hb1d 7 жыл бұрын
이동찬 지금은 예전만하지는 않아도 중국 외에는 다이김 아직두...
@user-jt9lw3hb1d
@user-jt9lw3hb1d 7 жыл бұрын
이동찬 걍 천재임 ㅋ 부상만없었어도
@user-jt9lw3hb1d
@user-jt9lw3hb1d 7 жыл бұрын
이동찬 저와같은 지커 빠 인거같네욤 ㅋ 탁구한번 같이 치고싶어요
@user-jt9lw3hb1d
@user-jt9lw3hb1d 7 жыл бұрын
헐 그런일도있었나요... 카톡 친추하실래용?
@SayanGoko
@SayanGoko 6 жыл бұрын
That commentstor bugs the hell out of me! I would rather there not be one than to listen to this crap
@DmitriyShuvalov
@DmitriyShuvalov 4 жыл бұрын
Молодой прям взлетел пару раз.... Ну молодец, выиграть у Тимо Болла это сто пудов железные яйца - имею ввиду психика прокачана должна быть.
@adilet2370
@adilet2370 2 жыл бұрын
Zhang Jike обыгрывал в то время Ванг Хао, если и волноваться то только Тимо Боллю
@user-po1ki4ib5s
@user-po1ki4ib5s 4 жыл бұрын
Jike vinner
@davidxiao64
@davidxiao64 5 жыл бұрын
So Harimoto wasn’t the first to scream every point 😂
@pham1020
@pham1020 4 жыл бұрын
But Harimoto is the first to scream every point in every match lol
@giovannimalca9175
@giovannimalca9175 2 жыл бұрын
@@pham1020 LOL hahahahaha
@danieldrahotta6863
@danieldrahotta6863 3 жыл бұрын
Das asiatische jubeln der Spieler ist irgendwie komisch, aber vlltist das beiden ganz normal.....
@zerotalent191
@zerotalent191 2 жыл бұрын
Juckt?
@limhyeon4734
@limhyeon4734 2 жыл бұрын
この時のボルの方が全然つよいなぁ。脇腹怪我してたからしょうがないけど。
@TableTennis-Man
@TableTennis-Man 8 жыл бұрын
nobody can win CHINA if China Team does not want you to win....Rule 1 China team if they want to win they will win all World Championship ...Rule 2 No other rules...Rule 3
@user-cx5sx9zz6l
@user-cx5sx9zz6l 6 жыл бұрын
ur comment is so rude...Rule 4😂
@devanshdubey8436
@devanshdubey8436 6 жыл бұрын
If Timo uses His legendary backhand in Whole Match than you can see his World ranking...... Rule 5😂😂😂
@kimam9776
@kimam9776 4 жыл бұрын
Lúc zhang giành chiến thắng ma long ko thèm vỗ tay chúc mừng mặt thì hằm hằm, mang tiếng bạn bè cc j vậy
@convergency1068
@convergency1068 6 жыл бұрын
Jike annihilated Timo...
@maultasche668
@maultasche668 6 жыл бұрын
Boll lost the match with the turn arounds. He tried to turn around his backhand too many times and missed many shots. His backhand is not bad, why didn't he used his backhand to play the balls on the table? I'm disapointet about Zhang, he shows that his respect from the opponent is very low.
@Kevin-zl3ci
@Kevin-zl3ci 6 жыл бұрын
Maultasche123 45 there are 2 ways you can take his screaming here is an example i would never cho against a player that are weaker than myself but against i player i consider good i would be pumped palying and cho very much ofc not on thinks line a failed push but when i feel i did something good
@maultasche668
@maultasche668 6 жыл бұрын
Kezito you're right, I didn't see this aspect. Thank you, for your answer.
@Kevin-zl3ci
@Kevin-zl3ci 6 жыл бұрын
remember there are always to sides of a story plus its not like its on harimotos lvl screaming on pretty much everything except net; edge or serve fail
@crizzey
@crizzey 5 жыл бұрын
zhang play like old man
@martinwille9154
@martinwille9154 8 жыл бұрын
So ein aso
@christiaanellis7391
@christiaanellis7391 9 жыл бұрын
the older guy had so much steam in the 1st. his movement matched the exuberance of the youthful athlete. He just lost momentum\stamina (like mike tyson) and i bet its because of the age. I bet if he was 8 years younger this asian player would not stand a chance.
@Young3Buck
@Young3Buck 9 жыл бұрын
you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. you don't even know WHO you're talking about.
@Young3Buck
@Young3Buck 9 жыл бұрын
littleAlex44 your 'hypothesis' is that since zhang jike is younger, he has more stamina. zhang jike is probably top 3 all time. he won because this was the beginning of his prime and he was simply better. nobody can touch zhang jike when he's focused, even today. it has nothing to do with youthful exuberance or losing stamina.
@littleAlex44
@littleAlex44 9 жыл бұрын
FUTURE 2070 trice wRONG, the hypothesis was, if timo was 8 years younger he would have won this match. lets not forget stats on world rankings a decade ago. you loose their too.. also, Ma Long can touch zhange anywhere he wants (yes there 2);-p PLUS+ youthful exuberance has a LOT to with it. take a look at any athletic sport for stats on old vs. young. You clearly do not know wtf you're taking about.
@littleAlex44
@littleAlex44 9 жыл бұрын
FUTURE 2070 and you actually concur here that he won because he was at prime. what is your argument about anyway?
@Young3Buck
@Young3Buck 9 жыл бұрын
littleAlex44 so if timo boll were 8 years younger he would've beaten zhang jike at the wttc? zhang jike has never lost a single match here. timo boll has never won it all here. what makes you think a younger boll would suddenly win? boll, ma long and almost everyone has beaten zhang jike at some point. but boll was ranked number 1 in the world for 3 months to start off 2011 and lost it to wang hao. zhang jike beat both of them in the same tourney. i'm not saying boll cant beat jike, but simply saying if he'd win if he were 8 years younger makes no sense.
@ABC-gy7sv
@ABC-gy7sv 5 жыл бұрын
Boll is strong.but he is weaker than zhannjige.
@zazenforever4940
@zazenforever4940 8 жыл бұрын
Good grief! Does Jike need to scream after every point he wins? Immature and no class.
@Deathranger999
@Deathranger999 7 жыл бұрын
Zazen forever Some people are like that. It's not because he's showing off, necessarily, he just gets so into the game that there's some tension that needs to be released after every point.
@zazenforever4940
@zazenforever4940 7 жыл бұрын
Give me a break, have them go take a shower then. They are even teaching kids to do this now. So stupid.
@Deathranger999
@Deathranger999 7 жыл бұрын
Zazen forever You haven't yet said anything that actually makes sense as an argument against what I said.
@zazenforever4940
@zazenforever4940 7 жыл бұрын
Whether he needs to "release tension" (whatever that means) or not, as a great player you should be able to control yourself in these situations. How many times did Waldner scream as much as this. It is just rude and immature.
@greenLinkLP
@greenLinkLP 7 жыл бұрын
Zazen forever chill. He was playing in the wttc, which is one of the highest table tennis tournaments out there. They train all their life to get to this level, so who are you to criticize them? You just don't seem to be able to imagine how high the pressure is.
@showy-nigenaide
@showy-nigenaide 4 жыл бұрын
蝶形花の打ち方ダサい
@pingponghd1212
@pingponghd1212 9 ай бұрын
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