【Wuthering Waves】S6R5 Jiyan vs S6R5 Jinhsi Tower of Adversity Comparison (JIYAN POWERCREPT?!)

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19 күн бұрын

I am only recording this for fun and since my friends asked me for it. While Jiyan is handicapped with non max skill level and Tower Buff favoring Jinhsi, he still performs around the same as Jinhi. The difference would be Jinhsi has time stop there. Also, for those who keep saying I should've just finished off the rotation after first verina outro then I'm here to tell you that I had already tested that and the hp left is around 15% or so forcing Jinhsi to finish it off with a no stack skill which is the reason why I had to give Taoqi skill buff. Another thing to keep in mind is that this is just for fun and not to prove that one is better than another.
TLDR: Both are very good (no powercrept for whale side at least) and play whichever you find more fun or even both.
Tower Buff: Casting Resonance Skill grants the Resonator 60% Resonance Liberation DMG Bonus for 15s and casting Resonance Liberation grants the Resonator 60% Resonance Skill DMG Bonus for 15s. (No Heavy Attack Buff)
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@scryoniichan 17 күн бұрын

Proof that Jinhsi is better (UPDATED RUN WITH GUANTLET USER): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btWXf8Rzxr2Zc58.html ALSO IM TOO LAZY TO EXPLAIN TO YALL SINCE YOU WONT CHECK THE DESCRIPTION SO HAVE YALL LITTLE WAR DOWN THERE

@ludicolo1106 16 күн бұрын

The conclusion jiyan = jinshi. Hope when chang li release , chang li bettee than jinshi. Cant wait yourbnew upcoming video that tell chang li better than jinshi 😂

@julius_pat 16 күн бұрын

@@ludicolo1106that's honestly just cope, numbers are already out and Jinhsi is better.

@Murasaki897 16 күн бұрын

All we need is a skill amplifier who's fast at building concerto and maybe deal some decent dmg or something other utility.. Just compare mortefi with taoqi.. it's like comparing a super fast race car with a slow as F scooter.. And jinhsi will be better.. however, jiyan and jinhsi might be close to the same. At S0R1, i don't know if jiyan comes, because you can do much faster rotations with yuanwu and verina 💀

@ShuraBeem 15 күн бұрын

@@julius_patpaper impact is real in you. Both are great characters. Jinhsi will always have an edge over single enemy for sure. But Jiyan main focus is his AoE.

@julius_pat 15 күн бұрын

@@ShuraBeem sorry but I should've clarified sooner, I was talking about Chang Li at that statement.

@LukeLTD 17 күн бұрын

Insane dollar per second on this video!

@user-qh9vk7cu3z 15 күн бұрын

LMAO

@etr_drx2467 14 күн бұрын

This is the comment i agree with the most on this battlefield of a comment section

@user-xo9ex3go1r 16 күн бұрын

For everybody still bashing jiyan, compare the echoes. Jinshi almost quite literally has a perfect echoes while jiyan has 60% crit value less than jinhsi. And he still cleared it with only 2 seconds difference. But i guess everyone just wanna bash jiyan for no reason anyway lol

@namamara 16 күн бұрын

bro, look closely, the way jinhsi has more crit value is because 44111 formation on the echos, while jiyan has 43311 formation

@lilwatcher101 16 күн бұрын

Jiyan does 0 dps stop coping

@user-xo9ex3go1r 16 күн бұрын

@@namamaradoesn't change the fact every piece has atk and reso skill bonus. If you dont call that perfect i dont know what is

@user-xo9ex3go1r 16 күн бұрын

@@namamara and again, even with 44111 formation, it means jiyan still at least lacking 16% crit vales than jinhsi. And he cleared it 2 seconds worse. So yeah, their dps is practically rly close whether you like it or not

@user-xo9ex3go1r 16 күн бұрын

@@lilwatcher101 that's cool jf you wanna call observation coping. I don't even have s6r5 jiyan, what's there to cope for

@haughtyaoirien8404 16 күн бұрын

Damage per second vs Damage per screenshot

@tsukiri_masho 16 күн бұрын

I have nothing left unsaid

@maxplaysgamez-sharesgaming1756 16 күн бұрын

🎻🔥🩰💃

@Windtorment 2 күн бұрын

🎻 🔥 🎻 🔥

@banhbanhbanh 17 күн бұрын

Wow great side by side comparison! I'm so happy to see that Jiyan hasn't been powercrept 1 month in the game and is still comparable to Jinhsi.

@minhlamat2879 17 күн бұрын

this is s6r5 showcase so it doesn't really tell much for the average player

@banhbanhbanh 17 күн бұрын

@@minhlamat2879 I would actually coin myself as an above average player, so I would say this does indeed tell me much since I have both of these units.

@lichmourne00 17 күн бұрын

@banhbanhbanh if you were above average, you would understand how timestop works and that Jinhsi was actually faster, lol.

@minhlamat2879 17 күн бұрын

@@lichmourne00 i mean money-wise

@teucerceoofgenshincreative8019 17 күн бұрын

🤡🤡🤡 do you even S6 him lmao. Also you can't double boss with Jiyan that's sucks.

@lukeaquino7141 16 күн бұрын

Jinhsi with Yuanwu is proven to be faster and more efficient at building stacks spamming those nuke dmg.

@static6501 15 күн бұрын

Taoqi has better speedrun potential for a nuke dmg with high sequence jinhsi unlike yuanwu which is for casual jinhsi gameplay with more rotations

@N.biebie8428 11 күн бұрын

@@static6501 Jinhsi+Taoqi+Yuanwu is ideal team for her no need verina. put healing echo set on Yuanwu and healing gauntlet on him so he can activate Atk% buff

@LostWallet 11 күн бұрын

faster nuke, but weaker nuke. with Yuanwu, she might even need 2 rotations.

@lukeaquino7141 11 күн бұрын

@@LostWallet not really 2 rotations that's too exaggerated

@LostWallet 11 күн бұрын

@@lukeaquino7141 actually, the video description said that without Taoqi buff, the boss dont die in 1 rotation, so yeh, and having to do another rotation would definitely make her lose the comparison

@CashySwanson 17 күн бұрын

Moral of the story... We need taoqi to get concerto up faster so jinhsi can do damage not once jiyan has already finished his ult...

@scryoniichan 17 күн бұрын

@@CashySwanson yeah hoping they release a fast concerto charging skill dmg buffer

@P.X.R.P.L.E 16 күн бұрын

@@scryoniichanisn’t that Taoqi? I don’t know her kit very well through

@Eloux 16 күн бұрын

@@P.X.R.P.L.E "fast concerto" taoqi fails here

@P.X.R.P.L.E 16 күн бұрын

@@Eloux ok thank you I read the original comment to quick lol

@N.biebie8428 11 күн бұрын

i mean at this point Jinhsi was waiting for Taoqi to gain enough energy so she can use her outro skill buff since c2 jinhsi have full forte at the beginning of fight, the problem is not jinshsi it's Taoqi taking too much time gaining energy you can see once Taoqi gain enough energy Jinhsi just obliterate the boss in front of her within a blink of our eyes

@lichmourne00 17 күн бұрын

Jinhsi triggers timestop at 4:36 while Jiyan finishes at 4:34. Jinhsi is a faster kill time. Comments have brainrot.

@bruh5114 17 күн бұрын

Yup, glad you pointed that out. I wouldn't have noticed it.

@zeraddbakuha4057 17 күн бұрын

I mean it's only 2s, its about the same time clear. Don't need to nitpick for a couple of secs.

@RoobyRK 16 күн бұрын

Yup, glad you pointed that out. I wouldn't have noticed it.

@ahhh_sige 16 күн бұрын

Its just a small difference. Doesnt do bullshit

@Like-hp6zd 14 күн бұрын

Jinshi has animation hang time and invulnerable. Jinshi still better

@Nito2p 17 күн бұрын

:CINEMA: My goat speedrunner

@OyasuriZzz 6 күн бұрын

Oooh~! Out Of my Hands!!! You barely see anyone use that PGR BGM. Finally someone actually used this absolute banger!

@minamo4012 17 күн бұрын

So it's almost the same, good design!

@Open6a-fx4qf 2 күн бұрын

Well it’s a good thing since you can build any character you like with same late game potential

@sariling_multo 15 күн бұрын

The moment I saw Taoqi with Verina, I knew Jiyan would win. Wish there's an Echo set that increases Concerto build up so Taoqi will still be usable cuz she builds Concerto so slow I fell asleep while fighting Jue. I use Yuanwu x Taoqi instead since I'm confident on my dodging/parrying skills, while Yinlin goes to Calcharo or Encore.

@LostWallet 11 күн бұрын

but in this comparison, yuanwu would cause Jinhsi to lose even harder. she have C2, she have full forte at the beginning of the fight regardless, so yuanwu basically do nothing to help her damage

@rinchu6051 16 күн бұрын

Jiyan's skill are not even lvl 10

@N.biebie8428 11 күн бұрын

yeah but still, jinhsi nuke boss from full hp within 2second is crazy at least jiyan have mortefi ult damage helping him

@theherbst4851 13 күн бұрын

I so need a limited 5 Star, the dual Tigers for the 1.1 quest keeps battering me to death 😭 Not only they barrage with attacks so much, them also being airborne is such a problem 😭

@redfire142 16 күн бұрын

I'm sorry to break it to you but this comparison perfectly encapsules how much better Jiyan is than Jinhsi not only are the echoes on Jiyan not as perfect as Jinhsi but the two seconds of difference really brings home how much of a loser that guy in the comments talking about timestop is and really shows that he should get out and touch some grass.

@matheusrios3186 15 күн бұрын

Both are great, but to be fair, Jiyan has a dedicated sub dps for him and Jinhsi don't. Hope they release one that can really help her.

@lichmourne00 15 күн бұрын

@@redfire142 did I hurt your feelings?

@NICSU667 15 күн бұрын

@@lichmourne00What did op said? Comment was deleted XD

@kiss-shotacerola-orionhear8532 14 күн бұрын

its s6r5 try to see the difference in s0r1.

@lichmourne00 14 күн бұрын

@@kiss-shotacerola-orionhear8532 there is an update video dunking on Jiyan because Jinhsi is so strong she doesn't need a fully powered Skill to clear.

@joeboytoyandofficialhusband 16 күн бұрын

lmao not everyone fighting in the comments 😭🙏 but can i get thumbnail source? that Jinhsi art is fire 🔥

@scryoniichan 16 күн бұрын

www.kurobbs.com/mc/post/1254453795100237824

@joeboytoyandofficialhusband 16 күн бұрын

@@scryoniichan OMG TYSM FOR RESPONDING, thanks for the comparison aswell 😏 i still like Jinhsi more overall

@scryoniichan 16 күн бұрын

@@joeboytoyandofficialhusband yeah same

@_Bleh_83 16 күн бұрын

Why not use both, I ahve both on my team

@Shydge 10 күн бұрын

Man I love jiyan but I wasn't able to get him 😢. I also love jinshi, I'm glad I got her but I'm too lazy to build her xD.

@user-sj7ok9co7q 14 күн бұрын

At s0 I would assume jinhsi is slightly better and easier to use in the overworld considering that jiyan is an ult dps

@jeistif2249 16 күн бұрын

We need a skill dmg buffer with fast concerto generation for Jinshi fr

@scryoniichan 16 күн бұрын

🗣facts

@omeganoelf.6173 15 күн бұрын

+healer(nonspectro)

@julius_pat 16 күн бұрын

0:10 Why switch to Verina/Taoqi when Jinhsi already has a full forte circuit. This is just a bad rotation, switching was stalling damage.

@scryoniichan 16 күн бұрын

Jinhsi wouldn't be able to one shot if I didn't proc intro twice for S3/getting Taoqi skill buff. If I knew I could one shot with just Verina why would I even bother having Taoqi in here.

@scryoniichan 16 күн бұрын

obviously this was before I found out gauntlet users were faster so its all in the past

@julius_pat 16 күн бұрын

@@scryoniichan my bad, I had no idea what S3 did, I didn't bother to do research.

@N.biebie8428 11 күн бұрын

@ANTSPlantation 14 күн бұрын

Thumbnail link?

@royallegit7059 3 күн бұрын

Yo this the power of credit card 🔥

@KahnSalvator 16 күн бұрын

It took so long to fill up the incandescent bar for jinshi because the guy didn't use mortefi which have coordinated attack which makes fulling the incandescent bar of jinshi faster

@matheusrios3186 15 күн бұрын

Mortefi coordinated attack only works with basic attacks and this would help Jinhsi only for the 4 first hits before she enters incarnation state. All hits after that are not more basic attacks, making Mortefi useless for her.

@matheusrios3186 15 күн бұрын

The best options for now would be Jinhsi, Yuanwu and Verina or Jinhsi, Yuanwu and Taoqi, using Yuanwu as the healer. Hope she gets a dedicated support for her in the future.

@heinzmina6772 15 күн бұрын

He didn't need to fill up the bar, he has S2 which automatically grants 50 stacks when you're out of combat for 4 seconds. He wanted to get Verina ATK boosts + Taoqi outro for Skill dmg boost. That's why it took a while to set everything up.

@SpyralKing 15 күн бұрын

Jinhsi still cleared faster than Jiyan by the way. It took longer in real time but her forte skill +ult stop time, so it was 2 seconds faster than jiyan on the timer... She's pretty op

@mikelshuo9071 15 күн бұрын

@SpyralKing you paused to look at the clear time yet you fail to look at jiyans echoes which were half crit damage compared to jinshi...

@Mihomo888 9 күн бұрын

Left DPS(Second) Right DPS(Screenshot)

@myvariant9745 15 күн бұрын

Do calcharo vs jinshi on Felian, im coping hard on him

@scryoniichan 13 күн бұрын

im also coping when I see calcharo

@JairoAlbertoDePazZepeda 13 күн бұрын

OMGGGG

@Sphynx93rkn 17 күн бұрын

What if you replace Taoqi with Yuanwu?

@namamara 16 күн бұрын

for this case, yuan wu is useless because her C2 already fullfill the stack

@Sphynx93rkn 16 күн бұрын

@@namamara That's right, totally forgot about that.

@letsrank9349 15 күн бұрын

@@namamara oh😂, I totally forgot about that. In that case. Would Jinshi with Skill spam full concerto no buff be faster or slower than Taoqi Nuke?

@bopark2088 7 күн бұрын

I had to pause the video and count the digits...

@chrishibizuki4030 14 күн бұрын

Remember fella Jiyan using echoes comb 43311 While jinshi using 44111

@Hayitham424 13 күн бұрын

44111 is better than 43311 if c6r5 her weapon gaves too much bonus damage that casues deminishing return so much .

@Hayitham424 13 күн бұрын

Jiyan's talent are all lvl 7 while jinhsi's at max level, the tower buffs skill dmg after burst so everything is on favor with jinhsi.

@N.biebie8428 11 күн бұрын

@Hayitham424 11 күн бұрын

@@N.biebie8428 they dont have a choice, because they literally said even the 60% skill dmg bonus if they dont proc toawi's concerto and just verina they can't 1 sgot the enemy.

@prof.insane 9 күн бұрын

Bro have both S6R5 but forgot upgrade the gadget 🗿

@markleeandhiswatermelons3308 8 күн бұрын

jiyan’s not powercrept 😭😭 he’s still a crazy dps, jinhsi just does big dmg immediately, but jiyan does more over time, it’s a 2 second time difference you had and jiyan’s skills weren’t even maxed out, less so than jinhsi’s as the very least either way, damage does not matter THAT MUCH in wuwa as it would in other games, since even level 1 characters can beat lvl 120 spearback in a reasonable time due to counters, at the end of the day it’s all about gameplay, being good at the gameplay, the audience. jinhsi does big numbers quickly for people who like big numbers and fast clicks, and jiyan does cumulative damage for people who like a steady and consistent playstyle, jinhsi hitting a bigger crit gives the illusion that she’s doing far more damage than jiyan, but either way, they’re on very similar levels in terms of overall damage. jiyan isn’t being “powercrept”, his ult is long for a reason, and jinhsi’s combos are fast for a reason too 😓😓😓

@DuyTruong-deabbie 6 күн бұрын

And everyone forgets that Jiyan’s damage scales proportionally with the number of enemies he gathers.

@Cryingbuffedman99 5 күн бұрын

Gib thumbnail source pls

@pensil2298 14 күн бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

@c0ur5ge4 15 күн бұрын

Took a while for jhinsi to set up h

@N.biebie8428 11 күн бұрын

@ludicolo1106 16 күн бұрын

We need proper support for jiyan

@coltonweakley6030 15 күн бұрын

We have a proper support for Jiyan, his name is Mortefi, what are you on?

@jonathannigel8979 15 күн бұрын

And we need proper support for Jinhsi /s

@Hayitham424 13 күн бұрын

Am I the only 1 that hates time stop HAHAHAH there are times when I know that Its difficult for me to dodge the attack from enemies so i usually do jnihsi nuke skill but the time stops and the boss eould still do the attack HAHAHAHA

@senricross-ji7ks 13 күн бұрын

Wow Jinhsi's 1M+ dmg

@SunShoT 16 күн бұрын

1.3 M nuke 😮

@rckyrick7425 15 күн бұрын

Jenshi doesn't need all that set up at sequence 2 she already got full stack at c2 all you have to do is literally nuke

@scryoniichan 15 күн бұрын

Sure, that's true but I had already tested that and w/o any other buff beside verina she is not one shotting making her slower.

@omeganoelf.6173 15 күн бұрын

The setup was for the buffs

@rckyrick7425 15 күн бұрын

@@scryoniichan I would think you start with her nuke to get faster clear time no??

@mikelshuo9071 15 күн бұрын

@@rckyrick7425no because then you have to do a second rotation. one shotting is faster than releasing skill immediately and stacking it up a second time.

@rckyrick7425 15 күн бұрын

@mikelshuo9071 the wording for s2 is very misleading

@jarven3368 17 күн бұрын

@thefeargiver 17 күн бұрын

catJAM

@user-s4g1qw5d74 13 күн бұрын

moral of the story? who cares just play whoever you want

@xlcecoldxjj 17 күн бұрын

now where's the warzone comparison

@michato7760 13 күн бұрын

If i compare the echos i Would say jiyan is stronger....

@Lunabringer 9 сағат бұрын

imagine arguing about characters in gacha game xD which both are cool just different playstyle

@Like-hp6zd 14 күн бұрын

Why jinshi is 4411?

@scryoniichan 13 күн бұрын

best for s6r5

@MK3-C 13 күн бұрын

Both character hadhigh damage... just like other character stop byabaling like a angry jerman talking to another angry german

@user-ww9ww1pp2u 13 күн бұрын

Your jiyan crit damage is lower than just than jihshi.

@scryoniichan 13 күн бұрын

@@user-ww9ww1pp2u s3 gives 32% more cdmg

@user-ww9ww1pp2u 13 күн бұрын

@@scryoniichanmy bad I mean to say crit value over all. Your missing 2 crit rate option in your echos. And your skill lvl are only around lv7 this is not totally fair comparison while jinhsi is almost maxxed out.

@scryoniichan 13 күн бұрын

@@user-ww9ww1pp2uI did state tht in my description but I had also uploaded a new jinhsi run which was a 10 sec clear. I don't think jiyan would clear tht much faster after lvling up his skills due to not having time stop.

@user-ww9ww1pp2u 13 күн бұрын

@@scryoniichan if you get 72-74% cr with max out skill because jiyan resonance skill does lot of dmg + his ult also do lot of dmg at start and heavy dmg is comes from basic atk. So he may not beat jinhsi but it would be very close. That's 61% crit rate is holding your jiyan imo even my jiyan has 70% cr at s0.

@scryoniichan 13 күн бұрын

@@user-ww9ww1pp2uo i thought you knew s3 also gives 16% cr. hes technically 77/310

@TheTMZocker1 17 күн бұрын

🐳

@yoursTroller 16 күн бұрын

Jinshi with no spectro echo vs 43311 😂 ofcourse result are to be expected.

@howocchi 17 күн бұрын

BocchiNoWay

@Kocha_yuyo 16 күн бұрын

wow im so glad to see my pookie bear jiyan didn't get powercrept by some rando albino dragon girl 😂

@Trollgak 3 күн бұрын

진짜 정신이 나간건가?

@lamboferrari7963 17 күн бұрын

Cant believe jiyan powercrept jinshi. Game is dead gg boys

@omeganoelf.6173 15 күн бұрын

Jinhsi won by 2 seconds wdym?

@nunushiro325 13 күн бұрын

Look at the talent level and crit value difference. I wouldn't call it prowercreep but 2s difference with those builds is good 💁‍♀️@@omeganoelf.6173

@markleeandhiswatermelons3308 8 күн бұрын

jinhsi does immediate big damage while jiyan does cumulative damage over time 😭😭😭 that’s why his ult lasts long and why jinhsi’s combos are fast, they have two completely different types of playstyles 😓 what game are you even playing

@asamuraHaruki 11 күн бұрын

Jiyan has around 180 Echo CV while Jinhsi has around 235 Echo CV

@teucerceoofgenshincreative8019 17 күн бұрын

You're runnin worst concerto support in game. Also Jinhsi is faster.

@pho_ever 17 күн бұрын

devs listened?

@Sphynx93rkn 17 күн бұрын

devs_listened_waves

@nyeindelta9290 16 күн бұрын

tf this even mean tho?

@TheFaithfulStar 15 күн бұрын

i love how UNOPTIMIZED jinhsi team rotation here is

@scryoniichan 15 күн бұрын

I mean you can go ahead and actually tell me how you would one shot this rot cuz I already tested and know for a fact that not setting up buff is not gonna clear faster.

@TheFaithfulStar 15 күн бұрын

@@scryoniichan true. its just Jiyan's rotation in this starts 10 second before jinhsi rotation does, maybe a comparison where both dps characters start their rotation at the same time would be more fair to see who deals with the boss faster, esp since you have s2 and there's no need to stack jinhsi forte before

@mikelshuo9071 15 күн бұрын

@@TheFaithfulStarwhy the hell would you randomly give jinshi a head start on her rotation LMFAO. that is the definition of unfair. the most fair is starting as soon as the timer starts like in the video. it's not like you time stop irl. that's so cooked.

@TheFaithfulStar 15 күн бұрын

@@mikelshuo9071 maybe to skip you running around the field chasing mephis to build concerto on verina in jinhsi's team)

@LostWallet 11 күн бұрын

Jiyan is refusing to be powercreeped

@ranni3248 8 күн бұрын

İ hate whale players :D

@ssoluss 15 күн бұрын

сравнивать персонажа наносящий тунельный урон и персонажа с бурст уроном бред

@mrtu2722 16 күн бұрын

Jinshi low dame......Hahahaha ok

@N.biebie8428 11 күн бұрын

she just killed full hp boss in 2second with just skill and ult what do you mean? litterally no damage from Taoqi or Verina, jiyan got mortefi damage helping him

@teucerceoofgenshincreative8019 17 күн бұрын

You're runnin worst concerto support in game. Also Jinhsi is faster.

@RoobyRK 16 күн бұрын

You're runnin worst concerto support in game. Also Jiyan is faster.

@MisakaMikoto1069 16 күн бұрын

@@RoobyRK OP runs yuanwu and JInhsi clears this much faster. You don't need to cope Jiyan's still great.

@nightfury2472 15 күн бұрын

@@RoobyRKjiyan mains already started coping😂 it's just 1.1 bro.. expected to be powercreep