I don’t think it would ever interfere with the knees but it would definitely be visible depending on how thick it was.

They replaced the warped board. I also store them all flat stacked on top of each other under table. Warping has been control by this

I dont believe they are offering this size on the upcoming KS.

@@LordCyler they offer all tables at that width now. So they have 4 different table sizes, 2 widths, and a hex table.

@@verdixlegacy Ah, when they said they weren't offering the Wargame any longer I didn't realize they were just renaming it.

@@LordCyler its not quite the same, the wargaming width is now an option to the other sizes, the length is no longer an option

if they are a half of an inch off - there is something very wrong.

They have stayed much better than expected. There is some very minor warpage on a couple but what i do to correct is take them all off and lay flat on the ground in a stack with some weight on top for a few days - all perfectly straight again. The storage of them is critical. The only way they will stay without warping when not on table is perfectly straight up compressed together or all laying flat on the floor stacked on top of one another. I do not have a topper block so can’t speak to that.

Wrymwood did send me new toppers and my topper situation is fixed - that all looks good now. However, its critical to store the toppers flat (I guess you could get the topper block) but don't lean them against a wall - they will warp. I had some that warped initially just on the table but then they came back after I stored them all stacked on top of each other flat on the ground for a few weeks. Never had a problem since - even back on the table. I also finally found a way to put them in a certain order where they all fit perfectly. To ensure I put them back this way each time, I marked them with numbers underneath. Its wood - this is really not their fault. It's a wide span on that War Gaming table. So a lot of care needs to go with them to keep them in order. The bouncy playboard - no they did not fix this. They would have to manufacture another part for that and it did not seem that was going to happen so I dropped it. Its only an issue when you lean into the center of the table - which you will do when war gaming. Everything else is fine. I would be surprised if this was an issue in anything but the war game table. In time I will fix this myself with a support bracket, just have not gotten around to it yet.

@@theMCGuiREreview It's good that they cared and sent you new toppers and finally this issue was fixed. But it's still a bummer that they didn't do anything for the other part. I'm sure that if you carefully attach another piece in the center and put some screws according to your idea, this will work! Oh man, I'm so hyped with their modular table and it seems so awesome in your video. The maple with burgundy by the way is really great! The thing with the plywood and the lack of support in the middle worries me and reminds me the ancestor of Jasper table which was the Duchess, and had similar issues with the inner surface support, i.e., check here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/na5hZ6dkua24p4E.htmlm . But this was fixed in the next updated version of this table (the Jasper one). This is the only thing that kind of holds me back a bit, but it seems that when the next campaign is on I will pull the trigger! Anyway, thanks a lot for the detailed overview and for showing the small cup holders; they look to me more ideal as well and I think I'm going to order those ones! Another thing I wanted to ask is about the depth of the player vault! It is 4.5 inches which sounds great especially for storing miniature games underneath, but since some tables have less depth, almost half of it, how do you find it in terms of leaning in when playing! Have you experienced any discomfort or even back pain at all?

If the cup fits in there thst holds 32 oz then yes. They are held by the magnets and the wood overhang. They are locked in there and you can put some pressure on / you would break the wood before it came off from the weight of a cup with liquid.

the wide is too wide for everything except War gaming . That is my conclusion at this point. Its not a good experience to actually play board games on - everyone is too far from the actual board and can't properly see the cards. You end up with one person moving everything around and constantly picking up cards to see what they say until you memorize. If I had to do it again, I would get a normal size (Med or large table) - still counter height legs though. Then create a larger light weight topper to extend the top if I wanted to play a war game that required more space. After owning and regularly using it for a couple years now - I can confidently say the wide has not been a good experience for generally gaming.

Wow what a great and thorough response. I’ve been holding on getting one because I wasn’t sure if I wanted a standard or wide and you just confirmed my fear, thank you so much for this! Also, they have a hex shape now. Would you still prefer the normal rectangle?

@@mrharibro : the hex is probably the most functional truthfully but i would still go rectangle for my purposes. I don’t know - the hex has a decent size tabletop surface area. It’s whatever you need for your setup.

Standing on toppers or inside vault? No way inside vault…i could literally break the center of the table in half by nothing more than arm strength if i wanted to. The table i have has massive “give” in the direct center.

@@theMCGuiREreview it was the inside the vault. Again it probably wasn't the war game table being longer and less structurally stable but yea it was the vault. On the topper they had 20 people. I can link the video if you want me to.

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​@@theMCGuiREreview kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hLh2jdGjvcnaZKs.html So they finally tested the war game table vault, its well over 100 pounds, but if you are loading the vault that heavy 🤷🏼‍♂️.

@@robertyingling8193: I deleted the first comment I had in response here as I thought they actually addressed the issue but when I re-watched the video, it ends with them stating "we don't need a brace"... If they don't want to add a brace, that's fine. Although you are purchasing a table, mind you one of the only ones on the market without center braces, that will feel hallow and bouncy through the middle. I put this in my review video because its true, I have had friends call it out with no prompting, and its annoying every time I lean into the center of the table and it bends down. Its not about the weight you can place on it - the fact it bends under weight and bounces is not a quality feel. The brace is needed for more than just keeping it from snapping in half (I would assume I would never have 200+ lbs of pressure on it - on purpose). Its needed to ensure the board does not bend at all and so there is more structure under the wood dampening that hallow sound. Its needed to make the product a more quality product. They can either accept this and improve the product or continue to make videos trying to prove its not needed. I don't really care - I will be adding the required brace for my table at some point. I made my fare and honest review and I am moving forward. The fact the rest of the table is so high quality and I got it at a amazing price through KS - I really have no other issues - I closed out with them on this a long time ago. I emailed them about it and a few other things that had issues. They corrected the topper issue and admitted they did not consider this center brace issue in the design - they thought the wooden dowels in the MDF would be enough. What is becoming aggravating is people coming here and commenting on how I'm wrong - mind you, people that probably don't even own one of these Wide/War gaming tables (to be clear I am not saying you are doing that - you seem to be providing the videos they are making and I appreciate you posting them here).

these tables are the cheapest on the market, by a ton. Wyrmwood is loosing money on almost every table made. They nearly lost the company on this table. All the stuff they didn't do, is because they literally already included more wood in a table for half the cost of anyone else on the market. They literally brought gaming tables to the masses. They're other tables cost like 10k.

@@justinsciacca3524 :I agree, these tables will give you a huge value for the money - as there is nothing out there this solid (all wood). It has its issues but they are all completely fixable. I really think their pricing is going to go WAY up after this table is released in retail on their website. I mean if they are doing a minimum 3K buy in to even get in on the desk... that thing is not even half the amount of wood as these tables. Unless you completely deck out the desk with all the wood options.

@@theMCGuiREreview I missed the MGT kickstarter the first time around. Watching Wyrmlife now, when that MGT 2.0 kickstarter hits, I'm expecting nearly double the cost pretty much across the board. Cost vs value of what you get will be way less favorable. Not sure if I will actually commit to a table anymore, no matter how much I like the looks of the Padauk. The potential bending/warping issues of the Wargaming size also worry me a bit now, lol.

It’s a good catch and they’re happy to replace it under their Craftsman’s Promise. All but one of my panels had warpage (bad batch?), so I had your trampoline effect on my toppers! They agreed with me, put me in the queue, and replaced all of the toppers. One of the replacements was warped, but like you said, I could find a combination of toppers that got me 98% there and I’m happy with what I have